Hokies were ranked 13th in the final poll prior to Tournament Selections. If the rankings mirror selections, Hokies would be a 4 seed in Stanfords bracket. Currently there would be no #1 or #2 seeds from the ACC as Notre Dame is #9 and NC St is #11 so they would be 3 seeds.
Notre Dame would likely be in Iowas bracket and NC ST in USCs bracket.
Syracuse and Louisville are both looking as likely 6 seeds at 22 and 24 in the rankings.
Obviously committee will likely vary somewhat but this gives everyone a starting point on what to expect.
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HOKIES!!!!
I hope the committee awards us a few home games and that Liz is healthy.
what are the odds that we scoot up to a 3 seed if we get liz back and the committee says "hey they went 1-2 without her but shes back now"?
I wouldn't expect any word from VT on Liz's status until after Selection Sunday other than rehabbing and looking out for her health and safety. Same story as this past week.
Just as long as Blacksburg hosts again and my season tickets get me my second NCAA hosting tickets in a row.
Notre Dame loses by 4 with Hidalgo forced to miss half of the second quarter because the officials ordered the removal of her nose piercing she had left in for every game so far. 🤷 obviously it shouldn't have been in but pretty convenient timing from officials. If it was an issue why wasn't she instructed to remove it at the beginning of the game. ACC now down to NC St and Duke, neither will be favored to make the elite 8.
they should have allowed her to remove her nose ring at half-time.
Apparently rule says remove after next break. But suspicious that this is the first time this year it was called out.
Meh - I dont have too much heartburn for someone who had been breaking the rules the entire year having to follow them.
Apparently she has already stated that she will wear it next year as well. I hope every ref next year makes her take it out. She is trying to be the exception to the rule. And yes, I would feel the same way if my NIL offer of Hardee's coupons and a free oil change is accepted and she comes here.
Depends on how you define break then. If it's next whistle or next end of period. Either way if it was a point of emphasis it should have been inspected before the game started. Not DURING a Sweet 16 game.
Thing is, if it wasCaitlin Clark , not a word would be said and there would be an espn article on how it was her good luck charm...
Yeah but Hidalgo and Juju Watkins have been the NCAA's darlings this year too which makes it all the more odd
Juju somewhat and Hidalgo lesser. This year has been all about Clark and second place Reese
Sickening
NC state advancing to E8 in womens and mens tonight.
I guess they are really stuck with their coach now.
I believe winning the ACC Tournament triggered an extension for Keatts but reaching Sweet 16 is a two year extension plus a $400K raise and $250K in post season bonuses.
It's all stupid, everyone sucks, and I hate sports.
Oh and congrats NC State I guess
The Mulkey article popped up in my "recommended links" this afternoon. I haven't paid for WaPo access to read it, but I recall that some here were anticipating the article.
I read it today. I mean it wasn't glowing but it didn't read like a hit piece that one should be pre-emptively threatening legal action.
It basically said she is gets great production out of her teams but if you can't help her, do something she disagrees with, or question her she will drop you and never speak to you again. That includes her Dad and sister. Shitty person who wins a lot of games essentially which I think most here already felt that way about her.
Agreed - felt like a nothing burger that just rehashes what everyone already knows ... she sucks
Yep, basically she's just super obsessed with her own image and will cut you in a second if you take away from her, whether it be athletes or family. Nothing bombshell, just that she's a trash human. Which in her eyes is a civil offense if you call her out on it, I guess.
All they did was say the quiet part out loud, and provide some supporting evidence.
Nothing anyone didn't already pretty much get.
They will also have all there facts straight so unless she wants to bring even more attention to the article she should let it be.
I think it's called the Streisand Effect. By trying to stop the article she's drawn more attention to it. More people will read it now just to see what all the fuss was about than if she had just kept her trap shut.
But you know with her that was never an option.
Narcissistic sociopaths gonna narcissistic sociopath.
She's the latest version of Bobby Knight, with all the good and bad that entails
Yeah, it was a pretty standard profile. It's well written, it's worth the read, I can't imagine what she heard that got her so steamed up about it though. The maybe not being supportive of gay players things? Maybe she was just mad that the reporter had talked to estranged family? Wild reaction to a pretty middle of the road piece.
The same writer did a similar piece on Brian Kelly which Mulkey considered a "hit piece" so she was of that thinking based on that. I tend to agree with Alum07 below though that there are probably way more bones in the closet and expect that she now will have several writers take up that case.
see, what you gotta do is write a no-never-mind piece to make her rant sound baseless, then you do a follow up article with the real juicy details...
Her reaction leads me to believe she has some bigger skeletons in that closet she thought the WaPo found and preemptively reacted to that.
That makes sense.
IN MY OPINION OF COURSE- as to not offend the weak minded.... Mulkey is fucking trash. That is my opinion- to clarify.
Oh, so now you're going to put up an actual fact and call it an opinion? /s
Where is the hot take?
I expect more from you, dc
This made me literally laugh in the lobby of my office. Thank you.
3 of the 8 E$PN headlines are LSU women's basketball related. No $EC bias here, nothing to see. Didn't waste my time reading any of them.
nc state to F4
The floor in that game got laid down incorrectly in terms of the 3pt line distance. One end was correct but the other was farther away. If it impacted the game I am sure we will see Texas fans trying to call foul even though both coaches agreed to play on. Not sure who was shooting on the longer shot end in the second half where legs might have been a factor.
and now they are in F4 in both mens and womens
It's so impossible to win a national championship in anything that - Random NC State team- that was 11th in the ACC this year- is 2 wins away from one in a major sport. Impossible I tell ya.
Happy Monday to you as well!
Sure would be nice if the NCAA took women's sports seriously
This is really why I'm not that upset if the NCAA burns. They're main job is to host these games. This is where they make their money and they suck at it and always have.
Keep Portland weird?
Also- if you are going to move to two regional sites and apparently are hell bent on putting them literally on each extreme coast- how about major cities? That fans can afford to fly to and not shit outposts like Albany or expensive hellscapes like Portland? How about cities with major hubs and affordable flights at least?? Atlanta, Phoenix, Indy, Chicago, LA, etc? Why Spokane, Albany, etc? makes no sense.
Because money
Not following. Can they sell higher priced tickets in Albany vs. Washington DC or Atlanta? not following. Or are you saying games will sell out in Women's hotbed Albany? and not a major city?
He's saying bribes. Or if he's not saying bribes, I'm saying bribes.
Not so much bribes, but kickbacks and incentives that smaller cities might be more vulnerable to than larger cities
Men's side trying to catch up. NCAA responsible for scheduling tournament flights.
Is everyone inside the NCAA office too busy spiffing up their resume with the impending doom of the 80 team football league looming over the imminent demise of their position?
Okay, I am not sure we can actually blame the NCAA with mechanical failures on a plane. Isn't that all Boeing?
If it's Boeing I ain't going
What do you mean? They have some of the most stringent quality control systems in place to ensure your safety. /s
Its a fucking crime that the McDonnell-Douglas mindset of cutting costs at the expense of safety won out over Boeing's internal mindset after the 'merger'. MD went out of business because nobody trusted them and Boeing was king of the airline industry when that happened, and the need to maximize shareholder dividends over making sure their planes were engineered safe to fly has completely destroyed that once great company.
Whatever you do don't look up the Boeing CEO's alma mater...
Curious what happens with all the Boeing presence on campus now that he is gone
With all the money he saved them he can't cut some NIL money to the basketball team. Flying high in Boeing Skies!!
Instead he is putting money into drone soccer...
at least when those drones have parts fly off it doesn't end in hurt or dead people
Man Tennessee fire their coach on April 1st the one day you never want to get that email two sweet sixteen appearances, alumna and big winning record.
It just means more...unrealistic expectations
Beautiful
Down goes lsu. I love it
Okay, I wasn't able to watch it. Did the Princess get away with everything or was LSU allowed to muscle?
Surprisingly, officiating was decent. Mulkey just left HVL to cover CC one-on-one for 38 minutes and that went as well as you'd expect.
She left a midget to cover a giant? I am going to guess she is going to throw HVL under the bus and blame her for the loss. After all HVL is out of eligibility and can't do anything for her anymore except be a scapegoat.
Front page of WaPo.
Yeah it was pretty evenly called but Clark had her shot on from outside. Only a 5 free throw differential in the game. She hit more threes on less shots than the entire LSU team.
LSU really has no excuses. They took 19 more shots than Iowa and won the rebounding battle by 18. They shot 40% in the paint which is where they typically dominate.
The charge call on Reese that fouled her out was a bad one, defender was shifting to her right and not set but overall I agree.
Also, that call didn't impact the game, Iowa all but had it won at that point.
Eh, if we are going to nit pick, Reese had a couple of hooks on offense that weren't called either. Game more came down to Iowa's efficiency and LSU failing to capitalize on turnovers and not changing strategy to cover Caitlyn
100%
I wouldn't say the officiating had a significant impact on the game for either team, not sure there's much anyone can do to cover Clark but Hailey Van Lith was definitely not up to the task.
I think the lowering the shoulder and force of contact really swung the call towards charge
Now that our own program is disarray I dont care so much that caitlin clark gets all the spotlight... I care that they have a home grown team that has played together and grown together. Maybe Iowa was the real college sports team all along
I'm going to enjoy knowing HVL, Reese, and Mulkey are on their flights back to Baton Rouge, never to see the trio again.
I don't have much an issue with either Van or Reese. It's Mulkey getting sent packing that I'm enjoying.
My issue with Reese is that she can't decide if she's the villain or the victim.
she's part of a whole segment of the population that looks at that choice and goes
Doesn't matter much - the WNBA will get it figured out now that Reese declared for the draft.
https://www.espn.com/wnba/story/_/id/39867171/lsu-star-angel-reese-offic...
Thank god. now she goes off into obscurity in a league nobody watches or cares about. The only time you will hear her name again is if she tries to smuggle drugs into russia
That's a bit of a surprise given that her NIL was valued at something like $1.8 million
LOL- in the "supply and demand" world of women's basketball, she totally demands a salary higher than anyone in the WNBA while still in college. LMFAO - the average salary in her "business" for the top professionals in America- supply and demand, simple economics, right? is 102K per year. fucking 1.8 million - LMFAO.
And most of the will continue and expand. Just gets supplemented by the WNBA salary.
If she has no value to LSU boosters, that money disappears.
She's prob making more than what's reported, and a lot isn't coming from LSU boosters... like: PlayStation, Raising Canes, McDonald's, Coach, Wingstop, Outback Steakhouse, and Amazon. That's her list. And those aren't going to disappear.
She's a unicorn then and its not about hoops. WNBA players don't make that much in endorsements. Most of this will temper when she is not on ESPN pushing people in the face in march. Nobody watches WNBA games, so no way these companies get ROI from this nonsense.
There were millions tuned in Monday night.
And, for some reason, methinks you aren't the demographic that those paying her are targeting.
Yes, correct- and my point that you missed is that she won't draw 1/100th of this playing for the DC Mystics on a random friday night. Where is the value for mcdonlds on a mystic game that doesn't even register a rating on TV?
I think you are missing the value of social media and how people can make millions on instagram posting every day content. College basketball was the catapult to her following, but the following isnt going away. She will still get millions of views for sponsored posts.
She has become a national celebrity, and if the Kardashians have taught us anything.... Fame sells.
Her draft anmouncement is literally broken by vogue magazine....
https://www.vogue.com/article/angel-reese-is-taking-her-talents-to-the-wnba
Again, it's not about her being on tv in a uniform, it's about her as a person and influencer. She's still a draw for Coach even when not playing in front of millions. You aren't the demographic they are targeting. And tv isn't the main media source they are pushing their advertising on.
My point about the TV rating is a LOT of people tuned in because she and CC were playing. More than for every NBA game last year. The eyeballs are shifting. TV contracts are shifting. Viewing habits are shifting. But there was enough cache with her and CC to draw a 12million share.
As for the McD's value, billboards, signage around the arena, signs in the restaurants. Plenty of NBA guys not pulling huge ratings are splashed all over in advertisements. If they believe she, as herself, brings value, they will pay her. They aren't trying to draw you to Wing Stop of Amazon, but plenty of others that may view her as someone they would follow.
This is a different argument, and I don't disagree
You mean e$pn and the other networks set this up? By only talking and pushing CC and Reese for over a year straight and not headlining anyone else it left viewers/sportsfans no choice but to tune in to see what all the hype is about. What financial and economic impact do you think that had???
It's trash, the networks are trash, the teams and players they are marketing are trash. Sure CC is a sharpshooter, no doubt about that. Her post game is trash and she got the princess treatment from the refs all season. Like DC, I can't wait until both if them are buried in obscurity in the wnba or whatever. Then we'll have to suffer through the next revelation of network chosen princesses. 🤮
Yes, and...
I think time will tell on how many endorsements end after the College career. I am actually with DC on this in that I think the majority will evaporate.
I actually think Reese will continue to have a decent NIL as she and Flaujae Johnson get a lot of following for fashion, music and other activities outside of basketball. Clark is one that I think sees her numbers fall off as basketball is basically all she is followed for. Olympics/Big3/WNBA might mitigate some of that but not as much as the others.
if you read up on HVL and Reese, you'll see they are of the same mold as Mulkey.
Watch the postgame press conference. There is no way you can say the 3 are the same.
Reese went through a lot this year but still provided love and care for all her teammates. HVL was mostly just present, but at least she showed some empathy to her teammates. Mulkey is a terrible individual with no empathy and doesn't care about the mental or physical health of her players. And her team suffered this year because of it.
Hailey Van Lith in the portal again.
That would be 'No, hell no'.
She isn't out of eligibility yet???
LSU used her as a scapegoat and now is done with her. Despite asking her to play a different positions this year.
Don't say the e-word, or you'll summon DC
I thought you had to look into a mirror and say the e-word three times?
Wait is it entitlement or eligibility
Efficient Or Effective
I don't know how I would feel.
She's good, she's got an attitude, but it gets eyeballs. Yeah she's got baggage, but it would only be for a year.
I'm sure Kenny is already making phone calls.
I agree. He would put her in the role King played here for so long. Get her back to straight up shooting the ball.
I would expect everyone to be making a call... But we could use her... We just lost our star G, and she could immediately step into a starting and leadership role under Duffy. IF there's a fit...
Man, how would you like to be a Loserville fan and have HVL go to Kan-tuk-ee? It would almost be as bad Georgia transferring to LOLuva or UNCheat.
And still is it appears despite reports she had committed to TCU. Waited over a week to come out and say she isn't committed to the Horn Frogs.
Guess $he got a better offer after $he committed
Valuable commodity, she has 3 years eligibility left.
really terrible 3rd quarter for nc state
Officials handed the game to Iowa repeatedly 18 fouls to 9. 4 free throws to 14 and repeatedly took the ball away from UCONN in key moments. Down by one with less than ten seconds, UCONN advanced the ball and was taking it to the basket to score when the officials called a moving screen that JUST WASN'T there.
That moving screen call was brutal. UConn had all the momentum there. Ref needs to swallow the whistle in that situation.
That was a pretty blatant moving screen. There were plenty of other phantom calls that helped iowa, though. Bad calls all around for a lot od rhe game
this angle shows it looking like an OL in pass blocking form:
https://twitter.com/shu_b0x/status/1776458023516491968?t=lTSOb_lh0LmatIwdzIAb6g
This is where I don't understand the women's game. Technically that was a moving screen. But in the spirit of allowing the girls to practice for their rugby events under the facade of playing a basketball game, I have so many questions as to why that was called in that moment.
It seems clear to me that with all the hype around the women's game right now the powers that be simply couldn't afford a final game without Caitlin Clark.
I agree that the womens reffing is wildly inconsistent and borders on brawling at some points. However, on the scale of moving screens with 0 being a legal screen, 10 being a football blindside block, 3 being 99% of screens with some motion but more in an "I am inconveniently in your way as you try to go past", this was probably a 7
Yeah this one was a foul but it wasn't the 10 or 12 other times on both sides during this game. Really wish officials were graded, held accountable and required to do additional training if not meeting whatever standard the NCAA sets (NCAA and standards in same sentence pretty much kills it) but no league or the NCAA has publicly done anything to improve their officials and it continues to be an embarrassing news story year on year. It's hard to know game to game what rules to expect calls on. I get they are human but when they consistently show they are inconsistent then you would expect the people paying them would want to see improvement.
All you have to do is go back and review the stats from any Iowa game that is/was perceived as being a tough or close contest and that will tell all you need to know. Almost every game that could or was close, the amount of fouls called against the opposing team was very disproportionate to the ones called against Iowa. Also the amount of free throws awarded to Iowa versus the opponent was always (except in one case i seen) lopsided.
In games where you would expect Iowa to win handily, the fouls and free throw ratio is virtually even in those contests.
I did not look at every single game but I looked at enough to see that there was ref bias and/or favoritism
One has made a lot of money betting on Iowa to win their games since early March. I saw the narrative and knew they'd make the Final.
Just not betting the Final because you are taking a 50/50 chance that the game is rigged or not. You'd like to think they would let them play this game out as it's for a Championship, but honestly, I can't be that sure they will. But every game leading through the conference tournament and NCAA tournament I knew they would spin it in favor of Iowa.
Yea, I don't think there will be much in terms of spinning it to Iowa for the the championship. South Carolina is legit too good.
Tennessee hires Kim Caldwell from Marshall
https://www.reddit.com/r/NCAAW/s/TLfSPCH1HO
Interesting comment from a Marshall fan: "Glad she's going directly to an elite program instead of somewhere like UK."
Sounds like a dig at VT.
They're okay with losing their coach to an elite program but saying we lost ours to not an elite program.
Whatever, they just sour because we blew their doors off in the first round
More a dig at UK.
Wishful thinking, I'm afraid, as UK just got a big boost.
Their fan base is in meltdown. They are pissed their AD couldn't poach a P5 coach.
This I believe 1000%. Their fan base is irrational. I think we got the better hire.
South Carolina takes it.
Bye Caitlin! I guess you'll be leaving without that championship ring, after all. (Though honestly, I was pulling for you.)
Caitlin Clark is nothing but a female James Harden.
I liked the last few minutes where she was just chucking up desperation shots and missing everything
It was a little painful to watch in the last 3 minutes. She was almost stealing the ball from her teammates and throwing up halfcourt shots every chance she got.
Gotta hand it to her though, she still had a pretty good game: 7 solo tackles and 2 pass breakups
This made me laugh.
Cameron Brink wins the Lisa Leslie award which closes Liz Kitleys last chance at a national award for retiring her jersey according to current policy.
I am pretty sure that I read somewhere (it may have been Andy Bitter on Twitter/X) that someone in the athletic department basically confirmed she was getting her jersey retired.
Stanford joining the conference with a new coach. This will be interesting.
It's expected it will be Kate Paye, who is their associate head coach. She has been at Stanford as a coach since 2007. She also won a national championship there as a player in the early 90s.
One interesting thing. Her position as associate head coach was a named position, something I had never seen before. It is the The Harry K. and Ida S. Berland Associate Head Women's Basketball Coach. Curious if the Berlands were paying her salary.
You mean you've never heard of Chris Bickell '97 Head Football Coach Pat Narduzzi? OR you have never heard of that for an assistant coach?
Stanford has a lot of their coaches and assistants as named endowed positions.
Lindsey Hicks to UK