Player you personally are most excited to see this season?

For me its Damon Hazelton. To many good things have been said about him, and we haven't seen him in action since he arrived, but I am buying into the buzz.

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I'm excited to see how Devon Hunter performs now that he'll likely have to play some meaningful snaps. He looked bigger during the Spring Game, so I'm hoping he continues that trend and makes an impact this Fall.

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Agreed with this. For some reason I just think he's going to light the world on fire this year.

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I'm trying to be cautious not to set myself up for disappointment, but I think his ceiling is incredibly high at that position. Cody Grimm instincts, Alonzo Tweedy athleticism, Anthony Shegog size

Going to be the best we've had at the modern nickel position.

Caleb Farley

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Can't go wrong with this pick. The fact that he wowed us that much in the Spring Game on offense, but the coaches were impressed more on defense has the intrigue and hype meter at 11.

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I'm not sure if he was moved because he was more impressive on defense, or because we have a lot of bodies at WR and needed an extra speedster at CB and he was just the best of the bunch. Hoping for the former, expecting the latter.

Yes to everything you mentioned.

I know people are upset about him not being on offense, but I'm telling y'all, by the end of the 2019 season, we will all forget about that spring game. Might take some lumps this year but that kid is going to be special sooner rather than later.

Mook, Savoy & Fox.

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I'm just hoping that we have some corners to be excited about.

Defense: Rivers and Hunter
Offense: Jackson - has some experience and more talent to work with

Reggie Floyd. I think he'll be All-ACC in 2018.

Ah yes, Floyd, the hero of Pittsburgh.

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Quad Box Goal Line Stops gif will always get a leg from me.

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Some advice...

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consider it a test of the hypothesis

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I tossed you a downvote to help you prove his hypothesis wrong. EDIT: You're welcome. (hangs head in grammar shame)

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This was a great burn right up until "your"

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I should've posted a wider graph.

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people out there deciding to downvote quadbox goal line stops, though

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me tryna push my luck like

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haha. I jokingly DV the first experiment to help you stick it to smartypants bobby tables and his little graph, but looks like it may have been a gateway DV

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...smartypants bobby tables...

Yep, that's me.

If you're not sure if my comment warrants a "/s", it probably does.

True to my word, I gave it a leg every single time.

"Sooner or later, if man is ever to be worthy of his destiny, we must fill our heart with tolerance."
-Stan Lee

"Never half-ass two things. Whole-ass one thing."
-Ron Swanson

"11-0, bro"
-Hunter Carpenter (probably)

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I think we should refer to him as "Reggie Floyd, The Hero of Pittsburgh" from now on. The way he didn't give up on that long pass and saved the game is legendary. I cannot wait to see what he does this year beside a healthy Diablo.

"Sooner or later, if man is ever to be worthy of his destiny, we must fill our heart with tolerance."
-Stan Lee

"Never half-ass two things. Whole-ass one thing."
-Ron Swanson

"11-0, bro"
-Hunter Carpenter (probably)

That is absolutely an example of giving "NO!" for an answer.

The hero of Pittsburgh, the man they call Jayne Reggie

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MV7, MV5, LT3, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

Firefly/serenity will always get a leg... always!

Tweedy can run like a dadgum antelope or whatever. I like to use scalded dog. Do antelopes lumber? Cheetah, OK. He runs like a cheetah. He's fast. - Bud Foster

Checks out.

Hunter and Hazelton

The return of Deablo.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

That would be....shall I say it....divine.

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Phil Patterson if he can make more grabs like that one-hander he had in the spring game.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Hazelton and Farley

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These are my 1a and 1b also

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We NEED our running game / RB's to improve to support the overall offense. So, I'm very curious to see...

Deshawn McClease - 5'9" 190 (can he hold up run blocking)
Jalen Holston - 5'11" 217
Terius Wheatley - 6'0" 193
Caleb Steward - 5'11" 209
Steven Peoples - 5'9" 221 (lower since I feel we know what he is at this point)
Coleman Fox - 5'11" 187 (just don't know if he's the guy to "make people miss" that we need)

In that order. And yes, I'm expecting some "boo this man" gifs for having Fox last ;)

Coleman Fox - 5'11" 187 (just don't know if he's the guy to "make people miss" that we need)

I would argue that only McClease has looked more elusive than Fox in what we've seen from this RB group.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Don't disagree, but key point is "in what we've seen" and most of that is not against opposing players. Need to be elusive + powerful to make "real" tacklers miss... and as a now RS-JR I don't know if Fox has the latter.

The others are much younger and still developing their bodies IMO

Yes, Coleman Fox can juke a 4th-string defender better than Holston can juke a 2nd-string defender. And Peoples will just run them over, so he doesn't really count.

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Coleman Fox trucked the starting backer for a TD the last snap I saw him take. Just saying.

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The starting backer that has played how many snaps in actual competition?

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So if you're going to trend in that direction, then you'll need to account for some stats & metrics (i.e. avg wt, ht, wingspan, speed, bench, leg press ranges) for beginning backers from a collection of div 1 teams. In addition to "# of actual snaps/downs in collegiate competition", you'll correlate the data w/ division & level of competition & training received in hs that most imitates that of collegiate competition for div 1. Of course this is simply a brief assertion.
But from your brief implication (as this is not an attack), the stats of French's credibility from countless analyses stack the odds heavily in his favor compared to yours.

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With regards to the specific player discussed (the starting LB), countless analyses of what? Practice?

I have no truck with French's analyses at all. In fact, I'm rather impressed by them, which is why I plunked down for TKPC. My point in the above comment, however, is that the LB in question has received zero meaningful snaps at the D1 level. We can take any stats we want to and use them to project how good he might be, but we can never know, not until he's taking snaps in games. So my point, in essence, is thus: "We can't use this one interaction as a basis for estimating Coleman Fox's future performance, because we don't know (at this time) the ability level of the starting LB that he trucked in said scrimmage."

Oh, and regarding....

...you'll need to...

Really? Do I? This is TKP, I thought all I *need* to do is flash some gifs and talk about condiments. ;^)

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flashing gifs, did you say?

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Okay, +1 for making me laugh, but really, now...

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BTW, flashing gifs anagrams to Hag Flings Ifs.

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Leg for Becs all day long.

@Both replies: We've seen more of Fox than just the spring game, and it wasn't just in garbage time last season either. I think the guy can find creases and get extra yardage consistently.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

I think he can get creases and get some yards. I just don't think he is the guy who is going to get to the 2nd level and make a safety miss or shake a CB on a sweep play to bust a big one. He seemed to be one of the better backs at finding the holes and hitting it and getting some. Better vision/anticipation, less athletic in space.

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Would love to see Holston play up to his rating this year.

Being a Giants fan, I am really interested to see what Wheatley brings to the table. Especially since his Dad coaches RBs at Penn State, and was a fantastic running back at Michigan, and brutally misused as a NY Giant.

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Btw, just for clarification, this reaction is intended for VTdude12's comment & list, as wel as for any comments that trend towards a belittling direction of Fox.

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;-) And full disclosure... I'd love to be wrong about Fox. Just want a RB that can "carry the load"... something we've been missing for a number of years!

The fact that you have the audacity to even attempt to counter French's truthful analysis of Fox from the Sprin Game:

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No mention of Drew Harris? He should be number 1. /s

1-0 every week

I'm excited to see this guy without his training wheels and distractions. You have to think that he has the offense and routes down enough to get out of his own head and continue making big plays. Those slant routes are almost always open.

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If he can get passed the 1 to 2 drops per game, I think Savoy will have a solid year.

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He can have 1 drop for every TD he scores.

Tweedy can run like a dadgum antelope or whatever. I like to use scalded dog. Do antelopes lumber? Cheetah, OK. He runs like a cheetah. He's fast. - Bud Foster

No. I seem to remember a lot few of his drops ending up in a defenders hands.

Fair enough

Tweedy can run like a dadgum antelope or whatever. I like to use scalded dog. Do antelopes lumber? Cheetah, OK. He runs like a cheetah. He's fast. - Bud Foster

Hopefully, he gets that corrected. If not we'll just start calling him "puberty" because of all the balls he's dropping.

Oh...here! Take yer damn leg.

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I came here for the Dwayne Lawson jokes. I'm kinda disappointed.

On offense Hazelton. On D Hunter.

If they play this year (I think they both will) tre turner and dax will shoot to the top of my list.

I've been going back and forth on putting Dwayne Lawson in a list since this thread started.

My only hold up was this is the only thread that I've seen this week that didn't instantly go off the rails so I wanted to watch it play out before pure mayhem.

A football thread, without pure speculation. It's a miracle.

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I would say this...

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...but this *is* TKP, after all.

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Drew Harris, our RB rotation needs the boost!

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Anyone who lines up as TE/H-Bback. I've been hearing, since Fuente was hired, how well he does when he has serviceable TE's/H-Backs... He has them, excited to see if the hype is real.

Is it football season yet?

Drake D I think will open some eyes. He sold me.

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Agreed

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Agreed, hiss is Joni came here to submit. Drake is a horse

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I'm pretty excited to see how much Jackson has progressed

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Did you watch the spring game

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Because spring game performance correlates to regular season performance 100%. It's science.

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Its not a guarantee, but its our best indication.

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That's actually a great commentary on how little anyone outside of the program gets to see the team. If writers could get press passes and watch more than warm ups during the spring we would have so much more insight in to how position battles are shaping up. Having more than one data point would be ideal.

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Redskins fans everywhere call this a legit take.

Redskins fan here: Preseason Undefeated = SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS BABYYYYYYY

Same here. Pretty shocked that more people haven't mentioned JJ. I'm not convinced he's going to have an incredible career, but I'm not ready to mail it in and declare him incapable of being our starter either.

I'm looking for him to start improving around late October/early November. I think the first 4 games could be ugly, but I trust in Fuente to keep coaching him up.

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Very excited to see how Eric Kumah has progressed. Great frame for the position and strong as well.

Another white bronco? The first one didn't go too far.

Yes

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Jerod Evans, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

YES

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Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

QP (For four games only)

Offense: Hazelton
Defense: Rivers and the young DEs (Proctor, Debose and Garbutt)

I'm also really curious to see what happens with DeJuan Ellis and Cole Beck in fall camp and into the season.

Trevon Hill and Dax. Hill because he's a straight baller that rarely gets the credit he deserves. And Dax because I feel like he's just going to light some guys up

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Easy:

The Wahoo's next perennial loser QB. I expect him to get hit early, and often by Bud Foster's excellent defense.

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Easy:

The Wahoo's next perennial loser QB rotation. I expect him to get hit early, and often by Bud Foster's excellent defense.

ftfy

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I generally don't look forward to watching UVA, even when they play VT.

If you're reading the above post and thinking, "is this guy serious?!?," you can safely assume I'm not.

It's incredibly exciting how many options we have to answer this question (Hazelton, Farley, Hunter, Hollifield, Turner, etc). It's also terrifying the overlap between "Never played meaningful/any snaps in college or on the P5 level" and "will likely be counted on in a critical role this year."

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Belmar , a sleeper think he is being overlooked and will become a playmaker . Will be in the 3 man rotation at DE and will emerge as the year goes on .

Coastal 1

Offense: Any of the ball carriers, Holston, Fox, Peoples, McClease
Defense: Deablo or Farley

Defensive tackles other than walker and starting tackle opposite Nijman.

When it comes to DTs, I'd say I'm closer to pants-crappingly scared than I am to excited. But Burke didn't suck in the spring and so long as Goode isn't too fat we might be alright.

I look forward to hearing Grimsley's name called, if they say his full name. In a WWF announcer voice: hezaKIAH GRImsley!

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I'll go with Hazelton and Rivers. Both very key IMO. Hazelton can be an Isaiah Ford- smart and good enough to make plays and win 50/50 balls. I'm hoping Dylan Rivers is more Ben Taylor than Carson Lydon. We need a MLB that can get in the right position and make tackles.

Offense: the wide receivers

Defense: the safeties (Diablo, Hunter, and Floyd) and Trevon Hill. Watching through some of last years games again and Hill played a lot better than I remembered- if he can just avoid getting hurt by GT's dirty play again.

House Gaines and Devon Hunter on defense. Heze Grimsley and McClease on Offense.

OK, I'll say it: Ricky Walker. Yes I know teams will double him more now with Settle gone, but he has trended upward every season and now he is a grown-a$$ senior. It's not as exciting but I am looking forward to prolific run-stuffing and sacks from #8.

Not one mention of Hezekiah Grimsley on this whole forum is surprising to me. He played very well in the UVA and Oklahoma State games last season (remember the leaping catch against UVA?). He can play inside and out, runs good routes, and has good hands. I wouldn't be surprised if he sees the field more than Savoy in the slot given how Savoy's drops always seem to pop up in the air making it easy for the other team to pick it off. Fuente hates turnovers as we all know.

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Literally 2 posts above you is a mention of Grimsley....just sayin...

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Landers Nolley. Good length for defense and rebounding. Seems like a good scorer. Ohhh football... Whoever plays LT will be an interesting spot. Nijman's struggles early and then not having him later in the season really impacted our offense.

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Agreed about Nolley. He's coming for Med's minutes

Ellis and Thompson...both have a lot speed and a lot of wiggle

Drake Deiiulius and Dalton Keene. People (besides French) are sleeping on Drake and Keene was impressive for a freshman primarily because of his unreal size strength as a freaking teenager.

Once Fuente has a solid group of H-backs this offense will reach its full potential and look much more like what Fuente has done in the past. He is stockpiling talent at a critical and overlooked position group.

You guys are nail on head here . With Dalton and Drake then add Mitchell coming in and Cunningham this position room looks good to go for the next 2-3 years . This is a key area for this offense and the offense will be getting better sooner than most expect, especially with the QB situation behind us .

Coastal 1

Agreed. I think people may forget about the importance and size of the role this group has in Fuente's offense due to him inheriting Ford, Bucky, Phillips and starting off by implementing a scheme that utilized their talents best, rather than forcing them into roles just so he could run "his" offense. Since they arrived the staff has been stockpiling the H-back group with talent and that's no coincidence. We're going to see more and more usage similar to how Fuente has utilized those personnel groupings in the past as Keene, Drake, and Mitchell mature alongside Cunningham.

What makes Fu's scheme so deadly is cases where the opposing defense may even know what's coming but one defender is forced to make a decision between two bad options leaving someone running free. All the QB has to do is wait for it to happen and make a routine throw to the free man. As QB friendly as it gets. In 2016 there was a PERFECT example of this with a play we ran at least 5 different times throughout the year in the red zone and it resulted in either a wide open TD or Sam Rodgers running free for a dump off TD in ALL but one case (and I think that might've been due to Jerod hesitating, IIRC)

That play was the reason that Cunningham had 4 TD's off of 6 total receptions in the 2016 season. That's pretty damn efficient. Haha

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I understand why everyone is concerned at experience, but I think it's a little recency bias in the wake of draft departures and academic issues.

-We have a top 3 QB in the conference, who will now be in his third year in the system
-We return three backs that had over 70 carries last season (People would have had more had he not been injured)
-We return Kumah and Savoy, two key receivers. Not to mention CJ Carroll who is Mr. Reliable and Damon Hazelton who led Ball State in receiving as a Freshman. Who steps up after these four? Patterson and Grimsley have shown flashes. Murphy has speed and can make a play or two every now and then. I'm comfortable with that 7. One of the freshmen will be better than expected, so our WR depth is quite good.
-H back returns Cunningham and Keene.
-O Line returns a few. Some young talent. Most concerning group for me though.
-D Line...SOLID front 4. Depth will be an issue. Will need Hewitt to make the jump, same with Belmar on the outside. Need something from Garbutt and Proctor as well. Who steps up as 4th DT?
-LB Young but talented. Dax/Rivers I think both are very instinctual and won't be overwhelmed. Who will replace Tremaine? That's the key.
-Secondary, high on Watts. Jury out on Farley. Waller will be a contributor. Safetys are very good if all stay healthy. Mook as well as a senior.

overall...we're fine. Will be a few kinks, but honestly, with what we return, we deserve our ranking.

Always choose joy.

VT should be top 25 ish again. If tbe front 4 are healthy and perform near what they have in past.They shoul be better than SOLID

I have concerns with Mihota going from DT to DE to DT. He is experienced but he is not going to be Tim Settle next to Walker. Will we be able to get push from the interior? Will we be able to hold up with the inside run game? DL is the most concerning group for me.

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There is no way LB is not the most concerning group. No one has even taken a relevant college snap, DL ranks among highest groups in ACC in every publication I have seen. You have 2 all ACC players on the Dline and 2 better than solid players barring injuries. You are replacing 2 1st round picks on the 2nd and 3rd level and 2 other NFL caliber players in the secondary. Big Tim would have made the dline better but what back as a group on the dline is far more proven than any group on the team.

I'm pretty happy about Mihota moving back to defensive tackle to be honest. It seems like quarterbacks would break containment on his side a lot because he would take the bait and crash in, and I don't really remember him being very disruptive otherwise. Defensive tackle is his natural position, and I also think he's less likely to get hurt there.

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Offense - Eric Kumah - no player on offense progressed more during the 2nd half of last season. Savoy was hot out of the gate and steady despite some drops, but Kumah made some big plays late in the season. Size and hands to be a significant factor.

Defense - Dylan Rivers & other young LBs - Rivers gets the mention because of his high school tape and seeming domination during his most recent game action, and his athleticism/fluidity jumps out at you. Whethers it's Ashby, Dax, etc. rounding out the duo, a lot of high-ceiling prospects fighting for two spots.

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