After Hokies "Whupped" UVA, Recruits Come Away Impressed with Tech's "Dominant Offense"

By beating the Hoos 52-10, the Hokies put on quite the show for the recruits in attendance at Lane.

2018 OL John Harris first visited Tech back in July before returning for the UVA game. [@_johnnyharris_]

When you invite dozens of top recruits for a game against your hated in-state rival, a 52-10 final score is just about the best result you could possibly hope for as a coaching staff.

The Hokies certainly did not lack for motivation to beat UVA for the 13th straight year, but Justin Fuente and company had to know just how good it might look for Tech to lay the smack down on the Hoos with so many prominent visitors in the house.

"They whupped them pretty good," 2018 LB Dax Hollifield of Shelby (N.C.) HS told The Key Play. "You could tell their fans were excited to be playing UVA, and they were even more excited after the game after they whupped them like that. It was probably the best atmosphere, other than the Miami night game, that I've been to at Virginia Tech."

For players on the offensive side of the ball like 2018 OG John Harris of Hoschton, Ga.'s Mill Creek HS, Tech's high-scoring performance was even more impressive.

"Basically, they just dominated," Harris said. "They did whatever they wanted to do, which is good to see from my end. When you put up 52 points, it's always good to see that because you know you're going to a place that has a good, dominant offense."

Harris has gotten to see a pair of explosive performances from the Hokies this year — his other visit to Lane Stadium came as the Hokies beat down Boston College 49-0 in September. But even during his second visit, he found the team's entrance just as impressive as anything they did on the field.

"I'd always heard it was crazy when they first run out to 'Enter Sandman,' but seeing it firsthand, it was crazy just how loud everyone was," Harris said.

As a VT legacy with numerous visits under his belt, 2017 ATH Dazz Newsome of Hampton HS wasn't quite as surprised by the atmosphere, but was excited to see it nonetheless.

"They never have a bad day at Lane Stadium, it's always a good day," Newsome said. "Especially when they're playing a rival like UVA and they win by 50-something....The offense did whatever they wanted to do."

But for all the offense's dominance, 2017 RB Jalen Holston of Stockbridge (Ga.) HS said Justin Fuente and RBs coach Zohn Burden felt like the team's 289 yards on the ground weren't enough to match what the Hokies were capable of.

"The running game looked excellent to me, but Coach Burden and Coach Fuente were kind of mad because they felt like they left a lot of yards on the field," Holston said. "But to me it looked really good, and the offense looked electrifying."

Holston got plenty of time to discuss the running game with Fuente and his potential future position coach over the course of the whole weekend, since he was in town for his official visit. On Sunday, Burden even sat with him to show Holston how he could've helped the Hokies pick up those yards they might've left on the field.

"We actually broke down film from the UVA game that they'd played the day before, and he was just telling me that that's why they're recruiting guys like me," Holston said. "He was showing me things they could've done better and that he feels like I could do better in the future. And he was just talking about trying to get me up there even more, even trying to get me to commit."

Fuente was even more direct with Holston in the pair's roughly hour-long meeting before the RB headed to the airport to head home.

"Coach Fuente has always told me that I'm the missing key in the offense that they need, and he feels I could help take them to the next level, to a national championship," Holston said. "The recruiting class that they have coming in has a lot of offensive players and he wants me to be one of those guys that takes them to a championship."

But the Hokies' coaches could only go so far in describing what it's like to actually be a player in Blacksburg. That's where Holston's hosts, CB Greg Stroman and OL D'Andre Plantin, came in.

"They got to show me college life and how the atmosphere was at night after the game," Holston said. "Even though that was just my first time meeting them, it just felt like family. I felt like I'd known those guys for years. It was great."

By contrast, Newsome got to spend some time with actual family on the trip — his brother Deon is a backup rover for the Hokies. Yet the Maryland commit also got to catch up with Burden (his area recruiter) for a bit, and press him for details on when a VT offer might come his way.

"He said basically the same thing he's been saying for a while, to give it time and an offer was going to be there," Newsome said.

Turns out Burden didn't need much time at all to produce a scholarship for the younger Newsome — the Hokies turned right around and offered him three days after the game.

"I was pretty excited, I wasn't expecting anything," Newsome said. "They offered me as an athlete, so I can play wherever. But I think I'd fit more on the offensive side."

Newsome isn't quite willing to say the offer will change his status as a Terp commit just yet, but it's clear that Tech finally pulling the trigger will have an impact on his final decision.

"I feel like now I'm still committed to Maryland," Newsome said. "But it's a great feeling to know I could play with my brother, and one of my old teammates, Jovonn Quillen."

Now, he's planning an official visit to Tech on Jan. 20 and he suddenly sees his recruitment process dragging out quite a bit longer than he originally anticipated.

"I should end up scheduling some more (visits)," Newsome said. "So you never know what happens between now and signing day. I guess just stay tuned between now and signing day."

Holston doesn't want to wait quite that long to make his commitment, stressing that he'll "definitely be committing to a school before signing day."

"But my team is still in a playoff run, we have two more games before the state championship, so I'm trying to get it all figured out before the end of December," Holston said. "Probably the middle of December before Christmas."

He can't be sure that his trip to Blacksburg will end up being his last visit before he makes his decision, but it would seem that the Hokies did enough on his official visit to make Tech his team to beat.

"I'm still planning some, talking to a lot of schools, but a lot of schools would have to beat out Tech on their visit," Holston said. "I'd say that was actually the best visit I've been on."

For juniors like Harris, the timeline is just a bit different, but he seems similarly comfortable with the Hokies.

He says Tech first reached out to him in the spring, and he got to meet the coaches for the first time at one of the program's satellite camps in Atlanta in June.

"It gave me a good chance to work with Coach (Vance) Vice and see how he coaches," Harris said. "They just think I have really good feet and good footwork. I just fit well with their idea of what they want to build."

The coaches then convinced him to visit Blacksburg with his family for a small scale trip in July, and get his first look at campus.

"I loved everything," Harris said. "The campus was beautiful and the city was beautiful. And the food was really, really good."

Fuente then proceeded to offer Harris in person, and he came away especially impressed with his demeanor as a coach.

"He's really laid back when you talk to him, but when it's time for a game, he gets into it," Harris said. "It always seems like he's always positive with his guys, he's not negative towards them, which is really good. Because when a coach just yells at you all the time, it sometimes doesn't go over well with other players, so it's always good to see him teaching and coaching and just being positive with players."

Now, he's hoping to return to Tech for a junior day in February, with visits to Wake Forest, Clemson, Duke, UNC, Rutgers and "probably some others" also on tap.

Hollifield has a similar plan in mind. He expects to swing by junior days at VT, South Carolina and UNC this winter. But he has a specific goal in mind for his trip to Blacksburg.

"I like Virginia Tech's basketball atmosphere a lot, they get really into that too," Hollifield said. "I love basketball in general. I'd love to go up there and see a game. I went to the Clemson game last year and the atmosphere was crazy, they were going wild."

But it's no mistake that Hollifield tabbed those three schools for winter visits — he feels "pretty sure" they make up his top three. Though he plenty of time left to make his final decision, he thinks he's starting to get close.

"Those are the teams that I try go to visit most often," Hollifield said. "Those are the three schools I see myself playing at the most."

Comments

Great writeup!

On Dazz Newsome, I'm not sure how I feel about offering a player who is committed to another team, but on the other hand it appears he was angling for an offer. The whole recruiting process just seems odd and possibly shady to me.

It's how the game is played. How many times has VT identified a talented kid early in the process, then suddenly he's got a dozen more offers and he goes elsewhere because a bigger school came calling? Nothing is done until it's signed on the dotted line. To wave off a kid because he's "committed" elsewhere is basically just giving up when it comes to recruiting.

"Exit light..."

My thoughts on VT starting to act like our peers in recruiting

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

Starting? VT's been doing it for awhile. Kyshoen Jarett and Dadi Nicholas were flips - among others. Jonathon McGlaughlin was a flip. Isaiah Ford was a flip. Darius Fullwood. Chris Durkin. It's nothing new.

I don't know about others, but specifically for Ford wasn't he a flip only because Charlie Strong left Louisville?

But even in that case it just shows even more why you need to pursue the "committed" players; coaching changes happen all the time and the schools in the position to take advantage of them will benefit.

Have we lost any big verbals to UNC yet? Fedora is a hot name circulating out there and that kind of situation could be on the table again, I'd say.

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I honestly think Fedora would be a great fit at Baylor, ...football wise. But i haven't heard anything about him leaving to go anywhere, just speculation from fans.

From what i read, he didn't do anything to bolster his resume this year, so he'll probably be back at UNC for another year.

Or Oregon, they love visors there.

Flips happen for all kinds of reasons. Coaching changes are common ones. And considering that >50% of P5 programs have a different head coach (let alone various coordinators & position coaches) every 5 years, it's not surprising.

Yes, Ford was due, at least in part, to Strong leaving.

I know it's how the game is played. I think it's part of the reason I don't really like to follow recruiting, other than my local high schools, because it's all smoke and mirrors and kids committing to one school while openly courting others, and the whole system plays into that.

I have no illusions, if we don't play the game we'll get left behind. And, if I try really hard I can remember parts of what being 16 was like. I was born a Hokie and never for a second even considered applying anywhere else, but everything else was prone to change on a moment's notice. I believe that a lot of these kids don't really understand what "commitment" means (I know I certainly didn't at that age), and modern recruiting feeds off of that.

I'm not sure exactly what my main point is, other than that I don't really like the spotlight put on recruiting in this day and age. I think I was happier when social media didn't give us 24/7 access to the recruiting process, and major updates seemed a lot more "final".

believe that a lot of these kids don't really understand what "commitment" means

If schools can offer a scholarship and then turn around and tell the kid "Yeah, actually you were our back up option so your offer actually isn't valid anymore" then I have zero problem with a kid "committing" to a school while still courting others.

Yeah, that's part of the "shady" aspect of recruiting that I don't like. Guess the misunderstanding of what "commitment" means isn't limited to the high school kids in these cases.

I just don't like the entire process, but I don't know exactly what I'd replace it with and I guess it's a necessary evil, so I'll just go back to quietly ignoring most of what happens until after NSD.

Is it a necessary evil though? I think both of our complaints could be solved (or at least greatly reduced) by an early signing period. With the possibility of a kid actually committing and signing and therefore being locked in, I think those coaches that extend those non-committable offers would drastically cut back on them.

It would help a bit. Wouldn't fix everything, but it's probably a step in the right direction.

Isn't Feb 1 early enough? For a kid who is 17-18 and graduates in May or June to enroll in August for college - 6 months later? The last thing teenagers need is more pressure to make life decisions, earlier in life

I think it will reduce the pressure, because it will force coaches to be more judicious with their offers. Only the diehard kids, the ones who know where they're going for sure, are going to really make use of the early signing period. If it exists, then it's going to discourage Alabama from throwing out 200 offers because if a bunch of those kids sign early, you risk missing out on prospects who will take more visits. Hence they will give out fewer offers in the process. Ultimately, I think this would de-escalate the current recruiting arms race, and safeguards can easily be put into place for issues regarding coaching changes, failure to qualify, legal issues and NCAA investigations, etc.

"Exit light..."

Or Alabama just uses it as another pressure tactic "Better sign now or else" I think you will have all the blue bloods fill up their rosters early on with all the highest rated kids and then the rest to leftovers, as a 4* maybe you don't want to wait and see who has room left after early signing period and you haven't had time to visit multiple schools for whatever reason (some guys take all their officials in Jan after their season has ended too) and they don't find out that a second tier still really good school is actually a better fit for them personally. I don't think anything de-escalates the recruiting wars, and AL and FSU and OSU are still going to get theirs. The concept seems as or more restrictive to the players as it does to the schools.

And Frank supports an early signing period.

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It's sad that both sides play this same game. It's also discouraging that they are redefining the word commitment. And we wonder why commitments are so hard for people to keep in other areas of life.

A little OT here, but speaks to different concepts of "commitment". I once practiced every Sunday for a full year, a 50 mile round trip from home, with a band. We had our problems with personnel, and after that year, we had played one gig, and were four hours late for it because our bass player was on call and a water main burst the day of the party. I decided that I had had enough, and left (with no gigs scheduled). For several years afterward, several musicians who I believe should have known better labeled me as someone with a "lack of commitment".
If all it means is that you don't get what you want from someone else, regardless of their self interest, then it is definitely being redefined.

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I believe that a lot of these kids don't really understand what "commitment" means

Commitments before signing day or early enrollment are a lot like dating. A lot of kids will commit to one of the first schools that show interest, but that doesn't mean that it's necessarily the school they want to permanently go to.

I know this is how the game works, but it does reinforce a bad character traits of 'commitment'. They are just kids but should have learned and understand what a commitment is. If they are not sure, don't say you've committed.

I hate the "I'll commit to this, until something 'better' comes along". This is a bigger issue that exetends beyond football...

Ok, I'll get off my soap box.

But they're learning other life tools. Like bargaining and negotiating.

See the problem is with us using the word "commit." It's not a commitment, it's a verbal pledge that when February rolls around you'll sign your NLI with that program. And you know what? People change their minds all the time. You can think you've 100% made your decision and you're locked in and then something happens to shatter that. In this case, maybe you see something on the field you don't like, maybe you start hearing things coming out of the locker room that disturb you. Maybe, just maybe, some of those things disturb you enough that you decide "Wow, okay, I really thought I liked this place, now I'm not so sure."

But beyond that, with all of the shady stuff that a lot of programs do to recruit players (like...scroll up to see my comment above, think about grayshirting, think about recruits driving up in Lambos) people want to complain about a high schooler changing their mind. C'mon.

See the problem is with us using the word "commit." It's not a commitment, it's a verbal pledge

And the actual commitment is called a "letter of intent." The vocabulary is exactly backward. The oral statement is a statement of intent. The letter is a commitment.

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What if we were waiting for test scores to come back? Apparently SAT scores came back right before the recent offers had all been put out

He has family ties. If he can help our team, offer. I don't care about the Terps long term success, I care about VTs.

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The Terps have long term success?

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His decision was made after a phone call with longtime Virginia Tech assistant coach Bud Foster. All Foster told him was, "We win. They don't."

Nice write up, man. Hope we can lock up John Harris ASAP - football games are won and lost in the trenches. #BigNasty

The kid is a dude.... in a very good way. My daughter plays in the Mill Creek band and in the state quarter final game last Friday, we played McEachern which is loaded with some Div 1 talent on both sides of the ball as well. Harris was lined up as the LT most of the night and drew their best DE for the matchup. Harris frustrated him all night and pancaked him numerous times. On one occasion he drove him ten yards downfield and then absolutely planted him. He was so frustrated he got up swinging and added a 15 yd unsportmanlike penalty to an already nice 21 yd run. Their coach pulled the guy for the rest of that series to try and calm him down (we scored), but you could tell Harris was in his head and owned him the rest of the game. We play the #6 team in the country tonight in the semis (we are ranked #35) and hopefully this year we get to the 7A finals (top level in GA). I'll try to give you a post. If you go to the Maxpreps pages for Mill Creek, they have video highlights of Harris linked to him on the roster page. I'd be curious to get French's impressions of his performance against what was supposed to be a top talent.

Lets GO!!!!

Love it! Great story man! Can't wait to get this kid on the field. Hope it all works out.

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Harris played well in a losing effort. Grayson beat Mill Creek 44-26 but the score does not give the whole story. The teams were separated by 2 pts with less than 5 minutes left in the first half when Grayson broke lose for a TD, stripped a receiver of the ball and returned it for a TD and broke a long (42 YD) run for a TD to take a dominant lead into halftime. The Grayson team has a 4-star QB who has committed to Clemson who is good but not elite, and the Mill Creek coach seemed to be stuck in the mindset that the team needed to pass the ball to win. Second half they came back out and outplayed Grayson, pulling within 2 scores at the end on the third quarter. Basically started running the ball hard between the tackles and it worked. Trouble is with only 12 minute qtrs. to work with the clock was the bigger challenge. I am very high on Harris' potential. The kid fought hard the whole game and won most of his battles against some very high caliber talent.

Lets GO!!!!

Thanks Alex!

They whupped them pretty good - 2018 LB Dax Hollifield of Shelby (N.C.)

Yup. 52-10 is even better than 38-0. Was 52-3 at conclusion of 3rd quarter. It was great to see our second string get playing time and Motley scoring.

lol it was 38-0 3 minutes and 33 seconds into the second half. They were bro'd before the majority of the fans even got back to their seats after using the halftime pisser.

Personally, I loved that game. I haven't been to a game in Lane where we've won since the 2009 Miami game. Its been a rough stretch, so to see us annihilate the Hoos like that was cathartic.

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

No way. The context of the 38-0 is what makes that game so sweet. loluva fans really thought they were going to win that game and that loluva was going to take over Virginia as the premier program. 38-0 put the little zima drinkers back in their place.

Great stuff. Exciting we've got something good to sell recruits.

"When you put up 52 points, it's always good to see that because you know you're going to a place that has a good, dominant offense."

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NEVER thought I would see a BTR Gif on this site! WOW!

Dominant offense. ...would you look at that. Just look at it.

Great write it up, Alex. I'm pretty thrilled about signing day, probably overly optimistic, but it's gotta be better than last year.

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so shiney!

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"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

Haha, i may or may not have been watching this when i wrote my comment.

Dominant offense. ...would you look at that. Just look at it.

:-)

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

I saw a #90 out on the offense that looked like an extra o-lineman...the 2 we have are Dalton Rowe and Mitchell Ludwig at 90. Did anybody else see this? Is Rowe on the O-line now?

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That's Petit.

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Wearing 90?

FIRST DOWN, HOKIES!

I believe Pettit was in #80.

"Exit light..."

#80 for ND #90 for LOLUVA

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Thanks for answering for me, man that's weird he changed numbers like that 2 games in a row.

FIRST DOWN, HOKIES!

It's to be a tight end.

When will Tim Settle be used as a TE on a goal line drive to catch a TD pass?! It would have been fantastic to see against loluva!

You won't see this because Clemson will never be in our redzone (obviously) but Clemson has a redzone/short yardage package where they use Dexter Lawrence (6'5 340) and Christian Wilkins (6'4 310) as H-Backs. Usually as blockers but Wilkins has caught a TD.

This excites me greatly