2021 NCAA Football Coaching Carousel

We are still in the midst of Week 1, but the hits have started, as UCONN has announced the immediate parting of ways with Randy Edsall, instead of him finishing at the end of the year.

As more coaches get fired, I'll try to update this, but in the meantime, feel free to comment and update when you hear of a change.

UCONN - Randy Edsall
Kansas - Les Miles
USC - Clay Helton

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Best move UConn could have made.

Take the shortest route to the ball and arrive in bad humor.

You hate to see it

It's always darkest before the dawn ~ Thomas Fuller

So he went from using UConn as a stepping stone to Maryland...to going back there after flaming out at Maryland...to getting politely shown the door at UConn his second time there.

I guess it's true what they say, it does in fact suck to suck.

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Braxton Burmeister, Ryan Willis, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

Did he get fired for sucking or was there more to it? Seems like a bizarre time to let go of a coach.

I'm sure there was more to it, but it probably had something to do with him sucking. There are a myriad of ways in which one can suck, after all.

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Braxton Burmeister, Ryan Willis, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

This gives the replacement coach the chance to actually do something with the rest of the year.

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The way he left the first time left a bad impression with folks.

Esdell: im gonna hang it up at the end of the season.

UCONN: fuck you. You're gone. I dumped you this time.

Getting an early start this year.

Guess on who is next?

"Give me a fuยขking beer", Anonymous Genius

Les Miles. Idk what his buyout is, and they probably can't pull in anybody better, but they certainly can't do much worse. That upcoming game vs Duke has Toilet Bowl written all over it. And Frost....and if LSU didn't sell their soul to Eddie O following 2019, I'd imagine people are beginning to murmur in Baton Rouge.

Amateur superstar and idiot extraordinaire.

He got fired in the offseason. Lance Leiopold from Buffalo is HC at Kansas now

Well they should fire him again, just to send a message.

Amateur superstar and idiot extraordinaire.

...and they won for the first time since October 2019. He only needs two more wins to tie the total from the Les "eat grass" Miles era (he was 3-18 at KU). Ouch.

I was kinda reading this as "who's next as a replacement for Edsall" because something tells me Frost will be around after the season too, but even then... I guess he doesn't remember why Miles got fired. Either way, I can't believe that UCONN spent time ranked under Edsall at all the first time around.

Les just got fired from Kansas

TKPhi Damn Proud
BSME 2009

2 good friends that went to NU, and they are ready for Frost to be gone yesterday.

With that said, they and their families (the Nebraska fans I interact with on a regular basis) seem pretty realistic about the actual state of Husker football. That's why it's such a big deal for them to keep their sellout streak going. "It's the only thing we have left"

We were so close to 100 and have probably sold out 10 games since:/

Amateur superstar and idiot extraordinaire.

Crazy to think they moved on from Bo Pelini to this...

Previously LowBrau.

Has the coaching carousel ever started this early?

Sure makes you wonder why they even let him coach the first game. Pure speculation on my part but seems like there had to have been some internal debate in the AD office at UConn ahead of the season and some support for making a coaching change ahead of the season for the rug to be pulled this quickly. I suppose his announced retirement at the end of the season played a large role in starting the season with him.

To be the man you gotta beat the man!

If I recall, Southern Miss fired it's coach after one game last season. As someone else speculated, I think for it to happen so early the AD has to already want the coach gone before the season starts.

Some twitter smoke about a possible post game incident(s) b/t Edsall, the players, administration, but nothing confirmed.

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BSME 2009

I watched some of Edsall's team vs Holy Cross, and PEEEEE-EWWWW. Holy Cross didn't win by accident.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

Fresno State made UCONN look like an FCS school with how much they dominated them. Not overly surprising that an actual FCS school could make them look bad.

You can make an argument that Edsall is the worst head coach in college history for the number of games he has coached. Terrible, awful.

I don't think he would be the worst, just because he did get UCONN to a BCS bowl (even if it was at the tail end of the Big East), but man have things gone downhill since then. For him and UCONN.

You can also make an argument that he is one of the greatest coaches of all time because he somehow took UConn to a BCS bowl game.

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Clay Helton...come on down!

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

Why fire a coach after the 2nd game? The AD must have known this was coming. Wouldn't it make more sense to do it before the season?

A lot of USC fans have been clamoring for him to be let go for a few years. Leinart and Keyshawn Johnson came out guns blazing pretty publicly saying that he needs to go ASAP. I don't know what the final straw was, but I'm also guessing some of the boosters stepped up to make this happen too.

I wouldn't be surprised if the early season success that UCLA has had had something to do with this.

I am far from convinced that a win over an LSU team that is looking more and more like a one year wonder means UCLA is "bak", but that may be the perception in SoCal.

That's what fanbases and boosters tend to do..overreact. Rival has success with a high-profile Coach??? Well, better go get us one too!!!

Not that I think Helton was really going to lead USC to much more than mediocrity, but Kelly may have accelerated his demise.

One interesting point for VT...when there was lots of projection that they were going to fire Helton a couple years ago, a name that continually surfaced was James Franklin...it definitely wouldn't be a bad thing to have him out of our Recruiting territory.

Not that the Trojans typically poach recruits from the DMV/Carolinas, but if Franklin were to go to Pasadena, could USC become a name in the game here? Obviously there's plenty of brand recognition. Would recruits start thinking about switching coasts?

Franklin would definitely recruit well at USC, but they have always recruited well anyway just because of being USC. The biggest downfall with USC since the Pete Carroll era is their defense and offensive line, IMO. They used to be one of the top defensive units in the country and could dominate the line on both sides of the ball. They also always had a strong running game. I think they should probably go defense with this hire to counter what Chip Kelly is doing at UCLA. Recruit some elite NFL size in the trenches again and USC will be back.

Honestly, I kinda respect it. If you've got a coach that's been on the hot seat the last couple of years anyway and you give it one more go, then it starts out looking the same, just rip the band-aid off and get it over with. You also can go ahead and start your search early over everyone else and plenty of interested candidates now know you're out there so they themselves can start planning. 2nd game might be a little early but if you did a month from now, fine. I just don't think there's much benefit in keeping the lame duck once you've decided in your head its over.

USC has gone from prestige worldwide to steaming pile of white dog shit very quickly. Together both they and Florida state are so poorly run it ain't funny

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Add Texas to the poorly run list as well

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I'd hold on them sarkesian is a hell of a coach and I think he might be able to get a tune out of them in a year or two. Lots of deadwood to clear out on that roster

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

He's made a pretty good turnaround since getting fired at USC six years ago. Good to see he's gotten back on track WRT his issues.

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

If true, Wow, just wow.

It's true. Doesn't get much more official than directly from the Athletic Director.

This firing combined with the Jacksonville Jaguars has started up the internet meme train about Urban Meyer taking this job.

I'll help Urban pack. Didn't want him in in Duval before, haven't liked his hires, didn't liked his draft pick usage and haven't liked his coaching. Don't really like him or his wife as people.

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Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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I know it's super unlikely but...Justin Fuente to usc?

It's always darkest before the dawn ~ Thomas Fuller

Penn St may be more of a concern if Franklin goes to USC. Depends on the domino effect.

I'm still in wait and see mode the next few games. I'd hate for VT to turn into a stepping stone. I'd rather we keep Fuente if he continues to have a good year.

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BSME 2009

"Concern" isn't the word I would choose when referring to Fuente leaving

I wouldn't mind VT becoming a "stepping stone" if that means we get up and coming coaches who are hungry to prove themselves and make us better in the process.

I agree that we should be in wait and see mode. I'm really happy with the start we've had to 2021 but is it fools gold? Hard to say. I think the defense has been spectacular. I'm not sold on this offense. I don't think any decisions should be or will be made until the end of the year when we have a full season of games to evaluate.

It's always darkest before the dawn ~ Thomas Fuller

I think at this point Fu is staying. The defense looks to be back to form so far, which was a massive question mark coming into the season. The offense isn't what we expected, but I think most likely at this point, barring a collapse of epic proportions, Fu stays and maybe we see a shakeup on the offensive staff for next year with the new funding for football coming online. It was rumored we looked into a new OC after 2019 but were outbid. Not sure if it's true or not, but if Fu sticks around, I think he will have to shake up the O staff at least.

One interesting thought I had since Helton was let go was looking into Graham Harrell coming onboard. His expertise in the passing game and Mike Leach system would be interesting to pair with our resurgent run game and Fu's offense. Lack of a strong passing attack seems to be the biggest drawback of our offense currently. Harrell also has lots of TX/OK ties and even coached under a former OU teammate of Fu's as OC at North Texas before USC.

I think at this point Fu is staying.

At this point, yeah, absolutely. But we're only two games in. 10 more games to play. A lot can change.

maybe we see a shakeup on the offensive staff for next year with the new funding for football coming online. It was rumored we looked into a new OC after 2019 but were outbid.

I have a hard time believing that money was a reason we didn't make a change to OC. I think if Fuente was serious about replacing BC that would have happened already. I don't buy a rumor that he considered replacing him after 2019.

if Fu sticks around, I think he will have to shake up the O staff at least.

I think Fuente had an opportunity to save his career in B'burg by firing BC after 2018. At this point, I think it's too little too late. He's tied himself to Corny and if the offense is the reason our team falters in 2021 I don't think firing BC saves himself.

One interesting thought I had since Helton was let go was looking into Graham Harrell coming onboard. His expertise in the passing game and Mike Leach system would be interesting to pair with our resurgent run game and Fu's offense.

I don't think it's fair to say we have a resurgent run game - it was great with KH but he was a generational talent at RB. I think our running game is fine but nothing to write home about. I think I would be okay with a Mike Leach disciple on our offensive coaching staff. Really, I just want someone who ticks 3 or more of the several boxes that BC currently checks none of - recruit, develop QB, gameplan to attack defensive weaknesses, breakdown film to understand weaknesses of our offense and our opponents' defenses, make in-game adjustments, effective and congruent play-calling.

It's always darkest before the dawn ~ Thomas Fuller

I think our run game is still good, we just don't have a back the caliber of Herbert this year with the vision and patience to hit those holes. Holston is a solid 4 yard per carry back, Blackshear seems to be the most effective, and so far King is running into the backs of our OL mostly (but great on kick returns). I like what Vice has done on the OL and think we have built something pretty solid there. QB recruiting, development, and coaching is a huge shortcoming of this staff and that needs to be addressed. Same with WR coaching and development right now.

I have a hard time believing that money was a reason we didn't make a change to OC. I think if Fuente was serious about replacing BC that would have happened already. I don't buy a rumor that he considered replacing him after 2019.

BC almost left to take another job, so Fu possibly talking to other OCs is not out of the realm around that time period.

Now, I don't think Fu would replace Corny willingly. Reading through French's review yesterday, Corny called a good game. But we have a position coach that isn't doing a great job at coaching his position group.

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BSME 2009

(no snark) Who was sniffing around BC? I don't remember hearing about that I don't think.

Don't know, but Holmon Wiggins left for Alabama a week after #sauces were sharing rumors of coaching changes.

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BSME 2009

I think from a macro standpoint, it is hard to take top 25 recruiting classes and be good at everything we fans want to be good at. Schools in our tier need to focus on an identity and game plan to it. The staff has struggled establishing that identity. For whatever reason, the game planning when we are punching above our weight class seems to be pretty good considering what we are working with. A lot is left to be desired in coin flip and below games though. I dont know exactly what my point is but I am cautious in thinking we could just have a flashier offensive philosophy and we would be great. I think the philosophy is Fuente's. Otherwise, he would have made the change. Dollar for dollar, Corny may be one of the best valued coordinators in the country purely based on how little he is compensated. I assume Fuente has his finger on the offense a lot more than we think. A change would probably look more like Stiney to Lefty versus Corny to chip Kelly.

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Agreed. If there's ever any change on the offensive staff, make no mistake this will still be Fu's offense at its core. We would likely bring in somebody with some connections to Fu or someone recommended by people he trusts, and they would be adding perspective and wrinkles to his scheme, but not wholesale scheme change. I think at this point that's basically what we need. I like parts of the offense, just think QB/WR coaching and development is holding us back.

Can't agree with this enough. Especially watching Hooker competently throw over the middle Saturday and seeing box scores for NDSU's first two games

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I'm waiting until at least 6 games to decide. Have to see what they do with WVa and Pitt. I had those 2 marked as the toss-up games that could/should/would decide things as they would shape the season.

Of course, I had UNC pretty much marked down as a loss, so ...

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I also had UNC marked as a Loss - mostly because I had no idea that our defense was going to hold Sam Howell to 10 points. If this defense proves to be a reincarnation of Bud's great defenses of old I think we will win a lot of games this year. I never, in a million years, thought we'd beat UNC in 2021 by scoring only 17 points. But here we are.

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to me that doesn't make sense for a number of reasons - he's a Texas guy, and he already hates the PR part of the job in Blacksburg. I can only imagine the PR expectations for being out in LA. If I had to guess as to who would be the front runner its probably Fickell - Current USC AD Bohn was the guy that hired Fickell at Cincy.

I'm not arguing one way or another about it being a good coaching fit, but Fuente is NOT an LA guy from what we've seen. If he leaves on his own, I think it will be for a more rural college town setting.

Even if he doesn't leave on his own you're right that a more rural college town setting is probably more likely

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Fickell has never lived outside of Ohio apart from one year with the Saints, so I don't think that'll ever change

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This is not directed at you necessarily, but I never understood the whole "He's not a [location] guy, it'll never happen".

People out there are saying Fickell is an Ohio guy and he'll never leave. But despite recent W/L records, USC is a top tier CFB job.

Maybe if Fuente wins the ACC this year. But my guess with the early signing period USC will want someone in place sooner than that.

I'd love for James Franklin to go to USC but unless they throw ungodly money at him, I don't see why he leaves PSU. I would guess Fickell is the top guy.

"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders via Ricky Bobby

If Franklin goes to USC, I think Fickle goes to PSU. I also think Fickle to USC is possible (USC AD Mike Bohn used to work at Cincy and was the one who hired Fickle there).

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I think Franklin to USC and then Fickell to Penn State makes too much sense

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I'll go Franklin to USC, Edsell to Penn State, Fickell to Alabama and Saban to VT!

Hey, I can dream can't I?

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Urban Meyer not going over well in JVille. Not shocked, wouldn't be surprised if USC is lining up the Brinks trucks.

Still think it's Fickell or Franklin.

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BSME 2009

I wouldn't make any judgements until week 6 honestly. Jacksonville didn't look good on defense, but their offense with a rookie QB didn't help them. If Lawrence doesn't throw those 3 picks the final score likely would have been much closer.

Urban's behavior is not going to sit well with pro players. Once they start chiming in he will announce the USC job has always been his dream and he misses shaping the lives of young men. Or he will pull a Red Fox, grab his chest and leave Jax only to magically be better at the end of the season so he can be announced as the USC coach.

Google Urban Meyer then go to News. It's already looking like a trainwreck.

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I did that yesterday and was shocked over the amount of rumors already swirling. If one were to consult only with Google you'd think Meyer already had the job at USC.

https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1438165281042583561

#Jaguars coach Urban Meyer answers a question about USC speculation now that the job is open: "No chance. I'm committed to here and building an organization."

So, just like Saban he'll be hired in 2 weeks or so?

wasn't he offered one of the most lucrative contracts for a coach (NCAA or NFL) ever at the time?

methinks he gonna be eating a lot of Papa John's pizza this fall

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Braxton Burmeister, Ryan Willis, Josh Jackson, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

I think Meyer sticks it out. He needs to get over the initial hump and eventually he will LOVE not having to recruit. when he gets guys in there that buy in, he can just coach football and motivate grown men. I think he is ultra competitive, so he won't want to suck. He will weed out me-first guys and win eventually. Jimmy Johnson went through it- said he quickly grew to love just coaching and not recrutiing.

Except one thing that makes him exceptional (he is very good at many things) is his ability to recruit. He can get the best players in CFB. Can he win against the best without them?

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

but that doesn't necessarily mean thats something one wants to do. I'm good at a lot of things that I dont enjoy doing.

How many coaching jobs is he going to take after saying coaching was bad for his heart in Florida? Never been a fan and I do not think he will make it through the grind of the NFL.

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It's all rumor, speculation and bs, but I do hope that this has legs. Send him far, far away from here.

Franklin had been linked to the USC job for 3 years at least

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I just don't see it as much of an improvement job-wise. He goes from blueblood school with a shot at the playoffs to a blueblood school with a shot at the playoffs that will be in need of major work and under more scrutiny.

Maybe if he hates cold winters and loves LA nightlife? Otherwise, the jobs seem pretty on par with one another.

I think the available resources (read:$$$$$) at USC are on a higher plane than PSU.

Plus, from a Recruiting standpoint, you are in a talent-rich area and your campus is in an absolute prime location as compared to Central PA.

Considering that the NIL opportunities in LA have to be much greater as well, there's a pretty significant upgrade.

And probably most important, the path to the Playoff is way easier in the PAC12 than B1G at this point.

Franklin is a very talented Recruiter but a very average X/O guy. If you put him @ USC, buy him some good coordinators and let him bring in talent, USC could quickly assert themselves in the PAC12

I hadn't considered the NIL end of things, but of all the money in LA, does any of it actually care about football?

Bienemy might finally get a HC job reports schefter

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

If I had to guess, this is a leverage move from Bienemy's people to show increased desire for his services and potentially for raise negotiations. He strikes me as someone who would rather have an NFL head coaching gig, but it wouldn't totally shock me if he took the USC job if legitimately offered.