Cutting the cord. Best streaming options?

We are getting ready to 'cut the cord' and have been doing research on the various streaming options out there. I was wondering what everyone's experience was with online streaming (particularly with sports).

We had SlingTV a couple of years ago, but the streaming was atrocious so I'm not excited about going back. YoutubeTV seems to be the best bet based on the sports channels available, but again there are a number of options out there and the reviews are vastly different.

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I have SlingTV now (started a little more than a month ago) and I haven't had much problems with the stream. ESPN streaming was sometimes a little fuzzy but I just use the watchESPN app and the picture is always clear

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I have SlingTV as well and it's worked fine for me. Word of warning, I don't like its interface through my (really old) Roku. It's slow and can be frustrating to switch channels. I mostly just pull it up through the iPad app and send it to the tv with GoogleCast.

using sling for 3 weeks now. 1 roku, 2 fire sticks, 1 xbox. like the roku interface the best.

so far so good. changing between games is going to suck tho.

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I've got Sling, had it ever since someone from this forum recommended a free trial so I could watch one of those tech games that was only airing on ESPN3. When it's not football or basketball season, I dont use Sling much, i've thought about cancelling it during the offseason.

Here are a few thoughts.. Blackouts still exist regionally, there have been multiple times where I was unable to stream because of my geotag and local television rights. It's a big crock of horseshit if you ask me.. would be way too slow if I was using a VPN on top of this to mask my location.

I have multiple chrome casts, gen 1 and 2, these do not stream Sling very well, especially ESPN.

I have a Amazon firestick and that thing works great for Sling streams. I pay $25 a month and have all of the stuff I actually watch, less the local channels. I really miss the locals, mainly due to Football and news. The HD antenna doesn't get a lick of reception in my town.

I've also got Netflix, and I use that Firestick with the Kodi app and TV-Add-Ons to stream all the stuff I want.

Playstation vue. Had it for 2 weeks and will cancel after college fb season. Month to month is great, and it works great so far.

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Ditto, Vue was legit and affordable for the channels you get in my experience. I only cancelled because my roommates still wanted a cable sub

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I've used SlingTV and DirectvNow (free trial). Both were alright but killed my data usage set by my cable company. In the end I'm not sure that I'm coming out any cheaper than bundling my internet and tv.

The biggest problem I have is that even with a decent antenna, I can't pick up or stream ABC from Blacksburg. It's not a big deal until a game is on I want to watch like the West Virginia Game. So far I haven't found a stream that provides local channels from SW Virginia.

Now its really making sense why they are putting those data caps on home wifi.

Yeah, that was our major struggle when we tried this. With all of the TV we were streaming, plus my husband's online gaming habit, we kept getting slammed with data overages from Shentel, which negated the savings. Overall it just made sense to haggle with DirecTV (we placed the account on hold while we tried out all the options). When I threatened to cancel due to price, they offered me $50 a month off for a year....and I fully intend to do the exact same thing when that 12 months runs out.

While we were trying everything out though, Sling was terrible for us, but we had great success with Playstation Vue quality wise.

Assuming ESPN doesn't change anything with this upcoming season you can watch all the ABC games through WatchESPN. That is how I have done it with sling the past two seasons.

Can you watch them live? I seem to faintly recall having issues with doing this last season. When I tried to watch a game that was on ABC, it wouldn't let me. The next day I was able to watch it on the WatchESPN app, though. I'm not sure if that was a glitch, or if they have to wait 24 hours before making those available to stream.

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Yep no issues watching them live.

What internet provider do you have?

That is really illegal what they are doing. They can do that for phones, but not home internet as it violates net neutrality legislation.

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Nope, its not illegal.

What do you mean by "net neutrality legislation" btw? AFAIK there is no such legislation, just FCC rules. The only rule on data caps is "you have to tell your customers there is a data cap (if you have over 250k customers)".

Shentel and I don't think it's illegal but when it's the only internet option they can do what they want. $99 a month for 500GB a month.

Unfortunately the net neutrality legislation simply means that a company can't discriminate against a website, they can charge you for going over, just not out of the blue make TKP load slower than ESPN because ESPN pays them money.

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Is it football season yet?

I have sling, hulu and netflix. Saving about $40 a month over the cable package we had plus I can watch stuff anywhere so i am good with it the minor limitations of not having shows right away (I used to dvr anything anyway because most of what I watch is on past my bedtime). I did not have any of the movie channels (hbo, showtime, etc) before so I am behind on a shows like GOT and Ray Donovan until the new season comes out on Netflix but I am good with that. It is really what you are comfortable with.

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I actually just hopped back on the cable train yesterday. ...for football season.. I watch way too much football to reliably depend on streaming services.

YouTube is probably your best option.

I have tried out 3 of the streaming services: SlingTV, PS Vue and Hulu Live TV. One of my requirements for sports was CSN for Caps games (and occasionally VT basketball). Of the 3 services, Vue and Hulu both offer CSN.

I like having the normal Hulu service alongside Live TV but the interface is extremely confusing. They integrate both services together so you really don't know what is live. Vue has a traditional TV guide so it makes channel surfing much easier.

If you really only care about sports then Sling TV for $25 is your best value. If you want more than just sports than I would have to recommend Hulu over Sling just because you get the regular Hulu service included for the same cost ($40).

All the services offer a 1 week trial so just try out various options until you find the one you like best.

Sling also offers CSN

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I hope I am able to get the Caps games on CSN. My only fear (and maybe someone can confirm) is that I won't be able to because when I tried to watch the redskins preseason game last week, Sling didn't stream it

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I cut the cord in April and have used DirecTV Now since then. At first the streaming quality was terrible, and ever so often it would be unwatchable due to all the skipping/buffering. I was about to switch services but it seems that they've ironed out the problems last month because now it's flawless. And it looks pretty sharp too. I'm using Amazon Fire equipment (FireTV and Fire Stick) which were notorious for DTVN streaming, but I'm a happy camper with their service now. Took a while to get used to no DVR functionality, but I can stream most of the shows I miss using other external network apps or using their "Rewind" feature. And this week, DTVN just added the local ABC network live to the lineup, so I'll be able to watch whatever featured games are showing on there. Not sure if this is a regional thing (I live in Chesapeake) or nationwide.

Also, HBO for just $5 extra (which includes HBO Go) is pretty darn nice.

That's not totally accurate. I was able to watch the W&M game on YoutubeTV.

It was on "ACC Network Extra", which is free for anyone in the nation to stream regardless of TV package (unless it's blacked out in your area due to a local broadcast). It's a pretty confusing system for this season. But, I expect that it'll be right for at least most of the rest of the games.

After using all of the normal options, I went the alternative route. I've used XMBC/KODI for a good while, especially during football season. I've been using StreamRoyale (Superchillin) as of late.

Cutting the cable and ramping up the internet speed really worked out. Now the UCLA grad-housing has free cable so I'm just doing the regular internet, with good results.

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How's the quality? I used to use SportsDevil but found it increasingly difficult to get a quality stream.

I usually tried finding streams with Acestream which usually had pretty good quality. You can get the stand alone player for Windows/Linux or get the add-on for Kodi.

SopCast is an option too.

I've been using Roku with good results. Either that or I just cast from phone apps to the TV. Probably would have had better results last year, but my internet package wasn't very good (read: I was ripping internet with an extender from the main lobby of the building I live in). As I told my girlfriend, it's not stealing if it's already free in the lobby. Set up a new internet package this year, but now I have to convince the girlfriend to keep the 300+ mb download through football season.

I've used Sling for the last two years or so. Got it shortly after it came out. They had their growing pains but I've had no major issues for the last year or so. My only gripe is when I go to watch some sort of on-demand content I sometimes have to go force stop the app on my Fire TV and restart it. They also change the app every couple of months sometimes the tweaks are just minor but it annoys both the wife and I. Maybe we are just getting old.

If you are just looking for ESPN, they are probably the best deal, but if you want Fox channels I think Vue or Youtube might be cheaper.

DirecTV Now on Roku. Love the interface and haven't had any real issues. As an ATT unlimited choice wireless customer, I'm supposed to get $25 credit each month on what is only a $35 service. So assuming that happens, the price is hard to beat. Also have an OTA antenna for local stations (Raleigh/Durham area) as only ABC is live streamed on DTV Now.

Had SlingTV last year. It was OK. Was on the $20 plan and bumped it up $5 to add ESPNU at some point. I don't have ESPNU on DTV, so that may be an issue.

I can't watch ESPN on my Roku because they ask for my cable subscription account number, which I don't have because that's whole goddamn reason I cut the cord. ESPN is going to go down fighting to desperately cling on to that 2006 model that made them billions. It's whoever blinks first at this point, the millions leaving cable or the fat cat execs in Bristol CT. Screw ESPN.

Can you not subscribe to ESPN streaming, or is that not up and running yet?

I've had sling and PS Vue. PS Vue is way better. Highly recommend it.

I second this. I haven't had any other services, so can't comment on those.

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Get an antenna if you live in a major city. I get over 50 channels in Atlanta, at least half are HD. Won't work as well if you're not in a major city.

I also have an AppleTV, but right now, ROKU is the most popular between AppleTv, Amazon Firestick, Chromecast and ROKU.

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What kind of Antenna are you using?

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I'm about 12 miles from DC and I am using this antenna indoors and receive around 40 channels. The quality is great on the HD channels and I haven't had any issues with it. When I was looking for antennas, the recommendations were pretty much that the antenna doesn't matter as much as the location you are going to put it in. So no need to spend a lot on an antenna as long as you find a good spot to place it.

I just cut my tv service a few weeks ago and found this site really helpful, https://www.suppose.tv/tv. Figure out which channels you want to have and it will match you to the best streaming options.

Also, others have mentioned the free trials above and I will say that those are by far the best way to figure out which service is best for you. Just make sure you cancel on time. I tried Sling, PS Vue, Hulu, Youtube and DirectTV Now their free trials. Here are some things I learned through my experience with each (not a comprehensive list but the major pros/cons I noticed for each one):
-Sling TV had the best combination of channels that we needed - sports plus kids. It has the Viacom networks so it has Nick Jr to distract the kids. The one drawback is that you are limited to one stream on the Orange set of channels at a time. So I cannot watch ESPN while the kids watch Nick Jr. in another room. You can get around this by using either the Nick Jr. app or Watch ESPN app so it's a small inconvenience. You can get it through pretty much any internet connected device.
- I liked PS Vue app the most but it's DVR can only save programs for 28 days. It's an unlimited amount of shows though. It's an issue when kids ask for a specific episode of one of their shows and you cannot play it since PS deleted it. Also, doesn't have the Viacom channels - if it did, I would be using their service and just get over the time limit on the DVR. Obviously, it's not available on Xbox One but is on all of the other major devices.
-Hulu TV had the worst app out all of them. There wasn't a standard TV guide and the live tv channels were buried in the menus. My wife and I hated the way the app was set up. Available on most devices already with others coming soon (Roku and Samsung).
-DirecTV Now doesn't have a DVR so I cancelled it immediately. I've heard that they now have a beta DVR out but it's only accessible to certain customers (I think AT&T customers only).
-Youtube TV is only supported on a few devices. No Amazon Fire TV, Xbox One or Roku support so this was a disappointment for me (I've got one TV hooked up to a Fire TV box and another connected to Xbox).

The quality of the streaming has been great for all of the services. I think the largest factor for this is your ISP. I have Fios and I rarely have issues with internet. If your ISP is unreliable or routinely has drops in speed then you are going to be really frustrated with streaming. If you are going to have multiple streams at once, make sure you have enough bandwidth. The standard seems to be 5 mbps per stream unless you are streaming 4K content which needs 25 mbps per stream.

Im personally holding out for the Verizon Streaming service that should be coming out this year...once it comes out I'll debate on keeping Fios or switching.

Care to fill us in on this I didn't know Verizon was doing something like this?

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Still haven't seen an official announcement about it, but their CEO did mention something about their plans. Makes sense, considering that the other two major non-cable TV providers are introducing similar services (Dish with Sling, AT&T/DirecTV with DirecTV Now). A little late to the party, but certainly a way to leverage their large mobile market share by offering bundle discounts if they combine it with the streaming services.

I started the cord cutting with DirectTV Now because my wife and I have ATT and it was free streaming over the network. It was okay, lot of streaming issues at peak times and the guide was pretty crappy.

We switched over to Sling TV and it was pretty great, the new UI they released about a month ago is much better than it was when Sling first came out. I used Sling over FireStick and over Roku 4 and it worked really well. The only exception was during the NBA Finals. They just werent ready for that much traffic..it was incredibly frustrating because the picture would freeze and then the audio would keep going, then the the picture would jump ahead to catch up with the audio. Incredibly frustrating. The lack of local channels and blackouts for certain sporting events (games on WDCA and abc/cbs were either blacked out or not available in general). That sucked. Soooo we switched again to YouTubeTV, mainly to get local channels.

YouTubeTV has been pretty great so far. Got all the local channels and the unlimited cloud DVR is great. Only two downsides we've seen so far is that there are 1) certain things that are on but that you can only watch on tv, not on mobile (so you have to cast it to a Chromecast in order to watch) and 2) LOT of commercials. Especially on DVRd things. Sling and DirectTVNow had much fewer commercials both during live programming and on DVR.

So for right now, I'd say Sling and YouTubeTV are your best options. YouTubeTV is the clear choice if you need abc/cbs. If you can live without those channels I would give Sling a chance again.

I've been enjoying the quality of YouTube TV, because YouTube knows how to stream high quality video... but I haven't had it for a season yet so we'll see how many games I actually get on ESPN3. I'm ready to kick the Sling subscription back on as needed if I have to.

If you're reading the above post and thinking, "is this guy serious?!?," you can safely assume I'm not.

I must be a dinosaur. I already pay for Netflix, Amazon, and HBO on Amazon, but have kept Fios for the live sports. I watch everything. Soccer, Europeague basketball, baseball, football, hockey, etc, Should I keep FIOS for the football season, and trim back the rest? Strongly considering PS Vue, I just want my live sports. So far, it's cheaper right now to keep cable, and VZ has explained keeping just the internet will skyrocket my price, maybe a way for them to keep monetizing off cord cutting?

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I hear you. The only reason we haven't cut the cord is sports.

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I've been cord free for +4 years. Can honestly say we've never had a moment where we wished we had cable. In fact when we visit friends with cable it feels like we're going back in time. Why the heck are you guys paying $150-350 a month for this crap?

Monthly costs: Internet $40 per month, Netflix $8, occasional Amazon rental $5 for kids (damn paw patrols)...around $50-60 per month.

Fixed Costs: Roku stick $29 and HD antenna $25

We use HD antenna + Roku stick. Found it had the best flexibility. We're Amazon prime customers so get all the prime entertainment, which Apple wouldn't allow at the time. (not sure if they do now) Have a subscription to Netflix and "borrow" password for HBO GO and Watch ESPN.

Note: we're going to purchase the HBO pass and will buy ESPN once they offer. Feel like we need to support the business model we're encouraging by paying for a la carte these services.

They have tons of other channels, including sling TV.

I also use Chromecast for random sporting events I can only watch on the internet.

One callout is the HD antenna which is great for local news and basic cable. I don't watch American Ninja warrior or the voice, but my wife would die without it. The antenna was like $15 bucks and quality is damn good.

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H2okie03, I'm about to move to another place and will be cutting the cord. May I inquire where you get internet for $40 a month? thanks!

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It's a shame that to get internet at a reasonable price, you have to live at a property that has access to both cable and fiber. There was one place I lived where we didn't have access to fiber, and the best deal available was $70 for 25Mbps down and 5Mbps up through Comcast, while I knew someone less than a mile away who could pay $50/month for their choice of 50 down and 50 up on Fios or 50 down and 5 up on Comcast. Competition is a hell of a drug.

I could go on about this topic but I'm afraid it would quickly get political...

Yup. I'm close enough to a FiOS area to get the ads, not close enough for the service. It's brutal.

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I started Comcast at $39.99 and then bumped over to Verizon $39.99 for 50/50 mbps up and down.

I live in Summit, NJ about 40min outside NYC.

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Based on the info you provided, you really aren't accurately portraying your costs when you say $50-60 per month. The most obvious point being HBO and ESPN are two of the most expensive content providers so "borrowing" both of them is essentially reducing your costs by a minimum of $24/month (HBO NOW is already available and costs $15/month; the ESPN networks cost over $9/month thru cable providers). Also you stated you use Chromecast to watch random sporting events. Are these events freely streamed by the rights' owners or are these also "borrowed"?

The cost of most content has become fairly clear at this point. There are plenty of areas with limited provider options that lead to content becoming vastly overpriced but those people wouldn't have access to unlimited internet for $40 either.

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I've been considering this for a while now, my only hesitation is for football and basketball season...will I still be able to catch all the games I normally would?

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Yes, you should be able to watch the games. Do a little research first though - which which teams do you want to watch? Look at the link above that ohherro posted, it will help you with figuring out football. The streaming services have the ESPN channels (will also give you access to WatchESPN), Fox Sports and NBC Sports. An HD antenna will get you free access to OTA HD channels so you can get Sunday NFL games on NBC, FOX and CBS that way too. There is also CBS All Access which gives you NFL games and any college football and basketball games that they have.

I just cut back my subscription on Sling from both orange and blue to just blue.... The only reason I had orange was for the ESPN's but I now just use my parents log in info from their Fios account and use watchESPN. If you can get somebodies else's cable log in credentials, it is totally unnecessary to have Sling TV orange.

For some reason, the ESPN's streams kept going in and out between fuzzy and clear.... became extremely frustrating even with 300 mbps speed. The watchESPN app always gives me a clear picture and now I only pay $25/month (vs. $40) for cable.

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I cut Dish Network in May. They asked me why I was cancelling my contract and I lie to y'all not when I say I had to tell them five times because every time I told them I found a cheaper option they would say "I'm sorry you're breaking up." But it was fine whenever I said can you hear me now or I'd like to cancel my contract.

Regardless, we have Playstation Vue. Even with the recent price increase we are still saving $75/month (used that to buy me a sweet lawnmower) and I get ESPN/2/U, FS1/2, NBC Sports, Golf Channel, NFL Network, MLB Network, NBA TV, CSN, BTN, etc. I'll add the $10/month sports pack to get redzone too. I love it. The stream is always great. I use a FireTV with a wired connection to help. The DVR is excellent. I compared Sling, Vue, and DirecTV now and Vue seemed to be the best deal and when I first tried sling it was so buggy. Only thing I'm waiting for that *should* be coming after the price increase is more locals in the Roanoke Valley Area.

TLDR: Vue.

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My question to Sling TV users as I have only had sling for 2 months.... what do you do for sports on abc and cbs? do you still get all the games with watchESPN app since its still a espn broadcasts on abc? and what about cbs/sec games/afc games?

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ABC games are available through WatchESPN.

CBS games I was able to get through the CBS Sports App. The games actually on CBS (Both SEC and AFC) didn't require a login, but the games on CBS Sports did require a login.

This of course is all based on last season, so it could be different this season. It wouldn't surprise me if CBS goes the way of Fox and starts requiring a login for everything.

Does Fox require a login for things broadcast over the air? I could have sworn that I just streamed a USA soccer game a few weeks ago without having to login.

I know had to login (using my parents comcast login) either for NFL games or BIG Ten games last year that were OTA broadcasts, but it could have changed since then.

Need to get my antenna up and working so I don't have to worry about OTA games any more.

Since my parents get the DC stations and I get the Richmond stations, I tried to use their cable credentials to get one of the NFL games that was being shown up there but not here.

It didn't work for some reason on their end, but that means that they use the login to determine which game to send you.

I had forgotten that part, but I assume that national broadcasts are still free for anybody in the US.

I cut my cord last year. I just go to the bar. I think it is actually significantly more expensive.

I never thought of it that way. A couple of drinks at the bar plus some food a few times a year is way less than $100 a month for a year, though I suppose that depends on your drinking/spending habits.

To be clear I cut the cord the years ago, just always felt like the bar was expensive as well.

A few years ago I was living in Chicago, and as a Steelers fan I didn't get many games out there. I probably spent over $200 on food and drinks during the season watching games at the bar. The next year I signed up for DirecTV so I could get Sunday Ticket for free for 2 years.

I've experienced similar cost issues with the bar. But then I remembered I also occasionally watched games at the bar when I had the cord. So, I will call that a wash.

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Before you pick a service make sure you have QoS enabled (if available) for your wireless router. A lot of times bad streaming is actually due to buffer bloat.

Y'all can downvote me if you want but im about to speak that dam truth:

You aren't legitimately a cord cutter if you use someone else's Comcast login to stream ESPN. You're just a bum who is taking advantage of a temporary loophole and someone else's subscription payment.

Signed: a bum who is taking advantage of a temporary loophole and someone else's subscription payment.

In all seriousness, I made my own antenna for $5 and only ever watch football on the networks. Stream ESPN with a friend's login for other games or just listen to John and Mike.

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bum here as well! lol

in today's word of charging people out the ass, if you can get a loophole to save you money, I applaud you... and give me your secrets :)

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Can you post a picture of said antenna?

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Is it football season yet?

No I can't because I ain't crawling back up into my attic :-P.

Basically this. Except I used some extra 14 gauge copper I had lying around and sandwiched it between some 1/8" lexan from the dumpster at work. I only paid for the transformer/coaxial converter. Also, I didn't put a reflector on the back because I have stations coming from east and west and that would have made it unidirectional.

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Semi related. Any chance there's a way a guy (and his wife) can stream games online for free from Uganda.... Asking for a friend

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Check out the CFBstreams and NFLstreams subreddits. Also, learn to use Kodi. While not necessary, it's even better with the Acestream or SopCast addons. Youtube and a bit of Googling should set you up pretty well. I spent 6 years serving overseas and these methods were a lifesaver.

My prediction: In 10 years, folks are going to pine for the days before cord cutting. All cord cutting is doing is providing opportunities for new entrants to ultimately give you less for more.

What you mean to say is that cord cutting is allowing for innovation and competition to enter the Content Provider market. At least for the time being, most of what is available is "less for less", but if you want everything that's available then of course you're paying more overall.

It will be telling what the landscape will look like once things start settling out over the next 5-10 years.

I'm hoping that eventually, they'll break the cable company cabal, and we can order what we want.

Right now I feel like I support a lot of channels so I can get the handful I actually watch, in addition to Netflix and Amazon Prime.

ISP, cable, what's the dif? Accessing Internet should be free.

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I am so jealous of all you non-Comcast people, that's all I have to say.

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Being someone forced to use Time Warner, I am so jealous of all you Comcast people. Just not nearly as much as I am of those who have escaped Big Cable as a whole.

the difference between comcast and cox in negligible. Slightly better customer service for Cox but pricing might even be a little higher.

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If you're actually paying for it, isn't cord cutting getting to the point where it's actually more expensive than a cable subscription, especially to find a reliable service. I just grab my parents log in for their Dish because they didn't even know you could stream things like that and I hate seeing valuable device logins go to waste, but just moved places and we were having the "cord cutting" discussion. Once you add on all the goodies (HBO, Netflix, Sunday Ticket ect), doesn't it rival if not exceed that of cable bundles where with a little persistence on the phone you can get that stuff at no added cost?

Always choose joy.

To be fair, HBO and Sunday Ticket are both addons to a typical package anyway. If you're talking about people that have Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu, and SlingTV, then I have no idea why they are the way they are. I mean, we have Prime for the numerous benefits it offers, and we share a 4-stream Netflix subscription with the in-laws, but Hulu becomes almost completely redundant.

There's also the argument that you can always sign up for a month at a time, and rotate subscriptions as you need, as long as you don't care about being a month or two behind on some of the new releases.

I get what your saying. I balk at some of higher end streaming packages that some companies offer.

One thing to keep in mind when factoring the costs is what the person already has in addition to the cable/sat subscription. A lot of people cutting the cord already have Netflix, Amazon Prime etc. That was actually the primary driver of me dropping the cable subscription. We spent a lot more time watching Netflix and Prime than cable, but we were paying a hell of a lot more per month for cable. I dropped cable for the base sling (orange) package. It has most of the channels the wife and I frequently watch, but it only costs $20 vs $60+ for cable. There are a few channels I miss like Discovery and Fx. But those alone aren't worth the cost. A lot of the FX shows end up on Netflix or Prime anyways.

Even if someone goes for one of the more expenive streaming packages they may still come out ahead. One of the bigger cost savings can come in the equipment and fees section of the bill. If you have 3+ TVs in the house that can add up pretty quickly with a cable/sat subscription. Even if you have to say buy 3 streaming devices at $100 (you can get them for much cheaper than that though) a pop you already probably coming out ahead after 1-2 years. Many cord cutters likely already own at least a couple streaming devices anyways.

Bumping this because in the last couple of weeks there's been some new markets added to YouTube TV including the Roanoke-Lynchburg market and I wanted to see if anyone was jumping ship. I'm on Vue right now and as much as I love the UI and quality it's more expensive for less locals. I didn't mind the price bump since it was supposed to get me more locals but it's been 5 months and still only WDBJ.

In the Roanoke-Lynchburg Market:

Vue has CBS only.
DirecTV Now has CBS, ABC, and NBC
Hulu Live has CBS and Fox
YouTube TV has NBC, ABC, and Fox

Since YouTube TV typically launches when most of their locals are avaliable in the market, I'm confident they will get CBS soon especially considering they have deals with every other service. If they had HGTV and DIY it'd be perfect, though it's not a huge need for me.

Though it's a difficult decision, I love having the ability to switch like this at will. It's so refreshing.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

nah, as soon as I make the jump, Shentel will throttle the hell out of YouTube or charge me extra to stream or something [DUCKS]

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*Shittel.

That's who I've got. The data cap hit me hard this football season but that was because my Xbox downloaded big patches for the X1X stuff.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

I have had YouTube tv since the start of the football season. It's amazing because I can record anything I want and I have unlimited space. Downside is the minute I travel out of market the major four won't air live events. Also whenever we played on the shitty ACC Network I couldn't find the game because it was on obscure local channel and blocked on the ESPN app. That being said YouTube tv is still worth it in my mind

Edit especially once they got an app for the Xbox one. The casting from my phone was getting really annoying

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

Why are locals so important to you? Can you not get the same channels by just using an antenna? I am guessing it is the convenience of having everything in one place?

I am not really a fan of the strategy of adding locals to the cord cutting packages and driving up the prices. I would rather them keep prices lower without locals. Then again I am using a Fire TV so my local channels are all included into one interface without having to change inputs or anything so it is pretty easy.

I can't pick up any locals due to my location. My house sits at the foot of a small mountain that makes it nearly impossible to pick up a signal. I posted my TV Fool report to r/cordcutters one day and we came to the conclusion that I was SOL for an antenna.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

NONE
Sincerely the FCC.

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

Join us in the Key Players Club

At the FCC, not you...

(I might have to steal this for references to the FCC Chair, I'm that mad at the decision guy.

The Poster Formerly Known As The Spirit Of Bernard Basham

Well, there in all likelihood be a "best" streaming option. That option will just will likely soon be tied to your service provider.

Freedom of choice for the consumer will be lost for freedom of choice for the provider. It sucks. But at least you'll get to choose which provider to contract with (depending on providers in your area), that will ultimately take you to the woodshed!

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Man, I keep hearing this "choose your provider" stuff. Where do you guys live that you even have a choice?

#thingsiblamethemvsfor

Anywhere Verizon Fios or another fiber provider is available which is unfortunately very limited based on land area (mostly concentrated in the Northeast I-95 corridor, DC and southern Cal).

I'm not well versed in the net neutrality issue, but isn't that part of the idea behind the change (in theory)? To encourage infrastructure development and not continue the ma bell model that had us using the same technology and lines for the better part of the 20th century?

In theory government regulation was "preventing investment". I suppose because since companies couldn't hold content providers hostage for huge sums of money, they couldn't then take those huge sums and invest them. Provided, of course, that they would have any reason to actually invest those profits, which seems unlikely, since there really isn't any competition.

#thingsiblamethemvsfor

It just seems to me that govt regulation was just putting it's finger on the scale for content providers like Netflix.

It just seems to me thst everyone is seeing this in static, narrow terms of today's technology and their Netflix/Hulu cost going up. But I don't see how this won't benefit consumers in the long run in ways we can't even imagine right now.

But what do I know.

The problem is almost every broadband ISP is also some sort of content provider. Eliminating net neutrality lets your ISP tip the scales heavily in their favor. The start up costs for an ISP pretty much rule out new entrants to the market so it not something the free market can sort out. Just a couple of not so far fetched scenarios since this a cord cutting threads.

AT&T could tank Sony Vue, Sling etc streaming services to help push DirectTV now

Comcast could tank Amazon Prime, Netflix for Hulu. They could also tank CBS all access and ABC/Disney future streaming services for some future NBC Universal streaming service.

It gives service providers the ability to control what you see and do on the internet. How on Earth anyone can see this is a positive is beyond me.

#thingsiblamethemvsfor

In theory, if an ISP crosses some line. It will pay for it by losing business to the competition. Of course, that's not the way the internet access infrastructure works, but why let facts get in the way?

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For real, I have two choices satellite dish or antenna. No cable, no broadband.

yea, that last sentence was sarcastic. Where I live, I have one DSL option and one fiber optics option. Not really a choice.

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Yeah so finally cut the cord got sling and my wallet is absolutely loving it but now I'm waiting for the net neutrality to mess that all up we shall see

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Damn I didn't mean for this to become an extension of the Net Neutrality thread. Sorry folks.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

SlingTV is out as a good streaming option if you are on Comcast. I had been using SlingTV all season but it started to jump and skip constantly about a month ago.

This week when I went to WatchESPN, which was logged into my SlingTV account, it has been changed to be logged into Xfinity. I can't log back into WatchESPN with my SlingTV account anymore.

I watched some bowl games yesterday on WatchESPN (those that are on ABC are free) and it worked fine. But then I switched over to the SlingTV app to watch the ESPN bowls (I pay for ESPN through SlingTV, not Comcast) and it's a total disaster. It skips and jumps so often it is totally unwatchable.

Hmm - I watched the UK/VT game yesterday on ESPN 2 through Sling (via Roku) without issue.

I was running via Amazon Fire TV

I tried Sling when it first came out and it was awful so I haven't gone back. Hulu added WSLS so I gave them a try. I really enjoy it other than 30 fps. Once they get that fixed I think I'll stick with it.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

SlingTV was and has continually been awful. But you could use the credentials to log into WatchESPN.

Now, sadly that option is gone

Hmmm, No issues for me with Sling on Charter. Watched part of the b-ball game and whatever bowl game was on last night, no issues.

ETA. Just signed out and in of watch ESPN with my Sling account. No issues.

@HoaT, are you running through WiFi (I assume you are) or ethernet (hardwire)? I had problems with my Roku trying to use WiFi, but since I hard wired with ethernet (through one of those ethernet over electrical lines gadgets), I generally don't have too many issues (CBS All Access, excluded - but that's only live so I suspect it is my local affiliate's ability to stream well.)

Odd, I'm seeing the opposite problem. I tried to watch the VT-UK squeakyhoops game on the WatchESPN app through Roku this weekend, and it was totally unwatchable. The video kept freezing up while the audio (mostly) kept up. I exited that app and turned it on ESPN2 through the SlingTV app and it worked great.

β€œYou got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

I've had Playstation Vue since the beginning of the season and will cancel it once the BCS championship concludes. It's useful, but the interface is still pretty clunky and slow...although that might be because I'm on a PS3 and not a PS4.

Interesting.... We had Vue on the AppleTV and the interface was about as good or better than that of any other streaming service. Could very well be an issue with the PS3

Is it football season yet?

We had it with a FireTV box (not stick) and it was great. I only dropped it due to the price hike + not enough locals + taking channels away.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Bumping this for the new season. What is everyone using these days?

A HD antenna paired with my parents' Verizon Fios credentials for Watch ESPN. Being a moocher is nice.

YouTube TV. Local channels, ESPN, ESPN2, Fox Sports, FS1, MLB Network, NBA TV, on-demand movies. Unlimited DVR space, so you could technically record every single college football game this season.

The DVR is clutch. I had Sling last season and their DVR offering leaves a lot to be desired.

also has cbs sports which I believe the ECU game will be on.

Second, it's great. You also get access to WatchESPN so you can legally watch all of the ESPN3 games.

HokieSpider

So I called them once to get info on their DVR, they will remove old stuff you have not watched in the past 90 days. Just a heads up

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

Still using Sling via a Roku. I did add an HD antenna since I am in a metro area with access to HD singals from CBS, ABC and NBC. Fox doesn't come in but i can stream it via sling (the actual local Fox affiliate.) I still have CBS All Access for on demand access to their content (we watch a lot of CBS so this makes sense for us.)

Interested in people's opinions on YouTube TV.

Friend's Cox Communications credentials. I got DirecTV Now for $10/mo for 3 months for the NCAA Tourney and the NHL playoffs since there was a channel or two missing, but it was a pretty terrible experience. Should have learned my lesson after my experience years ago with their mediocre satellite service.

Youtube TV has been good for me. I get just about every sport I'd want to watch and the DVR is great. The phone app has been a little buggy but everything seems to run fine using my computer and a chromecast.

Another emphatic vote for YouTubeTV here. All of the ESPNs and all of the other sports networks, so all of the Hokie games. Plus local ABC, NBC, CBS,and Fox channels so the wife and I can watch local news in the morning for weather and traffic. Unlimited DVR, only caveat is that the recordings will only be retained for 9 months.

All of the TVs in the house have a Chromecast (YouTube TV suggests at least a generation 2) and a Samsung Blu-ray attached, so we can watch YouTubeTV, Netflix, Amazon, Movies Anywhere (formerly Disney Now), and HBONow anywhere in the house. I bought a tablet to use as a "remote" so I can also watch any of these platforms on the tablet.

So far we have been fine with 50Mbps through FiOS, but two of the Chromecasts (Ultras) and two of the Blu-rays are hard-wired to the router so the wi-fi doesn't have to do all of the work.

I couldn't be happier with YouTubeTV. You find out quickly how many junk channels that typical cable has that you won't miss. YouTubeTV was smart to include all of the regional sports channels. The only thing I miss is the NFLNetwork.

"Never half-ass two things. Whole-ass one thing."
-Ron Swanson

"11-0, bro"
-Hunter Carpenter (probably)

Add another tentative vote for YoutubeTV. We have been really pleased with it so far, but this being our first football season with it, I'm withholding my final verdict.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

Has anyone tried Hulu Live TV yet? They look really appealing for non-geographically located families that share cable sub credentials already. $39.99 base package, then $14.99 on top of that for unlimited devices. Seems to make sense if you already pay for Hulu at $11.99/mo or whatever.

I'll be trying out YouTube TV, PS Vue, Hulu Live TV, and Sling this fall. I've got cable credentials, but the ESPN app has been such utter trash the last couple years that I am considering paying for one of the TV streaming services instead of using WatchESPN for everything.

I just started using Hulu Live TV. Streams are good and the interface is seamless, just like it is for the on demand subscriptions. I get more sports channels than I know what to do with (in the waning days of the offseason I've caught up with Purdue and Alabama's training camp stories lol): ESPN, (2), (U), (News), FS1&2, SECN, BTN, local channels, CBSSN, and some other regional sports networks. Seems to be good so far.

I'm doing the hulu live thing now, had it for maybe 2 months. Really been enjoying it, although the user interface isn't the best. Wish it had a better guide. But overall, good. We'll see how it is come football season

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Check the local lineup before pulling the trigger. I cancelled it after a month after discovering I only received 1 of my locals (Fox). I didn't have NBC, ABC, or CBS.

I'm in Charleston and get NBC, ABC, Fox, and CBS on a digital antenna very reliably, so not too worried about local channels, but definitely something to consider if I'm traveling (like I am for the first month of the season...) and want to use the service. Def need CBS for Auburn primetime games.

We have been using it for about 2 months now and we really like it. The channel package is perfect for us and the sports package is solid (ESPN, 2, U, and News, CBS Sports, NBC Sports, FS1, FS2, Golf, BTN, SEC Network and the NBC Washington channel here in Richmond so all of the Redskins coverage is there). The only channel I have thought about missing was the NFL network but that is just for these few preseason games so I am not sweating it at all. 50 hours of cloud DVR is nice too. We only use the base package but it is just my wife and I so we don't need more than 2 devices. Here in Richmond, we get all of the local channels except ABC but we got a digital antenna with our fire stick and it gets ABC just fine.

"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders via Ricky Bobby

Hulu won't let you watch outside of your home zip code on "living room devices" (fire stick, apple tv, etc.); however, chromecasts are considered mobile devices, so you can use them anywhere.

I just found that out this weekend when trying to stream in OBX. You can change your home zip 4 times and then I guess it locks.

stick it in, stick it in, stick it in!

Direct TV Now, paired with the Apple 4k TV device, is GOLD (They have a deal where you pay the first 4 months up front and get the device free)(streaming through Chromecast wasn't the best). The streaming far exceeds my expectations, and I'm in love with the GUI's within each streaming app. There's a bug here or there, and the remote takes some getting used to, but the DVR functionality works great, and the basic package at $40 gives me all the channels my wife and I need and then some. We just picked up ABC in our area, so now I have absolutely no need for a digital antenna. Both ESPNs, NBCSN, Fox1, and all the critical channels for the shows that we tend to watch. Satisfied all the way around.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

I tried DirecTV Now and hated every minute of it. Granted, we didn't get the Apple TV, so if that works better then good for you. We already have about 8 internet-connected devices in the living room, so no reason for a Chromecast our similar streaming service, but the one device that had a DirecTV Now app was a buggy mess, and the in-browser experience on PC and Linux was somehow significantly worse (stream quality was awful and would occasionally cut out for a minute, and if you wanted to change the channel you had to click through one by one, the guide page didn't work at all). The Android app didn't work for me at all, but that's because they don't allow it to run on rooted devices. At one point I tried it on a friend's Chromecast, but it wasn't much better.

We got it for $10/mo for 3 months because our friend's Cox account didn't include a couple channels we needed to watch the NCAA Tournament and the NHL playoffs, but since it was brutally obvious that they didn't care about their customers' experience (Twitter was full of similar anecdotes whenever I searched) I feel no reason to ever spend my money there again.

Completely agree with all you're saying, but once I got the Apple device I never looked back. I honestly considered cancelling the service within the first couple of days, because the Android app and the browser experience was terrible with my streaming devices (Chromecast gen1/gen2). But something about Apple TV made it incredibly intuitive in my opinion. I know a lot of these views could be the regional streaming performance, seeing as I live in Utah. But honestly I will never look back, and no other streaming option fulfills all of my channel needs quite like the base package that DTVN provides.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Im glad someone bumped this as I was going to ask about this with football season right around the corner.

I'ved used Sling TV and PS Vue.... Sling was awful as the picture would go in and out of a clear picture often, plus a lot of the times, the stream to live lag was too big for me, I noticed it on New Years eve when the clock hit midnight but the countdowns on the news channels had like 30 seconds. The audio to video sometimes wouldn't matchup. I know it's the cheapest but I will never go back to them.

PS Vue was great, went with the Core package but they raised the price from $45 to $50, which pissed me off because I am a squeaker lol but I mainly dropped them in June because hockey and basketball was over and don't really care about baseball until the playoffs.

So I have been leaning towards YouTube TV because all I hear is great things about them. My questions for you guys derive from the problems I have had with previous streaming companies...

1) How is the lag from streaming to actual live TV?
2) Does the audio matchup with the video you are watching?

Thanks in advance!

Bleeding burnt orange and chicago maroon

We've only had YoutubeTV since around the end of January, but we haven't had any audio matchup issues. The streams run a few seconds behind live TV from what I have seen. We have had very minimal issues with the stream itself lagging. Overall, we've been really pleased. Our first football season with it will be the real test.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

I think I am going to end up going with YouTube TV. The fact that it's $40/month and you get all the ESPN's and Fox, NBC, ABC and CBS is a winner for me. When PS Vue told me they were taking away ABC, that didn't sit right with me and they wanted to charge me $50/month.

Bleeding burnt orange and chicago maroon

Sports was the only thing that held us back from cutting the cord. When we moved and saw that YoutubeTV was available in our area it was hard to pass up with its lineup. At the time we joined, they didn't have CBS, but now that they have picked that up I feel that it's just as good, if not better, than our DirecTV package sports wise.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

1. Slight delay, from live TV, but we're talking seconds. Buffering issues for the most part are nonexistent since I've paired Direct TV Now with the new Apple 4k device. That device alone is such a useful interface that it honestly makes it feel like I still have a cable box and a remote, which made the transition easier for us. Versus using your phone as the main hub for channel surfing.
2. Audio matches with video, looks great.

Disclaimer: 150MB download speeds, using Comcast internet. Connected Ethernet directly to the Apple device.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

YouTube tv is fantastic plus the local channels in app are killer for sports locally I don't have to get out the antenna anymore like with sling.

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Cox was figuratively screwing me sideways for cable and internet; so I went internet only and picked up a Roku TV. I also have a firestick in another room. We have added Philo, Netflix, Hulu, youtube etc and a HDTV antenna for additional viewing options. still paying less than before. I am little concerned with sports coverage this fall.

"Hamdog is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life"....Brian Carson from the Internet(s)

I am forced to use Cox in my area but I refuse to use them for anything other than internet. They keep trying to get me to sign up for their cable, but I know they are going to royally screw me over on the price and services.

Bleeding burnt orange and chicago maroon

We have Cox internet. Their TV packages looked criminal when we looked last time for how much it would cost. HuluTV, Netflix and Prime video has been perfect for us and we are paying $100 less a month than DirecTV and still watch all of our shows. We actually have more sports channels now than we did before with Hulu.

"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders via Ricky Bobby

I've tried almost every streaming service and PS Vue is by far the best IMO. With their service + Netflix + Amazon Prime... we always have plenty to watch.

I carry 100 MB/s cable internet through Specturm (Time Warner) and have never had issues.

I have a couple of questions about Youtube TV.

Can anyone tell me the success rate of Youtube TV on either Xbox One or Apple TV? Is the stream quality consistent and good? How delayed is the stream?

Thanks.

Works beautiful on the Xbox one, I use YouTube tv on Xbox, a Roku, my Sony smart TV and on my phone every device works like a charm

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

That's great news, thanks!

Question from a possibly soon-to-be-former Comcast customer: My wife is a consummate technophobe. She likes being able to point the remote at the TV and change the channel, but is really wanting to ditch Comcast due to the cost. Being her IT person, what I don't want is to have her handing me the remote(s) and telling me "I want to watch HGTV. Switch it for me." Seriously, if she has to use more than one remote, it may throw her for a loop. How does the user interface for YouTube TV or PS Vue (the two alternatives that seem to be our best choices) compare? Anybody have similar non-tech oriented persons in house to deal with?

Take the shortest route to the ball and arrive in bad humor.

The Apple TV syncs with your TV and you're able to use volume u/d, and power on off for the TV. Regardless of what service you use, might want to be something to consider.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Thanks, I'm not an Apple fan generally, but will look into it.

Take the shortest route to the ball and arrive in bad humor.

I hate Apple, so I understand where you're coming from. I simply cannot deny though the usefulness of this media tool.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

I'll second AppleTV. The remote is super simple, and does everything except turn your TV on. If my mom (who two months ago just upgraded from an iPhone 3Gs and struggled to figure out iOS 11) can figure out an AppleTV, your wife probably can too. You may have to download apps and log in, but that's a one time thing. For someone who is technically weak, AppleTV is your best option.

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Not sure if you know, but the ATV can actually turn your TV on and off and control volume. At least it does for my Sony Bravia TV.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

I know it controls the volume, but I didn't know that you could turn the TV on/off!

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When you hit the sleep option on the device, it also turns off the TV. Just hold the TV symbol and select sleep.

"...I'm getting a little tired of hearing how good everybody else is..." -Coach Fu [This week: 1-0]

Does she have an Android smartphone? Is she familiar enough with it to navigate video apps? If so, the Chromecast may be a good option, since once it's set up it's fairly trivial to control the Chromecast from a phone.

Android phone and tablet. I think her phone has grown to be permanently attached to her hand.

Take the shortest route to the ball and arrive in bad humor.

Roku is pretty easy to work with.

Google Home, YouTubeTV and Chromecast.

If you set everything up properly - then you wouldn't even need a remote.

https://support.google.com/googlehome/answer/7214982?hl=en

https://support.google.com/googlehome/answer/7498991?hl=en

Edit: If you think using multiple remote is a problem then invest in logitech universal remote. I personally use it to control all of my gadgets. TV, Surround Sound, TV Reciever and xbox. It takes time to set it up. But once the remote is set up it is very easy to use.

https://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Harmony-Infrared-Universal-Programmable/...

Already have a harmony remote, which I dearly love. Thanks for the links!

Take the shortest route to the ball and arrive in bad humor.

I had the same issues with the Mrs Hamdog. Try Philo , it has all those channels live for about 16$ per month. I have a Roku TV that manages the interface (with remote)-- so far she (the wife) seems happy.

"Hamdog is the kindest, bravest, warmest, most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life"....Brian Carson from the Internet(s)

Harmony Smart Control

I love mine. It will take you a while to set up because each device and every function require programming. Programming will get quicker the more you do it. But from an end user standpoint, one controller does everything. I have a TV, Roku, Amazon TV, Blu Ray, antenna, and receiver. When my parents come in town, I say press "this" button for Roku/Netflix. Then press "Off" when you are done. They don't have to worry about anything else.

The Harmony will change devices (e.g. roku to amazon box to antenna), inputs on receivers, and inputs on TVs. All with the push of a single button. By default the Roku will continue to stream and not go to sleep if you forget to go to the home screen, so my Harmony is also set to return my Roku to home before changing to a different device. You also program the order in which things happen (click watch tv -> tv turns on, TV to HDMI 1, receiver on, then receiver changed to TV input). You can even assign apps. So say you only use Roku for Netflix. You can program it to wake the Roku then immediately open the Netflix app. No one even has to see the Roku dashboard (I have two Roku button assignments, one just turns everything to watch the Roku and the other one goes straight to Pandora).

Also all signals come from the box, not the controller. The controller only tells the box what to do. The distinction seems silly, but it's important. When you open the phone app (or even use another controller), the hub has the current setting. Your wife could use the controller to turn the TV on and when you open the app on the phone, it immediately shows that the TV is on. You can then change channels or volume. You don't have to go searching to open the function that is already being used. Absolutely no signal mixup or confusion.

If you have little ones and they loose the remote, use the phone app until you find it. Honestly, I think the phone app is the way Harmony intended the system to be used, but I'd rather use a controller. If you like the fancier chargeable controller with LCD screen, buy that instead. There is a decent amount of flexibility there.

Now this I can relate to my dad is awful with computers and tech and when I ditched cable I had to go with apps that were old fart friendly with easy to use interfaces and most importantly and good guide. Tried sling for a few months but the stream quality was poo poo plus YouTube tv launched and I went there and it's great the interface and guide is so simple and easy to use I no longer have yo help him find stuff. Also depends how you're streaming on the remote bit I use a variety of tech pieces like Roku or the smart TV I got as well even the Xbox is seamless

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

So, How do folks calculate and compare their 'cord' costs? When comparing 'cord cutting' options do folks just look at the comparible costs of the Television/Movie packages? Do folks consider high speed internet costs as a seperate line item? I know I spend way too much but i haven't sat down to figure out how to still incorporate maximum live sports with maximum movie/premium shows with simple 'point remote, consume show' usability.

I might have to dig into YouTube TV a little more. DVR space and scheduled recording capabilities were a couple of my questions.

Run to Win. Pass To Score
Josh Jackson on Ricky Walker - β€œβ€œHe is the captain of this team, He’s the leader. He’s the bell cow, the Pail Holder.β€œ

There is value (for me) found in being able to stick it to the man (the cable company), even if you aren't saving a ton of $$

Is it football season yet?

Exactly! THIS!

Just not having to rent a cable box monthly, incur stupid charges like HD fees, and regional sports fees (of teams I don't support) is something you can't put a value on IMO.

I tend to try to stay under $90 for internet/tv costs. So to answer your question yes I'd factor in the internet as well. But with Comcast you tend to almost pay twice as much by year two. Especially once the promotional deal ends. My bill was about to go from $84 (with taxes a month) up to $140. I don't even rent a modem from them and it was still going to balloon up to this amount. Unacceptable. I've enjoyed Direct TV now every time I flip a channel with a "free" cable box, while siphoning bandwidth off of their internet services, just to stick it to them. Take that!!! Mr. HD fee!!!!

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I look at total cost. If you are a new customer to cable companies you would get a great rate, but once that lease expires, the cost increases exponentially, and then you have to haggle the price. when I had internet and TV, total cost including renting fees of all equipment and taxes came out to be little less than $120 (after haggling) for both internet and TV.

Switched to FiOS Quantom (1 gb internet) and youtube TV, and my monthly cost tumbled to $90. that is $25-30 savings with better internet each month. πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

I have never had a choice of broadband providers in my life. Growing up, Cox Communications was the only option. Obviously you don't have to worry about it in dorms, but since moving off-campus I've lived in 9 different rental units (apartments, duplexes, etc) in 4 different areas, and each time I have had to get internet from the local cable company, either Comcast, Shentel, or Time Warner, depending on location. At my current apartment, AT&T laid down fiber from a central distribution box in May (I remember it vividly because they hit a water main and we were without running water for over 36 hours), but still haven't connected the central distribution box to their outside network. I long for the day of calling up Comcast and cancelling service.

I would say it's wise to include internet cost, since bundling internet and TV generally saves a little money off the top.

Then again, I "cut the cord" years ago, and the only reason we've had TV service the whole time is that the introductory deals include a barebones basic TV subscription (pretty much just local broadcast networks, shopping channels, and CSPAN) "bundled" for less than internet by itself.

From what I've seen, it's generally true that you'll probably spend around the same amount on Internet + streaming TV package as an Internet + TV bundle, but if you can share a streaming TV package with a friend (or take it one step further like me and "borrow" a cable account's credentials from a friend) you'll probably find it's a bit cheaper.

I currently have Google Fiber (1 Gbps internet) and Youtube TV. I've watched a bunch of baseball with it so far with no problems. It works great on my computer and smart tv. Hopefully the youtube servers can keep up with demand for college and pro football (I've heard they do with no problems).

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

If you don't mind saying, how much is your google fiber? I can't get in my area right now, but wondering for the future. I have high speed internet and the lowest option for cable through spectrum and they chage me $60 total. I called to cancel the cable portion because I was going to try Hulu or YoutubeTV and they told me it would be more expensive if I kept the same internet but took off the cable. Would like to get rid of both sometime soon!

Yeah this is my problem. Drop cable and my internet stays high. They charge ridiculous amounts for individual services to offer "savings" through bundling. Frustrating.

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Google Fiber in my area is $70/month for 1,000 Mbps and $50/month for 100 Mbps. That price includes taxes and fees, so you actually pay exactly that much. I previously had Spectrum which was $65/month (+ taxes and fees) for 200 Mbps.

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

I didn't want to make a whole new thread and it loosely relates to the topic.

Walmart has a ridiculous deal on Vizio 70" E series, in store only (only in some locations) $599

One I've found recently r/CFBStreams (also one for NFL), connect a laptop correctly or clone to TV using chromecast and you are good to go.

I just looked up Youtube TV, but apparently it is only available in certain areas (ie, not where I currently live). Why would they add a restriction like that on their service?

They might be saying you won't get the local cbs nbc and fox channels it should be available everywhere you might look into that

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I clicked on the "free trial" link, and the next screen told me it was not available in my area, and gave me the option of giving them an email address to notify me when it is, in fact, available in my area.

I just looked at Youtube TV as well, and would sign up for that immediately...but they don't offer HGTV or Food Network. No Chip & Joanna, no Chopped, no Beat Bobby Flay...That's a deal breaker for me...because Happy Wife, Happy Life.

Ooh....that wouldn't work for me either! For the same reason.

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Someone further up said all the free trials were 1 week long. Is this still the case for Youtube tv? In case my normal watching methods fail, it'd be nice to know how much of the season I can squeeze for the least money.

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That's what it says, if it's available in your area.

Youtube TV has been outstanding for me through 2 weeks. I'm using it on a Samsung smart tv, and the guide on the app feels even smoother than my previous cable provider's guide (Spectrum). No buffering at all, and that includes a bunch of primetime games. The unlimited DVR is also fantastic. I recorded all three broadcasts of the VT-FSU game to watch when I got back from the game. Ended up finding myself on TV twice.

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

Count me in as a YouTube TV convert. Switched over just before the season started. Streamed week 0 games on the iPad from the campground, streamed Sportcenter and Mickey Mouse Clubhouse in the Airport RV lots this weekend. I still need to really sit down and learn the nuances and reprogram my universal remote.

We jumped to Gigabit Fios, switched to YouTube TV and I'm still saving ~ $50 per month

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I've been experimenting with YouTube TV for about a month, as I consider potentially shedding my $200 monthly Comcast bill. I have been very impressed with YouTube TV so far, and I'm fairly certain I'd have access to more than 90% or more of what I regularly watch on Comcast.

I'll throw in my support too. We decided to go the Youtube TV after reading this thread. It's certainly the best streaming option I've found for sports with plenty of sports options and perfect streaming quality.

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