
It was a rain-soaked and dreary National Signing Day in Blacksburg, providing just the right sort of backdrop for a day that delivered little in the way of unexpected good news for the Hokies.
Justin Fuente and company were working with the inherent disadvantage of limited time on the recruiting trail to sell their new vision of the program, but that doesn't mean that the staff wasn't hopeful for a few more fireworks when they fired up the fax machines Wednesday morning.
Fuente called it a "relatively easy and stress-free day" at his signing day press conference, but that characterization belies some of the disappointment fans will be feeling as they examine the team's list of 21 commitments. The new head Hokie noted that he was pleased that "everything that was supposed to happen, did happen" on the day, a description that hints at the undercurrent running just beneath Fuente's efforts to trumpet the members of the class as best he could.
"It's a start, it's the foundation of what we're building," Fuente said. "It's a great first step in the next generation of Virginia Tech football."
While the Hokies were successful in adding two late commitments on the day — ATH Tyree Rodgers of Cherry Hill, N.J.'s Camden Catholic HS and LB Eron Carter of Palatka (Fla.) HS both signed their letters of intent Wednesday after visiting Tech last weekend — they found little success with the rest of the prospects waiting to make their decisions.
DE JaQuan Bailey of Jacksonsville, Fla.'s Raines HS was among the more painful misses for Fuente's staff, as he chose to pair up with his brother and head to Iowa State, even though he's fresh off a visit to Blacksburg that he seemingly enjoyed quite a bit.
The Hokies also failed to flip any of the committed prospects they were targeting. OLB Dominique Ross of Jacksonville's Trinity Christian Academy and DE Tomon Fox of Suwanee, Ga.'s Collins Hill HS both chose to honor their UNC pledges after Tech visits last weekend, while LB Chase Pine of Williamsburg's Lafayette HS stuck with Pitt, CB Coney Durr of Geismar, La.'s Dutchtown HS honored his Minnesota pledge, and WR Rick Wells of Raines HS stayed with Florida.
Similarly, the other players to join Wells and visit Tech in the middle of last week went elsewhere — ATH Tyrrell Pigrome of Pinson, Ala.'s Clay-Chalkville HS signed with Maryland, while OG Dylan Powell of Hannibal (Mo.) HS headed out to Stanford.
Unsurprisingly, Fuente and his coordinators didn't address those misfires, focusing instead on the positive aspects of the class.
Fuente mentioned repeatedly how happy he was with the nine early enrollees the Hokies have been working with for the last month, and he said securing their commitments was a key first step as his staff tried to hit the ground running.
"We basically divided this up into two separate classes," Fuente said. "When we got here, it didn't take us long to figure out that we had some immediate needs, in terms of midterm kids, high school kids that had graduated early, we needed to reach out them because their decision was coming on an accelerated time table, so we addressed those needs."
A key part of the early enrollee group are the three receivers to jump on board in January, especially given the team's dearth of depth at the position.
Samuel Denmark, Eric Kumah and Divine Deablo (along with summer enrollee Phil Patterson) will all have the opportunity to compete for playing time quickly, with little depth behind Isaiah Ford and Cam Phillips.
"At wide receiver, we're not incredibly deep right now," Fuente said. "We only have two guys with a lot of reps last year, and we'd like to play a bunch of guys. With the tempo we run, I don't know how much or how little of that we'll be able to do or how fast these guys will come along. But it's big for them to be here in the spring to get a handle on what's going on, where they're lining up, all those sorts of things."
But even with so many receivers in the class already, Fuente confessed that the team still has room for more pass catchers down the line.
"We have some room to reach our goal number, but I was a little hesitant to get too many of those guys in one class," Fuente said. "If you're not careful, three or four years from now, you're gonna find yourself in the exact same situation when it comes to class dispersion. We wanted to be sure to spread those guys out."
Offensive coordinator Brad Cornelsen said that goal Fuente alluded to is probably "10 to 12" receivers in total, but he added that the team will be looking to some of the other young WRs on the team before they throw the freshmen into the fire.
"Those guys get taxed the most when we're up-tempo and do the most running," Cornelsen said. "You're looking for five, but we've got numbers set for each position, but it's not exact, very rarely is it right on the mark."
Finding a quarterback to throw to those aforementioned receivers will be a key process for the new staff in the spring, and with two coming on board in this class in Josh Jackson and junior college product Jerod Evans, the Hokies will not lack for options.
"It's not just when we get to scrimmages or in spring ball, they're being evaluated every single day," Cornelsen said. "It's an ongoing process, because there aren't enough reps to go around. You can't get every single one of those guys as many reps as you want, so it's going to be an evolving depth chart. Ideally, a guy clearly emerges early. You get him going and get him the most reps, but it will be a fun spring, and I anticipate a number of guys will be in the mix for a long time."
With up to five quarterbacks to consider, counting Dwayne Lawson, Brenden Motley and Chris Durkin (if he hasn't made the move to TE permanently), Cornelsen admits that the team will have plenty of evaluating to do. But he added that there's "never too many quarterbacks," particularly as he works with Fuente to install an offense that will look substantially different from Scot Loeffler's scheme.
"Most concepts that we've been running will be things that we've installed, and some of those are similar to what they've been doing here," Cornelsen said. "It's hard to really pinpoint the exact direction that you're gonna go until you know exactly what you have."
Bud Foster won't have to do quite the same scheme recalibrations, but with several starters departing, he may have to look to some of the players signed Wednesday to contribute more quickly than he might like.
In particular, he'll need to do some serious evaluations on the defensive line, with the loss of three long-time starters. While there's plenty of depth at DT, DE is notoriously thin after Ken Ekanem.
On the team's signing day webcast, DEs coach Charley Wiles hinted that early-enrolled DE Jimmie Taylor would get the chance to earn some playing time sooner rather than later, and Foster echoed those comments, particularly when considering that backup DE Seth Dooley will miss spring practice with a shoulder injury.
"There's gonna be four young guys playing for the first time and getting quality reps this spring and learning every day and growing every day," Foster said. "I'm excited about what Jimmie's gonna bring to the table. I'm excited about what the other guys are gonna bring to the table. They're athletic. They're working hard right now. We're gonna have to grow up in a hurry at that position. That's been a playmaking spot for us over the years."
The graduation of Luther Maddy and Corey Marshall means that there will be work to be done at DT as well, and though there are players with more experience on the depth chart, Foster pointed to DT signee Jarrod Hewitt as a player that combines Maddy and Marshall's best qualities with potential to push for playing time quickly as well.
"He's twitchy," Foster said. "He reminds me a lot of Luther in a lot of his quickness and explosiveness."
With a pair of starters to replace at linebacker, Foster also said that the three players the Hokies signed at that position (Carter, Emmanuel Belmar and Tavante Beckett) will be important to building out the depth chart too.
"I like their diversity as far as athletic ability," Foster said. "I like their intelligence as far as their football IQ."
While Foster can point to an even distribution among the defensive recruits — with four DB signees, three at LB and two on the defensive line — Fuente admitted that he'd like to see more of an even spread on the offensive side of the ball going forward. Without a single running back or tight end in the class, Fuente said the staff has already identified that as an area of improvement looking ahead to 2017.
"We're hoping to sign a little bit of everything," Fuente said. "Hopefully we'll be back with tight end and running back, on the offensive side of the ball. We don't have a particularly large class this year, we only have 10 seniors, so it won't be an incredibly large class, though I'm sure we'll have some attrition, every program does. Hopefully our numbers will be a little more balanced, we can balance it out a bit more."
As Fuente looks to put his own stamp on the program, it's unsurprising that he identified in-state recruiting as a prime area of improvement going forward. He believes the new staff has already made "headway" in forming relationships with Virginia's high school coaches, and as Fuente looks to avoid other, similarly disappointing signing days in the future, he'll likely put a premium on deepening his in-state ties.
"I think high school coaches across the state appreciate the way we handled our business through this signing period," Fuente said. "We'll continue to develop that. We'll do things to reach out to them throughout the spring to make sure we're accessible so we can develop those relationships. I do think they appreciate the way we handle recruiting, but you can always get better."

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A lot of positives in this. Some negatives are hard to swallow but again Fuente was spending just as much time locking down new commits as he was maintaining the older ones.
I'll be extremely interested to see how 2017 plays out since we've already heard good rumblings from coaches in VA about Fuente and we have a few top recruits keeping us in their sights. The fact of the matter is this was a 7-6 program that saw their long time legend of a coach leave and not even Hokie fans were sure of who or what was going to happen. With the dust settled if we can even marginally improve from last year and show signs of life I bet we can turn some heads and land the guys we want.
I think we are going to have to really adapt our expectations for everything in the wake of this essentially brand new program. Everyone is excited about Fuente, but we need to wait to see what actually happens with it all. I'm content with this class, I think it addressed at least some of our pressing needs at QB and WR even if we did miss on some LBs. I think 2017 will give us a much better idea about that this program is turning in to under Fuente.
Although I expect some improvement to our record, even marginally, more than anything I expect to see more big plays (and the big bust plays that go with them). I'd expect both passing TD's and Interceptions to go up this year.
It's all going to come down to QB play, if we get good QB play 8+ wins is not unreasonable.
I think one of the biggest things here is the point you made about:
>I think we are going to have to really adapt our expectations for everything in the wake of this essentially brand new program.
Here's the deal. We're going up against historically good programs. I think we forget that some of these schools we're going up against have a much longer and trophied history than us. That isn't to say VT isn't good enough, I just feel we (myself included) let the love of VT overstep realistic expectations. That doesn't mean we can't land blue chips or have nothing to sell... we just need to keep it in perspective sometimes. This was a REALLY tough spot to sell and even we are unsure of what is going to happen so try to imagine what it's like being a 17 year old kid trying to pick a spot for your future and a program that has a brand new coach coming off a 7-6 season... again offers you and there's a handful of weeks left to sign.
With a year to start building what he wants Fuente is AGGRESSIVELY going after 757 talent, added a TON of recruiting staff and it couldn't come at a better time. This doesn't guarantee next year to be a top 25 class but we should definitely look forward to what our new staff will bring to the table.
I completely agree to looking forward to it. I wasn't trying to say we should lower expectations, just try to be realistic about what is really happening at VT. I think its good and am a little disconcerted by some of the negativity today.
I understand why folks are being negative. They want VT to be a great team again. They want to be a national championship caliber team and be that immediately. I think everyone here wants that for Tech but it isn't going to happen overnight. Some people only look at what is happening at the surface and make their judgements from that. There are a lot of things to look forward to from Hokie football so lets all be as optimistic as possible about the future. It is a game after all so I try to make it fun as possible and enjoy it.
I agree, this is a time for optimism. We have a new coach who is probably very good, a bunch of new guys who wanted to be Hokies more than anything else, and established talent on both sides of the ball. I think we are in a pretty good spot.
I think you've made a good point that many may not be considering in that Fuente and staff didn't just have to recruit new guys, they had to go re-recruit all the committed guys as well, particularly on the offensive side of the ball. I think the fact that we kept so many of Beamer's commitments is more impactful than the guys we weren't able to flip.
Very good point. If the new uniform release looks sweet and we turn in a good season with one of the better young up-and-coming coaches in the nation, the hype train will start rolling and the recruits come with that. The young coach and decent results will be the primary factor but the uniform release couldn't come at a better time. It is literally a new chapter in all ways.
Fuente inherits a better team at Virginia Tech than he did at Memphis. This recruiting class is better than any recruiting class he ever had at Memphis. I am already ecstatic because stars mean nothing when it comes to under evaluated or unranked kids (I know in some cases they are pretty valuable though haha)! We lost to ECU last year, Arkansas lost to Toledo, FSU lost to Houston, and Temple almost beat Notre Dame. The coaches from the AAC clearly knew what they were doing and how to do more with less. In my opinion Memphis should have beaten Houston, but they played them closer than FSU did. If our classes are in the 40's or below from now on but we are in the top 25 then I do not care about a stupid star. I realize Fuller lived up to his 5 star calling but not all 5 stars do. I really love recruits from Georgia and Florida, and really anywhere from VA to South of here. Most of Memphis' players were N/R, 2 star, and a few 3 stars under Fuente with no 5 stars and barely if any 4 stars (I haven't done the research but do not feel the need to) and that team lost by 1 point to Houson 34-35. FSU with so many ESPN 300 5 and 4 stars lost to Houston 24-38. If we could consistently beat FSU, Clemson, Miami, and others with N/R, 2 star, and 3 star players that would make the victory so much sweeter imho. But I do love getting big time recruits and over the next few years as the team wins more games and relationships improve we will be there. I am just glad that Wolfolk and Pride are the only 2 players we lost since Fuente became coach because it could have been a lot worse.
There is a major difference in recruiting ratings today than there was 5-10 years ago when we were winning 10 games a year with 2-3 star recruits. In this day and age, it is nearly impossible for recruits to slide under the radar with how accessible highlight tapes have become. A reason we could win with those 2 and 3 star guys is because not enough schools had seen them play. Nowadays, every school sees just about every player in their particular region due to sites like HUDL, and others. So recruits are rated much more accurately than they were in the past. A 2/3 star today is less likely to be successful than a 2/3 star 5-10 years ago.
I think this is a valid point that I hadn't considered before. How many 2/3 star guys did we pull who may have been 4+ if they had more coverage? Was Beamer up-coaching some 2/3s (yes) but was he also letting some 4s live up to their potential (also yes)? With much more accurate analysis these days it does become imperative to grab those highly ranked recruiting classes because as someone else pointed out they do tend to translate into success. All that being said I think Fuente and staff did a great job. We knew this year would be tough.
Memphis just beat an Ole Miss team last year with a "weak recruit" squad. Ole Miss beat Alabama. Until we see how these guys develop we cannot judge them on anything, really same goes for the coaches as well.
It's been mentioned before, we need to improve our record and play an exciting brand of football and recruiting will get better. We need at least 8 or 9 wins next year which means we can't lose to the ECU's on our schedule and upset one or two teams.
Watching some corners of Hokie Twitter was rough today
(Justin Fuente on Chopped)
TED ALLEN: ... oh and by the way, Justin, you cannot use the pantry...
FUENTE: wait.. but-
ALLEN: ... and you have only 3 minutes. GO!
[fans boo Fuente]
Chopped is an awesome show.
I saw a conversation on Twitter today between to Tech fans claiming that just like Chip Kelly and the Eagles Whit and Fuente will be run out of town in 3 years.
It hurt my head to read.
Well, we've done a lot more, with a lot less...
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Oh I've been fine, but some people act like they want Fuente and Foster fired after this recruiting class. Like it was going to be top 25 after our past 4 seasons and coaching changes...
I don't know any reasonable people that think that. I do know people who think that, though.
Agreed 100%. This is a long and difficult road ahead. It may actually get worse before it gets better. Duke was hopeless when Cutcliffe came around and now their recruiting classes have improved each year. I'd like to see what Fuente and Foster can do with a full year of recruiting.
I think we're taking a lot for granted with this class. We're all pissed because we didn't FLIP guys? Yeesh. This class wasn't outstanding on paper to begin with, did we really expect to turn it into a top 20 class in 1.5 months? Also, if you notice, after about the 25th ranked class or so (which is typical to where we are)....all the way up to where we are today, there really isn't much of a dropoff.
No doubt I would feel more excited if we had three more 4* players signed, and 247 would bump us up significantly, the reality is, it probably wouldn't have that much of an impact on the quality of this program in 3 years.
We got FOUR offensive linemen. That used to be a pretty big effing problem on this team.
We got one of THE Best QB's of the 2016 class and another great prospect to boot.
Ladler? Welcome to DBU, brother.
Deablo? We got a guy named DIVINE DEABLO! (and he's 6'3")
Something says to me that the early enrollment cannibalized some of the excitement of today. We got some great kids and we should be happy to have secured the overwhelming majority of kids that originally committed to us. JF seems like a great guy and a great coach and I have no doubt that he will have us back to landing nationally recognized recruits someday soon.
I 100% agree, I think were on the same wave-length.
We really didnt miss out on that many kids who Fuente had a chance to come in and recruit.
JaQuan Bailey was a hit, but he went to play with his brother, we couldnt afford to offer him a scholarship too, that one doesnt seem to sting as bad.
We still picked up 3 of the top 10 in state kids. Honestly, I feel like, we had a really legitimate shot at Yulee but he didnt qualify academically, I dont know if that gets a knock on the coaching staff.
And Fuente came in and added much needed depth in areas where we really needed it, and the NUMBER 1 JUCO QUARTERBACK. I feel like people just wanted something to be mad about, we offered kids late who were already committed; they dont flip and its all of a sudden, new staff cant recruit...come ' on. Its like offering a kid ON signing day and then being mad he doesnt choose us? Pine? Pine was committed to Pitt since June. Maybe its a fault we didnt really push for some of them until late.
I think next year and 2018 are when we can start holding the staff 'accountable'. All I can say is Im really excited for the spring game and Im excited to see who they bring in to replace Gray.
This recruiting class is fine and for the most part, the way they rank these high school kids today with the star system is bogus. Everyone should look and see where those 5 star recruits ended their career and you will see it just doesn't matter. J.J. Watt, Russell Wilson and Cam Chancellor were 2 star recruits. It is more about the development while you are at school than the stars before you get there.
There are misevaluations, but most of those guys were a long time ago when there wasn't nearly as much coverage as there is today. Look at the teams winning national titles and look at their recruiting rankings the previous 4 years. It isn't just a theory it's a fact that there is a correlation between recruiting rankings and teams winning it all.
Also the likelihood of a 5 star getting drafted is higher, than a 4 star, 3 star, 2 star and so on. Do plenty of 2 and 3 stars get drafted? Absolutely, but there are also 100s if not 1000 more of each of them than there are 5 stars.
for every 2-3* success story there is easily 7-10 players that don't work out, where as with every 5* success, theres maybe 1-2 5*s that are unsuccessful; it's about improving your odds.
But in all this class is solid, we "fixed" wr depth, have a healthy QB competition, and added bodies for the OL/DL.
Um...I think Russell Wilson was much higher than a 2 star. I believe the storyline at the time was if we didn't get Tyrod, we would have taken Russell Wilson....
I could be wrong, but that's what I recall.
Going off of 24/7 composite, Tyrod and Wilson were night and day.
Tyrod:
http://247sports.com/Player/Tyrod-Taylor-24524?PlayerInstitution=39425
5* composite, #1 Dual QB, #1 player in VA, #17 nationally
Wilson:
http://247sports.com/Player/Russell-Wilson-13737?PlayerInstitution=3974
3* composite (and just barely at 0.7998, because 0.79 is 2*), #28 Dual QB, #37 player in VA, #1186 nationally
The only reason it was a dreary NSD was the rain. We had a good first class for Fuente. Much better than any class he had at Memphis. Give it another couple years and it will be considered to have been a great class! Think positively, dammit.
To steal info from another post- looking at offers, a lot of these guys were underrated IMHO. Not sure how guys like Denmark, Diablo, Moore, Kumah, Jimmie Taylor, etc are not 4* per Rivals. So, really could have been a class of seven 4* and three 3/4* out of 21.
Point being this is a much better class than at first glance. Just too much emphasis/ diappointment being placed on inability to 'flip' guys.
Evans - Missouri, Texas; #1 JC QB- 4*
Jackson- Boston College, Navy, Northwestern, Oregon State, Utah and West Virginia (#4 player in Mich)- High 3*
Moore OL- Auburn, Mississippi State, Georgia, Cincinnati 4*
Hoyt OL- BYU, Pittsburgh, Virginia
TJ Jackson OL- NC State
Kearns OL- California, Florida, Georgia Tech, Illinois, Kentucky, NC State, Syracuse- High 3/4*
Hopple OL- Pittsburgh, Virginia, Wake Forest, West Virginia
Dzansi OL- Temple, Hampton, Rhode Island (edit: Vice mentioned he is a slam dunk champion at Hylton and runs a 4.9)
Patterson WR- North Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Wake Forest- High 3/4*
Kumah WR- Kentucky, Maryland, Miami (Fla.), Tennessee- 4*
Diablo WR- Clemson, Florida, Georgia, Ohio State, South Carolina and Tennessee- 4*
Denmark WR- Clemson, North Carolina, Notre Dame, South Carolina and Virginia- 4*
Rodgers ATH- Temple, Rutgers, NC State, Old Dominion (#23 player in NJ)
Eron Carter LB- Air Force, Army, UCF (wrestler, track ath, 3.9 gpa)
Bellmar LB- Colorado State, Missouri, Syracuse, Virginia
Beckett LB- Maryland, Rutgers, East Carolina, Indiana, Wisconsin
Floyd DB- North Carolina, Wake Forest, and West Virginia High 3*
Ladler DB- Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Florida State- 4*
Quillen DB- Georgia, NC State High 3*
Taylor DE- Duke, ECU, Florida, Michigan, North Carolina, NC State, Tennessee- 4*
Hewitt DT- Purdue, Rutgers, Colorado State, Iowa State (2 time Fla 7A all-state)
It does seem strange that Bud seems to be pretty high on Eron Carter, but he was rated a 2*. I realize that 5* players are more likely to do well and get drafter and everything, but it seems like coaches evaluating players for their scheme is more important. I don't see this class as that poor if our coaches went out and got players that they wanted.
What could be a 2* for a traditional defense might very well be 4/5* in the Bud Foster system.
Carter was HEAVILY recruited by the service academies. Those type of guys are smart and have instinctual get after it tendencies. The academies go after these guys to primarily defend our country and have the ability to kick ass under extreme conditions (both physical and mental) that require a certain mental capability that most of us do not have - oh and they can play football also - sweet! These kind of guys bring an entirely new dynamic to the team - and all good teams need that.
JUCO QB Evans comes from a similar mold.
My guess, these guys will surprise us.
You make some good points, and we have a good track record of finding diamonds in the rough. All-American Pro Bowl CB Brandon Flowers was a 2 star, Kam Chancellor, etc. From what I have heard, Carter is a very powerful and instinctive linebacker but his downside is that he isn't particularly quick/fast, I can't confirm this because I haven't seen tape but I've seen some chatter. Luckily, at linebacker in any scheme, excellent instincts, reading keys, position, and a get after it attitude can make up for a lack of traditional speed/quickness.
you mention 2 players we got way back in the day when recruiting was not as crazy as it is now... these types of players are the Nnadi, Sweat, Hand, Wayne Davis and Laborn type players that are 4* and 5* kids now.
The days of finding gems are long gone for the most part so the idea that 2* kids will turn into a kam or brandon flowers is again the way you wind up 7-6 and in Shreveport.
it's nice we landed a lb who seems to fit this scheme but we all know a freshman lb actually learning the scheme is slim to none. Nothing's going to change this second but do we need to go after more 4* 5* kids yes, do I think we can land these 4* 5* kids we absolutely can.
No doubt there are fewer gems as the focus and sheer number of people/camps for evaluating recruits. I'm not saying it isn't important to step up our recruiting into landing more of these better prospects, merely offering a positive opinion on someone we have to work with in the meantime as we prepare to assemble the product on the field that will help us get those better recruits.
I see where youre coming from but I disagree on the premise slightly, the recruiting rankings may have gotten better. But kids develop at different times and ages, thats always going to be the case.
I said it before, recruiting rankings are solely where the kid is currently, right now against high school competition, which is a great measuring stick, no doubt. I feel like coaches have a greater incentive to establish and feel for where these kids might be 2-3, 4 years down the line. Recruiting rankings dont have that incentive to speculate where a kid MIGHT grow into, intangibles are not necessarily taken into account for kids who arent physically dominant in High School...
There will ALWAYS be gems, ALWAYS, I dont care how great the system becomes, the premise of 17-18 year old young men will always have late bloomers, kids who become different beasts with a college level weight program, kids who develop with improved coaching, kids who change positions and find their stride.