Ok guys, the earlier thread made me do something I've never done. I went ahead and joined twitter.
So, now we have the kindling for a massive fire I want us at TKP to lead. Thing is, I don't know where to go from here.
I've built the twitter @HokieBlackUni. No tweets or anything yet, but maybe someone else here and I can join forces. Maybe build a Facebook page. My hopes are that if we get enough people behind this, it will solve two things we are worried about:
#1, looking sharp for the 11th win in a row and hopefully #2 getting a campaign going that will involve students, alumni, and fans alike to make the trip, and bring he darkest of Black Fridays to UVA...
So without further ado (I hope this takes off)....
#BlackUni4BlackFriday (thanks Guitar for that one I think)
As a disclaimer, if this doesn't take off I will cry and hate myself. So. Help me out? :)
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You should tweet nothing but facts regarding VT's dominance over UVA, and the benefits and awesomeness of black uniforms. Glad you like the hashtag. Heck, even I may join Twitter to help in the campaign!
Fantastic idea. Once I figure out how to tweet (and not follow Grimes anymore, whoops) I will shoot mr out.
The cogs are turning now!
I gave ya a follow sir
Count me in... Now following.
Much thanks guys. I'm actually having a blast with this...AND JACK TYLER IS FOLLOWING US!!!!
I feel something special about to happen.
Following. This is gonna be fun.
Man, I saw this on the twittersphere before I even saw this. Nice!
Gave ya a follow.
I am sorry. I could not be more opposed to the Hokies ever wearing black uniforms. The school colors are Chicago Maroon and Orange. Wear them with pride.
#AllMaroonEverything
Yikes. Now I feel bad. Maybe we can get you to come to the dark side if the unis were Corps of Cadets related?
To me, that's the reason I loved the 2010 black unis. Those things looked like smoldering Hokie fire. The black, in my eyes, is just the frame that highlights the school colors.
I agree with French, but I would still go for all black 349602 times before all orange.
Get off my (streaking the) lawn
I never want to see the black uniforms again myself. Too much bad Boise State MoJo. Same reason the all orange should never be worn again...Duke MoJo.
They shoulda said that the first time UVA whipped our asses when we wore em.
I say do it!
Can we just get a campaign going for #ALLMAROONEVERYTHING against Miami for the Thursday night game and welcome them back to the Terror Dome?
I'd love to have a sister hashtag. #allMaroon4Miami
thats what @VTmaroonuni is for.. i think??
Same unis as 2003
All Maroon Everything, or Maroon jersey white pants, and a maroon helmet with an orange stripe and a white face mask. Nothing else is acceptable with me.
Ill call ya old fashioned lol I wanna see VT wear a chrome helmet like most schools do once a yr. How sick would it be with an orange facemask
I just envisioned it. I don't think it's for me...
A hydrochrome maroon helmet with white or orange matte logo would be sick.
That vision just made me sick. I'm all about the matte helmets with a VT logo of course, not the one worn during the RAB last year.
I'm following, I'd also like to say I'm willing to help manage the page if you'd allow me to jump aboard!
I'd be willing to help out too - twitter / facebook... just let me know!
the white face mask pretty cool and retro
i'm more of a fan of all maroon everything ... no orange. as little white as you can get away with . maroon jerseys with white numbers, front and back .. that's it. maroon pants, socks, cleats. maroon gloves. maroon helmet (matte), with a "shinier" maroon VT emblem -- just enough for some contrast. if a stripe, a single white stripe... maroon face mask, maroon war-paint, maroon rubber-band-on-your-bicep thingies if you just have to wear those worthless things ... #AllMaroonFuckinEryThing
...But orange is one of our colors. We're like the only school that does orange and maroon. If we move to all maroon everything with absolutely no orange we lose that unique scheme that we have. We suddenly look like alabama/boston/everyone else. I'm in favor of all maroon everything but that's with the assumption that there will be orange something.
Just my personal tast in color schemes.
Old Man Philly takes issue with your casual use of "like" in written English. We ARE the only school that does maroon and orange.
OMG, are you like, the grammar police or something?
I can't stand grammar police....
That like was meant to show this was not an exact fact. I have no statistics or information on how many DIII or NAIA schools where maroon and orange. I even remember seeing an XC team decked out in Maroon and Orange (or some bastardized version of it) at NAIA XC nats.
Just followed. The best way to get this really going is to get a few of the players fired up, former or current. I see you are working on it.
My suggestion is get CJ Reavis involved. If you get him to help build it, they will come.
By the way, this idea has to happen. It's something ourfanbase needs, second only to bringing back "Stick it in". I feel like we've been losing our identity as fans and i want it back.
Yeah, this is exactly what we need. A true freshman clamoring about what uniforms we wear. That sounds healthy for the program.
Whatever happened to the lunchpail, blue collar mentality that we hold so dear. The same mentality that shaped this program? Last time I checked, blue collar men don't give a shit what they wear to work. The only thing they care about is out-working the other guy.
well i dont wanna look like a complete slob at work ;)
Hell, yeah. Fuck monochrome, or hyperchrome helmets, or whatever. I say the Hokies should wear lunch pails!
I think the all maroon everything does embody the lunchpail spirit. We've seen a lot of really exciting plays and big wins when we're in all maroon everything. I say get the players involved and lets get the mentality back!
Also - shoot me, but I thought the orange uni's were awesome. We lost to Duke because they were a better team, not because of orange uniforms.
We lost to Duke because we played like dog pooh. Duke was not the better team, they just derped less than we did.
I think the point was that superstitions relating uniform combinations directly to on-the-field performance can get silly quickly. I am 100% on board with your opinion that "we played like dog pooh" against Duke though.
Every time we've worn all orange we've playing like dog pooh. The unis are evil.
Note: I hated them because I just thought they were ugly. When they ran out of the tunnel I thought they were the Browns at first.
Haha I have to agree with that one. I hated when we wore the orange helmets with the white unis. It was an even worse look when they were combined with the orange pants that I think we wore at Marshall IIRC.
I hated when we wore those orange helmets and white unis against UVA two years back... At first glance, it was tough to tell who were the whos!
Except for the end of the game when we won, it was pretty obvious then.
Not really... we were the team with the talent. ;-)
Look like the Browns, play like the Browns. Let's do neither.
But my eyeballs lost that day because all orange was painful to look at.
Love the black uniforms. Would be a great look for national television and recruits love them. To the traditionalists: Wearing black uniforms would not hurt tradition or the school. We're not Alabama.
Ugh... we are slowly turning into Maryland fans.
Chicago Maroon and Orange. There is no black in the color scheme. As if the black uniform debacles against Boise State were not dreadful enough to never, and I mean ever, raise it's ugly head again.
Old, cranky, and a believer in a right way to do things. And proud of it.
Liking the black uniforms makes me like a Maryland fan? What could it possibly hurt to wear black uniforms for one game out of twelve (on Black Friday)?
Shnazzy uniforms are nice and all, but I did the math, and if you added up the total cost of all the different uniforms we've purchased over the last few years, you would have exactly enough to retain an offensive line coach.
math rocks
As much as I love the classic look, if it gets us some big recruits down the road (see Oregon) I'm ok with this idea. At the end of the day it's about getting the players fired up and exciting the next generation of both recruits and fans.
With that being said, I totally understand the point you are trying to make.In my opinion, if we were to wear #allblackeverything and lose to UVA in 2014 they would begin to carry the same stigma as the Green Notre Dame jerseys: look really nice while you lose a big game.
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I can not tell you how many times I rewound that as a kid and died laughing.
This idea is Ricky Vaughn just getting over the plate level bad idea.
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Strike that. It is hiring Curt Newsome to be your head football coach level bad idea.
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I can't help but feel you're upset.
I was going to delete this thread (something I almost never do), but decided to chime in and say how much I hate this idea and topic. Virginia Tech's colors are maroon and orange. That's it. Done. End of conversation.
Furthermore, it's kind of cool that a movement spun up out of the community here, but to me this is borderline spam. This will be the first and last, "HEY FOLLOW MY TWITTER ACCOUNT FOR ________________" post. Move that to Facebook, or Twitter. There's a field in the user profile where you can put your Twitter handle so people can find it.
Yeah, I get that. I'm glad you were rational and saw it kinda spun on me a bit, I didn't think that it'd be this fun and I should have definitely asked first.
I actually appreciate you changing the title. I would have been pissed as a user to see it and that's unfair of me to hawk my wares, as silly and as fun as it is.
Also, as a disclaimer, I get both sides of the argument. Tradition vs. flash, and before that spirals on me, it's never going to be black vs. orange and maroon. I love orange and maroon, my wardrobe proves that, however, we innovated the alternative jersey for college ball and I enjoy that immensely. Seeing black or silver paired up with O&M would look fantastic, I simply don't think it's been done correctly.
I apologize for stepping on toes and again thank you humbly for straightening me and the thread out.
Great lesson for all newcomers from TSL. Here the Hand of Joe will come down on shit that gets out of hand. And as hokieVIRUS shows even those that get slapped by said hand are graciously apologetic about it.
And then everyone gets turkey legs!
Regarding black uni's. I'm not opposed but ONLY if we had one standard uniform that could be brand recognition the likes of Michigan, ND, etc. If we had that and choose 1 game a year to do something then I can accept. Otherwise it's just all a setup for being mocked. I've seen the arguments that players love it but players love wearing nationally recognized uniforms more.
Dear new AD, please hold a national competition to design a beloved, nationally recognized Uni that brings the SWAG. My vote goes to anything all Maroon with orange highlights.
You don't have to apologize. You were just internetting, and there wasn't anything in the community guidelines explicitly forbidding promoting a Twitter cause. And I do think it's cool the website was able to get you a lot of traction, because it means there are a lot of active eyes on the site. My goal when moderating the website is to keep a good signal to noise ratio. I don't want the active discussions to transform from the things we normally discuss, to hey look at this thing I'm doing.
This is petty, fascist, and embarrassing. If a kid likes one thing and it doesn't harm anyone there is absolutely no reason for him to be made to feel sorry for it nor does he owe anyone an apology. We don't sit here and blame anyone for being old school or traditionalist; although its the sort of thing that can kill a program. New ideas, new life blood is the sort of thing that this country was founded upon and it's organizations within should be no different. If it were up to some people here we would look like the big 10...clinging on to the old guard while the game/life is passing you by.
Every major sports league is trying to figure out how to create more interesting Unis for a reason, and that's because it makes things more interesting; and it should not interfere with winning. So while we allow those who are actually responsible for developing a better hokie football product to focus on their task, I see nothing wrong for those who are interested to discuss other subjects that make the game more interesting for them.
Delete me if you will....
I think you missed the point. He was going to delete the thread due to the fact it was a 'please follow my twitter account post' which serves no real purpose in the community. Joe updated the title to better reflect the dialogue that is now taking place. He also wasn't bashing the idea, just stating his opinion that he doesn't agree.
Except, he is using someone else's intellectual property to promote his own intellectual property, which is one of the cardinal sins of this community.
But, that doesn't trouble me. What does is 1) Oregon is the only school that has the branding to sell good numbers of odd jerseys, because they are the innovator. Any other team that does it is just copying Oregon, which builds their brand, not ours. 2) The best way to maximize revenue is to improve the on field product. To me, exploring 3rd uniforms is a distraction and 3) Virginia Tech had a strong brand with their distinctive maroon and orange. Not only have the new uniforms diluted the brand, but besides the Hokie Stone Pillars all of the new uni combos are associated with complete and abject failures on the national stage. They hurt VT and not help. 4) Trolling malcontents are not welcomed. I am not in a position to delete you, but I sure would appreciate it if you spent more of your day elsewhere.
Notre Dame, Michigan, Ohio State and Alabama (just to name a few) have all worn special 1-off jerseys in recent years. Are you trying to tell me those schools are copying Oregon? No, I don't see that at all. I see their uni makers (Nike, Adidas, UnderArmour, etc) all realizing that putting a special 1-off uniform out there on a high profile school helps create buzz for their companies, and the schools realize that doing these 1-off jerseys helps create buzz within the fanbase and around the recruiting community and helps them be more attractive than they already are to recruits.
And if you want to get nitpicky about it, Maryland really got the whole thing about uniforms going, but I don't think anyone is willing to say that schools are copying the Terps when they wear a special uniform on occasion.
Yes, they are copying Oregon. They are looking to gimmicks to maximize revenue. And that stinks.
The point french is trying to make is that we had 8 different uniform combinations last year. That's a big difference than having a home uniform, an away uniform, and a 3rd special uniform. Personally, I think if you're going to do it for a certain cause, like Wounded Warrior, and someone else fronts the money or you auction them off to make up losses, go for it. Don't do it just to do it. Now if Nike wants to front the uniforms to showcase themselves, fine. But we don't need to go buy new uniforms for a single game on our own dime.
What if the players like getting to keep them as memorabilia? #RecruitingWin
You know what's a better piece of memorabilia? A ring. Ask any player if they would rather have a jersey or a ring and see what they say.
Now what if you asked them if they could have both??
As long as they don't try to sell them...
^This. and ^This again. The only combos we should be choosing from is white or maroon pants, white or maroon jersey, and maroon helmet - all the time. A one time one-off per season is okay.
Do schools really buy their own unis? I'm fairly certain that's part of our deal with Nike, that they supply them, except for certain circumstances such as our charity auctions. And I'd expect that if the new AD (or whoever deals with such things) went to our Nike rep and said "we want an awesome black uniform for Black Friday", Nike would be more than happy to oblige.
Nope - we buy them. That's why the special one offs get auctioned afterward. Partially to pay off the price of the uniform and partially to a designated charity.
edit: here is an article that Lester Karlin contributed to on just the cost of helmets
http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/9829911/uni-watch-explosi...
That's for helmets, I'd bet a good bit that it's different for jerseys. People are likely to go to the store and buy a cool Nike jersey that they saw on TV. People are not likely to go to the store and buy a cool football helmet that they saw on TV. While I could see there being limits to how many you get (causing us to have to auction some), I can't imagine that the schools had to pay for the Nike Pro Combat jerseys, for example.
I wonder if HokieJoe (the one working in athletics) has any insider info on this?
I spoke with one of the Baseball Equipment Managers and he said much of the football equipment deal is hush-hush. Baseball has to buy their unis but I suspect that's different considering it's non-revenue generating. I think that Nike approached us about the Pro Combat jerseys, not the other way around. We may have approached them for the gray unis for Bama, but look at what we got out of that. Neat, but nothing exciting or special.
I can respect that.
I could very well be wrong, but I think there are limits on what we can get. I don't know that we can get it as simple as that. I don't exactly know the details of our contract with Nike though. I'm sure there are specifications regarding what we can get and how often we can get them.
well once again u are the voice of reason french...while I feel I must express my gratitude for your providing some of the best hokie football content online; I am not grateful for all of your opinions. You state them as u see fit, then I state mine when I feel it's necessary. This is not a club buddy, this is a forum; which suggests freedom of expression and ideas. I will not engage in a pissing contest with you because quite frankly you are MUCH more valuable to this website than I am and I prefer it that way. But ultimately, I believe you should stick to what you do best which is explaining what we see or don't see on the field.
With your influence here, you are a strong voice, and strongly stated opinions against harmless enthusiastic ideas can be demoralizing to your peers (and they should not be made to feel criminal for opposing yours)...just something to consider. ...as well as me being a troll of course. lol
You referred to the site owner as a fascist. That isn't an opinion. That is trying to sideswipe an introduction to the community rules and a valid discussion about the state of college football (that was also a bit tongue in cheek) and turn it into a pissing contest for your own amusement. I welcome folks disagreeing with my opinion. I do not however welcome people sabotaging the community. Your track record as a malcontent and a troll is well documented. Please leave this community to those who are actually here to enjoy it.
Ok French...it's ur world buddy :)
fascist? that a little melodramatic.
I think he misunderstood Joe's post. If Joe were going to delete the thread simply because he disagreed with the premise, then fascist, while still possibly a bit strong, would in fact describe the action.
I think he missed the real reason, that it was borderline spam for a new Twitter account. And if he did catch that the first time around, then yes, I agree completely with you.
He benign iScrapp didn't misunderstand anything. His MO is to wait until a discussion gets a little heated, and then chime in with intent only to cause trouble. Then he cries foul about how his "opinions and observations were trampled on." You know, because comparing Joe's post to Generalismo Franco was a completely legitimate observation and not some kind of weak attempt to pick a fight. It is tedious and utterly lame.
French stop behaving like a child and take your ball and go play by yourself. If by expressing my opinions of things I agree or disagree with I am somehow destroying the forum then I pray you all accept my humble apology. French if it bothers you that I am not intimidated by your position then state that in your dialogue that I may consider apologizing to you personally. If because I add a "lol" or smiley face to the end of my post makes you feel I am entertained by disagreement, it is actually because I don't want to give the impression that I am taking any of these things personally and also my attempt to make light of the conversation. I have not antagonized or insulted anyone on here (not once). I also don't wait for the conversation to heat up before I chime in, I only chime in when I am able to do so.
I saw a fellow Hokie excited about what I considered to be a pretty good idea and established a forum to discuss it. Unfortunately I may have arrived late and didn't see the original title to assess its context. The next thing I see the kid is forced to take a defensive position and is humbly apologetic. I'm sorry but this offended me. I feel we are all a football/academic family and probably the most passionate one at that so it is your responsibility as a leader in this community to be above such strong positions and take a more neutral approach. Instead you stated your position emphatically and with your influence pretty much deflated the idea.
I can't tell you how to do you or be who you are French but please don't try to vilify me, a die hard HOKIE, because I have done nothing wrong here.
...btw I do apologize to you Joe, "Fascist" perhaps was a bit strong. And thanks again for establishing what I consider the best damn Hokie site out there.
Yes, jumping feet first in with fascist was "arriving to the discussion late" and "having an opinion." Again, the door is to the right.
I'm not sure you know what "fascist" means.
I didn't ask for an apology nor was my intent to make anyone feel sorry. I was just stating my opinion on the uniforms Tech should wear. Your reply seemed to imply people be should be allowed to do that.
Indeed, innovation is at the core of American culture, but so are checks and balances. Everyone in this thread has a different take on what uniforms we should wear and that's great.
"Every major sports league is trying to figure out how to create more interesting Unis for a reason, and that's because it makes things more interesting"
I think that's just part of a bottom-line driven strategy. Franchises and schools can now sell 2 or 3 types of jerseys instead of one.
And either I didn't do a good job of explaining why I would delete this thread, or you didn't understand what I was saying. There have been plenty of uniform debates on the website. If this topic was presented as a discussion over the merits of wearing the black uniforms against UVa I wouldn't have blinked twice. However, I don't want this place turning into a specialized Kickstarter or indiegogo.
Fair...and I agree.
I'll add my own #meaculpa (can't believe I just did that, but it seemed appropriate) here, too. I suggested the whole Twitter thing, and the hashtag. Hopefully I didn't incite spam. I just thought, given the recent attention to Hokie Club, fanbase participation, etc. it was high time that the Athletic Department heard from the most passionate part of the fanbase, which I believe lives here. I was hoping it would be an organic thing, but we'll see where it goes.
That said, everyone should express their opinion, if they feel strongly enough, to VT Athletics. Show them that we give a damn about something. I doubt most of the higher-ups feel like uniforms are that significant. If you want a modernized, one-off special jersey for Black Friday, tell them. If you're a traditionalist like French and Joe, tell them! Make them understand that we, the fans that fill the stadium (and who they wish would fill their wallets) pay attention to detail and love our team, and we care about how they are represented and perceived.
Another reason I love the black? The original colors of VAMC were black and gray in the 1870's or so, which I think also coincides with the last time UVA beat us. It's getting hard to remember.
And in closing, I think we all agree - as long as Foghorn Leghorn never comes back, we're better off.
Or you could use the momentum from twitter to drive traffic to the site. Maybe require a TKP tag on all tweets from allblackeverything or whatever it is.
I loved the black uniforms.
A million times better than these things.
I don't understand the black uniform hate. Yeah, it's nice to wear our colors with pride, and yeah, I hate most of the dumb designs we've come up with recently. But the black uniforms were one of the sleekest and most creative uniforms our athletic department (or Nike, whoever you want to give credit to) has ever come up with. We always talk about how important it is to get "national exposure" around here and nothing does that these days more than these uniforms, it's what the recruits always talk about when they visit and most younger fans find them badass (I'm a current student and I haven't met a single peer of mine who doesn't absolutely love them). It's not like anybody wants them to be the regular home uniforms or anything, it's for one nationally televised game on BLACK FRIDAY, it's the perfect time to break them back out again. And if you're really worried about black not being one of our colors, our official colors used to be black and gray, which I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere was the inspiration for these uni's in the first place; so if anything, it's the ultimate fusion of throwback/tradition with a modern and innovative touch.
I want to bring back the #ALLMAROONEVERYTHING spirit as much as anyone, but I don't see why wearing special uniforms for one game that aren't maroon, white, or orange is some kind of insane blasphemy. Nobody's asking to be Oregon or Maryland and come up with something stupid every single week, but it doesn't hurt to do something new every once in a while.
As long as we win!!!!
How about in honor of black Friday, UVA buys out Mike London at a discounted price
hey now lets not get crazy here.
hey hey..... black is NOT a color! so it doesnt go against maroon and orange.... no one complains when white is used as the palette(sp?). I boil this down to the unneeded hate of blackness..... /exaggeration
I think the main cool thing about these uniforms isn't the blackness but the awesomeness of the graphics. I definitely wouldn't want them all season long, but give me those sweet numbers kust least once every 4 years instead of the current once every lifetime. Or some other cool graphic.
Didn't we learn our lesson when we lost in black unis last time? #Allmarooneverything
right...because we've never lost in #Allmarooneverything. smh
Ban white uniforms they are not one of our school colors!
I don't know why this just dawned on me, but can you imagine the massive hard on Nike must have over The Battle at Bristol? They are probably working on a uniform that actually changes colors throughout the game.
I was thinking to myself when this game first announced. Nike please no checkered flag uniforms! They will probably have checkered flag colored endzones though, i can imagine.
I don't see how they could resist it. I hope to God they get decent announcers. I can already hear the "he's going a mile a minute", "it's a sprint to the checkered flag", and "looks like he needs a pit stop" flying around.
Note: Never mind, I'll be there in person so I guess I don't really care.
Recruits LOVED it when we were a part of the annual Pro Combat push from Nike. I don't think its a coincidence that our recruiting fell off the years immediately following when we stopped doing that and tried to do everything in-house.
Of our 2 Pro Combat looks, one was adopted full time at other universities (the White was immediately adopted by Arizona, and they still wear it) and the other kickstarted the matte helmet rage that has swept over the college football landscape. If you don't think that recruits noticed we were trendsetters back then and aren't now, you're only fooling yourselves.
Yes, we need black unis for Black Friday (its just one game, and its BLACK FRIDAY), it needs to be a night game, Lane Stadium needs to be blacked out by the fans, and Nike needs to be in control of the full design. Do that and recruits WILL notice, and we WILL get a lot of good publicity for it.
It is definitely a coincidence that recruiting fell off when we didn't wear Pro Combats.
I am a 100% #ALLMAROONEVERYTHING guy but you have tremendous logic on this. I think that it would be an amazing push for us. Recruiting, and national exposure for this game would be paramount. This season has the foundation to be a bit surprise great one for us. We have a pretty easy regular season schedule. Many of our young players will have a season under their belts and and we have some great options coming in as freshman. Also this will be the first "playoff" year. If we played good football, developed the young guys, got lucky we could be undefeated or with just one early season loss when this game happens. We would also be preparing for a game against the defending national champs in the ACCCG. The exposure would be insane...pair that with a fresh uniform that gets buzz on ESPN we could really land some top recruits. ##GLASSHALFFULL
Except there is ZERO evidence whatsoever that some recruiting misses happened as a result of the team not wearing pro combat uniforms. In fact, our worse ranked recruiting class in the since 2004 (#33 according to Rivals) was the class that signed in February of 2011. Guess what aired on national television less than 5 months before that? Virginia Tech wearing black Nike pro combat uniforms playing Boise St. Since you postulated that Pro Combat jerseys and recruiting are related, there is far stronger evidence that the Pro combat jerseys- and perhaps even black jerseys- contributed to the worst recruiting class in nearly a decade.
NOTE: I don't believe black Nike Pro Combat uniforms caused our recruiting to suffer for the 2011 class. This exercise was to demonstrate that uniforms may not be as important a factor in recruiting as fans tend to believe. A point of oversaturation may even occur with too many uniform combinations, evidenced by current recruiting rankings of: Maryland (#63), Oregon (#34). Regardless, coaches are by far the most important component of recruiting in my opinion.
It's impossible to prove a negative. The fact is, whenever teams unveil some flashy new uniform, players and recruits always seem to get amped. That was true with our black unis in 2011. I would say that The Game That Must Not Be Named (played 5 months - 5 days before signing day) and the loss to the Trees probably contributed much more negatively during that particular season.
I appreciate all the love and naysayers. You guys are my family and I can't help but be excited that both sides are being represented.
This isn't about anything more than I want to see something special, unique, and neat be rolled out. It's not about changing everything, and I know you guys get that.
Initially it started as a neat idea from Guitar. I simply took the ball and ran because I'm so cute and hilarious. I never intended and never thought fascism would ever be uttered here in response to my posts. No one should be mad at Joe for slapping my hand, simply put I deserved it. It's be no different than taking candy into a movie theater. This is his site and how he lives. I fucked with his livelihood and deserved the changes.
Not withstanding, look at the passion you guys are bringing. We are fired up about something.
It's fun being a Hokie again.
Guys calm down @VTmaroonUni has been made and we can all go back to drinking our coffee and enjoying our Giftory's and Hokie Love! ELE... Everyone Love Everyone... unless you're a Wahoo
Black unis?...NO! JUST NO! Maroon is the new black.
Eff it all, let's just go all Norwegian Curling Team with our next uniform:
Only if the zig zags are orange and maroon.
Maroon and Orange version of that for the coaching staff to wear on the sidelines
My two cents on all of the uniform combos...
It's easy to tell which dog is alpha male. He'll be the one doing the least barking.
I totally believe the uni combos are useless, and trifling. Before the whole child molestation thing, I thought Penn State was about the coolest program going because of their uniforms. Blue white combo with no fancy logo, and those black cleats. That uniform said, "This is all we need to kick your ass today."
Everybody does realize this isn't the first or only college football game to be played on Black Friday, right?
Last year there were SIXTEEN other games played the day after Thanksgiving, including a Big 10, SEC, ACC, and 2 PAC-12 matchups. How many of you remember those games or any huge national spotlight from them? Nobody cared that Miami and Pitt played on Black Friday last year, much less what uniforms they wore.
Fact is, this situation isn't close to comparable to the Labor Day game or even a Thursday night, where there is one national showcase game and we are starring in it. Chances are this will be a 3:30 kickoff and we're playing stinking UVA. It's not seen as a national rivalry, and this game is not going to capture the attention of a national audience or talked about on ESPN, regardless of what uniforms we wear.
Sorry if I sound like a negative nancy, but this game is getting blown way, way out of proportion for what the national perception will actually be. Black uniforms aren't going to change that.
They will if they look awesome, it's a night game, and we kick ass.
Then again, for it to be a night game it has to be somewhat relevant, so UVA would have to be pretty good for that to happen. So it won't happen.
I agree that if it was a big stage (night game, quality opponent) that it could be a big opportunity for the program to make a statement. However, UVA is looking at another 2-5 win season, which as hilarious as it may be for us, will continue to prevent our rivalry from ever capturing the attention of the average college football fan.
Hence, the last part of my post:
You make a solid point about how the game will likely not be in the national spotlight nor will it have large implications throughout college football. But I feel that this could be a HUGE campaign for recruiting in the state of Virginia. The Friday game itself could bring attention to the rivalry and throwing in boss uniforms could certainly help attract the attention of in-state recruits that continue to leave the state or go play for LOLUVA.
Yea, we totally would have been undefeated all these years if we just picked the right uniforms to wear and not the ones that had bad mojo or whatever. Come on, I mean we are not Penn State with only 2 uniforms and no names (until recently) on the back.Spice it up every once in a while (not Maryland often), excite recruits, sell some jersey (and use said money on coaches). Yea #AllMaroonEverything is what I prefer, but do you just want one standard jersey for home games and one for away from here to eternity?
*Side note as a PSU fan growing up I absolutely do want this for PSU but that's their tradition, we don't have a tradition like that.
I feel like the oldest person on this thread right now. Our colors are incredible, so why the need to be like everyone else and pull the whole blackout thing? And to those of you saying it'll serve to hype our players to play OUR FUCKING ENEMY. Do you think our players really need the motivation? It's UV-fucking-a. That's all the motivation there is! Y'all are making me get all Walter Sobchak over here.
I once dabbled in pacifism. Not in Nam of course.
Ironically, your post is making me get all Steve Sobczak over here...
I see what you did there.
All I want to say to this thread is:
-People are allowed to like whatever uniforms they like. It's not a crime.
-There's more downvotes on this thread than some of the "Logan is a TE" threads. Chill out, everyone.
If you'll notice 95% of the downvotes are directed toward one poster. I didn't see substantial downvoting toward those expressing an opinion on uniforms.
This is true and I accept my fate. I felt I was defending a fellow hokie and his right to promote a harmless idea. Maybe its this weird thing I have against bullying. If you were in any way offended by any of my posts, my apologies to you sir/ma'am.
#NoOrangeAnythingEver!!!!!!!
Hokie Joker!? I haven't heard from you in forever!
I fall firmly in the "Maroon w/ Orange Accents" camp for the uniforms, but it's hard to discount the reactions players have when they get new uniforms:
Player reaction video for the Foghorn Leghorn helmets:
This is the only reason I'm on board. Recruits/players love it
I just want to win a national championship, and I don't care if we have on maroon, orange, white, black... "Al Davis said it best, 'Just Win, Baby, Win!'"
Agreed...as long as we win I don't care if the team wears pink tutu's and rainbow colored helmets...
I like orange and maroon, maroon and orange...whatever combo. Winning goes a long way towards us not worrying about the uniforms. I don't care if we wear black for a game either...I was at the Boise St game and I thought we looked pretty cool in the black.
Go for it...I will support the team either way until the day I die.
I find it interesting that there is such a heated debate going on over here. They're just uniforms...heated debates should be reserved for topics like pie/cake and QB/TE position designations...
You know it's the off season when....people are on the verge of fisticuffs over what color we want our Unis to be for one game of one season
at least 50% of life is how good you look doing it.
It's is better to look good than to feel good...
Perhaps a bit late to the game, but I'd be okay with black unis under two conditions:
1) they'd be the only special unis we had all season, and
2) no more all-orange.
My vote is for the "once a year special uni" and I LOVED these..
Preference for uniforms:
1) Maroon
2) Other
3) AllOrange, unless it's against Clemson, with a single bold turkey track on an orange helmet, just to confuse them.
I didn't like black uniforms against Boise, not because they didn't look sweet (I think they did), but because it was a big game in a big venue on national tv and i thought we should have repped the true colors.
However,
Black Friday, Black Pro Combat Uniforms, the marketing writes itself! Come join us to mourn another loss for UVA on BLACK FRIDAY! AT NIGHT! With ENTER SANDMAN blasting on the stadium!
I'm already in uniform. Check out my unfettered awesomeness!
For all the "old school" people. We will not be going back to the Vick era um is sorry but its not happening, we are NOT Michigan or Penn st or bama or any of those programs that have that iconic uni set. That said change wll happen, I'm normally againt the blackout for the sake of a blackout thing, bit this makes to much sense not to. The game is on black Friday for Christ's sake. I'm also ready for the "throwback" units to go away forever. Time for a new uni set. Something simple yet modern take the seahawks uni turn the blue maroon and the grey chest stripes orange. Eliminate the green triangle on the shoulder and pants stripes and BOOM perfect