
Before we talk about the thing that everyone wants to talk about, it's important to look back on the only time in the last 20 years when a single decision altered the trajectory of the Virginia Tech athletic department for the better.
Want to guess what it was?
Pause here, I'll give you a second.
The only time the Hokies have completely improved their standing in modern college sports in the last two decades was when they hired Buzz Williams from Marquette in 2014.
It's hard to overstate what a bad place Virginia Tech men's basketball was in when Williams took the job. There was no talent on the roster, recruiting was somehow even worse. They were poorly coached, poorly funded and good for four-ish conference wins a year. I believe I once described the situation as if a tire fire was set within a dumpster fire, and that larger dumpster fire got pushed into a giant crater.
But Buzz gave the program instant credibility. It gave Virginia Tech basketball a nationally famous face. For the first time ever, the Hokie basketball coach was someone people outside the program actually knew, and wasn't notable just for the occasional March Madness interview when Tech fell outside the bubble. I'll always remember Buzz sitting on national TV during the tournament that year, wearing a maroon blazer and hamming it up like only he could. In fact, it reminded me of another nationally relevant coach on a broadly watched sports television show...
The fit wasn't perfect. In fact, you could argue that it was non-existent. Buzz was not an aw shucks, small town, humble member of the community. In fact, he went out of his way to distance himself from Tech as much as he could–he once told a gaggle of reporters before his second or third season that he still needed to use his GPS to get from his house to the facility, all but screaming I DON'T CARE TO LEARN ABOUT YOUR LITTLE TOWN.
Right away you started to hear the whispers about how Buzz was "particular". But if we're being honest, that's just passive aggressive southern speak for "asshole." He even went so far as to push out the longstanding office administrator for the program because he wanted to bring his own. He literally "retired" someone in the name of getting his building and his program to the exact specifications that he wanted it.
He built his rosters that way, he coached that way, and he eventually succeeded that way too. We would hear stories about Seth Greenberg raging against the administration for not moving fast enough to get (insert good player here) through the door–Alex Len is the first one that comes to mind. Buzz simply figured out ways to make it work.
To my point: how do you think Buzz convinced Chris Clarke — the number two player in the state and a central recruit early in Williams' tenure — to flip from Tennessee and known bag dropper Donnie Tyndall to Tech? Hmmm... I'm sure it was just through pure charisma and the power of the lord.
Williams got his way at all times. He rubbed people the wrong way, he built his program without giving a damn about the broader university and even got his hands dirty when necessary. He quite literally buzzsawed his way through Blacksburg.
Like Williams, James Franklin is not a "culture fit" at Virginia Tech. He doesn't have a tie to Frank Beamer or the good ole boy cabal that has steered the program for the last 10 years.
By all accounts he is demanding, occasionally difficult, and wears down administrators and university officials. There was a time where his name constantly surfaced for other jobs (always ending with an extension, of course.) He blasted the facilities when he first took started at Penn State, needling both donors and bosses for improvements, and even made noise about extending the runway at the State College airport for his team's west coast trips.
He pushes and pushes until he either gets what he wants or hits a breaking point. Two consecutive (and inexplicable) losses in a year they were supposed to make a run at the national title was apparently what broke his bosses at Penn State.
That October separation ended a 12-year tenure in which he won nine or more games seven times. A tenure where, had there been a 12-team field like there is now, he'd have made seven College Football Playoffs. I don't know about you, but I will gladly trade a decade of those results only to get fed up with the man because he set his own expectations too high.
Franklin is not the ambassador of the town. You probably won't see him tossing snowballs with students or glad handing with the locals over pizza and beer at PKs. He's a lunatic who will stop at nothing to improve the talent on his roster. He's not here to win hearts and minds, he's just here to win ballgames.
There are plenty of people who will point out the flaws. Franklin's dismal record against top-10 teams, or his penchant for tightening up in close games and blowing it down the stretch. Hell, Yahoo Sports' Dan Wolken must have had the blowtorch in his drafts, warning Tech fans to not take their victory lap just yet:
Franklin usually got the big stuff right. But on the margins, when a head coach is required to make consequential tactical decisions in the heat of battle, he was often quite bad and never got better.
But here's the thing, with respect to Mr. Wolken: Virginia Tech needs the big stuff. They need someone who can bully donors into giving more to NIL because he needs to flood the roster with talent. Or someone who will meticulously build a program that has lacked discipline and toughness since the last time they contended for the ACC. They need someone whose borderline-psychotic need to win can re-set the expectations of a fanbase that has seen their passion atrophy over the last decade.
This year I started working at a Richmond-based office, which means I chat with way more Hokies who are between 22 and 26 than I have in quite a while (read: I'm old now). And over the summer we were chatting about the Metallica concert at Lane Stadium, which a few of my non-geriatric counterparts took off work to attend. Each one of them said that the concert was the latest and longest they've ever stayed in Lane, despite attending the school for four-to-six football seasons.
The kids leave early because there hasn't been a culture–for at least a full class of young alumni and students–that encourages them to stay. They're used to watching Tech be out gunned on the field and outclassed on the scoreboard, and are in desperate need of someone or something to convince them to not go to Top of the Stairs at halftime.
The Hokies have been led by head coaches who either couldn't or wouldn't challenge the broader administration for the resources they need to succeed since at least 2010. Beamer tried to stick to the old ways until it was too late. Fuente faced too many Beamer loyalists to truly make the program in his image and Pry was hired, in large part, because he wouldn't. He was a "culture fit."
This is not to slam Brent Pry. There's no way Franklin takes this job without a thorough rundown of the ins and outs of the program from his former longtime defensive coordinator and friend. But Pry was specifically brought in because he was a "Beamer guy". Franklin is the perfect hire because he isn't at all.
Imagine Whit Babcock saying "weights weigh the same" to James mother-fucking Franklin. Imagine the university not providing the funding he asked for. Imagine the Hokie Club literally not having a functional leader while Franklin was in charge.
You can't imagine it, because it wouldn't happen.
The Hokies needed someone with the passion and bullheadedness to push right through whatever antiquated bones still make up the foundation of the Virginia Tech athletic department. Someone who won't let anything (or anyone) stand in the way of his football program. Someone with enough juice both on the trail and in the media to make Virginia Tech relevant in the last years before what is likely going to be a cataclysmic (and potentially final) round of conference realignment.
James Franklin doesn't fit a typical Virginia Tech hire at all. And that's what makes him the perfect fit.

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I'm not gonna say that I don't have my reservations, but Franklin is a high floor, question mark ceiling hire. He has the history to show he can walk the walk and in the ACC we have the conference where being on top is not nearly as difficult as the SEC or B1G.
Mr. Franklin, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, push out anyone who obstructs you and turn this football program back into the ACC Giant it was when we first joined.
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There are a lot of things going on in my life at the moment (I have financial monitoring responsibilities for my mother-in-law and my Mom, both of whom been hospitalized recently. My mother-in-law has dementia which adds to the load). All to say my plate is pretty full. I'll have to get back to this later.
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I never like Franklin at PSU because he stole are recruits and was kind of a jerk, but he was always the biggest asshole to some one when they went after his players. He always seem like he'd defend them to his dying breathe.
Even when he was a jerk it was often because some one was doing stupid shit, which I can understand.
Someone being a pest is always more tolerable when they're on your side.
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I'll have what he's having...
Hopium. It's a hell of a drug. Interestingly, I am way more hopeful now than I ever was for Pry. I was cautiously optimistic with Pry but each hire he made caused that optimism to dwindle.
I'm probably a year off on your predictions. I think we're still a 7-8 win team in 2026. There's a lot of change and a lot to be installed - likely filling a lot of gaps with portal players and I don't think we pick up the immediate depth we need to rattle off 10 wins. 2027 8-10 wins (and the full effect of Franklins recruiting in the 2027 class). I think we give the ACC a run in 2028+
Schedule is a little less of a cupcake next year also.
I've heard some national people say it's a relatively easy schedule next year, but I don't see it. It's full of competitive teams who will bury you if you don't play your A-game.
Shutdown Fullcast touched on the September part of our schedule next year and basically said, other than VMI week 1 (and maybe JMU depending on how their roster looks if Chesney leaves) it's teams that, if we were to go 3-1 or 4-0, tech would feel pretty good about it.
It includes September Maryland so that should count towards Franklin's big game record if we win that one lol
PSU fans say that Franklin capital-H HATES Maryland and would run up the score on them every chance he gets
I'm hoping we get that chance
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You know, that's what I meant. 😆 One of those days.
As my sainted mother dear used to say, "A slip of the tongue is no fault to the mind". Or ''You know what I meant, asshole". Depending on which side of happy hour it was.
Sandman and the lunch pail (only as a turnover reward, such as the stupid chain) should stay. Everything else is for a museum.
I understand the idea of wanting to see the lunch pail retired bc of the lack of blue collar mentality anymore, but it's an iconic symbol. Something that represents Virginia Tech football throughout the nation. No other school has a lunch pail (that I can think of at least). It is uniquely ours. I'd be sad to see it go. It'd be like getting rid of UGA's spiked pads.
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I can get behind this. If you block a punt here comes #25 next week. If you kick a game winning FG, or punt of the charts like 6 punts inside the 5 yard line, or big returns. Or if a gunner eliminated returns kind of thing.
I fucking hope we never punt 6 times in a single game....
Maybe it's just in one season.
And while I'd prefer not to see punts, "inside the 5 yard line" takes some of the sting out.
So, we'd win 10-0. Five safeties and no offensive points.
Not pretty, but a win is a win!
I've seen "no offense" before; hoping that changes LOL
I could get behind this.
We start winning and people will shut up about this stupid line of argument. Franklin doesn't steamroll tradition, if he did he would've put names on the back of PSU jerseys. #25 means something to the fanbase and should remain as long as it means something to the players. When we were winning everybody loved this.
We don't lose because of the #25. And keeping it won't prevent us from winning. Any argument that it does and it's a "relic" of the old guard is complete and utter nonsense.
ah logical reasoning. do we get to use that again now that we big dogs or do the black socks I was wearing when we last lost to the hoos still live at the back of the drawer?
WHY ARE THOSE SOCKS STILL IN YOUR HOUSE!?!? YOU SHOULD'VE BURNED THEM OR AT LEAST THROWN THEM AWAY
OH MY GOD.... you're right. I should have burned them right after! The butterfly effect... I have been the cause of all our misery!!!
but wait...
my socks brought VT football to its knees, forcing the BOV to act in a historic move, thus providing the long sought after budget to make big dog moves, that got us a big dog head whistle, that is flipping cruits like we've only watched happen against us and whom could single handedly change the course of VT football for generations and generations, maybe even.. one day... winning it all!!
I am actually the cause of it all! I got us James Franklin! Statues should be erected, stadiums renamed, my magical socks put on display behind a meter of plexiglass that 5 idiots can't steal with a scissor lift! I am the ultimate Hokie!!
wow.... the world is so much clearer now that I finally understand my true power. thank you. I'll remember you in my Noble prize winning speech because surely thats the obvious next accomplishment my socks shall give to the world.
I'd have no Hokie gear left if I got rid of every item of clothing worn during a loss over the last 10 years.....
Believe me, I've tried every superstitious combo I could think of, but unfortunately nothing worked consistently.
Looking forward to a reset and a new batch of superstitions!
They work until they don't, then you start a new one.
Well, I guess we can thank our new budget in part to you and merchandise revenue flowing from your wallet
And my wife! She's a VCU alum, but owns far more Hokie gear than I do!
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Members of the VT Athletic Dept don't quite realize the train that's coming.
Im all for it.
When people get upset when JC Price or Fontel Mines or Noah Chambers are let go, reference this article.
Things will be broken and feelings hurt. Big boy football.
Why would you want a true freshman who has shown flashes gone? Getting rid of the good ol' boy mentality and modernizing doesn't mean dogwalking talented players who come from high school football factories.
I don't think Mines is going anywhere. Franklin tried poaching him multiple times.
Last year, Mines was the 3rd best recruiter in the ACC per 247. Nobody on Penn State's staff, outside of their interim HC was a better recruiter.
In 2023 he was the 7th best. Seider, Smith, and Trautwine were higher rated for Penn State.
In 2020 and 2021 he was the 5th best recruiter in the AAC.
He's a proven recruiter wherever he goes.
But is he a great coach?
I just can't help but feel that the WR group hasn't progressed very well in recent years.
Then you have a couple options
1) deal with lack of WR improvement
2) Move him to TE because while our WRs dont run route we'll they block well and he was a TE coach before.
3) Hire a really good assistant WR coach that can focus on improving recievers
4) Get a decent QB who knows how to get the ball to them.
I would have preferred Dan Mullen, but the sell of Franklin was always this article. Modernize, win.
He's not Buzz though. I would expect him to go to the snowball fight. He'll embrace the community and the university. He'll be persistent and will butt heads to get what he wants, but by all accounts he's very likeable and gets what he wants by being both demanding and caring about people. Buzz was a weirdo, Franklin is just psychotic enough to be an elite football coach.
Yeah, but he was our weirdo.
Hopefully, Franklin is our elite football coach.
One thing I am particularly curious about is....
Franklin is absolutely meticulous in making sure you put forth your best impression at all times. He stressed during he presser about the need for our facilities to "look, smell, operate and feel" like those of a major program. So, you have to think that part of this could be a refresh a bit of our marketing and merchandising.
I wonder what new things might be in store for us today.
Can we start with the basketball jerseys that might be the laziest I have ever seen. Just a VT logo over a number. It's something my 7 yo would draw.
When you have he script Hokies jersey why would you wear anything else?
White - Script Hokies, fighting gobbler on the shorts
Gray - Orange "Virginia", number, Maroon "Tech"
Maroon - White "Virginia", number, Orange "Tech"
Orange - White "Virginia", number, Maroon "Tech"
Black - White "VT"
When does the Nike contract come up? Maybe with Franklin's weight, there is a chance we get a better deal?
I will say this.... Franklin is really honing in on the Corps unlike any other coach I've seen at VT since I was a student on at least basketball and football (Beamer, Stokes, Greenberg, Johnson, Buzz, Fuente, Young, Pry).
He might not fully be a Hokie, yet, but he damn sure is trying to learn real damn quick. And I'll say this, on its surface it is coming across much different than Buzz when he was first hired.
He impresses me as:
1) a guy who figures out things quickly, and
2) a guy who takes his job seriously, and
3) a guy who commits.
These are good traits.
I'm pretty sure Pry did get with the corps early including some pre daylight photos/videos with them. Franklin I think has shouted them out a touch more, but I do think Pry was doing the same/similar things at the start.
Agreed here, Pry was doing a lot of similar things. Franklin's focus on the Corps has Pry's fingerprints all over it. That was definitely a point of emphasis in their conversations about VT.
Nice! This is moving fast. And JMMF is letting others know he is gonna kick some butt and that whooping is coming from Blacksburg.
Loving this acronym for Franklin. This should be adopted by all TKPers.
I use that quote from the Ten Commandments all the time. Criminally underrated score in that film. It's age means it doesn't get the love it should.
Or as I would say "that quote from Metallica's 'Creeping Death'"