Hello. Welcome back to "Foe"Rensics, where we dive inside the heads of our opponents every week to understand what makes their football program tick. This week we were planning on doing a hat themed preview since North Carolinians are very fond of hats but you run out of jokes after "fedora" and "bowler", turns out. So, without further ado, let's all take a trip to Chapel Hill and get to your questions!
1. Sooo...I missed the game last week. Can you give me a brief recap?
A. I'd like to let Kyle Fuller handle this one (with thanks to BillDozerVT for the GIF)
Essentially, our defense was so astronomically, diabolically, convincingly, overwhelmingly dominant of Paul Johnson's offense that even the refs were giving us props. As close as the score was and as stressful as that game was to watch (as any game against Georgia Tech is), in retrospect it really wasn't that close. A few lucky completions against some suspect downfield coverage and inopportune penalties (not to mention a missed field goal) made that game feel closer than it was. Now let's relive that dominant feeling EVERY week. Please.
2. Alright! So, primary Coastal Division threat...nullified. Who's next?
A. The fearsome Tar Heels of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill.
3. Goodness, that's a mouthful.
A. Yeah. To be honest, I made up the 'fearsome' part. UNC Chapel Hill (or just UNC, because they're kind of arrogant; they make everyone else add the city after the UNC part) was originally founded by Thomas Jefferson's ne'er-do-well little brother, Bubba1. Bubba got pissed when he received no credit for what he perceived as a critical contribution to the Declaration of Independence, changing Thomas' original "This shit is totally obvious" to "We hold these truths to be self evident". Following that slight, he proceeded to pass sensitive information about George Washington's army to the British, ultimately being found out and was then imprisoned near the family home of Monticello2. He later escaped and traveled to North Carolina, living out the rest of his life under the assumed name of "Jubba Befferson". Further demonstrating his lack of creativity, he decided to found a University in 1795 to rival his brother's, and thus a rivalry was born.
4. Lord, that freaking family. So we're playing them in football, right? They have a team then?
A. Yes, they do. They are known as the Tar Heels, originally a term used to make fun of the fact that at one point, basically everyone in North Carolina not involved in the barbecue industry worked for "Big Tar". Since North Carolinians didn't get the joke, they took it as a compliment and adopted it as their nickname. Because tar comes from trees, their mascot is a ram3. Since rams have horns, his name is Rameses because PUN and they love getting owned by Charlton Heston.
North Carolina has been playing football for a long time, since 1888. However, if you go to their Wikipedia page, it briefly mentions that they are the credited (accidental) innovators of the forward pass (which is kind of a big effing deal) and then goes straight to Recent History, by which I mean their current coach, Larry Fedora. Who has been there for a YEAR. They spend more time talking about their NCAA investigations of the last couple years than INVENTING THE FREAKING FORWARD PASS (accidentally). Now I know this is Wikipedia, but it seems like UNC fans feel about their football history the same way UVA fans feel about their current team.
5. That's some apathy right there.
A. Indeed. Speaking of which, as Jubba intended, UNC is without a doubt the UVA of North Carolina. NC State is the blue collar team and Duke, as a private school, excudes an unmatched level of douchiness that UVA and UNC can only aspire to. But UNC persists, dabbling in tie wearing at football games, identifying itself as a Public Ivy and proudly listing all of the alumni that have gone on to serve in government office, as if that is an occupation that reflectively covers an alma mater in glory4.
Perhaps their proudest achievement is alum James K Polk, who went on to serve as President of the United States of America. Oh, what's that? You don't respect their Presidential alumni credentials? Well, let me let Rameses fill you in on James K Polk as relative to, I dunno, other presidents that people say are 'great', like Abraham Lincoln (who pfff, didn't even GO to college, let alone a PUBLIC IVY).

I don't know why he's yelling at her, Taylor Swift looks NOTHING like Abraham Lincoln
RAMESES: Yo Lincoln, I'm really happy for you, I'ma let you finish, but James K. Polk is one of the GREATEST PRESIDENTS OF ALL TIME. THE GREATEST PRESIDENT OF ALL TIME.
6. He seems angry.
A. Yeah. In UNC's defense, I DID find that they have contributed to the world in a positive manner. Voice actor and Archer creator Adam Reed matriculated there as well Ken Jeong and, most importantly, MTV SuperStar Dan Cortese.

Cortese, seen here NOT adhering to the UNC dress code
7. Man, I remember that guy!
A. Yes, he's currently sharing a house with Kennedy and Tabitha Soren, attempting to Kickstarter a new network that will employ them.
8. I'm not contributing to that.
A. Me neither. But back to football. UNC's head coach, as mentioned, is second year man Larry Fedora. UNC was a respectable 8-4 last year (with a tail-hammer-pounding of the Hokies thrown in) and was basically a pick 'em for second place in the Coastal (edged out barely by VT). But they've proceeded to implode thus far, getting hammered by South Carolina in Week 1, losing not-gracefully to Georgia Tech two weeks ago and getting blown out by East Carolina 55-31 last week.
9. Wait, I'm sorry, I must've read that wrong. Did you say East Carolina?
A. Aye, me matey. The same Pirates that we held to 10 points and put the fear of Bud into their quarterback. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying this is going to be a cake walk. UNC runs a similar spread offense (wow, way to be unique and different) that we faced against ECU and Marshall although with (allegedly) a much better quarterback, Bryn Renner. Personally, I'd put him neck and neck with Rakeem Cato, but I'd also contend that Renner should have much better weapons around him. His receivers seem to fit the bill, but I think the biggest difference you'll see from the UNC that mauled us last year is the distinct lack of Giovanni Bernard, who's currently doing NFL things in the NFL instead of against us. A.J. Blue is their main guy at RB and he has...not impressed, let's just say that.
10. Good, let's focus on their players. Any other notes on their roster?
A. To start with, they have not one but TWO players named for a guy you JUST might remember from a brief but memorable acting career in the mid-90s.

Not talking about Nick Nolte, folks
Yes, both Shaquille Price AND Shakeel Rashad (bonus points for unique spelling!) will suit up in the baby blue and argyle5. But perhaps the most dastardly thing we can expect from UNC is their recent recruiting focus on guys with a *.J. name. They've got the aforementioned A.J., an R.J., a J.J., and not one, not two, but THREE T.J.s (Thorpe, Logan, and Jiles). The good news is these guys are NOT brothers and they have no combined Fuller-like effect, just a lot of confusion due to similar names.
11. Please tell me one of those guys is nicknamed "Shaq-Diesel".
A. Yes, R.J. Prince is.
12. Speaking of the Fuller's, what's their Fuller status?
A. Good news, there are NO Fullers on the UNC roster. They do attempt to counter the Fuller effect with freshman twins Jordan and Justin Fieulleteau, but it is severely reduced due to the Francophone nature of their last names6.
13. Man, I bet they like French Toast and French Fries. Losers.
A. Please. Freedom Fries.
14. Sorry. Any important rivalries we should know about?
A. Yes. Speaking of the French, as mentioned above, there is a long-standing rivalry with UVA, going back to Jubba and Thomas' day. They've played football since 1892, known as the South's Oldest Rivalry proving that just because you've been doing something for a long time, that doesn't mean you're good at it. This is also known as the Battle of the Bow Tie. The highlight of this rivalry is the story of Ronald Curry, who signed with UVA, later decommitted and went to UNC. Turns out UVA fans7 got bitter about this, referring to him as "Benedict Ronald" and, no lie, I personally witnessed them burn him in effigy while visting the old prison grounds in 1998. The best part of the story is that Curry wasn't even the best QB coming out of Virginia that year; you may remember a guy named Michael Vick who went on to lose one and a half games his entire college career and playing for a national title.
15. So UVA and UNC got all salty with each other over a runner up?
A. Yes, it kind of suits them. Also, in amusing news, Auburn-Georgia (known as the DEEP South's Oldest Rivalry) was first played DAYS before UVA-UNC first played each other, so it's not even technically the South's "Oldest" Rivalry, but just throw them a bone, they really don't have much else to hang their hats on.
16. Anyone else?
A. Yes, UNC has an institutional rivalry with Duke, but primarily in basketball. The "Victory Bell" game against Duke in football is not a real rivalry, because Duke only recently converted their football team from intramural to NCAA.
They also have a rivalry with NC State which has been dominated by the Wolfpack in recent years (winning five of the last six). The rivalry is known more for it's basketball and baseball matchups (yes, baseball) which makes it hard for me to take seriously.
17. So, what if I get hungry in Chapel Hill?
A. Good news, "Foe"Rensics has BOOTS ON THE GROUND in the Research Triangle in the form of relatives! But, to continue the complete uselessness of this feature, the game is in Blacksburg and these recommendations will benefit you not at all for Saturday.
According to our sources, the best place to grab a bite these days in Chapel Hill is The Lantern8. The Lantern combines North Carolina sourced food with an Asian flair and is apparently pretty good. In fact, let's see what the good folks at Yelp had to say in their User Reviews:
"Have you ever felt disappointed by a Vietnamese soup that looked and tasted like the water you used to wash the seafood? I did, BUT NOT THIS TIME!"
Wow, I'm pretty excited for their seafood washing water now! I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW YOU COULD GET THAT AT A RESTAURANT! Hopefully this is joined on the menu by apple cores and avocado skins.
18. Wow, that is truly a unique take on Asian food. What about barbecue?
A. It is comforting to venture back into North Carolina for a third time in this column in search of barbecue. As you would expect, choices abound in the area, but on a personal recommendation, I'm electing to go with The Pit in nearby Raleigh. According to Google Reviewer Darren Brown:
"I don't care what other wrote. If you love good (if not great) BBQ. This is a place you MUST visit once. Great FOOD!. Great BEER! Great Time!"
So, since Darren says you're only allowed to visit once, make it count and get the good (if not great) chopped pork and vinegar sauce9.
19. Now I'm hungry. Let's get back to football. LOGAN THOMAS COUNTDOWN TO FIVE INTERCEPTIONS:
A. If you'll recall, we've recently moved to a calculated value of Fuller Adjusted Interceptions, or FAINTs. Due to Kendall's victory sealing pick, the Fullers have a combined three interceptions to Logan's six thrown, leaving him with THREE FAINTs. This leaves him 7 (or 8, or 9) games to throw two additional picks.
20. Any other notes of interest for this week?
Something we are going to now expand into it's own feature this week at "Foe"Rensics is our defensive line's RAGE MATCH against itself. As you may recall, two weeks ago Mr. J.R. Collins took home the prize against Marshall and last week Derrick "MANBEARPIG" Hopkins was the clear winner. Isn't it about time James Gayle brought his "A" RAGE MATCH Game?
21. Goodness, I just got a little giddy thinking about that. Final thoughts...what should we watch for in the game?
A. Aside from minding the khaki and tie wearing hooligans that frequent the stadium:
- If Kyle and Kendall attempt to simultaneous tackle someone and accidentally rip him in half
- ANTONE EXUM DAY CARE BACK
- If we still have any running backs on our roster or if it's truly time to officially turn the ground game over to A.J. Hughes and Hunter Windmuller
- Through five games, we've allowed 20 points after halftime this season. I'm hoping Bud finds a way to reduce that number this week (not the PER GAME number, the TOTAL).
- If we can remain truly dominant defensively, they may let us play ALL of the rest of our games at noon!
That's all for North Carolina, next week we'll venture north for the first time this season, tackling the Panthers of Pittsburgh.
1Just kidding, Thomas is the clear black sheep of the Jefferson family. Even being president doesn't make up for founding UVA.
2This prison would eventually become Charlottesville.
3Wut?
4Full confession, I may or may not be extra-bitter about that right now. Good news is I've had two days off to finish "Foe"Rensics!
5I told you they were fearsome.
6Names that end in 'eau' are only intimidating on LSU's roster.
7Both of them.
8The panel would have also accepted Mama Dips here.
9Reminder: #TEAMVINEGARSAUCE




Comments
I literally wait for these every week.
These are always great and funny reads

I saw this in diffeq and gave a small fist pump...got some strange looks haha
At least you were awake in diffeq. Better than I ever did.
I was awake in diffy. Doesn't mean I learned anything though.
Prof. Hart anybody? That man was brilliant. I'll never forget his great teaching and his daily rants against the Empo
can't possibly compare to the eccentric genius of Carl Prather...
or his poodle
Thanks for another hilarious write-up. I've been sitting here refreshing incessantly hoping for this to come up. Now, I have going to the game to look forward to the next couple of days.
I got so happy that this was up!

I always find these hilarious, but the joke at your own writing took this one over the top. Most excellent work, good sir.
Also, if the government decides to screw you over for any extended length of time, I see a satire-writing career in your future.
I always look forward to these, well done once again. I think the line that got me most was
"They've played football since 1892, known as the South's Oldest Rivalry proving that just because you've been doing something for a long time, that doesn't mean you're good at it."
I had to pull the 'ol 'stifle laughter in cube' on that one. Well played, sir.
First time reading the "Foe"rensics. Too good.
I want to down vote for this, but given that you have missed reading this the other 4 times I feel you have been punished enough.
First week back in the states. Was traveling around Europe... couldn't even watch Hokie football except for Bama. It was rough, so to speak
I rescind my above comment then. You sir need a cold beer and the last 3 games queued up on Youtube. Welcome back state side where the only French you have to worry about are in Charlottesville.
Wow, uncanny you say that. My Facebook status when I was in Paris: "I see a bunch of people wearing scarves over their neck, matching with what they think are stylish clothes, holstering baguettes over their shoulders like rifles, drinking wine and eating "real cheese"... no Im not in Charlottesville, Im in Paris."
I have missed two games this season already (ECU & Marshall). Now I just realized I am missing my third this weekend due to a baby shower. Damn it...I hate having to do adult things on my game days!!!!
And it is SOOO hard for me not to look at the stats on my ESPN app. Never have been able to watch
a game after I knew the outcome either.
Clearly you need to bring Hokie football to these people. Either turn on a TV or shamelessly watch it on a smartphone with watchESPN.
I will shamelessly be somewhat watching on the ESPN app on my iphone. I honestly don't
even know the girl the baby shower is for. My boss's son knocked up his GF. Oops!!!
So I'm just there for her really. You don't say No to the boss. And the excuse
"I can't go bc my team has a game" doesn't go over too well.
It would if he/she was a Hokie. Then they would be a little jealous that you got to go while they were stuck because of family.
I unfortunately will be missing the game this weekend BUT that's what the DVR is for. As difficult as it may be, I am going to refrain from checking Facebook, Twitter, and TKP after noon until I can watch the game that evening.
I'm with you. And when I'm watching a game that isn't live I can't get as invested in it as I would if it were live.
Regardless, I will be doing my good luck shots to start the game even watching it after it's been played. Can't mess with luck. Maybe I'll do them right before game time too just to be safe...
THIS! So hard to avoid hearing anything about the game! My wife did NOT understand me screaming at the TV while watching a game I had recorded hours earlier. Because it makes MUCH more sense when I scream at the TV when the game is live (hundreds of miles away).
Well, having to go to work for 2nd half of Marshall game, I'm glad I had the benefit of fast forward. I might not have survived the TV timeouts & 3OT watching live. Granted, having struggled through the first half live, I was pretty sure we'd lost before the wife (who'd already seen it) suggested I'd be happy with the result and I should finish the game.
...and that is why I sometimes don't mind having to DVR, there's enough suspense/disappointment the last couple years without having to watch the same commercial 12 times during the game.
What's up with people conceiving babies when they know it could interrupt football season?!
I say that we make December through March 'Birth-Control Mandatory' months to avoid these situations.
And NO weddings from late August through 1st week of January, either.
People, come on!
Hey, it's you!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGVo4n1iB5M
Holy crap I lost it on footnote 7. Im glad no one was around to see me lose it while Im "working"
Agreed. +1 for footnote 7
the footnotes are gems. This column each and every week has to be some of the best writing anywhere re: college football.
The exquisite irony here is that it is featured on a site that honors the Lunchpail D, and that this week's victims (UNC and a healthy dose of UVA) are (allegedly) perfectly groomed to grasp the satire sent their way by nature of their "ivy" pedigrees, but their ultimate demise in failing to do so is ensured by their douchy arrogance.
I love Foe-Rensics!
Freshmen Fellatio twins? Awwww right...
Wait - they're dude twins? Pass.
Ctrl+F "argyle"
Yep, this post is legit.
Today is my birthday and this article is a great gift! Too funny. Please keep up the good work. I look forward to reading them every week!
You sir are hysterical. Keep it up
Genius as usual. #Alloftheturkeylegs
As I read James Gayle "Rage Match" bit, the lights dimmed and I felt a chill run up my spine.
(sigh)....#TEAMTOMATOBASED
I can't downvote you for tomato based, but I CAN shake my head slowly at you.
If this is the shame I bring upon Hokie Nation by being raised by people from Chicago, so be it.
I figured. Can't help who raised you. Some people are born into UVA families, they basically have no shot at a happy life.
Not that tomato based is ANYWHERE near as bad as that. Wasn't trying to offend you, sir.
Having tried BBQ from Georgia to Olympia, Washington (Ranch House might be the best I've ever had) and everywhere in between, I can definitely say I fall into the tomato based camp.
It's okay, I was a military brat, so I have fairly eclectic tastes. #ANYTHINGBUTMUSTARDBASED
This one MILLION times. My boss went to the citadel and swears by that mustard sauce for which I give him unending shit.
Bubba Jefferson's contribution to the Declaration is one of the funniest lines I've read since Dave Barry. Had to read it to my non football fan coworkers and we were all in stitches. Brutal stuff.
I love this series man, great work each week.
Sidenote: Anybody hear any news on the uniforms we'll be wearing this week? Any new helmets or weird jerseys this time around?
Nice job, but I think you misapplied the FAINTs principle. Per Bud Fosters Defensive Handbook of Official Acronyms, FAINTs is currently defined as Fuller/Facyson Adjusted Interceptions. So the adjusted calculation is 7 (the Fullers/Facyson have a combined seven interceptions) minus 6 (Logan's six thrown) which equals 1, leaving him with ONE FAINTs. This leaves him 7 (or 8, or 9) games to throw five additional picks.
However, if you consider the FOSTER P (Fulles/Facyson Orchestrate Secondary Trickery Ensuring Reversal of Possession) defensive principle (see page 76 of the Handbook) which based on current calculations (trust me here - I had to go back to freshman calculus in John McLaren McBryde Hall) will result in Logan having a FAINTS of -4 or -5 (depending on whether we play 12 or 14 games - you do the math for 13 games). So applying both the FAINTS and the FOSTER P defensive principle Login will end up with no interceptions for the year.
I'd say that's a pretty good senior year.
This might be the all time winning first post of all time. Welcome and congratulations!
FOSTER P has to be the winningest acronym I have ever seen. Well done.
Haha, FOSTER P is brilliant. I WAS thinking about including Facyson in the FAINTs originally, but figured I'd save it until/unless Logan desperately needed the extra help. Nonetheless, excellent contribution, thank you and welcome.
Thanks guys. Been a lurker for a while, but TFF's stuff inspired me to reply. TFF sorry about getting ahead of your use of Facyson. Of course if he is used a lot at receiver we may have to rethink the FAINTs and FOSTER P defensive principles anyway to account for the change!
Love it. I'm going to call attention to this little part here for when you do the write-up for Maryland:
... because the Terps do the exact same thing. What makes it worse is that, unlike UNC-Chapel Hill, the Maryland-College Park campus was NOT founded first (that would be the Baltimore one).
But then we'd be getting into too many facts for a respectable feature such as this one. :)
You, Sir, are a

Absolutely hilarious every time.
Typical UNC fan:
I must say, I am impressed by the depth and breadth of comments ya'll post on these. From WV drug abuse epidemics to gingers to barbecue arguments, you are truly worldly people.
And further proof here that UNC is the UVA of their state...someone coming into a football discussion to talk smack about basketball.
DAMN, I was coming back to caveat my reply in case you were trolling Heel fans. Well played, sir, well played.
James K Polk was an awful president. I believe he actually argued for secession from the Union...
James K. Polk didn't run for a second term, and when asked why he responded with "Because I have achieved everything I set out to do" or something along those lines.
It's been a while since AP US History....like my teacher was a UF alum and she wouldn't stop gushing over Tim Tebow
Polk was the only president to accomplish his platform. Granted, it was only 4 planks to knock out. But, he did do what he set out to do.
Yep - in fact you could count Polk as one of the most effective presidents ever. Added four states to the union and fixed the northern border with Canada and the southern border with Mexico. He was such a boss that he even gave Mexico back despite having won it fair and square.
Forget to mention UNC has a shit ton of chicks...
As a Hokie currently living in Chapel Hill, I'm loving this. Especially
Oh, and Lantern is WAY overrated.
I take it you haven't tried the Vietnamese seafood washing water soup. It is unparalleled.