Hokies Men's Basketball Fall 60-85 to White-Hot Fighting Irish

Buzzketball lost its sixth game in a row last night.

Satchel Pierce misses a dunk attempt. [Mark Umansky]

The Virginia Tech men's basketball team started to form a reputation in the weeks leading up to Thursday night's matchup against No. 8 Notre Dame. The Hokies were just annoying enough to hang with their much more talented opponents, fighting to make games as interesting as possible.

Against the Irish? Well that reputation may have taken a hit, as Tech was shot out of the gym and dropped their sixth consecutive game 60-85.

Though a decent first half kept the game within reach, Notre Dame seemingly couldn't miss all night. They nailed 12 threes at a 46-percent clip from behind the arc, and hit almost half of the shots they took overall (29-59 from the field).

The Hokies simply couldn't keep up with that pace, and seemed to be pressing at times offensively. With Justin Bibbs out for the second straight game, the team only went 7 of 24 from deep (29 percent). And, according to the handmade shot charts given out to the media post-game, Tech only sank 5-14 from the corners. This team shoots a large amount of threes from that area, and you'd like to see that specific percentage higher.

Yes, the game wasn't close, but you can still find things to look for when a team is down by twenty or more. To me, it's always interesting to see which guys try just a little bit harder when their team is getting blown out. It's not in a "let me pad my stats" kind of way, but rather something that just shows how much a player hates to lose.

For example, Ahmed Hill was doing everything he could to lead a one-man come back. Even when Mike Brey cleared out his bench, Hill was pressing. He was flying to the ball to get steals, and he was leading the charge on oft-fruitless one-on-many fastbreaks. When the horn mercifully sounded, there was visible disheartenment in his eyes.

As someone who holds the (unofficial) record for most career losses in the York County Parks and Recreation Basketball League, I knew that look. It was a look that said 'this sucks and we need to be better.' Only Hill's look came with the ferocity of someone willing to run through 10 scorer's tables to make sure his team actually gets better.

Yes, Hill frequently plays so fast that many of his possessions end in wild layup attempts (he's basically this team's Luis Mendoza), but he cares. And he hates to lose. It makes perfect sense as to why he followed Buzz from Marquette to Tech, they're a near perfect fit of player to coach.

The big story before the game was that junior forward Joey van Zegeren had decided to leave the team. Though this shouldn't have come as a surprise to anyone, since the Dutchman missed the team's entire conference slate to this point, it definitely drives home certain problems the squad will have for the rest of the season.

Tech is undersized, and now will be even smaller. The team lost it's one true rim protector (no offense to Shane Henry), its best rebounder and its only real threat to score consistently close to the hoop. Post presence, rim protection and rebounding were already problems when van Zegeren was playing, and now? Well they can best be described as disaster areas.

But really, JVZ's exit highlights something even bigger than the on-court difficulties the Hokies will face this year. It makes it very clear that Buzz Williams is looking for something from the players on this team, and that if someone doesn't have whatever Buzz is looking for, he'll have no problem moving on.

I'm not going to speculate on what Joey did to earn the initial punishment before this was announced, it doesn't matter now. I will say this, though: a "mutual decision" sounds like it was best for both the team and the player to part ways, and it opens up an avenue for Williams to bring in one more young player who fits his system.

Sure, van Zegeren's departure makes the scholarship numbers work out evenly for next season, but the staff is still actively recruiting. Don't think for a second that just because they don't have any more open schollys that these coaches would hesitate to add someone whom they think could help.

In fact earlier this month Tech offered class of '15 prospect Levi Cook, a 6'9" 300 pound center out of West Virginia. And, not so coincidentally, guess who was in attendance on Thursday night? That's right, the Huntington Prep behemoth.

Williams and company are going to turn this team around, and the results will probably come quicker than you'd think. But many of the players who will lead the turnaround? They're currently in street clothes on the bench, watching the games from home or slogging through a brutal freshman year.

2016 Hokie basketball is looking better seemingly by the day, but for this year? Well it seems that fans will have to feast on hope, grit and three pointers for a couple more months.

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Yes, Hill frequently plays so fast that many of his possessions end in wild layup attempts (he's basically this team's Luis Mendoza)

I love a good Mighty Ducks quote in the morning.

"Welcome to the Terror Dome." -- Corey Moore

I'll take "Images that sum up the 2014-2015 Virginia Tech Men's Basketball Season" for $100, Alex.

On a side note, it looks like Buzz is doing some strong relationship building with Huntington Prep based on that tweet.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

I'm becoming more and more impressed with the way Satchel Pierce is playing as well. For being a lanky 7 foot freshmen being thrown into the spotlight, I think he has answered the bell. I'm excited to see him grow into a great big man in the next few years.

... besides the missed dunks...

He had some terrible missed shots last night, but I thought otherwise he was having a great game out there. You don't see that deer in the headlights look from him quite as much now. I'm excited to watch him continue to grow throughout the season.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

He's shown more aggression the past 2 games than he had all season. Made some meaningful offensive attempts. I wonder if it's a result of Buzz getting to him, or him being frustrated from his previous performances. That being said, I thought this was the only ACC opponent so far that didn't have a line-up or bench full of bigs to completely dominate us in the paint. Either way, I like the direction Satch is going.

Get ready: Pitt — who the Hokies play on Tuesday evening — might be a shorter team than Tech, top-to-bottom. Satch could have a breakout game against a bunch of puny little panthers...

This was such a trap game. Obviously, the Hokies got caught looking ahead to the UVa game on Sunday.

Leonard. Duh.

Notre Dame is VERY good. So the way this game turned out shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.

I hope the team continues to keep their heads up high and not get too discouraged. They really do give 100% on the court, which is a far cry from team's of the past few years. The talent level and depth just isn't there yet.

Hopefully we can hang with UVA for a bit on Sunday and make it interesting!

Is there any word on if and when I. Ford is going to start playing with the team?

Word is he is unlikely to join the team this season. #Sources

damn it..why the hell is he not playing? Anyone see his high school highlight tape? We could use this guy now. There's a reason rick pitino wanted him to play at Louisville. This is maddening.

T_Sprad3

I don't think it is anything to get mad about. Ford was a standout freshman receiver and has a big future on the gridiron. While we don't fully understand what impact he could/would make on the hardcourt, I can't say that I blame him if he chooses not to play basketball in the near term. Plus, I would much rather see this young team continue to develop and gel as a unit, giving minutes to full-season players.

As you referenced, it really does not make a lot of sense to bring in part time players who you know will not be a part of the future of the program. We've all heard all about how Ford wanted to do both sports when he was recruited, & that Frank Beamer & James Johnson were both fine with Ford being a full time football player & a part time basketball player. The thing is, though, we have a very different situation with the basketball team. We now have a head coach who is extremely successful on a P5 level, and who is trying to resurrect a basketball program from the ashes that were the past few seasons.

I posted on here multiple times that Buzz would not be keen about someone coming in at the last half of the season to play basketball as a hobby, that Ford would ultimately not play hoops, and was informed how wrong that take was. The thing is, though, anyone who watched the tapes or bothered enough about Hokie basketball to know of Buzz's Boot Camp would have understood exactly what I meant. Buzz requires full commitment. Just ask JVZ, or any of the other players from the previous regime who evacuated quickly. I'm not claiming Buzz told Ford to stay away, but it is possible Buzz sat down with Ford & asked about his commitment level. Which is exactly what every D1 head coach would have done.

It's also possible that the football coaches talked with Ford & reminded him what his potential NFL future might be. If he only focused on football twelve months a year and stopped thinking about dabbling in basketball. It's just as easily possible that Ford investigated Buzz's practices, talked with Buzz & was welcomed, but decided he didn't want to do the work for the limited amount of play it was obvious he would earn. Note I said - earn.

The truth is now the same as it was in September. We are overloaded in the backcourt where Ford would be trying to earn playing time. He would be starting out months behind everyone else in trying to learn the system. Everyone knows his focus is football. Johnson was willing to agree to anything because his job status was so shaky. Buzz is serious about building a real basketball program and part time players indulging an urge for a hobby don't fit that culture.

My wife was laughing at me because after the missed dunk I'm in my recliner just

Oh and hey look! UVA held GT to 28 last night!

"That kid you're talking to right there, I think he played his nuts off! And you can quote me on that shit!" -Bud Foster

Don't worry, Bibbs will score 30 all by himself.

we need Bibbs back in a major way

"That kid you're talking to right there, I think he played his nuts off! And you can quote me on that shit!" -Bud Foster

i was sitting courtside lastnite and my takeaway on satch is this. His feet are slow, hes a little tentative, and needs some footwork help BUT.. he has a lot of talent and he showed it in spurts lastnite. He has good touch for a big man, he has good instincts, and wants the ball. Hes far ahead of where most our centers are at this point. Id look for a big improvement next season. cant wait.

"I don't know what a Hokie is, but God is one of them." - Lee Corso

By his junior season, Satch will be a defensive force for us, and solid on an offense that caters to backcourt & wing players. I can see him being a defensive stopper & giving us 8&8 by his junior/senior seasons.

The theme for the ACC this year is "You better enjoy the shit out of beating up on the Hokies. We will get this thing out of the ditch, and then y'all are ALL in trouble."

I'm old enough to remember Coach K and Duke being the doormat of the league in the early 80's during his first season or two.

Leonard. Duh.

My brothers suitemates at UNC were talking about that when I was there last weekend. They know we'll be a force soon enough and to enjoy the current steamrolling.

Outside it's night time, but inside it's LeDay

Few thoughts: Devin did a good job taking it to the basket and finishing last night, something I enjoyed watching. Also, I want hill and Hudson taking it to the basket more from us, if nothing else I think I'm most confident in these two shooting foul shots over anyone else (except bibbs). I really hope Hudson cleans up his game a bit and continues to improve cause he has stud potential by his junior year.

Race to 10 wins update:
http://www.thekeyplay.com/comment/211198#comment-211198
Lakers: 12-31
76ers : 8-34
Hokies: 8-10
Knicks: 7-36

I just wanted to needle Brian. Take this as a reminder that preseason predictions are dumb

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