"The one negative about him going into the draft was he didn't want to hit anyone," said Vinny Cerrato, a former front office executive for the 49ers and Washington Redskins. "I thought he had great ball skills, great cover skills. He just wasn't a big tackler. He had all the skills. You saw that the other night."
OK, Vinny.
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As a football fan living in a D.C. (not even a redskins fan), this guy was a walking punchline from the get-go.
Any man who brought in an over-the-hill Deon Sanders has lost all credibility to evaluate DB talent.
I don't think Cerato was a personnel genius by any stretch. But I was listening to his Baltimore sports talk show about a month ago and he and his partner were talking about the personnel decisions that were his and those that were "others'".
His partner said that having worked with him for awhile now he could probably guess with 90% accuracy which decisions were which. One of the first names he threw out as not Cerato's decisions was Deion (as well as Dana Stubblefield). Without throwing anyone under the bus, Cerato basically said they weren't his. And IIRC, he did admit to a couple of mistakes, so I'm inclined to believe him.
Hopefully Brandon Marshall doesn't get to his head:
DING DING DING
Sorry, this was meant for top post and I'm too dumb to figure out how to delete it.
And Logan Thomas is too small.
hahahahaha. Vinny's still got it.
Did this guy watch any tape, maybe he should have checked the GT game as Fuller was a one man wrecking ball on their run game. Also how many CBs in the NFL are called upon to make big-time hits? If you need that from your CBs your D is screwed already.
WHAT AN IDIOT!!!
And this is why Washington's NFL team has such a strong secondary.....
So the guy evaluating draft able talent isn't paying attention to draft able talent.
"Kyle Fuller's high fiving skills are suspect" - Vinny Cerrato, probably
Every.
Damn.
Time.
I couldn't recall where I heard his name before...
oh yeah, disaster mode GM formerly of Washington. No wonder we were so poor with him at the helm. Thank goodness for Allen
If I not mistaken, Allen has little to do with personnel decisions. Regardless, the Redskins personnel decisions weren't markedly improved under Shanahan, IMO.
No, Bruce took that power back when Shanahan was fired. And Gruden wasn't the kind of coach that would be able to take that power upon hiring.
So it remains to be seen if the guy who admittedly has never really been a personnel guy will be an improvement over the previous 15 or so years?
I guess the Orakpo re-signing will be a pretty good barometer...a lot of dough for a good, but not great, pass rusher.
Did he even look at any film? Seriously, just google and you get this...
Edit: maybe he got confused and put in the tape of Kindergarten Ninja
That pass break up vs Bama, though...
The first sentence of his Wikipedia entry is hilarious:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinny_Cerrato
Oh man, this cannot be real....but it is!
FULL MOVIE!
WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?
J-Law always gets a leg from me
A down leg for upvoting J-Law? Really folks? Really? How do you live with yourselves?
Have a leg to cancel. Wish I could give another for that signature. I thought I was up on my VT history. Didn't realize he started "Stick it in."
upleg for the inexplicable downleg....
There was a review of him in one of the Chicago papers the day after Round 1 that said he wasn't a good tackler. I was flabbergasted.
I've had a crappy day and this thread just made me crack up. Well done, TKP.
I actually saw a couple "analysts" say his tackling/physicality was somehow his greatest "weakness" before the draft. I remember one specifically said "he needs to work on open-field tackling" which was hilarious. That's what made it obvious these guys don't actually watch the players at all.
Maybe they said it was a weakness because they had to list a weakness? Nah, it's probably just like you said. Fullers don't have a weakness.
Aside from Alonzo Tweedy, he's probably the best open field tackler we've had in a decade.
Obviously Cerrato did not use the proper rating scale of 1 to Fuller.
Vinny Cerrato was the worst GM ever. A total Yes Man, and literally was Snyder's best friend. The Redskins need to peek around the corner and see how the Lerners and Rizzo run a team. Redskins personnel staff is the absolute worst (competing with Oakland and Cleveland). The Nationals personnel staff is the absolute best (competing with Oakland, maybe Atlanta, at least Atlanta in the 90s). It's sad, I was once a huge Skins fan, and now I don't ever watch their games and Cerrato was a huge reason why.
Tampa Bay Rays and Oakland A's are in a class by themselves. Washington has the #8 payroll in baseball (higher than the Cardinals and Braves, one spot behind the Red Sox), and got some very high draft picks after years of being terrible (Strasburg and Harper).
I probably should have included the Cards (probably a mental lapse due to the pain they've given me), but the Nationals have some of the best young talent, ranked 2nd in players under 25. Cards are 1st.
Washington is 9th in payroll and only 20% higher than Cards and Braves. But I don't think payroll is a major argument because the Nationals have not built their team via free agency (Werth and Soriano are the only major FA signings). Washington drafts, trades for, and develops their talent.
Your argument about very high draft picks due to poor seasons is the exact same way TB developed their team (David Price, Evan Longoria, BJ Upton), so I don't know why you would reward TB for their development tactics and use it as an excuse for Washington. The biggest difference between TB and Washington will be the ability to keep a competitive team.
What a quote from BMarsh
People have said a lot of "words" about Marshall and his "self-involvement," but that's a strong quote from one of the greastest WRs in the game.
Edit: I should have seen the other post above. Sorry for the repeat, don't know how I missed it.
I was somewhat of a Brandon Marshall hater myself, but I've completely 180'd on that in the last few years. I think a lot of his off-the-field issues stemmed from his Borderline Personality Disorder. Now that he's recognized that was a problem and taken the necessary steps to manage it, he seems like he's a changed man. And based on my experience with a family member who suffers from BPD, I know it isn't an easy thing to do. I have a ton of respect for the guy.
Yeah, seems like he has turned his life around. I'm happy for him.
100% Agree. I've always been a fan. I'm glad he's successful on and off the field.
There was some of this stuff that came out around draft time. From what I saw it was mostly people looking at film from when he was hurt, and therefore tackling with one arm, ignoring three other years of film. He struggled as a cover corner in man coverage early in his career but improved that tremendously his senior year. Was always a good tackler.
Baffling.
If anything the major question coming out was durability and maybe top-end speed, though the combine largely quieted the latter concern.