OT: Summer 2021 Soccer Transfer Window Thread

Not a whole lot of notable transfers yet (aside from Aguero to Barca) but the coaching carousel is in full swing. Should be a fun summer.

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Real Madrid announced the signing of David Alaba on a free, which is a good signing given his talent, experience, and versatility as a defender at the highest level, but "on a free" is one of the most misleading terms in football these days. We are paying him a substantial salary, and had to pay a few large signing fee sums.

Looks like you're luring Carlo back to the Bernabeau as well, good day for you guys so far.

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I definitely wasn't expecting Carlo back, though I had heard a few less reliable rumors before the higher tier journos started reporting it. Despite being extremely thankful for Carlo's contribution in the mid 2010's (La Decima in particular), I am not particularly excited about the hire. However, it's not because I don't think Carlo is past it or anything, he might be, but I was probably not going to be overly inspired by any of the available options at this point. I'm still sad about Zidane leaving again, even if I wasn't surprised by it. It's unlikely I will ever love a manager as much as I love Zidane.

Looking like Ancelotti is headed back to Real Madrid. Thought he might stick around at Everton. Now both Everton and Spurs are on the lookout for new management. It'll be interesting to see where Conte and Zidane both end up.

Everton should and I think would be very wise to move for Potter. Hes got a great intellect on the game and would help them to be more enterprising and attractive as well.

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Potter seems like a good coach and a good guy. Whatever you think about xG and such, he was pretty unlucky with Brighton's forward situation. If they have a better striker then they're probably a few spots higher in the league this past season. Pep's even said that Potter is the best English manager right now, make of that what you will. High praise nonetheless.

If ever the name Graham Potter matched the face-it would be that guy...he's the essence of Potterness

Konate to liverpool is done.
Wijnaldum is probably Barca bound.
Aguero is at Barca now.

Donnaruma is going to walk as a free from AC milan to try and get a Juve move but I dont see where Juve get the cash for him Raiola is a piece of shit and will want stupid money and Juve are hurting for cash so I dont think that one is so easy to happen.

Interesting to see where or who takes on Conte and if so if he will try and bring Lukaku with him. Cant imagine Conte doesnt get some big job but maybe teams will be wary of his antics and not want that kind of character around.

PSG is an interesting watch as Poch needs to resign or that would raise some serious concerns all though PSG have squad issues as well as needing to resign Mbappe or risk losing out on a payday when he leaves. Resigning Neymar was a weird and over priced deal to say the least.

Ancelotti to Madrid is interesting to say the least but after watching Everton struggle alot I dont know how excited I would be in Madrid. They have alot of issues and need some rebuild style work to the squad which has a lot of dead weight to go with a gareth bale sized issue again.

Kane watch is going to get old all summer long but its either Chelsea or City even if United have interest I dont see Kane going there. Euros will make alot of transfers drag on a bit I'd imagine unless Iceland put england out early again(please cause Murica ya know)

United need some key players, Kounde from Sevilla or Torres from Villareal seem like realistic targets for what they want to spend even if Varane or the likes would be preferred the money would be too much. They desperately need a RW of quality so I expect Sancho will be the target again with a lower price I could see it happen. A midfielder to replace either fred or pogba would be ideal but those are few and far between but a Declan Rice would be ideal dunno if they could make the money work though.

Arsenal need far too much to mention but Arteta has a hell of a job to do making them top 4 level again in my opinion. Squad is aging in some key areas and they dont have much to replace key guys like Auba and Laca with. Saka and Rowe will need to be super fit next season for them to stand a chance. No ceballos and probably no Odegaard and they will need to replace those players badly as well.

Tottenham are in a weird spot Levy needs to hire a manager really really badly to get things moving but either they're holding out for a Roberto Martinez or someone currently employed I dont know. Until they sort out the manager I have no idea who they will be after other than at best a good Harry Kane replacement but who would realistically go there to replace Kane? Ihenacho is well of at Leicester and maybe they could go for Ings but they may need to look outside England for a cheaper less known goalscorer. Maybe a Gerard Moreno surprise?

Chelsea have only one need and thats an out and out number 9. Lukaku or Kane would be ideal and Inter badly need money so Lukaku could be the better fit and for less money and not having to deal with Levy. Outside of the number 9 I'll be watching Pulisic to see how or what he does, if Havertz can find his feet and Werner ever learns how to play onside he could get phased out and lost in the depths of the chelsea bench which would be a worry.

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I think City losing the UCL final puts them in a better position to try and go for Kane. It'll be interesting to see if there's any sort of player swap in a Kane deal proposed this summer. I think that's probably the only way a deal realistically gets done given the financial issues teams are dealing with thanks to COVID. I think the big question is how in the world do Spurs try to replace Kane's contribution if he goes? That'll be a big ask for the team and whoever they bring in as manager. As far as it goes on that front it seems like Erik Ten Hag from Ajax has been viewed as the frontrunner from everything I've seen. There's been some talk about Poch recently but who knows what happens there. Hopefully the manager decision gets done by the end of the week so that transfer shortlists and whatever else can start to get figured out.

I think the Poch stuff is non sense or coming from Poch's agent to get a new deal from PSG no way he pulls a 180 that quickly. Ten Hag would make sense but he just signed within the last month a new deal so itll be pricey.

Swapping for Kane would work but the players going the other way have to agree and that part will be hard to find to me. Seeing reports about sterling the other way plus cash but no way sterling would do that to me. The saying always goes you dont want to be the guy replacing the legend and that remains true for Kane. You cant replace him with one player as lewangoalski isnt going to london so realistically youll need 2-3 players to pick up the slack. Ings, maybe a richarlison, and throw in maybe trying to get Bale back for another loan may be realistic. A swap for Abraham and some cash could work but I'm not sure Abraham is making the step down willingly.

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Reputable sources make it seem like there's some traction with the Poch rumors. I'd be surprised if it ends up with him back at Spurs but I wouldn't really count it out. Seems like he's top priority now. I'd be fine with either Ten Hag or Potter.

Man City Tranfers

Transfer out:
Aguero to Barca
Eric Garcia to Barca

Possible:
Benjamin Mendy
Gabriel Jesus
Raheem Sterling
Aymeric Laporte (likely)
Riyad Mahrez
Bernando Silva
Jack Harrison
Lukas Nmecha
Pedro Porro
Yangel Herrera

Transfer in:
Leke Drake from Stevenage U13

Possible:
Harry Kane
Jack Grealish (apparently not for sale)
Romelu Lukaku
Sergio Ramos (conflicting rumors)
Nuno Mendes

Aston Villa have signed Buendia from Norwich. Villa have made some great signings over the past couple of seasons and this might prove to be another one.

Might be a precursor to Grealish leaving...

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I dont know who stumps the cash for grealish this summer if city really go for Kane they wont have near enough for two over priced brits in one summer. Less tottenham or arsenal pull a stone cold stunner I dont see anyone in england other than city stumping up the fee to get villa to part ways.

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If anyone wants Grealish they're gonna have to pony up big time. I can't see Villa budging for anything less than 70-80 mil and there aren't a whole lot of clubs who would be willing to do that this summer. You'd figure City will try to go for Kane first (if at all) and there's probably no way they go after both. If they do somehow, I've got some FFP questions.

If they do somehow, I've got some FFP questions.

The court of arbitration for sport has more than proven itself incapable of handling the power of Abu Dhabi's legal army.

Just logging in to laugh heartily at this one. Buendia was bought with the intention of complementing Grealish, not replacing. The owners have no intention of selling Super Jack unless he demands to go, and I'm not sure I see the Brummy lad doing that. Besides being a lifelong Villa fan, he watched what happened when Fabian Delph professed his love for the Villa and then promptly fucked off to Man City to disappear. If that DOES happen, they are going to ask for obscene money. Villa are not the selling club they were ten years ago when all the talent was groomed to get sold to Liverpool and Man City.

For an analogy, Villa have the same owner as the Milwaukee Bucks, and was intimately involved in the successful effort to get Giannis to stay in Wisconsin, and that seems to be working pretty well for them. I imagine he'd rather get into Europe than sell a generational player and have to replace him with a sum of players that I would doubt could replace Super Jack.

Dont know the level arsenal were at but he was heavily linked with a move to arsenal which makes this even more interesting.

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Yeah I'm blown away that he chose Villa over Arsenal. Not throwing shade, but it definitely displays the perception on the club at the moment (Goons).

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from a few places i was reading, it seems that the offers were comparable in overall compensation but Villa's bid was slightly more attractive to Norwich due to the structure of payout and inclusion of +10% sell-on fee. I think Buendia was happy to move to either place, not a "snub" of Arsenal, just that Villa went beyond what Arsenal first bid and Arsenal didn't make a second one for whatever reason. I don't think I recall Arsenal buying anyone with a sell-on clause

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Arsenal have probably moved on from signing an undersized midfielder (Torreira) and don't want to repeat the mistake (I know they have totally different skillsets)-just spitballing. The Premier League is tough for a smallish player.

Makes sense, like I said it wasn't a slight GGC, I truly wondered if it was more the deal, or the club. Thanks for the clarification.

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my understanding is that Arsenal's midfield priorities are Odegaard and a Xhaka replacement (as he's likely leaving and recent reports have Roma being in for him), currently mooted to be Ruben Neves

Buendia would have been nice, but I'm not sure he's what the squad needs now -- where does he play in a midfield 3 if Odegaard is brought in permanently? and if he plays on a wing, who does he displace?

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I think from what I've seen that Villa just gave a better offer. Same sort of situation as with Villa and Ollie Watkins last summer maybe. Several teams interested but Villa just willing to pony up more than the other guys.

Not a fan of any of the clubs mentioned, but interesting to follow as a football fan nonetheless.

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Barca are very very very hamstrung by their finances and this deal sums it up. The word is aguero took a very small deal really to get the move as they dont have alot to play with.

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I'm not surprised by the move, I was reading that Gigi considered Tottenham before joining the Reds, simply because of Poch.

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Will always love Gini-he's an absolute Liverpool legend. His performance at Anfield in the second leg of the semi against Barcelona in 2019 will live in the memory. Best of wishes to him, hope he always gets a standing ovation if he ever plays at Anfield again.

Totally agree, I bought a Gini kit from this past season, just so I could get something with Gini's name on the back along with the EPL Champion patch.

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Spurs managerial chase has been super annoying overall, but it at least looks as though Levy has appointed a new director of football in Fabio Paratici. He was let go of at Juve at the end of this season. I'm hoping he can be helpful with transfers to keep Levy's hands out of those sort of decisions at least a bit. I'll believe it when I see it though.

I hope Spurs manage to land Scott Parker

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Why not Al Groh if were talking dream appointments?

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heck i'll even be alright with Mike London

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Pls no

Seems like Donnarumma is a PSG player as well now. Decent window from them so far. Saw that they may be in on Hakimi and there have been some rumors of Aurier going back to Paris from Spurs, which I would be fine with as a Spurs supporter. Also seeing the Sancho to Man U rumors as expected.

Personally I dont see the Donnarumma to PSG making any sense with it only being mere weeks since they renewed Navas's contract and upped his salary nicely for another 3 years. I think Raiola bluffed and AC milan called it and nobody aside from PSG has any interest or the money. Why PSG would overspend on him right not when there is no real market for him makes no sense but then again FFP is a joke and PSG dont care about that anyway. Kind of like Madrid overbidding by roughly 12 million a year for Alaba over what munich had offered. Its funny watching these big clubs whine about the money but they keep offering these stupidly large contracts and keep throwing money away when theres little reason to do it.

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Took like 75 days but Spurs finally have their new manager. Nuno signed a two year deal. Not the most exciting hire but I'm hopeful that he, along with some new signings/sellings will help right the ship for us.

In other manager news Rafa Benitez signed with Everton.

Both are odd manager hires for me, Nuno isnt someone I'd be thrilled with if I were spurs but clearly he wasnt their 11th choice?
Benitez is a good manager but kind of old school so not the progressive stuff they were chasing with Ancelotti.

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It seems like once Spurs hired Paratici from Juve as director of football the managerial choices changed from what they might've been prior to him. Seems like he wants more of a pragmatic guy rather than more attacking football. Not super surprised on that front as more pragmatic seems a little more like the way Italians sometimes play. I'm interested to see how Paratici's tenure turns out because he's not in a good place with some supporters already after this drawn out process lol. If he makes some good signings I assume that'll change.

infighting among the spurs front office types? love to see it

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I dont think the fans would mind but the fact that the whole manager hunt was very public doesnt help at all. Cant be easy recruiting a coach with Kane trying to leave and I dont imagine Nuno changes that but its gotta be tough to tell the coach coming in youll need to find a striker. Honestly hiring Nuno means you get Jorge Mendes involved which might have been intentional. Feels like a easy way to maybe get Raul Jiminez if Kane goes.

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I mean Spurs have had the Mendes connection for a little while now. They had that with Mourinho. There are definitely some good Mendes clients that I wouldn't mind seeing come in but there are of course ones I wouldn't want. Looking at Paratici's history he didn't have all that many transactions with Mendes but I think he seems to have a good relationship with most reps which seems like a good thing. I don't see Levy giving the green light on any moves that don't seem like they'd go anywhere or have any sort of resale value since he's so much of a businessman.

I also don't think Kane leaves unless City give a crazy offer. Harry has like no leverage and has three years left on his deal so Spurs could keep him this summer and sell him next if they really wanted to wait. But Spurs aren't really in any sort of position where they'll feel like they need to sell Kane. I don't see him making a big stink and letting his performance suffer because he doesn't get a move. I'm sure he's after that PL goal scoring record. I'd personally be fine to see him go if there's a big offer that comes in.

Looks like sancho to utd is a done deal, confirmed by bvb but not yet announced by utd

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United are usually really slow to announce things officially so this isnt a shock. Seems united got a better price than a year ago and it sounded like BVB's ceo wasnt happy with the amount of money but they knew they were losing leverage in the deal.

Some other places reporting that Varane is a legit target and United are trying to get a reasonable deal for him but I'm not sure this isnt Ramos 3.0 type contract negotiating and he will just end up resigning with madrid for a fat pay day.

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He's 100% (rightfully) pissed that we signed Alaba for a huge salary while he has been elite for 4-5 years now and has been at the club for a decade. He deserves to be paid at least as much as Alaba. I hope we are able to do so.

I've always been split on Varane to be frank, Ive seen him put in some unreal performances then like at the euros not do so well. That french defense was a wreck most of the tournament but he may be paying the price for not so much around him.
I can see this simply being a ploy for a new deal from madrid but maybe hes ready to move, guess we will see but I'd bet my money hes staying in madrid.

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If we pay him I think he stays 100%, but I think there's a very real chance we let him walk if we don't want to pay him, and/or think his sale is essential to funding Mbappe.

Cant see him going to PSG now that ramos has agreed to a 2 year deal there. Man U should be interested but like you said depends what Perez decides he wants to do. If you guys cant clear Bale, Rodriguez like contracts this summer Varane could net some decent cash and for a 28 year old thats not an awful deal. Mbappe is gonna be pricey but if they wait another year he will have what one year left and then I cant see PSG holding him ransom for ridiculous amounts.

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mbappe's in the final year of his deal now according to the twitterati and transfermarkt

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Well then yeah why would you not talk to Mbappe in a few months time and tell him to wait and prepare one hell of a contract he cant refuse if he really is your guy. I cant see anyone touching what RM could offer him even liverpool dont have that kind of cash.

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It's not that easy unfortunately. This is our best shot at getting Mbappe without creating an enormous amount of bad blood. Mbappe leaving PSG on a free would cause a ton of potentially future deal breaking turmoil. If he signs a new contract then nobody will be able to afford him for years.

Hoping this means Dan James goes somewhere that he can get on the pitch more. Certainly didn't help the Welsh cause this summer that so few of their stars are getting regular playing time.

I dunno if he will get a loan now, Ole really seemed to like using him as as sub late with his pace and crossing as the season went along. Maybe sancho changes his stance but the season is gonna be long and really James is the only natural RW we have behind Sancho so if Ole wants to go 4-3-3 he may need some backup for Sancho so Greenwood isnt stuck trying to play that role again.

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Not one mention of Leicester City signing Patson Daka and his excellent anagram of "Spank A Toad" smh my head

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And now Sergio Ramos is off to PSG. What a window for them and we're not even halfway through July

Arsenal officially sign Nuno Tavares, LB from Benfica for €8m. Albert Sambi Lokonga, midfielder from Anderlecht for around €20m is reportedly done. Ben White rumored to be very close to done, probably announced after the Euros for €55m.

Interesting priorities IMO - they need more help in the attack than in defense. Still need another midfielder or two even and maybe a RB if Bellerin leaves. Maybe a GK if Leno leaves as well

Honestly I think helping transition quickly out of defense will help the attack so much. There was a neat piece on the athletic that detailed how Ben White's penchant for progressive passing and dribbling will really help in this regard.

I'll be really interested to see what the overhauled midfield looks like at the end of the window. Reeeeeaaaallly hoping they're not using up the summer budget on Ben White

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Disappointed in the lack of anagrams for the new midfielder "ambi something shit I forgot the rest."

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Albert Sambi Lokonga is pretty long, but if you do Albert Lokonga you get Bologna Talker!

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I've heard very good things about White and I'm not saying he won't be helpful. Just that we had the third best defense in the league last year, it's our attack which was toothless. I know there's no Europe and less need to rotate, but it's just putting a lot on ESRs plate to ask him to be the only creative threat in midfield. If they sign a high quality CM I'll be good. I think they're going to be much better than people think.

I know it's good for the club, but I'll miss Lamela's absolute shithousery. He was always good to come on at 60' and immediately pick up a yellow, but he'd set the tone.

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We will always have his rabonas to remember him by. By all accounts this seems like a great move. Paratici both getting rid of some deadweight in the squad while also replacing and getting younger. If Gil pans out it'll end up being a great move for Spurs.

Kane to city appears to be a done deal.

Edit. Lol, oof.

Lol pretty sure that was reported by the Sun and they're not very reliable at all. Today a bunch of Spurs reporters close to the club have basically written yesterday's news off. Still wouldn't be surprised to see Kane move to City if they're willing to put up enough money for him.

I wouldn't count on anything until we see him in a city shirt. Still major moves to come with three quality forwards available this summer in Haaland, Kane, and Griezman all on sale I'd be surprised if anything happens with them until late in the summer. Griezmans contract is scary but considering how desperate Barca are to offload anyone you might find a big club pass on Kane and go that route where they may be able to convince Barca to part ways for next to nothing

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Varane to man united for what sounds like 59 million which is a good deal for all parties it looks like. Got the Here We Go so I'm guessing this looks to be close.

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Decent age, decent signing. It appears that the chatter around the internet is that it won't necessarily impact the pace at the CB position though. You'll have two trees supporting the spine though, so that should be helpful for the overall defense. Can't stand the Mancs, but it's a good deal nonetheless.

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Varane has been reported to be the fastest player in the squad by other players multiple times over the years in Madrid.

Yeah you can't take chatter around the internet too seriously. As I said, good signing.

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The question that I have is, who's gonna replace Varane and Ramos? I don't watch a ton of La Liga

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Wouldn't be surprised if they use the varane money on Pau Torres he's been the one heavily talked about buy Madrid needed cash so now with varane money they may go buy someone

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Nacho and Militao were great for the most part last year when they played together, and they played quite a bit overall with so many injuries, and Ramos missing almost all year. Not sure we will go after anyone else on the backline until we sort out the Mbappe situation.

My bet is that Alaba will play CB a lot, though I would prefer him to play LB where I believe he has the most overall impact on matches.

He should compliment slabhead very well, we have desperately needed an athletic, pacy defender to pair with Maguire for a long long time. Couldn't be happier to land varane as long as he can gel with harry this is a solid base, now just upgrade midfield or sort out Pogba and united will be close as they've been in ages

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Bryan Gil to Spurs and Lamela back the other way to Sevilla has been announced by both clubs. Don't know a ton about Gil but what I've seen makes me excited for the potential he brings. Cristian Romero from Atalanta looks like he might be headed to Spurs too which seems like a good move if it comes to fruition. I'm liking how things have gone since Spurs hired Paratici. He really seems to have a plan.

Sooooo who's got money on Kane actually not training to get a move away or a simple misunderstanding

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I still believe (hope) Kane and Grealish to city.

As a not city fan I only hope if they do sign both they have to sell the farm to do it so their is a little fairness in it for the rest of the league.

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Danny Ings to Villa out of nowhere lol. Already spending the Grealish money.

Would've loved Ings to return to LFC, would've been a nice stop-gap pickup till transfer prices normalize again. If City pulls off Grealish and Kane, they'll be tough to beat. I have faith in my Reds though so long as we can stay healthy this campaign.

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Leon Bailey to Villa as well (from Leverkusen) for something in the region of $25m...Villa is gonna have strikers but who will provide the service? Liverpool will get a sell-on payment for the Ings sale.

bailey, buendia both

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Yeah I wouldn't have paid 30m for him. Based upon the sell-on payment I think we'll get about 2m from the deal. Edwards doing Edwards things!

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I was a bit skeptical the deal for freakish wasn't just bait to get Tottenham to lower the Kane price but the way villa are spending money tells me that grealish is as good as gone.

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Grealish gone. My condolences @TheFifthFuller 😢

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Welp. This has been difficult to process. Like if Shane Beamer had Michael Vick talent, we had been anticipating him since his 9th grade year and after a couple of pretty good years at Tech, he decided to transfer to Clemson his junior year to compete for Nattys. Wish Jack the best, but I don't know if I'll be able to watch ManC matches any time soon.

The consolation is the owners are currently trying figure what to do with this besides swim in it...

Huge news. Messi seems to be officially done at Barca. The club announced it not long ago. Very interested to see how this pans out but I'd guess he's probably off to City or PSG. This saga could throw a wrench into Harry Kane's plans. I'm sure he's feeling a little nervous given the way he's handled things in the past few days.

Could be a last ditch play by Barcelona to force La Liga to relax their wage restrictions with an exception to allow them to retain Messi, but if this is legit then it brings me tremendous joy that he finished his time at Barcelona with 7 straight Clasico's without a goal.

Wow....that would definitely be a LOOOOONG shot, though he is the highest profile player in the world so would have as much pull as anyone I guess. Perhaps Barca should reflect on the wages they're wasting on other players instead and fix that problem first.

Javier Tebas is not having a good day to say the least. I'd imagine he may have had a heart attack when that news came to him.

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This situation is starting to get...*ahem*....messi

sir the dad joke thread is over there

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Grealish to City done 139 million smackers is a hell of a fee. I would imagine that kind of move takes them out of the Messi situation for a bit atleast until they sell a bunch of players.

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Smashed the PL transfer record and it's not even the biggest piece of transfer news today lol. Just unreal.

We all know FFP is a joke, but if they buy Kane or Messi while retaining everyone else, then FFP is an absolute mirage.

On another note:

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FFP accounting doesn't really matter with free agents. wages on the books definitely count to expenditures, but there's no lump sum to account for so it's really small potatoes compared to a big money move. City could easily sell on some of their fringe squad players and come out a wash as far as FFP is concerned

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Only issue is it's reported Messi and Barca were looking at 36+ mil euros a season deal which is a hell of a hunk of money. Kane has to be sweating bullets right now it's a hell of a choice for city to make. I'm praying Messi goes to MLS and spares us of the PSG or city stuff.

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Messi was making closer to 100m/season before his "reduced" deal they were trying to work to so they could fit in the La Liga wage requirements.

even so, 30m pounds/year in wages in a four year deal isn't much different than if they paid 120m fee for a player, agreed a four year contract, and wrote off the transfer fee over those four years (plus the wages). that's why clubs are inclined to buy a player on the last year of his deal -- selling club recoups some value, buying club has generally a cut fee and saves massively on wages

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Yeah, the FFP statement was more so towards Kane than it was Messi, but I get what you're saying.

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gonna plop this here, really really nice breakdown of how FFP and the way clubs account for expenses made the Messi deal feasible

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FFP is stupid anyway.

Removing features to get people to sign up for your service is something EA would would do.

Romero to Spurs is finally official. Took quite a while but glad to have a solid defensive signing.

anyone is bound to look world class next to eric dier

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I'd be surprised to see this go through but would be glad if it did, whether to play alongside Kane or as a Kane replacement (probably the more likely option). Seems pretty unlikely after Lukaku getting a move to Chelsea, but if Inter are really in that bad a place financially I could see it happening.

It was spun to the media as Kane compliment because Nuno wants to play a pair up top, but I tend to agree with your assessment.

the fact the fee was agreed before the lukaku-to-chelsea news (which coincided very much with the grealish-to-city news) makes me think it was very much a "let's have a replacement lined up for when Kane goes to city" kind of thing

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Yeah maybe. Probably makes the most sense. I don't think Spurs would drop 60-70 million on a striker partner/second fiddle to Kane. I'd be very interested to see how the team might look if that were the case though. Harry might end up with even more assists if this were to happen.

Yeah maybe. Probably makes the most sense. I don't think Spurs would drop 60-70 million on a striker partner/second fiddle to Kane. I'd be very interested to see how the team might look if that were the case though. Harry might end up with even more assists if this were to happen. anyone

fixed that for ya!

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They definitely spent that much for Ndombele!

which is probably Exhibit A for why Levy won't do it again!

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Probably right but also I think Paratici has a lot of sway now as far as it goes with transfers. It's definitely been weird to see Spurs linked with loads of expensive players so far this season. Probably mostly due to the potential Kane sale but it's still kinda crazy.

Athletic reporting Ndombele was fit and available for selection for yesterday's friendly vs Arsenal and he didn't even make the squad!

big whiff

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Seems like every manager since he joined has had an issue with him at some point. No idea why but it's definitely interesting.

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Inter are about to be a bunch of scrubs if they keep selling their good players, 60mil sounds about right to me. Kind of weird they say he would play alongside Kane when that's already what son does and they just gave son a nice extension

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Interesting to see the financials of the Messi and PSG deal I don't see how they can sign him then somehow extend or give mbappe a new deal without breaching any FFP laws. I swear the only reason PSG are allowed to do whatever is Ligue 1 is weak and won't make any rules to rein in PSG and their owner is a kiss ass to UEFA and the whole super league thing where PSG kissed up to UEFA

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IIRC the FFP rules were instituted to prevent teams from spending beyond their means and going bankrupt. Hence, UEFA has killed small and medium sized clubs from being able to compete for big transfers. But they let the richest clubs (PSG + Premier League) do whatever they want, because they are rich af.

So FFP has just widened the already widening disparity between the richest (i.e. top 6 PL clubs + PSG) and everyone else

I think some of the big spending is a product of NOT doing the super league. They had money squirrelled away for the league entry, and now have it to spend willy nilly.

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I guess but to me the whole free transfer thing is not free, see Alaba contract with madrid as prime example is more my point but I get what your saying and I totally agree. I would personally like to see UEFA have a salary cap similar to how La Liga has to keep clubs like PSG, City, etc from simply hoarding talent to win the damn thing but as my above post alluded to I have zero faith in UEFA to do the right thing. FFP is simply unenforced to the bigger clubs and is really a joke that needs to be rebuilt.

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It's really getting insane... At least each individual league should look at doing something. I guess La Liga has taken some action to restrict Barcelona for their reckless spending.

As much as I hated the super league, it might not be the worst if those ~15 clubs only competed with each other and could no longer compete in domestic leagues with all the normal sized clubs. If you want to spend like you're in a league of your own, go be in your own league and don't play in the domestic leagues with all the normal sized clubs

looks like PSG's stance is just "FFP be damned, we'll deal with the consequences when they come in three years and let's hope we win the UCL before that"

In PSG they are very clear that they want to fit all the players. The next time PSG can be sanctioned is in 3 years. Therefore, what they want is to win the Champions League and if they are sanctioned in 3 years it will have been worth it.

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City's plan was using an entire country's legal team to sludge up the process until all the evidence became inadmissible for time elapsed reasons.

Isnt FFP supposed to limit spending beyond the clubs means to prevent club collapse? Its not really there to level the playing field. If you almost unlimited means and funding, they shouldn't have an issue with FFP.

UEFAs laws are a so weird, why they had a time clause in the issue with City and somehow didnt know they had that law in there shows how little focus it has. How can there be a 3 year cooldown in a sense for a law like this only UEFA could think of something that dumb. Hell break a pansy slap on the wrist rule to get you three free years of whatever you want and suffer later. Maybe theyll get the PSU treatment if they manage to actually win something in this window and have whatever they win in UEFA comps stripped.

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Josh Sargent joins Norwich City-gonna be quite a look in the yellow and green of the Canaries.

I hope he's up for it, I'm a bit less optimistic than most us fans on him and I felt a year in the bundesliga 2 could've helped him in his development by letting him have a better more solid goal scoring season to build confidence. Atleast Norwich like to play fun football

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Hopefully he'll get some sub appearances and maybe take over for Pukki by the end of the year. Norwich are going to be relegated so he can be in the Championship next year and score some goals. Lines up perfectly for Qatar

The USMNT desperately needs somebody to step up at striker and take hold of the #9 role. Worries me a bit that he won't be starting for his club right as we start getting into WCQ, especially since he's arguably the starter for the US.

True, but Norwich are going to be trailing a lot so there will be chances for attacking substitutions. Other than an aging Pukki, his competitors for playing time had 700 mins, 4 goals and 340 mins, 3 goals. He has more than enough opportunity to get a foothold.

It is a bit worrisome, but Bremen were absolutely awful and he had to get out of there. Plus he's probably getting paid a lot more

Its not that he wont get opportunities to play but its the level hes going to be playing against that is more of my concern, is he really ready for this level to be a striker in the top level of english football? I want him to succeed so bad for the US's sake as we have enough hard working not really a goal threat number 9s and we badly need someone who just scores goals.

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The super-sub strikers with high work rate and no finishing ability might be the deepest position in the USMNT pool next to the ridiculous depth we have on the wings.

Man I wish it wasn't true but we need another altidore/Dempsey we already have a couple zardes clones and zardes is a dude and I love him but we need someone to score the goals

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He was fairly well-regarded in the Bundesliga - there was talk of Leverkusen buying him.

Bremen is a really really bad team. It's difficult for a striker like him, who isn't a creator off the dribble to thrive on a team like Bremen. We will find out if Bremen was holding him back or if that's just his level. Either way, we need to find out sometime and he's still very young.

It seems like Messi to PSG is finally a done deal. That team is gonna be insane and anything less than winning the Champions League should be a disappointment for them.

Maybe they'll finally be able to win Ligue 1 this season. /s

I think I might get sick seeing him in a not barca shirt and of all the clubs he chose PSG.

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Of all the cities in Europe to live as a wealthy athlete, Paris would be pretty close to the top of my list.

Plus one of his best friends and Argentina teammate Angel di Maria is there, which likely helped.

I get all that which I'm fine with hell I'm happy for a few of my friends who are PSG fans but its the ownership of the club hes joining I despise which was all my point was plus his wages priced him out of most clubs in europe so its no surprise just kind of sad to see it to me is all.

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To be fair, the ownership of pretty much every major club has warts, dirty money, oligarchs, etc.

icardi and paredes play for argentina too, plus pochettino as manager is also argentine. psg has a solid recent history of argentine players with lavezzi and pastore as well

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lukaku to chelsea is official for 115m euros

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And to think they could've had Lukaku, Salah AND De Bruyne all on the same team as far back as five years ago without spending a penny

plus a whole mess of other solid players -- bamford, bertrand traore, nathan ake, thorgan hazard etc

btw you know we're getting old because KDB left for Wolfsburg 8 years ago and Lukaku for Everton 7

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Imagine selling a player for what 27 million 7 years ago and then rebuying the player at 28 for damn near 4 times that.

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Oligarch money don't care

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Ødegaard to Arsenal on a permanent deal. Really glad they were able to get it done. Wish it had been sooner, but sometimes you just have to wait until the end of the window.

Looks like Ramsdale is done as well, £24m plus add ons. Ødegaard for £30-35m I think. Honestly, I'm not as down on the Ramsdale deal as many others. He's played for some truly awful teams and he's still very young for a GK. With the more strict homegrown players rules likely coming soon, the price of English players in only going to increase. Hearing they will do one more incoming deal before the end of the window. Good news for Arsenal is they're starting to buy young players who will retain value and get better as opposed to...Willian.

So as someone who only watched ramsdale last season when he was atleast in my eyes not very good I'm not sure I get this deal? Why not try and add more help at cb or rb or maybe work on adding some midfield help?

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Four deep at CB with Chambers who can spot start if needed. Midfield is bolstered with Lokonga and Ø. RB is still a glaring hole.

Too much money to spend on a #2 GK, Leno will be gone after the year I'd guess. He hasnt been great. For remaining deals I'd love to see mostly outgoings. AMN could fetch a nice lil fee, getting anyone to take Kolasinac/Willian if we can swing it would be yuge

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Yeah I read that they're going to focus on outings mostly and try to get one more big deal over the line (hoping RB). Ramsdale is the backup but they know Leno is leaving so it's kinda like a #1? I don't love it and I still don't really understand why they didn't get Onana, but I don't think it's a terrible signing.

Onana is suspended for a little while and he realized he can just leave on a free when his contract is up and make more in wages 🤷‍♂️

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I know he's suspended, but it was like 6-7m to sign him? Could've offered him huge wages with the money they saved. Idk, whatever. I've been an Arsenal fan long enough to know that since everyone hates the Ramsdale signing, he'll probably be the best of the bunch in a couple years.

He can have his pick of the bunch too rather than hoping ajax come to an agreement? Definitely a curious one

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Like GGC mentioned those spots are pretty well filled at the moment. Really don't have room without sales that aren't possible at this time.

As far as Ramsdale, I know very little about him other than he played for Sheffield and Bournemouth in seasons where both got relegated by a large amount of points. They were both awful teams. He's young and made the England Euro squad as the backup. He's looked pretty bad, but it's hard to imagine a keeper looking great playing for the worst team in the PL in back to back seasons. He might be bad but he might be good, and it's a fine price if he ends up being good.

USMNT Hoppe to Everton (reportedly). Actually a bit more excited about this than Sargent. Everton will actually stay up and I don't think they really have anyone behind DCL at striker so he may get a chance. Probably won't play much this season though unless it's on the wing.

Lots and lots of smoke around Saul leaving atleti since simeone keeps playing him all over the place with Chelsea and Man U interested. Chelsea have reportedly tabled a loan with buy option for him and United are very much in contact as well. Interesting to see how this plays out Ole has hinted that he hopes there is one more signing and seems to be they are looking heavily at the midfield so this could be that one player but Chelsea will have some say it seems though they already have a load of CM's.

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And now lots of reports that Real Madrid are stepping up in pursuit of Mbappe and have bid around 188 million for him will be interesting to see this play out

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Tottenham is looking to get Traore Diaz and 1 of McKinne or Frank Kessie. Probably gonna offload Ndombule for one of the midfielder's also wouldn't surprise me if winks gets offloaded as well

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They need to keep Winks as a homegrown player, as much as I hate to say it. Either Ndombele, sissoko, and maybe aurier need to be moved before we can get anyone tbh

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Brad thinks Harry Winks is the best Harry on spurs!

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Harry Winks is a dreadful, dreadful player. Not good!

You love him with all your heart! Fan favorite!

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No!

Kane announces he will be staying this summer in a not surprising twist its too late in the window to replace him properly and City dont seem that hot for him at the moment. Now to see what kind of deals happen this week as teams ramp up in desperation.
Brandon Williams got loaned to Norwich as well sunday.

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Yeah if you thought the tevez to city thing pissed off united supporters that would be a bridge burner of a move.

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Kane announces he will be staying this summer

i found it odd he specifically said "this summer", and makes me think we fire up the Ol Speculator come january window

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That was my thought as well like why even add "this summer" if he was going to stay all season just say season but to me this means he may still want out one way or another.

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I wonder if he just wants to see success, and is willing to see if Espirito Santo can help get them there... leaving next summer open if they have a disappointing year.

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Leonardo has confirmed publicly that Mbappe wants to leave and they wont get in his way as long as their terms are met. This transfer window is gonna be nuts the last few days.

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What the actual fluck is going on in world football today, today Pep seems to hint that when his contract is up in 2023 at City he is going to take a break from management. Not that this is surprising just feels like a weird time to come out with this.

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Zouma to west ham for 30M and that would mean Kounde from sevilla to chelsea looks good to go.

Ronaldo to Man city wont go away and bunch of journos in portugal claiming its done but this feels weird and like some move by mendes to get another club interested.

Real madrid supposedly back in with a 200 mil dollar bid for Mbappe, I get PSG dont care about money but 200M for a player on one year left contract is stupid money and should be a no brainer. Take the 200M and reinvest in the shit defense or bolster the midfield you still have neymar and messi lifes not that bad.

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These Messi and Ronaldo moves are worst case for so many fans.

A sizable overlap in Ronaldo fans tend to not like Pep, for obvious reasons, Messi/Barca fans have hated PSG for years, Ronaldo to City would be upsetting to some United fans (though he did all you could have hoped from him during his time at United). City and PSG are two of the generally most disliked teams in the world for being the state backed oil clubs, and now could have the two most globally popular footballers in history.

On the Mbappe front, I am calmly confident we will get Mbappe before the window closes, but I'm not letting myself get too excited. Any fee mentioned so far has been worth it imo for a 22 year old who is almost guaranteed to be the best player in the world for most of the next decade. I would argue that he has already been more decisive in big matches in recent years than almost any big name you could posit as still being better than him.

So as a diehard united fan the ronaldo to City shit has my blood ready to boil and if he pulls that shit off he will go from prodigal son to satan quick that move has nothing but money written all over it. I get that city are competitive in CL and thats what he wants but its fucking city of all clubs. He was immense for United a while ago but this is a move that just smells like shit to me and it would stain him for me atleast a good while if not for a really long time as to me thats a rival club not just a big club in another league.
Messi to PSG is what it is they have been flirting for a few years so I wasnt to surprised but I completely agree its kinda shitty to see these guys going to those clubs.

I agree on Mbappe if the money and the bid are legit which is something that could be real simply saying to the fans look we tried but couldnt do it kind of thing but it doesnt appear that way to me atleast. For a 22 year old who would likely be the face of RM and La Liga for who knows how long but it wouldnt be a stretch to say 8-10 years atleast 200M is chump change for a shot now vs having to go into a bidding war next summer as a free agent.

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I get that. I do not like City as well for non rivalry reasons, and I don't want to see Ronaldo play for Pep, who I do dislike for rivalry reasons, but it can't stain CR for me as a Madrid fan. The gap between Barca's squad and our 08/09 squad was ocean sized, and he chose to bring us back from the ashes against the best Barca era in history over joining them. He also brought us La Decima and the CL three peat. There's nothing in a sporting sense he could do that would spoil him. All that to say, I absolutely hope this deal falls through.

Totally get it for you I guess it would be like him going to Barca is kinda how it is on my end and I remember the 2000s well but it's been a while. I would love to know what Fergie thinks about this move

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Ronaldo and Fergie's bond goes way beyond football. I doubt it would impact anything between them. Though I would have to imagine that historically, it would be much worse if he went to Liverpool. Obviously City has been the more recent devil, but surely Liverpool is a closer comparison to a Madrid-Barca rivalry.

That was my thought Chris. I mean historically it's been Liverpool/Arsenal. Most United fans I know don't count City as a rival. But what do I know?

They had a Sky News show on this very topic, is City a real rival to Man U

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I agree slightly I see the point and it's valid but still kinda shitty but when your wages and fees are that high you don't have many options so some may give him a pass

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Historically Man United have a far richer story than citeh...man city fans can't stand United but Citeh always had a little brother complex. Aside from some titles 60+ years ago they didn't do much. Any United fans worth their salt would tell you their main rivals were either Liverpool or Leeds. That has changed since the Qataris bought them but not really enough to alter opinions about rivals.

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I dunno if I get the drop the Kane hunt and spend similar money on a 36 almost 37 year old ronaldo for one, maybe 2 years vs probably 4-5 years of Kane.

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There is a such a stigma around Kane in England. See Joe Flacco type meh attitude. Great if he plays for you, but teams aren't willing to break the bank for him. Plus CR7 sells kits!!!! Lots and lots and lots of merch and kits.

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I hate Levy. The man never wants to buy anyone yet expects to finish top 6 every year😠

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Usually I'd agree. But we just bought a new stadium and financing post covid is vastly different. We need to get out from Sissoko, Ndombele, and other poor contracts.

It's tough because I think spurs think they are too big to go 100% on youth development at the potential expense of European football (lol) and too small to spend legitimate big boy dollars. So we'll continue to sputter around mid table

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Nah I think Nuno gonna ride the ship

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Lol this transfer window is crazy

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He apparently skipped training today as well. I was really hoping this story was smoke for another move but fuck it looks like it might happen after all. Hopefully the fans at old trafford sing bruno bruno is better than cristiano just to jab him a bit

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Can someone much smarter than me explain FFP and how City can afford Grealish and Ronaldo in a single window? I know they play with monopoly money but it seems outrageous to be able to do that

So its kind of weird and lots and lots of ways around FFP. Swiss rambler on twitter is a brilliant feed for those who want the juicy details. I'm not sure how they float ronaldos wages without selling someone but the thing with a guy like ronaldo is he is a commercial money making tycoon and will earn city a decent enough sum to make it doable within FFP most likely though not sure if he will generate the same amounts as he did with Juve and definitely not the sums he made man united and RM as they are significantly bigger and nuttier fan bases.

On how they can do this deal they are basically going to take his last year at Juve which had him set to earn roughly 75 mil I think and split it into two years to spread the impact out and then they will probably incentivize the hell out of it. By splitting the wages in half and making it over two years that will allow them to float it plus the rumored fee is chump change for the money they will make back in jersey sales and all other merch.

However I still find it difficult to believe they are well within the bounds as I would think they still need to offload to afford all this but maybe not since all this stuff is not public record stuff nobody really knows the financial details within these clubs like Chelsea, Man city, Barca, RM, Man U etc so unfortunately we wont ever get an honest glimpse at these things.

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FFP looks at a 3 year window. They also basically paused restrictions last year for COVID, so even if they're technically back in place it's unlikely anything would come of it. Again, 3 year window so they just need to make a bunch of money this year and next year. Also, lawyers

they also had some significant wages come off the books in the last few years with Aguero and David Silva moving on

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These accounting departments must be amazing

Ask the Tampa Bay Lightning accounting team...

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they really are -- for FFP accounting, sales are typically seen as a lump-sum windfall even if the payment is structured in installments. but for buys, the fee is amortized over the length of the player's contract. So I can buy Jack Grealish for 100m, but sign him to a six year deal and count it as 16.67m expense each year for the next six. Then I sell Angeliño to RB Leipzig for 16.3m, and accounting-wise it goes down as a ~400k net spend for the year.

Furthermore, ever wonder why big new signings seem to get new contracts after a year or two? The transfer fee remaining gets further amortised over the new deal -- the equivalent of refinancing your mortgage down to reduce your monthly payments while stretching out the original debt over a longer total term. Two years into Jack Grealish's six year contract, you've accounted for 33.3m of his transfer fee, for 66.7m still "on your books". Then you sign him to a new five year deal, give him a bit of a raise, and instead of the deal counting 16.67m against your spend every year for the next four, the hit becomes 13.34m for the next five.

This is often why you typically don't see players involved in swap deals, but rather it's always announced as two separate deals -- see Pjanic-for-Arthur, Danilo-for-Cancelo. It looks on its face like Pjanic + 12m for Arthur, but fact that it was structured as Pjanic for 60m and Arthur for 72m highlights how creative the accounting was. It's far more favorable to have a sale of 60m (or 72m, in Barca's case) even with a big spend the other way than to have a marginal spend with no sale recorded.

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Right on cue --- €68m at time of sale, stretched to six years (the length of his initial contract) with Otamendi for €15m going the other way. €68m over 6 years is €11.33m annually, the first year of which was more than offset by the Otamendi sale. Now, a year later, with a new six year contract, the remaining €56.67m is stretched out and becomes an annual accounting hit of €9.45m. All of this after City already sent a €56m lump sum to Benfica. So while the actual spend was €56m last summer, for FFP purposes it goes down as City actually made a slight profit on this deal.

The issue is when you have multiple big deals amortized at the same time (like City do) without selling anyone. City bought Ferran Torres and Nathan Ake last summer too. But they also sold Leroy Sane for €45m (potentially up to 60m with escalators/add-ons). Teams like Barca kept increasing wages and paying exorbitant fees for players, and kept up sales and structured deals creatively just enough not to run afoul of FFP, but the FFP accounting and the real world accounting in terms of actual cash aren't exactly the same and then all of a sudden you have no money and you're entirely crippled by a ton of debt that's being supported by a house of cards.

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Allegri confirms Ronaldo has told him he doesnt want to play for Juve anymore in his presser today so yeah that looks dead on to be happening.

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And now Fabrizio Romano is tweeting that United are seriously interested and that they are working on a bid as well.
Ole in his presser today hinted at it as well but could all be posturing for fans to say we tried but oh well if they dont get him too. I had a gut feeling when the city link was announced it was simply Mendes trying to get Man united to bite and get a better contract and offer as well from united.

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Serious smoke from what I've heard. Heard the whole city thing was a bluff to pull out other teams. Seeing he won't go to City now. Don't like either team but for the sake of the league I would prefer him at Man U

Go for it

I would much prefer him at Man U as well.

The Ronaldo back to United smoke is getting much hotter. This is vastly preferable outcome for so many reasons than him going to City. If he manages to help bring United their first PL title since Fergie that would be a perfect way to bookend his career at the highest level.

Deal looks likely at this point if it fell apart I would be stunned. Hes already left italy and is in Lisbon and all the smoke from ex united guys says they know its gonna happen.

For me this has been a wild as hell 24 hours and emotionally I am so relieved he didnt go to City.

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Do you think it makes United real contenders Nator?

Note: They had a great shot before this potential signing, so this isn't a slight.

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I've been discussing this with a few friends this am as the deal started to feel more likely to happen. I think they definitely become a stronger contender, but the PL this season could be one of the most competitive in a long time from multiple challengers. City will remain a favorite, Chelsea has assembled an insane amount of talent + Tuchel came in and fixed their most glaring defensive issues, Liverpool will be much healthier this year (assumption), and United has solidified their back line with Varane, upgraded their attack with Sancho (and potentially Ronaldo now), so the midfield still gives me the most pause in terms of what could hurt them over a 38 match season, but they seem like a real deal title contender.

What I will say is Ole has no excuses at this point, the midfield is decent enough to get something good out of it but it's the one position I'm still skeptical of.

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So I'm torn here are they better off yes he improves us but to the level of city or Chelsea and liverpool I'm not sure. The one issue remains the manager, can he make it work and can he figure out how to get the best from him?

Depth wise this is a brilliant move and with rashford out still a while and injuries and COVID will happen this makes the front line much deeper and more talented but I am gutted for greenwood who I was hoping would have a big year. He will still play alot but I was expecting greenwood to have a big role that may get shrunk a bit with Ronnie back

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Just like that Ronaldo to Man U is confirmed

Go for it

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Man united Twitter have announce the deal it's done cristiano is back at old Trafford. Messi and Ronaldo both moved in one window and Mbappe still maybe move this window has been bonkers.

That all said LETS FUCKING GOOOOOOO

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It helps the attack for sure, but I'm not sure it solves the defensive midfielder issues, nor the keeper issues, nor the right back concerns that some Man U fans have. CR7 is a legend, but he's not the player that he once was, and I think the physicality of a 38 game season in the EPL will wear on a player that age. I'm sure many Man U fans hope I'm wrong. We shall see how this plays out. I'm just glad he didn't go to City...LOL.

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Honestly I;m not sure theres an easy fix for the midfield Saul maybe but then again I'm not sure hes had a few poor seasons and would need time to adjust so really I think its gonna be more just go for the throat approach if I had to guess. Honestly he wont play all games he knows that and with Cavani and Greenwood both very good options ole can rotate comfortably and if one gets hurt we will still be okay.
The RB thing is dumb for me the fans who dislike Wan Bissakka are nitpicking, hes a damn good defender and hes still young and with Shaw bombing forward on the left he should be left as cover more often anyway especially if you try and play both bruno and pogba in the midfield you need defensive cover and AWB has pace and can tackle like nobodys business. I want nothing to do with the trippier thing hes old and can get forward but AWB is a hell of a defender and is gonna get better.
one of my fave podcasts they talked about maybe instead of finding a Kante to just get better defenders and thats what they did with Varane so personally I'm okay going into the season with Fred and Scott as the options but only if Ole will quit trying to play them together once the forwards are all fit and healthy. I'm cautiously optimistic but Ole remains the biggest worry this season.

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I'm with you on AWB....I think he's a decent RB, not the best, but decent.

I also agree with you that your biggest concern is Ole, not the keeper LOL #OleAtTheWheel

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The whole AWB isnt good enough going forward things rubbish hes far better to what we had for a time with young and the other players who were cut for it once Evra left so I'm fine with AWB.
Ole has shown he can recruit talent but he needs to develop and produce silverware and so far hes lacking there.

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I am hoping with McTominay out that Ole will play DVB in that spot. I know not a like for like but with his ability to see the long pass I think he would do well for cover in the back!

I wouldnt count on it VDB seems to be in a weird spot where no matter what ole seems to not want to give him a run. I honestly see him as more of an 8 than a 6 and maybe thats why ole wont use him there. That said against lesser opposition I would love to see ole quit using two holding mids and start being more progressive with Varane in the back line now.

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Everton bid for AMN and then arsenal have rejected it and then AMN decided to put this on his insta story. fun times in north london.

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Deadline day is tomorrow so things should get hot before 5 tomorrow.

Zouma got done to Chelsea after some late worries.

Kounde to chelsea may be up in the air after what Chelsea thought to be an agreement word is Sevilla now want them to pay his 90m release clause so that may be off. Though Kounde wasnt in the gameday squad this past weekend.

Willian terminated his contract with Arsenal saving them a reported 20m pounds which seems odd but he was never going to play so he wanted out and arsenal wouldnt negotiate a reasonable fee. Off to corinthians in brazil for him.

Saul deal to a PL team seems to have fallen flat and he may be stuck in La Liga another year atleast, his contract has been a huge hindrance to all pursuing parties.

Mbappe to Madrid is off by the looks of it till Janruary when he can sign a pre-contract then to go to Madrid in the summer. Makes most sense for all parties and then Madrid can keep the money and use it on Mbappe contract and other players.

Camivinga to RM seems to be gaining momentum could be smoke but some reliable sources reporting a 35m euro bid today and for a player with one year left and who wont resign could tempt Rennes.

Ronaldo medical was done today, wouldnt expect a formal announcement till later in the week.

Diogo Dalot was trying to get a loan deal to Boruissa Dortmund but it fell through and United want him to stay as backup for AWB. Not surprised here as I think Dalot is a good young prospect and is good going forward.

However it does sound like Dortmund are pursuing a loan move for Callum Hudsion-Odoi from chelsea. He likely wont play much with Tuchels formation and depth chart so this looks like a smart move for all needed. Mallen doesnt look good in a two with Halaand and with 2 wingers either side of Halaand they would be a bit better I think.

Sabitzer gets a move from RB Leipzig to Bayern Munich for 15m euros. Had one year left of his deal and didnt want to resign and BM was his preference, good price for a solid midfield option in a team whos thin there.

Chelsea still have alot of players to move I think theyre current roster is 38 players and guys like Barkley need permanent moves out. Lots of moves still left there.

Maitland Niles is trying to get a move to Everton but so far arsenal are unwilling to sell could happen tomorrow though.

RB leipzig are looking to have closed in on Moriba from Barcelona for 20m euros good deal for a very talented youngster. Barca are not pleased to have him leave but they couldnt offer what RB leipzig offered money wise.

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Daniel James looks off to Leeds united from man united for roughly 25m euros. Bielsa has wanted him for a bit fits the high press and attack style but in order for james to become better he needs to develop end product.

Looks like Cavani may be in the window as well Barca reportedly in for him which may mean aguero is gonna be hurt a while.

Ronaldo deal is official and signed now. Looks like united are paying for him with five installments of a meek 2.5m pounds each.

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Takehiro Tomiyasu, Japanese RB from Bologna is reportedly headed to Arsenal for around £16m. That should do it, all problems are now fixed 😂

Bellerin also headed out to Betis on loan, no buy option. Reiss Nelson to Feyenoord, Elneny maybe back to Turkey, Willian to Corinthians 🎉, AMN maybe to Everton. Whew. At least Arsenal will save some money while being bad

USMNT deadline day update:

- Gold Cup star Matthew Hoppe is headed to RCD Mallorca in La Liga for around 4m Euro (what a great place to get paid to live and play soccer)
- Chris Richards (CB) headed back to Hoffenheim on loan from Bayern. He spent the second half of last season there and was quite good. I was personally hoping for a permanent move as I'm not sure he'll ever get enough time at Bayern, but better than nothing I suppose.
- Erik Palmer-Brown (CB) headed to Troyes at the bottom of Ligue 1 on loan. He is technically a City player, but he played at least the last year in Austria for Rapid Wien (2nd best team in Austria) and I think he was quite good there.

There have been other deals that have happened throughout the summer, but these are the ones I have seen going down today

Niko Gioacchini moves from Caen in Ligue 2 to Montpellier in Ligue 1. Loan with €2m option to buy

Cameron Carter-Vickers goes on loan for the 15th year in a row from Spurs to Celtic