Hokies to Debut Icy Hokie Stone Lids Against Delaware

And the Hokie Stone jerseys return to Virginia Tech's uniform rotation.

Virginia Tech revealed its uniform combination against Delaware. The Hokies will sport a new white Hokie Stone helmet along with their Hokie Stone jerseys and white pants.

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So.damn.sexy

Yyaaassss

I can already see myself this spring trying to justify bidding on one of these...

VT '17

does it really need justification?

I usually roll my eyes at the obsession this site has over our uniforms...

But these are slicker than a peeled onion in a bowl of snot.

"I mean, you know, fuck them, but good for them." -Too Druck to Funk

Paging ashore

I swear to drunk, I'm not God

I thought I heard my beeper go off...

"That move was slicker than a peeled onion in a bowl of snot." -Mike Burnop

I forgot it was Burnop that had added that particular phrase to my vocabulary.

"I mean, you know, fuck them, but good for them." -Too Druck to Funk

Well looks like my work here is done

I swear to drunk, I'm not God

I should just let this go>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Where is Lawson?!

I like the idea of these. They are so close to being amazing.

But the fact that there's no maroon in the helmet to tie in with the piping on the jersey numbers (and even the maroon swoosh on the pants) feels mismatched.

Call it nitpicky, but I'm sure I'm not the only one who sees it. Right?

You're the only ones that I can talk to about this, you guys.

Correct

We put the K in Kwality

I initially glanced over that, but after reading your comment, I cannot not see it and it's driving me crazy. Otherwise, they look real nice

Yeah! Why'd you do that to us!?

I don't know it kinda makes the numbers pop. I bet they'll look great on TV

yeah, just needs another maroon outline around the VT (like the numbers)

Either there, or the short stripes in the middle of the helmet.

I was thinking more of the decals on the visors, and text on the front/rear bumper. Subtle, but enough to keep consistency.

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

If you're looking for details that small to match for consistency, the 125th Anniversary decal has maroon on it.

Oh, so there is maroon on the helmet.

So then what's the problem?

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

(sigh.)

/subthread

You're the only ones that I can talk to about this, you guys.

I didn't pull the trigger on one of the Bristol uniforms last year. I might have to do so this year.

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

These are amazing

There are wolves and there are sheep, I am the sheep dog

(crosses fingers) "Orange pants, please, orange pants..."

"The workhorse again... OOOOOHHHHHHH... Terrell Skinner just got flattened!"

You monster.

ORANGE PANTS ARE THE DEVIL

White pants. Confirmed.

I swear to drunk, I'm not God

We're past Labor Day.

I like them. But I think I would like them much better if the Jersey's were white with stone numbers.

Is it football season yet?

That was my first thought as well. I really liked the WVU white out uniforms from last weekend and I think the white jersey with stone numbers and maybe some maroon trim would have looked even better.

Still digging it overall though and the all white helmet is lit.

I would not be shocked if our next uniform set included the hokiestone pattern on design elements and numbers on next year's uniform set in both football and basketball.

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

I'm OK if it includes a little of the maroon hokiestone, like on the basketball court.

Pretty sharp!!!!

TN_Hokie

Not just sharp. In fact, it's ICY!

Let's Go

HOKIES

pic now in original post so I am deleting this

Told ya

I swear to drunk, I'm not God

"Welcome to the Terror Dome." -- Corey Moore

Would like to see a Hokie Stone pattern down the side of the pant legs, but overall very sharp!

#HokieNation
"Tyrod did it, Mikey! Tyrod did it!" -Bill Roth

As much as I love that we have different colorways and these are certainly 100 percent FRESH

The best unis will forever be what Shayne Graham said the they called it: #WARPAINT aka #ALLMAROONEVERYTHING

Let's Go

HOKIES

AME will be what wins us the Clemson game!

If you're reading the above post and thinking, "is this guy serious?!?," you can safely assume I'm not.

I dig it

Very cool. It is good to see a fresh look.

Meh. Not my taste. I like the original look best.

GET OFF MY LAWN!

But if the players and recruits like them, party on.

Just when I think the uniform department can't be any dumber, they go and do something like this...And Totally Redeem themselves. Those look badass and that is from an old fart like me!

I can imagine no more rewarding a career. And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction:
“I served in the United States Navy"

KCCO

The negativity on TSL (SHOCKER) is cracking me up.

- Original colors!
- I want to know which team is VT when I turn on the TV!
- Hokie Stone uniform is a gimmick!
- Ugly!
- Get off my lawn!
- I love this message board format!

- I love this message board format!

Now that is funny. Enjoy a leg to start your Thursdee.

"You know when the Hokies say 'We are Virginia Tech' they're going to mean it."- Lee Corso

Leg for "Thursdee".

Lets see here

- Original colors!

The funny part is that black and grey are our original colors, so this is like legit fauxback, peeps!

- I want to know which team is VT when I turn on the TV!

The team wearing the VT logos, dumbass.

- Hokie Stone uniform is a gimmick!

Shocker, athletic department desperately looking for ways to make money develops new uniform and helmet for merchandising purposes.

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

- I want to know which team is VT when I turn on the TV!

The team wearing the VT logos, dumbass.

Against Delaware it should be easy to tell:

If the ball is moving and points are being scored, we're the offense.
If the ball is not moving, or the defense is scoring, we're the defense.
If a kickoff goes out of the endzone, that's Joey.
If someone's punting, that's Delaware (and we're the ones blocking it).

"Our job as coaches is to influence young people's lives for the better in terms of fundamental skills, work ethic, and doing the right thing. Every now and again, a player actually has that effect on the coaching staff." Justin Fuente on Sam Rogers

If you look at what the basketball team is doing with the War Memorial Pylons on the court, the Hokie Stone (albeit in Chicago Maroon) around the court and Burress, they are really trying to tie perceptions of the campus to more than just the giant VT logo. They want to get people to see the stone pattern and start really thinking: "that is VT, for sure".

I'm for it. Anyone who has seen the campus knows how amazing it looks. They have tried a few iterations of trying to tie it into uniforms and I think they are getting better and better at it, IMHO.

If I were Whit, I'd say "Oh, you don't like the Hokie Stone idea? I got the Foghorn Leghorn helmets in my closet, just keep complaining and see what happens"

The Dude Abides

The Jumbotron for the WVU game had Hokies stone pattern behind the VT as well

Recruit Prosim

I'm liking the maroon hokiestone patterns they are incorporating into the logos and apparel throughout the athletics department. I hope they can pull off a new slick set of jerseys that keeps this up next year. I'm itching for a new maroon jersey and really don't want a tri-stripe.

I kept my opinions to myself before the Bristol game, but those jerseys look like that fake stone underpinning for trailers. Not a fan at all.

North Carolina brick!

Where is Lawson?!

The new uniforms can be fun. But I really liked the way we looked for the opening game. Can't beat all maroon.

Stick it in! Stick it in!

Good as they look, nothing beats the all business of maroon on maroon. We should wear these (maroon on maroon) more often.

Nice, we'll have to see how they look in action

Just noticed UNC also has the raised helmet lettering on the back. Sorry if it was already mentioned. Is this a helmet brand thing?

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-What we do is, if we need that extra push, you know what we do? -Put it up to fully dipped? -Fully dipped. Exactly. It's dork magic.

With Delaware's unis and our abnormal uniforms, plus PSU was on at the same time, I thought we were playing Michigan.

I finally saw those unis on a replay. They are the reason we played poorly!

Where is Lawson?!

Please be /s
Please be /s
Please be /s
Please be /s

The Orange and Maroon you see, that's fighting on to victory.

They looked okay, I guess, up close. But in any shot more than about 10 feet away, they just looked like white unis with greenish-grey accents. Pointless really.

I don't know that I've ever heard a non-VT fan comment on VT's alternate unis that wasn't somewhere between, at best, ridiculing bemusement and, at worst, outright disdain.

To be fair I don't think any of our uniforms have ever been critically acclaimed outside of the fanbase. That being said I didn't mind these as a one-off in a non-televised game. Back to the unique school colors now please.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

To be even more fair, I don't think many teams' jerseys outside of Oregon actually get any public attention on any regular basis. If enough of the team's own fans are for it, that's all that really matters. No one else is buying team merchandise

The regular uniform is generally pretty well regarded.

I'm just amused at how the orange & maroon (and black & grey & camo & RWB, etc) glasses wearing folks think the alt unis are just the shit - yet almost nobody else really does.

The regular uniform isn't new and flashy and doesn't make people open the checkbook. They bought one 15 years ago. If the orange and maroon glasses wearing folks think a new jersey is the shit, whoever came up with it would most likely consider it a resounding success. They're not selling these things to OSU fans

Thinking it's the shit and buying one are two different things. How many alt jerseys do you see at games? I see very few -- and there have been a bunch over the years. And those do I see are often real game jerseys that someone bid on for charity.

I'll bet the regular jerseys still outsell alt jerseys by a huge number (and not just at VT) for the obvious reason people want to identify with their team. Only the uber fan spends $75 on an alt jersey that doesn't really look like their team's jersey.

What do you have against Uber now? /s

"with all due respect, and remember I’m sayin’ it with all due respect, that idea ain’t worth a velvet painting of a whale and a dolphin gettin’ it on" - Ricky Bobby

That's partly right. But there are at least some who 1) actually have somewhat decent looking ones and 2) are identifiable with the brand. VT's are usually neither.

And are people really buying the alt uni merchandise? For instance, will copies of last week's jersey even be available for sale to the public -- and even if it is, how many people will really buy them? Maybe a hundred or two? Is it worth diluting the brand to make a thousand bucks in licensing income?

They're the Battle at Bristol jerseys. I personally am not a huge fan of how they look (more like a tshirt in person than a jersey) but I did not see any sizes below XXL at Campus Emporium so I assume they're selling well.

I wouldn't assume that at all. I would assume they made a limited amount to meet limited demand for an item with a short shelf life - and I would assume they either overestimated even the small demand for XXL's or they simply had to make a minimum number.

Count how many you see at the next game vs the regular jerseys.

Count how many you see at the next game vs the regular jerseys

Obviously the number of standard maroon jerseys is going to be significantly higher when they've been on sale for approximately 50 years longer

Ok, count how many you see. I'll bet it's a pretty small number.

Believe it or not, most of the world has never heard of Hokie Stone.

And even if they did, they wouldn't pick up on that nuance if they weren't told that's what was on the jersey. I've had more than a few people say "what the hell is that" when VT has done the Hokie Stone jerseys because the nuance is lost on a football jersey and helmet. When I referred to ridiculing bemusement as a reaction by the non-VT world earlier, I was specifically thinking of the Hokie Stone unis.

If you turn on the TV and you can't tell who is playing, it's terrible branding.

How many people on this thread are buying one?

And are people really buying the alt uni merchandise?

XL and XXL are already sold out on Fanatics.com (which Hokiesports now leverages for our online shopping)

S and M are already sold out at CampusEmporium.com

I'd say they're selling quite well, to be honest.

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

Nonsense. Sold out is not necessarily selling well. Do you know how many they had in stock to begin with?

All you can really tell from "sold-out" is they didn't over-order. Anything more than that is just confirmation bias.

Oh, ok... so when supply isn't keeping pace with demand in week 2 of the season, that's really not indicative of anything. Good to know

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

Good grief. If demand = x and supply < x, what is x? You don't know and neither do I.

But the anecdotal evidence (the limited number of alt jerseys you see at games, the limited inventory on the shelves at a limited number of retail outlets - before and after the game) would imply x is not a big number.

Do you remember the white VT pro combat's from 2010-ish? Those things were more readily available and in the end you could find them on clearance for <$10. They obviously overestimated demand and I suspect that the parties involved learned their lesson and now they make just a limited number of the alt jerseys. Even with "overproduction" and clearance pricing, you still didn't see that many of them. Why? Because even with excess supply, I'd guess they didn't make that many of them.

As I said earlier, logic and evidence would point toward maybe a couple hundred jerseys sold. After everybody else gets their piece of the pie, what does that leave VT? A thousand bucks...maybe two thousand?

As I said earlier, logic and evidence would point toward maybe a couple hundred jerseys sold. After everybody else gets their piece of the pie, what does that leave VT? A thousand bucks...maybe two thousand?

First of all, what logic could you possibly be talking about? Because you personally don't see them in the stadium? Seriously, that's your reasoning. Hate to break it to you, but I would be willing to bet that 99% of Hokie fans own more VT apparel than what they routinely wear to the stadium.

Secondly, its comical to see the hand wringing over this, and to see the argument now take a turn to "they can't possibly be making that much money off them, so why bother". Its like we're completely forgetting the fact that VT's fundraising efforts legitimately pale in comparison to our peers. We legitimately need every dollar we can get, and if that means we have to introduce 5 helmets and 3 uniforms per year to turn around and market and sell to fans, being able to make money off each, well then the hell with it, that's exactly what they should be doing, because, once again, we suck at raising funds. And if you don't like it, then pony up with your wallet, and give enough money so that these "gimmicks" don't have to happen.

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

Well, that was my question, no? It is worth diluting the brand for a couple thousand bucks? I say no. Obviously the power-that-be have disagreed (although it appears that pendulum may be shifting).

And do you honestly think alt unis result in an extra $1 in Hokie Club donations? There are better untapped ways to generate income than alt unis.

About the only good purposes I can see for them is 1) they raise money for a good cause and 2) they are (arguably) good for recruiting efforts (or more accurately, they're like indoor facilities now, it doesn't really help to have one, but it hurts not to have one).

Everybody is doing the alt unis, but some schools do them less frequently and without diluting the brand - not coincidentally often the schools that VT sees as aspirational football peers. I'd prefer to see VT not take the "wannabe, blue-turf, look at me now because you'd otherwise not know I exist" approach.

If this is part of the brand:

How is what we wore this weekend a dilution of that? Say what you want about the direction its taking, but that stone motif, through its use in football and basketball has become a main integral part of the VT brand going forward. In fact, I would say that the Hokiestone uniform and helmet is assisting with the current VT brand and bridging the gap to the next iteration we will likely see next year, as well as connecting the brand in football and basketball.

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

Ummm, this is the approach that should be taken with alternate unis. It works because it doesn't matter whether you know what Hokie Stone is or not.

It's maroon and the court is clearly identifiable as Virginia Tech to a TV audience with the big maroon VT emblem. The Hokie Stone just becomes a nuanced touch, not the central theme. The average viewer won't even notice it or care; the VT fan will know exactly what it is if they can see it. Win-win.

I don't personally care for the bridge (and I don't think I'm alone in this) because I think it's too much (as is the colored-in 2 pt area). That's just my aesthetic opinion though.

Ok but what would you consider evidence of success? You don't like the design. Fine, it's your opinion and you're entitled to it but it doesn't really have a bearing on whether it was a success.

I like the design of the jersey, I just don't like the execution of it as apparel to purchase as a fan. It's not the same material/cut as the maroon jerseys.

You seem to be really worked up about these jerseys and I don't really understand why.

I'm not worked up. I just made a couple of simple statements and the "alt unis are the shit" crowd got their undies in a knot because someone didn't drink their kool-aid.

I said thought they Hokie Stone were kinda okay up close, but pretty indistinct when panned back. That's just my fashion opinion, but it means no more than anybody else's fashion opinion. But I do think that the impression of VT outside the VT cocoon is telling and important. I don't buy the argument the alt jerseys generate lots of income for the institution (for the multiple reasons I stated), so it's worth watering down the brand because all that matters is some VT fans like them.

Thankfully it appears the administration is coming to its senses and moving to different line of thinking.

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The black jerseys we wore against Boise State in 2010 are very highly regarded around the CFB landscape.

It must have been the stone on our jerseys that slowed us down a little.

@VTimHokie85

They're not actually made of stone. That's immaterial.

We put the K in Kwality

No, man. I said our jerseys were stoned.

Not the same thing at all. But, it explains the slowed-down... the stones were like... it...

My bad - what were we talking about, bruh?

You're the only ones that I can talk to about this, you guys.

The Hokiestone uniforms were named the "ACC Uniform of the Week" by the ACC Digital Network, for whatever that's worth.

There are plenty of salty Pitt fans on the twitters not too happy to see it.

Don't let this comment take away from the fact that Arkansas blew a 24 point 2nd half lead in the Belk Bowl.
Don't let the Belk Bowl take away from the fact that Matt Ryan blew a 25 point 2nd half lead in the Super Bowl.

Just sounds like ridiculing bemusement to me

That's because they thought Bucky pushed off.

We put the K in Kwality

OK, I've read all the comments, and I guess I'll just take the damn downvotes, but those uniforms looked like crap to me and I'm not the only one who thinks so. Almost all of the fans I personally know don't like them either. I assume that although some of us older Hokies are ok with it, this is basically a generational thing. Saying they are our school colors because we wore them a hundred years ago is not a good argument. All the talk about supply and demand and sell outs is a bogus argument. I resisted cds for as long as I could back in the day, but had to give up because even though most record stores still carried some vinyl, they were usually sold out quickly. I had the demand, there was no supply, ergo I was forced to go digital and I'm still salty about it.
Yeah, the VT logo is still there for ID purposes, and I sure as hell know which team is the Hokies, but I just cannot wrap my head around the sheer ugliness of these jerseys. The helmets were fine, even slick, but the jerseys look like something homemade because the material was on close out sale or bought at a Dollar General in bumfuck Arkansas or something. It's maroon, orange and white, people. There is nothing stale about that. Next thing you know, people will want to change the Hokies to the BuzzTechs or something. I will just say that there is not one damn thing wrong with tradition in this instance. Stop trying to fix something that wasn't broke. No, you won't see any sarcasm symbol here. As you can tell, I feel strongly about this...but of course, it's just my opinion.

Reel men fish on Wednesdays

You'll be happy to hear that vinyl is making a revival

It's ok, Hokie Stone doesn't like you either.

I love Hokie Stone as much or more than anyone. My first look at campus in 1967 left a lasting impression on me. Thing is, Hokie Stone belongs where it is iconic, on the face of campus buildings. It's a rock, not a fashion statement. It is like camo stuff, great for making war and hunting, but stupid looking, to me, in everyday wear. God, I'm old.

Reel men fish on Wednesdays

As you can tell, I feel strongly about this...but of course, it's just my opinion.

I figured this jersey thing is like most marketing. Sure, one would prefer positive comments to negative, but at the end of the day the marketers count it as a win as long as they're being discussed at all.

I've got my personal opinion on uniforms, which is immaterial to anyone but me. However, the more ink and airtime the Hokies get for anything that's not actual scandal (or scandalously bad play), the more they're in everyone's minds. I guess. Have a leg.

Awww, I do feel strongly about it, but I also will have to admit that 11 beers and a rant don't mix.

Reel men fish on Wednesdays

I still think they should have gone white jerseys with the white helmets and pants. Then have the Hokie stone inside the numbers like they did with the VT on the helmet. Much more cleaner and slick.... but at the end of the day, the game and jerseys are doneski.... so.... who cares? lol

Bleeding burnt orange and chicago maroon

I have no issue with alternative jerseys, nor with hokie stone versions. But damn i hate white jerseys. It doesn't matter what look, i have never liked a white jerseys, and for a home game no less. Would prefer a black jersey alternative always.

Pfffft as if you know style! /s

"I'm a Miller Lite guy, always have been, since I was 8." -John Daly

Even these? These should've become our regular whites

"We judge ourselves by our intentions and others by their behavior" Stephen M.R. Covey

“When life knocks you down plan to land on your back, because if you can look up, you can get up, if you fall flat on your face it can kill your spirit” David Wilson

Ugh what I'd do to have one of those. And what I'd do to see that as our regular whites.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.

Yes! Bring those back as our road unis! With an all maroon version for home!

@VTimHokie85

Better but still not a fan. If must have white then yes would prefer. But much prefer having black option over white.

Well in general one team must wear white, unless the two teams and the NCAA can agree to another combination that is sufficiently different as to completely avoid confusion.

Yep understand that but usually that is for away team. We aren't PSU so i see no need for white out games or white jerseys at home. If you're going for all white then use them for a televised away game, not home.

Just personal opinion but u can put up any white jersey we've had and the black pro-combat jersey for Boise St, and the black wins hands down every time.

I was always a huge fan of this away look too. But I think that jersey scheme was one of our best. Looks so sharp with maroon pants.

I have no idea why my username is VT_Warthog.

Arkansas blew a 24-0 lead in the Belk Bowl.