BREAKING: #Hokies sophomore guard Jaydon Young plans to enter the transfer portal.📸- Jon Fleming pic.twitter.com/Lmtb1FprSV— Tech Sideline (@TechSideline) March 17, 2025
I was hoping to be able to hold on to Young. Seemed to show some promise.
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Damn, I hope he stays but the track record doesn't look good.
He's leaving and will be in the dance next year with his new team.
0-11 3pts vs. Cal. I think we'll find a way to replace his production.
Its almost like when you defund a program it causes cascading issues like players calling the team ass in interviews and everyone leaving as soon as they possibly can.
in 2024-2025 when you "defund" a program, you fucking lose a lot of games, players, donations, and general interest in the program. It's a brilliant strategy really.
Well. That's what happens with promising ones. They get gobbled up by bigger fish. IIWII
We could be a bigger fish. We choose not to be. Which really helps with fundraising needed to be said big fish.
We briefly flirted with being a big fish while Buzz was head whistle. Not sure why we gave up on that.
You'd think that a silver lining to being locked into the ACC suicide pact would be that we might take hoops seriously. Guess not?
On a serious note.. I have no clue why Whit Babcocks charter is apparently spend as little money as possible on everything. It's certainly not "win at sports". He is literally a CFO first, sports boss second. Mind boggling.
Oddly enough, not all that different from his predecessor
I can think of a variety of possible factors:
I just don't have great insight into how our athletic depart runs. I see the published data, and I know that VT isn't pulling in enough cash to fund a modern top 25 athletic department (we're top 35-40). I don't know what Whit could be doing better from a fundraising standpoint.
I don't think Whit is incompetent. I don't think he's perfect by any stretch.
I also think the athletic department kicks back a significant chunk of money each year to the academic side, sort of budgeted in as an annual operating expense. Which seems really strange to me considering the Football Enhancement Fund gave more money from the academic side to the AD. Just passing money back and forth across funds. If the University is intent on taking a cut off of athletics instead of treating athletics funding as a marketing budget, then I can understand why VT is institutionally frugal with athletics spending. The priority isn't to win, it's to run in the black.
I have not heard this before, nor have I seen any data suggesting that the AD sends funding back to the university.
I have heard (from... at best mildly reliable #sauces) that the academic side of campus gets 'first pass' at asking for donations, and that it's frowned upon if athletics target a new donor (especially bigger ones) before academics takes a crack. Maybe guitarman can let us know if there's any truth to this.
If this is true, I don't see an issue. As much as we all love Hokie sports, Virginia Tech is an academic institution and that should always come first.
I tried to look at the FY 24-25 VT budget to see if this was true or not, and unfortunately they don't provide any detailed line item budgets for their auxiliary enterprises (like athletics). Only total revenues and expenditures. However, for this year's overall athletics budget, there was a planned surplus of $4.6MM to roll back into the University's reserve fund.
In the distant past the athletic department would help fund the academic side but the last time I know if a donation was for the library in 1981, so times have changed.
As someone who didn't pay attention to basketball almost at all for the first time in 10 or so years, I'm going to resist the urge to respond to every one of these posts with "who?"
Lawal was right, this team was ass. Cut the fat, keep the good stuff and reload.
Young blows, we can do better with the money we was giving him.
by end of year jayden was starting to look pretty solid
"Young blows" is so over generalized and oversimplified. He showed flashes, as another TKP teammate said below. And guys that show flashes develop into good, solid players.
Should we all expect great players instantly? Sorry, that perspective is ridiculous. All of us expect our younger work teammates to develop over time, and we give them guidance and space for that to happen. Until it's our alma mater's basketball team.
Please, let's stop!
NIL is destroying normal growth dynamics, it's Friggin stupid.
Cool. Flashes don't get wins (god, I'm turning into DC).
In today's college basketball, flashes out of someone who played two full years of college basketball isn't worth what we were paying him (especially on a team that played, like Lawal said, like ass).
Buzz's second year we went 20-15 with a ragtag group of castoffs and freshmen. That roster had "flashes" coupled with actually playing respectable basketball. No reason why CMY can't do that with the increase in NIL money next season.
We need to cut the fat. Sorry, Young isn't good enough to carry over to next year. He'll find another school that'll give him a full scholarship + COA + additional money. We can allocate the roster spot and "cap space" to somone better.
In my mind, "Young blows" and, "Young isn't good enough to carry over to next year" are two different things. One of which is welcomed and appreciated on TKP and one should not be. But that's just my two cents.
Everything is relative and has context. If we are clinging to actually being a competitive ACC program, than yes we can do better than Jaydon Young. If we are content to be 9, 10, 11th in the league and wait for Young to blossom as a 5th year senior, well yay hokies and enjoy the NIT. Its all relative. Could Young play here, be on the top 8-9 guys on the roster? sure eventually. But is that what the goal is? 10th in the ACC? Just watch how quickly our friends up I81 rebuild their hoops program and finish in the top 4 of the ACC. All about context/expectations.
I disagree. Flashes do get wins. During the middle period of the season where we were getting wins, it was through different players putting together flashes at different times and CMY riding the hot flash. Jayden flashed to over 20 points in some critical games that got us close wins.
We were 0-6 against the Q1 and 4-10 against Q2. Our best win was 90th net ranked Florida State. 7 of our wins came against teams ranked 225 or worse in the net. We were a horrid team this season. Horrid. If the ACC was "the acc" this team would have had 3 conference wins at best - only if Miami was historically bad like they were this year. In any normal ACC season, UVA and Cuse are not likely to be plus 100 net teams for example. This team was terrible. Every player can be upgraded from in the portal- including lawal.
I didnt say a lot of wins, just that the upaide of a flash does get wins... the time you arent fladhing we get boat raced by everyone.
For a moment, I thought you were talking about the coach. Then I realized what thread I was reading. =^/
This right here.
He was a guy who showed flashes...definitely could have developed with a couple more years.
But that's not what the current system is designed to do.
The system is designed to pluck players from non-P2 teams to be depth pieces at middling P2 programs.
Young will be in South Carolina, Penn State, or Rutgers jersey next year and VT will be left scouring far-flung conferences to try to piece together a roster.
This is what unregulated NIL and unregulated transfers were always designed to do. You don't go from "Basketball is an afterthought" as a Conference to 14 MM bids by accident.
At this point should we just do away with basketball altogether and just make Cassell a wrestling shrine? We're a wrestling school now after all
If CMY really did force Young out, then he'll just be the latest guy who leaves the team only to find success in another D1 program. Jaydon averaged 16 ppg over the final six games, against some good teams no less (Clemson, Louisville, UNC). You could tell it was really starting to come together for him.
CMY doesn't "force" anyone out. This is CMY we are talking about here, not Bob Knight. Now, CMY is an honest dude of course and perhaps Young asked about his role for next year and Young was blunt with him. The only players CMY is forcing out are lazy or discipline issues.
Yeah I don't think this was a force out, I think Jaydon is testing the market. As you said, he was the teams most consistent scorer at the end of the season. He had two bad games from 3pt% but I fully expect to see Young in a SEC/BIG10 uni next season or one of the one offs like UConn or other "blue blood" basketball teams.
The SEC is clearly fishing in deeper waters than Jaydon Young at the moment. I think MJ collins- who is better than young- is their floor ATM.
MJ is at Vandy, not aTm
I think he meant "At This Moment."
correct
Sometimes my dumbass sense of humor just doesn't come through the computer screen
FWIW I got it on my first reading
I read it as the Automated Teller Machine.
Don't you mean Automated Teller Machine Machine?
probably.
You have a cleaner mind than me my freind.
IYKYK
Exactly where I went, I just didn't have a good meme or gif
FARVA'S NUMBER ONE!!!!!!!
This was my point above. Well and concisely stated.