
With Virginia Tech's vaunted season opener against Ohio State in Lane Stadium looming, the average Hokies fan likely isn't thinking too much about the "Battle at Bristol" right about now.
That's something that Frank Beamer, Whit Babcock and some assorted Tech players and coaches did their level best to change Tuesday for a simple reason: tickets don't sell themselves.
NASCAR driver Ty Dillon stopped by Blacksburg with his sizable automobile in tow, flanked by more than a few representatives from the Bristol Motor Speedway, where the Hokies will face off against the Volunteers on September 10, 2016.
Dillon ran through some (very light) drills with the players, and spent time hobnobbing with Beamer, a noted fan of racecar drivers.
"I follow those guys and admire those guys, they do something I couldn't do out there," Beamer said.
While it may seem odd that Beamer and company took time to pose for pictures and talk NASCAR with the date with the Buckeyes now under a month away, Babcock provided a little perspective on the issue.
The Hokies were allotted 40,000 tickets to sell for the game, with a payout for the program increasing based on how many seats they can fill. So far, they're halfway there.
"Last time I heard, we were crossing over 20,000, Tennessee's already through their (40,000)," Babcock said. "But I'd like our fans to know that we need to sell the full 40 tickets to get the full guarantee, so we need some help there."
If the Hokies meet that lofty goal, $4 million will be headed their way, so Babcock has plenty of incentive to play the salesman. Considering that Tennessee met the 40,000 ticket figure by last January, it's fair to wonder if Tech was too conservative in the way it structured its sales.
"Up until October 1st, only our donors have a chance to order and we'll probably loosen it up a bit," Babcock said. "Maybe in hindsight we were a little too tight with it, but with a year to go, we're not too concerned about selling those tickets."
Even still, Babcock is careful to note that opportunities abound for fans concerned that sponsors or the speedway itself might claim the right to prime seating areas.
"Our fans can rest assured they can buy the best possible seats in our sections and I hope they will," Babcock said. "We're gonna ramp up, obviously we've been focused on this season and Ohio State, but we're gonna refocus on the Battle at Bristol very soon."
In the more immediate goal of packing the house when the Buckeyes come to town, the Hokies are closer to reaching capacity. Babcock estimates the team is in "really good shape" when it comes to season tickets, with just 270 left overall in addition to 170 of the team's "mini-plans."
"We expect the mini-plans will go first and then season tickets and after that we'll start doing individual game tickets for Furman and other games where the visiting team doesn't take all their tickets," Babcock said. "But the chance to bounce back and get this thing moving in the direction of being sold out more, hopefully every game, but more than we have been is a big testament to our fans."
The AD notes that the team also anticipates pushing past the goal of selling 100 club-level season tickets, a number that will help the program afford its recent cosmetic improvements and "pay off the renovations in two years."
But beyond even just the simple allure of dollars and cents, Babcock says he prefers having all this hype directed toward a game on campus instead of at a neutral site.
"I like playing games on campus, there'll be times like Bristol, maybe a game in Charlotte at some point, the game in DC, but in general, we always want six or more home games here," Babcock said. "I just believe in playing as many games as possible on your home campus and getting people here."
Part of the drive to get people on campus includes some rumored efforts to secure a major concert at VT ahead of the big game. Country crooner Brad Paisley is the popular subject of those rumors, but Babcock declined to provide any details so as to err on the side of caution.
"We'd like to have some type of festivities Sunday night, nobody's trying to be difficult, it's just when you're in the final stages of a contract, everybody would feel better with that done," Babcock said. "Hopefully we'll have more on that soon and I just can't speak to it yet, it's better to be safe than sorry later. But we would like to make that entire weekend one heck of an event for Virginia Tech."
One thing Babcock can confirm: there won't be any live performances of "Enter Sandman" on tap on Labor Day or through the rest of the season.
"Metallica, when we checked because we do have some connections to their manager, they're touring Amsterdam and Germany, etc, so Blacksburg was not on that (list)," Babcock said. "That is something that we're working on, we're looking at dates for next year. I don't know that it will work out or be a full-blown concert, but if we could have them play here, they've been good to Tech, and we've been good to keeping their music in the limelight too."
The absence of the band won't be the only notable one on September 7. RB Shai McKenzie is suspended for the contest after he pleaded guilty to misdemeanor charges this offseason.
"We talked to Shai, and I do think for a young person to not have a chance to play in that type of game, it's not light on the punishment," Babcock said. "People may argue with that, but the fact of the matter is it was a misdemeanor, he's cleared the student code of conduct, I think he's got a few other things to handle to get back in good standing, but we felt like it was right, and we talked about it and visited with Shai and that's what we came up with."
But despite that bit of unpleasantness, the anticipation level for the game remains through the roof. While Beamer has talked plenty about the fan base's level of readiness for the matchup, associate head coach Shane Beamer also shared plenty about his dad's enthusiasm for starting up the season.
"Believe it or not, he probably took less vacation time this year than I've ever known him to take," said the younger Beamer of Frank.
The Beamer family traditionally takes an extended vacation at their home on Georgia's Lake Oconee, but Shane says some tragic news helped jolt Frank back into action. When the head Hokie got the news about former athletic director Jim Weaver's passing on July 2, he couldn't stay at his leisure much longer.
"The day that coach Weaver passed away, we were actually headed to play golf with Rich Rodriguez that day," Shane said. "I'll never forget, he came out in the driveway and told me what happened and he said 'I need to stay and handle things out the house, you go play.' So I went and played with Coach Rodriguez and then he went back for the funeral and I think at that point he decided, 'I'm vacationed out, let's roll' and that's what he did."
Shane insists his father spent plenty of time on the lake, golfing with college football luminaries like Rodriguez, Jim Grobe and Dan Mullen, but notes he could hit the links "only so many times" before the itch to return to Blacksburg became unbearable. Weaver's death simply served as a catalyst to get him back to the team facility.
"We technically didn't have to be in the office for two more weeks, but he never went back to the lake," Shane said. "He spent less time at the lake than he ever does and I told him 'you ought to relax and get away for a little bit, the season's gonna be a grind' but he was like 'nah, I'm ready to get to work, and let's go.' And he came back and he was in the office for two weeks working by himself when the other coaches were on vacation, so the energy level is certainly back."
Shane notes that Frank isn't one to encourage his staff to "just be in the office just to be in the office" so his presence was certainly meaningful.
"He always tells the coaches since I've come back to work for him 'I'm not gonna be one of those guys who have office hours, I'm not gonna be one of those guys who's going up and down the hall making sure you're working, I trust you to do your job, that's why I hired you. I trust you to do your job, get your work done, and when you're done, get on out of here and go see your family,'" Shane said. "And that's not to say he's leaving at dinner time each day, because he's out here some nights later than all of us."
One assistant who has a bit of trouble with that message is offensive coordinator Scot Loeffler. The OC is infamous for showing up to practices bleary eyed and unshaven after long nights in the office, and the younger Beamer says he can't even begin to count the number of times Loeffler has slept on the couches in the football offices.
"I can remember the first spring he was here," Beamer said. "It would be like March, I would come in on a Thursday morning and he'd be like 'Shane, it was awesome man, I stayed up til like 4 o'clock in the morning watching the San Francisco 49ers run game, and I broke down every concept they run offensively.' That's just how he is, he loves football."
But Beamer says that drive isn't simply to avoid the wife and kids at home. Rather, it stems from his obsession with the game.
"He's got a beautiful family, has a baby at home, so he's been home from that standpoint," Beamer said. "I've been around some coaches that stay in the office because they hate going home, and that's not the case. He loves going home, he loves his family, but football is really important to him."
Thankfully, Beamer feels this offseason might not require the same level of stress for his OC.
"We've got more weapons than he's had since Lefty's been here and you don't have to stay up there all night long trying to devise ways to get guys open," Beamer said.
Beamer says he's even seen Loeffler making time to exercise occasionally, and he pledges that this season will be the one where he haunts the facilities a little less frequently than in years past. Of course, these are easy promises to make in the preseason.
"We're four days in and Scot typically says the right things in August," Beamer said. "Now, when it gets to be Wednesday night of the Ohio State game week, that's a different story, because he's just wired differently."
Determining the wiring of a bunch of assistant coaches might not be Shane's province at the moment, but Frank seems ready to consider handing him that burden someday. But at this point, Shane is staying typically tightlipped on the whole episode.
"I can't speak to his conversations with Bud (Foster), but him and I have never talked about that," Shane said. "I think he's like any head coach, if you asked any head coach in America 'coach if you're still here when you retire, would you like to see someone on your staff get the job?' I'm sure every coach in America would say that. But he's never discussed anything like that with Bud and I. It's tunnel vision. When I heard that, it's like 'ok, let's get ready for the first day of fall practice, let's get ready for Ohio State.' That's all that any of us are thinking about as a staff right now, is Ohio State."
But as the elder Beamer casts his eye to the matchup in Bristol a year down the line, the thought of when he might hand over the reins to the program have surely bubbled up. It's inevitable as he contemplates how the team might look in his 29th year at the helm.
For now, Shane sees his father as the same competitor he's been all his life with the 2015 season moving ever closer.
"He's an extreme, extreme competitor and certainly has an edge about this season," Shane said. "So he's motivated, he's ready to go and on his toes and as excited as I've ever seen him."

Comments
#1, thx for the great read. I always enjoy sipping my first cup of coffee while catching up on the latest and greatest news coming from thekeyplay. Keep up the great work.
#2 I know I speak for most of us when I say this; we all know Frank's ship is about to sail off into the sunset. As much as he declined questions about his health, watching him time and again this offseason points in that direction. I love the guy, want him around for a long time. But in the last 3 years, he appears to have aged 10. I give him through next season, then I believe he hangs it up. Seems like the prefect way to go out for such a big NASCAR fan.
#3 I love neutral site games, and hope to be in Bristol. But one of the big knocks on season tickets is a lackluster home schedule. Aside from one big headliner, Whit and his staff need to conjur up some plans to bring more big names to campus. With the likes of Duke, Furman, crossovers with NC State, etc...the schedule at home doesn't have that "shiny new coin" look to it. I think if they improve the quality of the visiting teams, tickets will sell themselves. Our product is improving, let's marry that up with some bigger names.
OSU, MICH, WISCY all come to Lane soon.
Don't forget ECU and ODU! *ducks*
In the interest of fairness, here's Bill Clinton ducking a question...
After this season, there's isn't a marquee non-conference game on the home schedule until Tech plays Notre Dame in 2018.
2016: Liberty, East Carolina, Georgia Tech, Miami, Boston College, Virginia
2017: Delaware, Old Dominion, Duke, North Carolina, Pittsburgh, Clemson
The home schedule in 2016 is very weak. 2017 is a bit better with the addition of Clemson. Of the 12 games played at Lane in 2016-17, just three (Georgia Tech, Miami, and Clemson) seem appealing enough to merit a time slot other than noon or noon:30.
Liberty and ECU at home? Delaware and ODU? Yikes. I know Whit has said the schedule is mostly set for the next couple of years, but I would be trying to work out something a little better. Maybe a one off or home-and-home with Vandy, UK, Indiana, etc.
Also, I know everyone is excited for the Battle at Bristol, and it is a pretty unique, novel idea. But I am a much bigger fan of the traditional home-and-home series with teams than neutral sites.
Liberty?! WTF is that? Who decided THAT was a good idea? Jeebus H Christ on a bicycle! Why don't we just schedule friggin' Mary Baldwin? I've taken so much crap over the years when we play JMU, W&M, etc. Would it really be that bad to schedule an out of state mid major like Indiana or a low tier SEC team to fill that OOC cupcake slot? I get the in-state help each other out thing, but if we want to get to the point where we are in playoff contention every year, this has to stop!
Liberty.... because ECU said 'no' to a same season home and home
Gotta disagree, first scheduling like dancing takes two, other schools have a say second it seems that scheming FCS a teams doesn't hurt SEC teams or PAC teams when it comes to playoffs.
Scheduling FCS when you're in the SEC or PAC 12 is okay due to the perception (and often times reality) that they are better conferences top-to-bottom than the ACC. Bama plays Auburn, LSU, aTm every year. There is no way that a schedule of Duke, UNC, Wake, and BC looks equal to or better than that. And I honestly think the PAC 12 is as good if not better top-to-bottom than the SEC.
Plus, given how lackluster our conference home schedule is some years (rarely get to play Clemson/FSU, years where GT and Miami are both away games) having all these FCS/mid major games really hurts ticket sales. I know fan support is incredibly important, but there is no way you can get people excited about spending hard-earned money to see Liberty/ODU/ECU/Delaware plus the usual mix of Carolina schools and BC over and over again. No doubt the OSU game has everyone excited, and I'm not saying we need a full slate of top-tier OOC teams every year, but as I mentioned: call Vandy, UK, Indiana, etc.
On the positive, those home schedules look

to me.
Whit has said he likes the home n home series as well. I think he'll work more of those in. I hope he is able to change the ECU schedule and work in some better home and home series in earlier. Playing at ODU could be a good recruiting game (we need to win by a solid margin).
The Battle at Bristol is not just any neutral site game. Its gonna be off the charts crazy and a great marketing game. Its an anomaly on the correct side.
Like I've said before, I can understand scheduling ECU or ODU, but they should be filling the same spot, not two spots on the schedule almost every year, and you'd like to see one premium and one mid-range OOC game every year.
But just to be fair, they've scheduled some great top-tier games.
The good news is Virginia Tech will be playing in all of those games.
NC State is a great home game and will be in high demand. I can't believe Hokie fans have Pitt, UNC, Nc St on the home schedule and STILL complain. Those are all regional (some traditionally national powers..Pitt). We used to have home schedules like this: Rhode Island, JMU, Richmond, W&M....that was our 1980 Peach Bowl team's schedule
Your point is absolutely correct, VT has come a long way. But VT wasn't even in a conference in 1980, and still managed to play West Virginia (at home) and Florida State (away). The year before that they played Florida State and Clemson (at home), and #1 Alabama (away).
That was my sophmore year.....and of those teams, we lost to Richmond that year.
Pitt—national power?
And when was the last time any of those teams did anything nationally relevant in football? Here are their records last year (previous 5 years in parenthesis)
Pitt was 6-7 last year and blew it against Houston in the Armed Forces Bowl. (2014: 6-7, 2013: 7-6, 2012: 6-7, 2011: 6-7, 2010: 8-5)
UNC finished 6-7 with a loss to Rutgers in the Quick Lane Bowl. (2014: 6-7, 2013: 7-6, 2012: 8-4 *self-declared bowl ineligible, 2011: 7-6, 2010: 8-5)
NC State finished 8-5 with a win over UCF in the St. Petersburg bowl. TheirOOC schedule last year: Georgia Southern, ODU, USF, and Presbyterian; they won all of them for half of their win total. (2014: 8-5, 2013: 3-9, 2012: 7-6, 2011: 8-5, 2010: 9-4)
I can't buy into NC State this year either. Their OOC schedule is one of the softest in the nation with such big names as Troy, FCS Eastern Kentucky, ODU, and South Alabama. I expect them to again win all of those and that'll probably make up half their win total again.
Those are NOT marquee games anymore that people are going to go crazy over. None of those teams are nationally relevant and none of them are (to my mind) football rivals.
This is 2015, not 1980. We're in the ACC and are a nationally known program. I realize that you don't want to go crazy with OOC scheduling (looking at you, Virginia) but people want excitement. And teams that finished 6-7, 6-7, and 8-5 last year aren't that exciting, even if they are in conference. Teams that finished 14-1 are. Rivalries are. NC State, Pitt, UNC, Furman, and Duke are not. I'll be there cheering with the rest of you fine folks but I'm not going to fool myself into thinking that those games are marquee matchups.
Bud, I'm from Carolina originally, and still have a State pennant that was given to me by my late father. I'm all for regional ACC games. My point is this: right now Clemson and FSU are considered the darlings of our conference. There are kids on the roster today, that will never play FSU, Clemson or Louisville. The administration needs to find a way to ink some more home/home games with other Big 5 schools. Marketing Duke, State and Pitt isn't going to reinvigorate a disenchanted fan base. OSU, Wisconsin, PSU, any SEC school...that will put butts in seats. And putting butts in seats is what keeps the lights on. Yes, at one time we did play JMU, Rhode Island, and The University of Slippery Rock...or whomever. But that was then. This is now, and comparing the two is irrelevant. This team, school, and coaching staff has been to the mountain top, has flirted with a summit, and continue to knock on the door. Liberty on our schedule is plain silly. Expectations have changed.
You best hope the Curry family doesnt read this... But, I 98% agree, my 2% goes to the idea that it is a work in progress. The playoff changes the cupcake schedule (for the better), especially for the ACC, Big12, and PAC12. We will finally be rewarded for scheduling challenging games rather than the hurt we felt from Bama and Boise. We have a good head start into the next 5-10 years. Excited about the "reevaluation every week" to make sure the best teams are in the playoff. anOSU was a product of that last season.
Here it is, I challenge anyone who feels they could schedule better to do so. Find a team you deem worthy of coming to VT and see if they have an open date or travel to an opponent they would give up to come to VT. It's not easy.
Something else to consider. The risk/reward of playing VT is not as favorable as it once was. OSU can tell you that firsthand. Beating us is not considered a quality win and losing to us is considered a bad loss. The difference between us and UVA is that UVA is a P5 cupcake (more attractive than a P5 trap game). VT needs to BECOME the team that puts butts into other team's home seats. We aren't that team anymore, but I think we are not far off from becoming the team other conferences crave to play with the dream (silly dream) of beating us.
So our game with Purdue is a one time thing? I figured we get them in Lane next year.
Purdue visits in 2023.
Sooooooo what Whit is saying is we're never playing at FedEx again right?
Except WVU in 2017...
I had completely forgotten about that...
I'm not big on blaming the venue for results.
The way to change the karma associated with a venue is to win the games.
I promise Im not trying to be prickly or abrasive by asking this, have you been to more than one VT game at FedEx?
I went to three: USC, Boise, Cinci. I had an blast at the first two (USC and Boise). I get that everyone hates Dan Snyder, and the location of Fedex but to me it is not a deal breaker. As long as it's a marquee game I am all for it every now and then
I was at Boise and Cincy. They're a blast until you have your heart ripped out and i just feel like there is a stigma when it comes to playing in that stadium. But the again I have always been a little stitous
That's fair. I admit to not remembering the Cincy game even though i was present. For the best
Yeah I still see that final pass down the sideline vividly...And dont get me wrong. Losses I could take. I have absolutely no problem with playing in Charlotte (my first ever VT game was ECU in '08 and the ACCCG against Clempson). But at FedEx, the "Heart ripped out" to "regular win/loss" ratio is FAR too high to be considered curseless...
Wait...all losses...did u not go to ACCCG in CLT vs FSU? If not, u may be the problem!
haha nope that cant be it. I was at the ACCCG against FSU. I was also at Nebraska in Blacksburg, the Miami rain game, GT when wilson had a huge kickoff return, and Miami in 2011
I promise Im not trying to be prickly or abrasive by asking this, have you been to more than one VT game at FedEx?
No, but only because I don't live there anymore.
I was a Redskins season ticket holder until last year.
Man thats dedication. My point is basically if you were at a couple of the heartbreakers at FedEx, they just feel different. Like theres just bad juju there that only wishes to cause pain and anguish to us as a fanbase...
There's no better way to remove the bad juju than by going back there and winning.
The same applies to big bowl games, and the national championship, by the way. I WAS at the Sugar Bowl against Michigan, so I'm not unfamiliar with heartbreak. I'd go back to see VT in the Sugar Bowl again in a heartbeat.
Yep I was at the Sugar Bowl too! That was a blast...but mainly because of N'awlins haha.
I will give you this, if we beat WVU in 2017, I will gladly eat crow. But if we lose in heartbreaking fashion again, I mean gut wrenching, I will forever become an advocate of never playing in FedEx ever again. Ever.
Think more positively!
Trying...
Moment of Zen:
You had to choose a picture with CJ and Keihn front and center?
Good catch. I was focused on the numbers on the scoreboard, not which players were in front.
I replaced it with a more zen photo, unless you can find some inadvertent attrition in this one as well...
Nah this one is good, although what team is the dude in the highlighter yellow jacket rooting for?
Leaving the stadium before traffic builds up?
that's their security guards who yell at you to calm down and sit down and stop cheering loudly..
Unfortunately I can't forget...my bro in law is a WVU fan who married
my sis a Hokie....so we're kinda all looking forward to it...except that it's
at FEDEX field...damn it.
Have you ever asked your sister just...why? haha
It's funny...dude is a closet VT fan as well...will just never admit it.
He actually attended VT for a year and tried out for the Baseball team.
I love him because he secretly keeps up with all our sports info.
I'm teaching his daughter "Let's go! Hokies!!" at the moment... :)
Just get your sister one of these. He'll perk up and even start yelling "Go Hokies" by the end of the first sixer.

Someone gave us one of these. It's also really fun when you toss something on top of it in the drawer unintentionally and it starts playing unexpectedly. The accidental Hokie, so to speak. It's a fun little item.
Oh, don't think this hasn't ever been strategically placed so that something may or may not "fall" or touch the metal parts when the drawer or the one below it is rattled a little. It's called subliminal training for your 5 year old when he's in the other room, hears it, and says Go Hokies with the opener...
I had one of these, but it stopped working. I didn't use it for too many bottles (IBC rootbeer) but I found ways to get it to sound off and wore it out.
Hey, props to him for bucking the trend. I mean, a WVU fan who married your sister as opposed to his sister.
Anyone else incredibly confused on how to buy the tickets for Bristol?
I'm pretty sure I put down my deposit, but I'm really not sure how to go about actually getting tickets.
I'm not sure how it works, either, but I assume they'll send something out.
For away games, I think they just bill the card you put down as a deposit for the rest of the ticket price and mail you the tickets. Given the lead time involved, credit cards may have expired by then.
Article says they've already sold 20k tickets.
I'm a Hokie Club member and Season Ticket holder, so I would assume that means I should have the ability to buy them now but I haven't received anything about actually buying tickets.
Log into into your Hokie Club account should be a link to buy.
There's the ticket deposit application but that's it.
I guess I don't understand how they've sold 20k tickets unless that's what they're counting.
Must be. Nothing is likely to be finalized until 2016, per the timeline given in:
http://www.hokiesports.com/football/battleatbristol/ticketinfo.pdf
See p. 2 (Timeline)
From the web page:
Hokie Club members and football season ticket holders will have until Oct. 1, 2015 to submit their order and receive preferred seating. You may order as many tickets as you like, with up to 10 tickets being placed in priority. A $25 non-refundable deposit per ticket is required when you place your order. You will receive an invoice for the remaining ticket balance in early 2016. With the Point Priority deadline being Dec. 31, 2015 , seat allocation won't take place until early 2016.
It seems to me that VT always screws up the ticket buying process. Just sell the tickets. You have 40,000 of them. My god. Why make it so confusing?
Because if they sell them to "everyone" Tennessee fans could in theory buy our allotment. The same reason they are trying to sell the mini plans and season tickets now to only HC members. That way OSU doesn't buy them.
I get all that but VT always seems to have this process and then gets screwed in the end. If Tennesse fans are more amped to go to this game than we are then shame on us and more power to them. From what I understand, there will be over 150,000 people at this game. If we can't sell 40,000 tickets then it is going to be a home game for Tenn. anyways. There at least has to be a better process to get the tickets to VT fans.
Soon the tickets will be open to buy.
we have 13 months until the game. VT implemented a process to get the tickets, and it's still in that process. Let it play out, and see how things are in a few months before thinking we'll get screwed.
And maybe there will be in the future. But again, let's see how it goes.
Like guitarman said below, VT has been sitting on these tickets for a year and a half. They should have been sold out a year ago. Meanwhile Tenn. fans are foaming at the mouth waiting for the next round of tickets to be sold and we are still trying to get rid of HALF of our first batch. To me, that shows that VT screwed this up.
Tech is trying to reward people who support VT sports AND keep Tenn fans from buying VT tickets.
I would be fine with this if they kept it "walled off" for less time. Fine, have a premium period for those who donate and such. But that's gone on for a long time now. How many new ticket sales are happening? If it's drying up, it's time to move on, otherwise the rest of us feel shut out or less important. If you want to keep a barrier on the process, open it to the VT student and alumni community by limiting sales during the next phase to anyone with a valid vt.edu email address (since they're for life). Then, after some amount of time, just open it up. You can only do so much in terms of the desire to prevent UT fans from jumping in on our sales.
Whit said in an interview ticket sales open up soon.
That's well and good, but they've been available for sale for a year and a half. That seems excessive to me.
And the game is over a year away from now.
They wanted to make sure they got the money from the Tenn fans. VT fans will buy tix no matter when they are on sale. Give it some time...it's a process, not an event. (the ticket sales that is.) We'll be fine and have plenty of fans in Bristol come game time.
I'm not concerned at all, I just think it's bad PR. UT sells out their share almost immediately. VT sits on tickets that will no doubt be sold but are reserved for a select subset of the fan base. Seems like a bad policy. I know Whit and the people in the ticket office have their reasons, it just doesn't seem logical to me.
I'll happily wait my turn once Oct. 1 rolls around; as soon as this game was announced I had a commitment from some friends that we would get tickets. We're ready and eager to buy.
I also think this might be a reason the Hokie Club is FINALLY above ten thousand members.
and also take this into account. UT is in a city of one million (give or take) people with no pro sports team. They fill their 100,000 seat stadium with a lot of people from Knoxville along with the rest of the fan base which is as big and spread out as you'd expect for a school like that. 40K tickets is a joke for them when you consider it's a game within 2 hours of campus (which is also their biggest concentration of fans). In our case, being close to campus isn't as much of a plus location wise. When your largest concentration of fans/alumni is 4 hours north of campus, playing 2 hours south makes it even worse for certain fans. Honestly, I think a DC game would have surpassed 40K tickets even with the restrictions in place.
then throw in the potential drawbacks of seeing a game at Bristol (sight lines, distance from field, UT fans) and it doesn't surprise me that they've only sold 20K so far. There's no sense of urgency since the game is still over a year away. That said, I would much rather all 40K of our allotment go to Hokie fans than sell out as fast as UT, but risk giving them our tickets. I'm not worried about us getting stuck with extra tickets. They will be sold, just a question of how we can make sure they go to hokies. I wonder if they could somehow distribute them through alumni association chapters (not that all tech fans are alumni) to reach a larger pool of potential purchasers while still limiting access.
HA! Nice one.
Also, Knoxville has about 180,000 residents. Nowhere close to a million people. But your point still stands. There are a lot more UT fans in the Knoxville area/region that foam at the mouth over anything UT related.
The KMSA is, in turn, the central component of the Knoxville-Sevierville-La Follette Combined Statistical Area, which, in 2013, had a population of 1,096,961.
My bad. Knoxville and the surrounding area is a million.
Wow. I'll have to tip my hat for that one. I didn't realize there were that many people in that region.
yep. Tons of jobs and whatnot to attract people, but NOVA-esque sprawl (proportionally, of course) because a lot of them don't want to live in Knoxville.
It's a minuscule amount of bad PR. As far as I can tell, UT did the same thing and sold tickets to their season ticket holders / booster club members first. A bunch of factors add up to generate greater demand for UT fans.
1) The game is closer to UT than it is to Blacksburg, and more importantly the game is closer to the homes of a larger number of UT fans than it is to VT's.
2) UT also sells something like 80,000 season tickets per year, and VT is more like 50,000. Bigger pool of potential buyers.
3) UT is on a hype train with their new coach and some great recruiting. VT is agonizing over a soon-to-be-retiring head coach. To a lot of UT fans their team over the next 2-4 years is a "buy" while for VT fans, our team is at best a "hold"
Put all these factors together and you have 40,000 UT season ticket holders who are willing to put down money 2 years in advance for a game in their backyard, and "only" 20,000 VT buyers.
Personally it's impossible to get my friends to plan for games more than a few months in advance, much less two YEARS in advance. I don't know whether I'm buying 4 tickets or 8. Hopefully I can hammer that out over the next 6 weeks.
I also don't see the rush to lock up 100-200 of my dollars in reservation deposits when seats are going to be assigned by point priority anyway.
I also don't see the rush to lock up 100-200 of my dollars in reservation deposits when seats are going to be assigned by point priority anyway.
I think this is a great point.
My opinion is that maybe they'd have been better off having an initial sales period last year, and having a second one this year. Because of the way they did it, there was little incentive to reserve before this October, as reserving earlier didn't buy people anything in terms of better tickets or anything.
I can't be too critical, as it's a big undertaking.
Your point about the game being closer to UT's largest fanbase vs. VT's is definitely a valid point, but Knoxville is only 25 miles closer to the speedway than Blacksburg. I'd say that is negligible.
The implication was that VT's fan base is in Northern Virginia, not Blacksburg.
Reading comprehension is important. I noted that point and said it was valid.
I just didn't think the part that lead DBU's first point had much merit.
I agree. Reading comprehension IS important.
Look on the bright side...we could be playing a neutral site game in Mexico City...
edit: /s
Off topic:
New member, just wanted to say hello to you Hokies. You're a great fanbase. I enjoy reading this site, and hokie fans who have posted on 11warriors are very classy. Good luck to your team this upcoming season. Win or lose, you're the best opposing fans I've encountered as a Buckeye fan. Go Bucks
hi, welcome. Always good to have some folks around to give the other viewpoints I look forward to your contributions.
thanks hokie07,
this is my first time registering on any non-osu site. It's nice to talk football with level headed fans. We all love the game, just follow different teams. I even enjoy the "anOSU" thing in my own way. Never thought highly of teams or fans who have beaten osu in the past, but I'll be rooting for you guys after week 1, as I did last year after week 2.
We appreciate you visiting, and the thoughtful comments. I've enjoyed reading the feedback and interaction of other OSU alum/fans, it seems to me that the two fanbases have a lot in common. May the best team win! Thanks for stopping by.
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That's what Pass Interference looks like.
Motley could use some help out there.