Seminoles Bounce Hokies from Brooklyn 74-68

All that's left is to dance.

[Atlantic Coast Conference \ David Welker]

Fresh-legged Florida State dispatched Virginia Tech 74-68 in the quarterfinals of the ACC Tournament.

For about 30 minutes the Hokies were able to withstand the Seminoles' decisive depth and length advantages. Moreover Tech exploited FSU's poor shot selection and leveraged timely threes (7-15, 46.7% in the first half) to either lead or remain within striking distance for three-quarters of the game.

And now for the frustrating part.

With a 52-50 Tech advantage and 9:37 left in the second half, FSU capitalized on a Hokies' miscue and rode the ensuing momentum to the semifinals. Justin Bibbs floated a lifeless pass up the court, and seconds later, back on defense, Zach LeDay picked up his fourth foul. With LeDay on the bench, FSU dashed out to a 61-52 lead. Ultimately is was part of an 18-1 run for the 'Noles in which the Hokies missed five three-point attempts. That proved to be enough cushion to seal the deal for FSU.

LeDay led all scorers with 22 points and finished one board shy of the double-double. Buzz Williams praised the senior forward's efforts in Brooklyn (31 and 15 against Wake Forest).

"I think it's hard to measure someone's heart, but he (LeDay) plays with incredible fight," Williams said. "For him to do what he's done here over the last two games obviously allowed us to still be here today."

And unlike years past, the somberness of Virginia Tech's ACC Tournament exit is diluted because of what figures to be a fruitful Selection Sunday for the Hokies.

"But that we get to go home and know that we have another opportunity," Williams said. "There will be 68 teams that will be 0-0, and we want to keep playing."

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Good fight from this team, which is what we've seen all year. I came into the tournament wanting to see us win the first round and if not win the second, at least give them a good scare and I think we did that.

Now we have to see if the Selection Committee calls our name on Sunday.

"Jerod Evans had more moves on that run than Bayer has aspirin!"

-Mike Burnop, 9/24/2016

Now we have to see if where the Selection Committee calls our name on Sunday.

FTFY

Yeah, we're getting in.

Still haunted by Greenberg. I won't say we're in until we've heard our name.

"Jerod Evans had more moves on that run than Bayer has aspirin!"

-Mike Burnop, 9/24/2016

So basically even if we won the ACC you'd still be holding your breath

Yes. It ain't over till it's over.

"Jerod Evans had more moves on that run than Bayer has aspirin!"

-Mike Burnop, 9/24/2016

Good thing he's not our coach anymore. In addition to the lack of a bad loss, I doubt anyone on the committee has the personal animosity that Greenberg created.

The sad part to me is, I think Greenberg saw it as going to bat for his guys. But instead it turned into this whole other weird thing.

Maybe I'm out of the loop, what did Greenberg do to piss off the selection committee?

If I can take a guess, he ripped the committee a new one after we fell out of the bubble one year, and they held it against him?

That's the going theory. Missing the cut as a bubble team one year was disappointing, but Greenberg made some very heat-of-the-moment kind of public comments about the committee (not just the committee's decision). Then the next few years we had bubble teams again, and were left out each time.

That's not evidence, but certainly had the look of retribution for Coach going over the line.

The "certifiably insane" remark he made about them probably blacklisted Greenburg for life in the eyes of the Selection Committee. Greenburg has a cushy job at ESPN, so I doubt he'd ever venture back into coaching any time soon, or at least until that "certifiably insane" Selection Committee retires.

"That man was violating a city ordinance, and I was just doing my duty to enforce it." - Mike Curtis

"..because anytime you go upside a man's head, or a woman's, they have a tendency to blink their eyes.." - Deacon Jones

just ran out of gas, hope we get a decent seed on sunday

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

A few extra days off isn't the worst thing that could happen to this team right now.

"And then the real chess match began." - Justin Fuente

Yes, I was thinking the same thing. Team looked gassed. Would have been nice to go further into the tournament, but with only a 7-man rotation, we'll need all the rest we can get until we get to the Sweet 16.

"That man was violating a city ordinance, and I was just doing my duty to enforce it." - Mike Curtis

"..because anytime you go upside a man's head, or a woman's, they have a tendency to blink their eyes.." - Deacon Jones

Good effort from a team that just looked gassed as a result of lack of depth and FSU is just so much taller. It almost seemed that their smallest player was the same height as our tallest player. There are few things you can't teach, and height is one of them. I wouldn't be surprised if FSU made a sweet 16 run and maybe better, they are very talents and have the athleticism and height to go head to head with any teams out there.

Looking forward to Sunday though. Isn't it so nice to not worry about if we made it or not, but what we are seeded and how the matchups set up against us in our side of the bracket. Lets go Hokies!!!

Bleeding burnt orange and chicago maroon

It depends on FSUs seeding. Their offense is not very ingenious. FSUs D is good because of that size advantage (especially against a team like ours with no size), but their offense is lacking much more than a couple passes and then get it inside. If they get a decent defensive team with a bit of size in the 2nd round they are toast.
If we would have hit a couple threes in the second half and taken better care of the ball through that stretch, we win that game. We came back and were in reach and then that no call when Seth was fouled driving the basket with about 30 seconds left, that was a killer.
When they spread there zone so we couldn't get many open threes there was a lot of room in the post, but we didn't have the size to take advantage of it.

Pain is Temporary
Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever
Let's Go Hokies!!

FSUs D is good because of that size advantage (especially against a team like ours with no size)

Pain is Temporary
Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever
Let's Go Hokies!!

Watching FSU reminds me a lot of when we won the little league championship in 7th grade. Another kid and I were the tallest kids in school at the time and we happened to wind up on the same team. Both of us were lanky and uncoordinated. We won the championship simply because no one could out-rebound us. He would stand on one side of the basket and I on the other and we would throw the ball up until it went in.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used."
- The BoD

That's a bit of a bummer. We were still getting good looks, the shooting just fell flat. It happens. Just stinks it had to be now. Rest up good so those fresh legs can get a deep run in the Big Dance

"A minor setback for a major comeback"
-Macho Harris

"Jerod Evans had more moves on that run than Bayer has aspirin!"

-Mike Burnop, 9/24/2016

" "A minor setback for a major comeback"
-Macho Harris"

- Michael Scott

Thought we played pretty well even with some shots not falling and foul trouble. Also thought that FSU played poorly. Given all their talent and the mismatches they should've steamrolled us. Leonard Hamilton can only squander so much talent, at some point the talent overcomes his inability to coach.

Outside its night time, but inside its LeDay

The quintessential Hamilton team. Ridiculously talented, tragically undercoached.

I would've loved for them to be in the second leg of that doubleheader tomorrow, following the Classic Duke-UNC rivalry. I think it would've really meant a lot to this fanbase. Had tickets to go (bought them before Duke won this afternoon), but now am stuck selling them (But at least I'll get a little profit from it).

I think there were some valuable lessons learned from this game. I think Leday learned that this team can not afford for him to give frustration fouls (it's one thing if he had some hard fouls, but a few of them were ticky tac).

I also am waiting for more out of Hill. He's one of the best players on the team at driving to the basket, but you can tell that he's not confident in taking leadership of the team (like Bibbs, Allen, Leday and Robinson have been doing fine at). We need him to be that fifth leader to make this team complete. I kind of think of Outlaw as the "sixth man", he's solid but isn't going to take control of the team.

Hoping for a 7 or 10 seed to stay out of the dreaded 8/9 game, but I guess the excitement of being an 8/9 seed is having the dream of crushing a one seeds dreams.

If I went down the line of one seeds, I think they would have their best shot against Kansas or Nova. I think they'd be pretty screwed against Zags or Tar Heels.

On the two line they could challenge Kentucky, UCLA or Oregon. Louisville or Baylor would give them fits.

Just pointing out the matchups in the case that they do get past their first opponent.

I am pretty sure there is a rule preventing conference matchups in the first 2 rounds so we would not be paired up with UNC or Louisville.

It depends, but there's a chance because we've only played each of those teams once this season.

From the NCAA's website:

Each of the first four teams selected from a conference shall be placed in different regions if they are seeded on the first four lines.

Teams from the same conference shall not meet prior to the regional final if they played each other three or more times during the regular season and conference tournament.

Teams from the same conference shall not meet prior to the regional semifinals if they played each other twice during the regular season and conference tournament.

Teams from the same conference may play each other as early as the second round if they played no more than once during the regular season and conference tournament.

Any principle can be relaxed if two or more teams from the same conference are among the last four at-large seeded teams participating in the First Four.

I believe exceptions to that exist.

If teams only played once in the regular season or if more than a certain number (9?) of teams from the same conference make the Dance.

The last part makes more sense, if you had 10-11 teams from one conference go, it would very difficult to position them without the possibility of a 2nd round (or is it technically 3rd now with the First Four counting as a round?) matchup

They changed it. First Four is First Four and First Round is First Round.

Outside its night time, but inside its LeDay

Looks like Duke and Arizona have hopped Oregon, UCLA and Louisville potentially. I don't like Duke or Arizona for the Hokies to match up with.

Hoping to be put in Kentucky or Novas region. Kentucky makes a lot of mistakes and Nova isn't a huge team.

VT is 0-0 in the dance.

I'll take it!

So, if I'm reading this right. The only team to win having played the night before is Duke. What a lame format. What's so wrong with a normal 16 team bracket with a bye for the number 1 seed?

We win this game if we were a little fresher/FSU had had to play the night before.

/salt

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I'm OK with the format. If the ACC isn't going to recognize a regular season champ then the next best thing is to give them a big advantage in winning the conference tourney. The one thing it does show is that the first round games are just a money grab because those teams have no shot at winning 5 games in 5 days.

teams have no shot at winning 5 games in 5 days.

Kemba Walker would like a word with you.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

I think the Kemba and Napier led UCONN teams had some rare magic to them.

I believe the ACC actually does recognize the regular season champion, as you get a trophy and a banner, but they put the most emphasis (and the auto bid) on the tournament champion.

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

I agree that it's bullshit every time Duke wins.

/intentional misread

21st century QBs Undefeated vs UVA:
MV7, MV5, LT3, Michael Brewer, Tyrod Taylor, Sean Glennon, and Grant Noel. That's right, UVA. You couldn't beat Grant Noel.

I think it's a good format. You reward the teams who played better in the regular season with an extra night or two of rest. It places more emphasis on doing well in the regular season, which is a good thing in my book.

I see two problems with a regular 16-team bracket. Obviously, we don't have 16 teams, for starters. Then there's the issue of logistics. The first round will have 7 games (8 if got a 16th team). That's too many for one day in a single arena, if you plan to televise the games. Nobody's going to pay big bucks for the TV rights to a 10:00 am game. So now you're left with either playing the first round in multiple arenas, or spreading it out over two days. That does nothing to eliminate the disadvantage of some teams having more rest than their opponents. The teams who won on Day 1 would still get that advantage, but it wouldn't be awarded based on season-long performance, but rather the luck of the draw with regard to which games the conference decided to put on that first day.

“You got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

Four games on Monday, Four games on Tuesday. Down to 8 teams.

Winners from Monday play on Wednesday, Winners from Tuesday play on Thursday. Down to 4 teams

Two games on Saturday, and 1 game on Sunday. Still done during Spring Break.

I'm with you on this. I think things are more equal when everyone's played a similar number of games. I have two ideas on this, actually:

Idea #1:
-teams travel on Sunday to the tournament location, have media day Monday along with their walk through
-On Tuesday you play the 1 - 16 (currently a bye), 8 - 9, 4 - 13 and 5 - 12 games.
-On Wednesday you play the 2 - 15, 7 - 10, 6 - 11 and 3 - 14 games
-The winners get a day of rest on Thursday for another walk through, enjoy the city, etc.
-Friday you play the quarterfinals
-Saturday the semi-finals
-Sunday, just like the old ACC tournament, you play the Championship game around noon or so Eastern.
-Because there's only 15 teams at the moment, the #1 seed won't play until Friday at the latest.

The other idea is to have all of the opening round games at the sites of the individual schools, either:
-split on Monday/Tuesday like above,
-everyone travels to the tournament site Wednesday with Media Day Thursday
-Quarterfinals Friday, semi-finals Saturday, Sunday finals

OR

-all games played either Monday OR Tuesday due to eight different venues
-travel day the following day, media day two days after the opening round is played
-quarterfinals either Thursday or Friday, tournament either finished in prime-time on Saturday or Sunday afternoon.

Pros
* Everyone plays the same number of games
* Everyone (except your #1 seed) has a similar amount of rest going into the quarterfinals
* because of the bye, your #1 seed has improved odds of winning due to automatic entry into the quarterfinals and extra rest
* most of your teams and fans will probably favor this

Cons
* extra travel expenses in the campus site then tournament site model
* the "name schools" won't be in favor of this model because it's one more game they'll typically have to play
* TV and conference offices will be against this model because of either:
a. the break between the opening round and quarterfinals (despite the NCAA Tournament does this for every round)
b. the possibility of having to travel to eight different sites for the opening round (and possibly all on the same day)
* #1 seed doesn't play for almost a week, so has to deal with possible rust in first game while every other team has played a game going in
* fans of teams that make the quarterfinals have an additional day of expenses due to the break

Scary to think what this team might be capable of in 2-3 years when we are playing more than 7 players...

I can imagine no more rewarding a career. And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction:
“I served in the United States Navy"

KCCO

Even next year, with a rotation that could include:

Main ball handler: Rob, Bede
Other guard: Hill, Wilson, Jackson
Shooter: Bibbs, NAW
Other Shooter/Chris Clarke: Outlaw, Clarke, LeDay2, Horne
Big Guy: KJB, Sy, Fullard

We don't know what Bede, Jackson, NAW, LeDay2 or Horne can give us.
- Hopefully Bede a bit of a sparkplug , much like Childress was for Wake this year (or Rob was last year).

- Can Jackson provide the get-to-the-rim like his brother does at GT? That would really help offset the Allen loss.

- NAW is the most acclaimed player to enter our program since DFS, but with a lot more offensive skill....he could end up starting.

-I don't want to put too much pressure on LeDay2 since his brother exceeded expectations by so much, but if he's crafty inside with some outside game, he will be really useful.

- Horne looks like a classicly overlooked player, in the Zach LeDay mold. Undersized bigs are Buzz's specialty. He may not provide much early in his career, but he has interesting potential.

- Fullard can provide Hamilton/Pierce deep depth....maybe.

Not all will be contributors, but we could see 10 deep next year.

If NAW truly does have the A+ offensive game that recruiting experts say he does, I don't see any way he doesn't come in and start from Day 1. And if this is the case and he is that good, things get interesting for next year. You have JRob, who not only is a fantastic distributor, but he also seemed to have found his shooting game this year. When he takes it to the rim, he can make some downright unreal shots. Then you have NAW, and if his game is all that, he starts and is the playmaker next year taking the focus from the defense. This should allow guys like Outlaw and Bibbs to get open often, and they have proven the ability to consistently decimate teams from deep. And then you have a combination of Blackshear and a Sy who has had a year to put some weight on his bones down low to muscle up some rebounds?

I mean, that's a pretty complete roster right there, and that's taking the possibility of Clarke missing the season into consideration. I don't want to get too far ahead of ourselves, but I really do think we're on the verge of VT basketball making a legitimate name for itself.

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

I still see a small Buzz-like lineup with something like J-Rob, Hill, Bibbs, Clarke, and Blackshear starting. Sy, Outlaw, and NAW are top 3 off the bench, then we've got plenty of fresh legs behind all of them to play 5-10 mpg as well.

I have no problem with a small lineup if we can still roll 2 or 3 deep with size down low to protect the paint. Outlaw off the bend might not be the worst thing, as we can bring him in to deliver some knock out blows after we've allowed ourselves to settle into the game. That being said, I have really liked the way he's been playing over the last few weeks of the year, and if he plays like that next year, he'll be a bench player in the same sense that Allen and LeDay have been bench players for us this year.

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

I think we'll see Outlaw starting. Buzz has said that bringing him off the bench, and not knowing when he's going to get pulled, kills his confidence. For him to get on those hot streaks, he needs to be playing from the get go and not have a short leash for missed shots.

Always choose joy.

I think he's good enough to start, it's just that we have so many wing players his size that it will be tough for him to start ahead of Bibbs, Hill, and either Clarke or NAW.

Missed shots is only a part of the issue with Outlaw. He has certainly taken advantage of his time on the court over the past few weeks, and I think that is a big reason we have had the success we've had.

However, his downside has other nuances than simply missing shots. He doesn't seem to understand spacing on the defensive end as he is regularly in the wrong spot and giving up easy/open shots. He is also a catch and shoot only guy. He is a huge liability when the ball is in his hands, extremely indecisive and turnover prone.

I think if Buzz has other options, he still will not be a starter next year.

Is it football season yet?

Don't undersell the importance of Ty missing out on all that time due to his medical situation. I would not be surprised to see him benefit a lot from workouts and unofficial practices this offseason in regards to his positioning. I get the feeling coaches were more concerned with getting him into game shape this past offseason rather than teaching him the nuances of the game.

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

Well, I don't think it matters who "starts" with Buzz. Sy is a starter, Hamilton was a starter.

But I agree with you that we got the best out of Outlaw in this stretch. He's got big holes in his game, but frankly....so do most Buzz Williams players. We could see, if Clarke is healthy, Outlaw and Bibbs rotating at the 3, NAW and Hill at the 2 and Rob and Bede at the point....and Clarke playing a lot of minutes with some time for LeDay2 or Horne.

Quick guess on mpgs:
Point: Rob (30), Bede (10)
SG: Hill (25), Wilson (10), NAW (5)
3-man: Bibbs (25), NAW (10), Outlaw (5)
4-man: Clarke (25), Outlaw (10), LeDay2 (5)
5-man: KJB (25), Sy (15)

I think by the end of the year NAW will be getting a lot more minutes than in the beginning. I'd say I agree that he will probably average 15 or so, but I think he starts the year closer to 10 and finishes closer to 20 or so.

In Sam Rogers we trust.

Quick guess on mpgs:
Point: Rob (30), Bede (10)
SG: Hill (25), Wilson (10), NAW (5)
3-man: Bibbs (25), NAW (10), Outlaw (5)
4-man: Clarke (25), Outlaw (10), LeDay2 (5)
5-man: KJB (25), Sy (15)

You're missing Jackson, and Clarke will be recovering from his ACL next season.

I think it will go somewhat along the lines you have laid out but Jackson will avg 20min per game.

PG - Robinson 20, Jackson 15, Bede 5
SGx2 - Bibbs 30, NAW 20, Hill 15, Robinson 10, Jackson 5
G/F - Hill 15, Outlaw 15, LeDay 10
PF - Blackshear 20, LeDay 10, Sy 10

totals:
Robinson: 30
Jackson: 20
Bede: 5

Bibbs: 30
Hill: 30
NAW: 20
Outlaw: 15

Blackshear: 20
LeDay: 20
Sy: 10

I wasn't missing Jackson, I'm just not expecting him to be much of a contributor next year. He's a project, it may take some time for him to develop. Bede is a top 70 player. Pig is top 350. His recruitment was unusual because he qualified late but did have spring interest from Wichita and Auburn.

I don't know what to expect from LeDay2, his tape is good and his brother waaayyyy overachieved. That said, I would be very surprised if he logs the same mins as KJB if KJB is healthy.

Clarke recovery should get him back in the lineup by December at the latest. This post by a TSL regular who is a college assistant is good reading for the typical recovery timeframe for ACL injuries for hoops. A quick google on basketball ACL recovery yields the same result. Clarke should be cleared by late August.

I understand VT hoops fans being skeptical on medicals, but Outlaw and KJBs situation were very unique. CCs injury, from what we know, is standard for an injury that occurs frequently.

Agree. Clarke's injury rehab is an unknown at this point though, so we'll see how that shakes out. At the very least, we know from the start of the year that we've got 7 solid contributors which is an excellent foundation.

Jackson, Bede and Wilson's playing time will be interesting to follow. I love Wilson's commitment to the team, but if he's a non-shooter next year then his role is likely going to be pretty limited, or at least based on matchups when you need an extra defender. Then you've got Jackson who's supposedly balling out in practice, but how does that translate to games? And does Bede actually get run as a true freshman? Beyond Clarke's availability, these are the biggest questions I have for next season.

It will be tough to play Wilson and Clarke together, but they both can facilitate.

Even with the relative depth we had last year (we played 10 players regularly, not include Satch), Wilson got 21.5 mpg. That's 1.5 mpg more than Hudson got.

I have a feeling Wilson will be a much bigger factor next year than many are imagining at this point.

I'd put Clarke's chances of playing next season at 5%. ACL is a 1-year recovery to be a contributor that puts him more than halfway through the season. Sitting out the year gives him another 6-7 months to get in shape for fall camp 2018. I'd be very surprised if he doesn't redshirt. We still have 12 potential contributors depending on how the freshmen step up. Jackson has been a beast in practice from what I've read, gets to the rim with ease against our other players (not that they are great defenders, but still.) LeDay I haven't heard as much about but it's been positive. Not sure we can expect him to be as much of a junkyard dog as his older brother, but he also may have a better jumper. I just hope he can set solid screens and has the hands to receive the pass while diving to the rim.

Even without Clarke, depth will be much improved. 4 players at each main position (ball handler, guard, forward) giving Buzz a lot of flexibility to build a lineup that features the best chemistry and/or matchup for a particular game. Also a better position to be in if someone goes down with an injury. Fullard may also be a more realistic contributor than Galloway & Donlon have been.

2017-18 Roster
PG:
1. Robinson [6-1 JR]
2. Jackson [6-1 rFR
3. Wilson [6-3 rSR]
4. Bede [6-1 FR] (RS?)

G/F:
5. Bibbs [6-5 SR]
6. Outlaw [6-6 rSR]
7. Hill [6-4 rJR],
8. NAW [6-5 FR]
x. Clarke [6-6, rSO] [injured]

F/C:
9. Blackshear [6-10 rSO]
10. Sy [6-10 SO]
11. LeDay [6-7 rJR]
12. Horne [6-6 FR] (RS?)
x. Fullard [6-10 rJR] (WO)

vs

2016-17 Roster, end of season Team
PG:
1. Robinson
2. Allen

G/F:
3. Bibbs,
4. Hill,
5. Outlaw
x. Clarke [injured]
x. Galloway (WO)

F/C:
6. LeDay
7. Sy
x. Blackshear [injured]
x. Donlon (WO)

I am with you on Clarke. The potential of a 16 month (year plus off season) recovery sounds better than rushing him back.

Bede's a top 100 recruit, no way he redshirts

Outside its night time, but inside its LeDay

It will be interesting to see how much he pushes Robinson and Jackson. We often run dual point guards so there's probably 60 minutes to divvy up between the 3 of them.

Actually, I would like to see Wilson in there more next year, probably as a 6th or 7th man at point. His assist-to-turnover ratio as the main ball-handler was the best of any Hokie in several years, and his on-ball defense is better than anyone else on the current roster, with the possible exception of JRobb. A big problem with the Hokie guards this year was poor ball management, especially with our seniors. We have had way too many empty trips because of poor ball security. Buzz knew what he was doing when he suggested Wilson redshirt. The other thing that is missing with this year's team is consistent defense, which is uncharacteristic for a Buzz team.

With his extra strength from football, I could see a good rotation of JRobb and Wilson, and when we need key defensive stops, the two of them in there could cause real havoc. Assuming we are healthy next year, I expect to see Buzz get back to his signature 9-10 man rotation that he used so successfully at Marquette.

JRob isn't a good on ball defender. He gambles too much and gets beat away from the help fairly regularly. He gets a good amount of steals because he's got good hands but he's not good on that end of the floor imo. Minutes will be there for the freshman and Wilson (if he's here) if they can commit on that end of the floor

I agree, I could see Wilson stepping in as a guard version of Clarke next year. And he gets to the rim better than Hill or Bibbs. That's really going to be a skill we need to replace after Allen leaves.

I haven't seen LeDay2 play at all, but he doesn't have near the size his brother has. He will have to be shooter or will need to be a freakish athlete (think Chris Clark) in order to see substantial time next year IMO.

Is it football season yet?

The boys played their heearts out last night. Great effort. Officiating was terrible especially in the 2nd half. There was no consistantcy in their calls. just because you aree tall doesn't mean you didn't foul ( seth allen at the end of the game). In the end, it gives us a chance to rest up and heal. Go Hokies!!

FSU is so overstatedly long..... this is all I could think of when VT tried to drive the lane.

via GIPHY

"Welcome to the Terror Dome." -- Corey Moore

Don't let this distract you from the fact that the Monstars blew a 66-18 Halftime lead

Found this cool picture of the guys in FSU's rotation at the 4 and 5.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

I thought we played about as well as you could hope, we just ran out of gas late. Yes, FSU struggled a bit, but I believe that had a lot to do with the defense we were playing, and the fact they haven't really been shooting all that well over the last few games. When we went zone and forced them to go with jumpers rather than take it inside, it really messed with what they wanted to do. Had we not been relying on essentially a 6 or 7 man rotation having played the night before, we probably come away with the win.

The good thing is... man, this team is going to be good in the future. Outlaw has shown over the last couple nights that he wasn't just riding a hot streak over the last few games of the regular season, his shot really is that good. He has also been getting his nose dirty getting rebounds, and I think he's finally beginning to find his game. If he can continue this progression through the summer, he's going to be a special player for us the next couple seasons. And I can't wait to see what Sy can do after a year of collegiate weight training. Put some muscle on that kid, and he's going to be a very good player in this league. Combine that with Blackshear returning, and we might turn a weakness down low into a strength next season. Don't need to talk about Robinson, because I think he's already turning into one of the better distributors in the league. He's finding open guys all over the place, the only problem is that those guys aren't expecting the passes. And this isn't even talking about the guys we haven't seen suiting up for the Hokies, yet, either through redshirt or being a current recruit.

Enjoy this postseason. We're just starting to scratch the surface on what this program is capable of under Buzz. And the fun thing is, depending on where we're seeded, this team is playing at a level right now where advancing to the 2nd weekend isn't ridiculous to consider.

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

Unfortunately Ty is a R-Junior so we only have one more season of him.

If UVA is going to be a 5/6 seed. We should be a 7/8 seed at worst.

Matty Ballgame

Losing always sucks, but bright side is we aren't done playing yet and LOLuva lost too.

Great heart! My only criticism is the shot selection of the 3's and the turnovers. MAN, we turned the ball over a TON!

Proud of these hokies, and I'm looking forward to cracking open a few to celebrate Sunday.

My only criticism is the shot selection of the 3's

I agree. I missed the first half but the shot selection in the 2nd kinda baffled me. I remember Buzz saying sometime in the last couple weeks that Seth Allen is a "recovering bad shot addict". I think he may have had a bit of a relapse during stretches of that 2nd half last night. There were several shots where he just pulled up off the dribble and quickly took an off-balance shot, like you would when racing the shot clock. But there was plenty of time to look for a better shot or make the pass.

“You got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

The only thing holding me back from saying we should have won that game is the fact we don't have FSU's height advantage and we were gassed. Now, on the other hand, we definitely could have won that game. Too many turnovers in the second half, many missed 3s, and LeDay being taken out due to the quick fouls is what allowed FSU to go on their victory run. It'll be tough to play up to team's like FSU with the size advantage, but I like the way we move the ball (when we don't turn it over), and I feel like we have a chance to get hot and surprise some teams.

Jerry Palm's latest projections have us as the 2nd number 7 seed... and UVA as the 3rd 7 seed.

In Sam Rogers we trust.

Don't know if anyone else has noticed, but Michigan has been improving our resume all weekend.

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

Yeah, I want them to win the Big 10, 11, 12....! OK, so math is not that conference's strong suit. ;-)