Don Criqui was on Sirus XM 91 College Sports On Campus with Bill King this morning, and was bring up the talk around the Notre Dame football program and the potential for coaching changes. He said that a coach that was hot on the Notre Dame radar was Bud Foster - it would be a lateral move, but the Irish could provide a much, much larger paycheck for Foster. Criqui said that Brian Kelly and Foster have similar philosophies when it comes to how to run a defense. I highly doubt Foster would consider leaving for Notre Dame, but was rather shocked to hear someone close to the school speaking about Foster.
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I highly doubt that he leaves for anything but a head coaching job.
As much as I dislike ND, a DC position there (or any other big time program) IS like being a head coach as compared to many schools. It would certainly be a great stepping stone if successful, which he would be. I'd hate to see him go, but I suspect he could put them on the fast track to a MNC. That said, I don't (hope) see him leaving for that. Brian Kelly seems like a loose cannon and while their defensive philosophies may be similar, I don't see them meshing together.
I know he is one the highest paid assistants in the country, but Notre Dame would pay way more than VT could with their NBC moneybags. Personally, I would find it hard to root for Bud because Notre Dame;s 'independent' status and arrogant inflated sense of football relevance. I'd be less disgusted if he became head coach of WVU.
Bud and Frank have a bond cant see the lateral move to be someone else's DC.
This type of 'chatter' is always good for the HOKIE nation, no matter how speculative.
GO HOKIES BEAT UCLA!
also PLEASE REWORD THE TITLE of this thread. Thanks in advance
I wouldn't want it to happen but would be happy for him. I hate ND though...
IMO, Bud Foster's a fixture at VT and has a great chance to be the next Head Coach in a few years . I believe he is a Hokie till he retires !
I agree- just thought it was interesting to hear a so-called "big time program" use his name - well, not the program, but someone close to the program.
i guess we can say "close to the program" - it would be like saying Bill Roth is close to the VT program... which he is.
The way I see it, ND wants Bud Foster, but they can't get Bud Foster. Just like the whole damn country wants Bud Foster, but only a few schools have any shot at Bud Foster. Bud Foster.
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I just raised my bench 20lbs and my squat 50lbs, only because I finished reading this -thank you pajokie. Will you be offering an abs comment as well?
I think that's just someone being really hopeful. Like when we were looking for a new OC and just about every good OC in the country had their name pop up.
yep- people need something to talk about....
it would be interesting to compile the number of schools that have speculated hiring Bud.
I'll bet it includes dozens of teams from every conference over the past 20+ years.
Yea, flattering to say the least that Notre Dame would consider Foster in a DC position there. I think his roots are planted firmly at VT - especially if it were Notre Dame calling. Now, Texas? maybe not so much
I agree with your comment but had to point something out...
Every time I read "yea" instead of "yeah", I read it Shakespeare style. It makes reading the internet much more interesting.
Verily!
I think, more generally, the conversation can go like this:
"_______________ would love to have Bud Foster as their DC."
Insert any school and it's still true. Just a compliment to Bud. I don't see him making a move like this; it would be sort of insulting to Beamer to leave for another DC position.
He's said plenty of times before he wouldn't make a lateral move. If he wouldn't go coach for Spurrier at SC, I don't see him going to ND. This is just typical casual college football observer nonsense. They think that Notre Dame can just pull anyone they want especially from some ho hum Virginia college.
Uh, I think some of you have been hitting the cool-aid a bit hard.
VT Def Co < ND Def Co, and that's not even considering they could pay him double. I don't think this would be a "lateral move" at all, and everyone knows what kind of tradition, recruits, and spotlight a ND job brings.
I love Foster at VT, and think he embodies everything about VT football. I was disturbed when they made Shane the "associate" head coach, and I think Foster has been slighted a bit overall. I would be happy if they give him the "head-coach-in-waiting" title, which might keep the Texas's and ND's away.
If he wouldn't take a position at USC under Spurrier, UGA under Richt, or ATM under Sumlin, why would ND be a better move? The spotlight at ND is not something you necessarily want. Look at some of the past ND coaches and what happens when they fail to meet the "ND standard" which is basically to be Alabama but better.
Jimbo and FSU contacted him as well.
I still think ND is on a different level than those programs.
a lower level perhaps. This isn't the ND of the 80's anymore.
Lou Holtz just spit out his teeth when he read this
And..scene...
I couldn't read this meme because Holtz's saliva gunked up my screen too badly.
They played in the NCG last year.
I think "played" is a bit strong...
You sure about that because it sure looked like Alabama played a team full of Lennay Kekua clones.
Well, ND "appeared" in the NC Game. But, they should have just mailed in their score and saved their trip money.
None of those teams have played for a BCS title
And until last year, neither had ND, but they sure are a powerhouse, aren't they? I mean just look at how well they played in that game...
While the Hokies were setting records for the number of punts in the Russell Athletic Bowl to go 7-6. I don't think ND had anything to be ashamed of last year.
How about not even showing up for the NC at ALL. They were too busy out looking for Man'Teo's "real" girlfriend.
The Fake Girlfriend Story was pretty shameful.
The Hokies WON their bowl game....
I hate Notre Dame more than your average bear, but I see no reason for this to be downvoted. I gave you a turkey leg so hopefully it balances out. I'd take playing in a NC over the Russell Athletic Bowl any year.
Thanks.
I'm not a ND fan either, but they've got a great history and fan base. Foster could do worse than coach for the Fighting Irish.
I'm still glad LOLUVA took Al Groh over Foster 15 yrs ago. Secured our #decadeofdominance
You're welcome! By great fan base do you mean great in size or composed of great people? Because I think they tend to have a reputation of being a bit arrogant and in some cases, Grade-A douchers. And amen to #decadeofdominance!
I'd agree they have a nation wide fan base - or far reaching.
INcluding last year. they were tackling dummies for Bama.
oh snap!
In the BCS era, I believe VT has both played in and won exactly as many National Championship games as Notre Dame.
I t will be a great hing to see how they match up on the fled in 2016.
that is where it counts.
Agree. If he didn't take the UGA job then he's not going anywhere to be a DC. Obviously money isn't the only thing keeping bud in b-burg. He's also stated that he would be completely fine finishing his career as the DC in b-burg.
USC under Spurrier has never won anything, neither has UGA. ATM, please.
If I rate football programs, its Alabama, Texas, Michigan, ND and OSU. These are the Def. coordinator jobs that wouldn't be a "lateral move".
As the guy with the largest Bud Foster man-crush, I honestly think he's been loyal to a fault to VT. I think he's 10 years overdue for a head coaching job in a major conference, and if he's serious about taking on that challenge, he should be interviewing at any ACC or SEC school with a head coaching vacancy.
Ideally, he will always be at VT.
What about USCw?
IDK, i have trouble giving michigan credit for anything
You're too young then Jsketch.
Michigan has the most wins of any program in history. Just like ND, I wouldn't replace them with Oregon and Baylor just yet.
I never said my dislike of that state up north was rational
Actually, UGA has a few NC's under their belt (1980, over Notre Dame, and a few from way back).
Believe they beat Penn State no? With Hershel?
You can tell Bud loves every bit about being DC at VT. It is still a lateral move. He is already a legend in Blacksburg- he would have the potential to one of many in South Bend. This is all 'malarkey' (thanks JB)
I don't think not being named associate HC was a slight. IF for some reason Frank got injured during a game, you don't want one of your coordinators having to assume that mantle. I would look at the pay. ND is a big name in college football but they haven't really been relevant in a long time, last year not withstanding.
Great point. Billy Hite was associate HC from 2001-2010, and no one thought that was a slight to Foster. I think those kind of titles are just bureaucratic, really. Not the same as head-coach-in-waiting or anything.
I've always kind of assumed the position involved holding Frank's clipboard, getting his drink etc. I've never really saw the position as being above a coordinator position.
[Insert "Shane Schrute" picture with caption reading "Assistant to the Head Coach" here]
This isn't the Battle of Gettysburg. If Frank goes down during a game, the offensive plays still come from the booth and the defensive plays still get growled in from the sideline from Foster. The only thing that someone would need to step in for Frank would be to make ill -timed fake punt decisions in bowl games (Yep, still not happy about the Sugar Bowl).
By lateral, I meant that it would be the same position. but obviously, the ND DC Coordinator position would be a huge, huge jump up the ladder towards a HC position.
It's quite common that the Associate Head coach position goes to a non-coordinator. The concept behind Associate Head Coach is that if the Head Coach is laid up with illness for a game, then the Associate HC takes over and things keep running along with minimal disruption. If you pull one of your coordinators into those duties then the entire offense or defense is affected by the coaching shuffle.. It's not a slight on BF at all.
Great point. nuf said.
Is this true? I don't know enough college examples, I only know of NFL examples.
Chuck Pagano - replaced by OC Bruce Arians
Gary Kubiak - replaced by DC Wade Phillips
John Fox - replaced by DC Jack Del Rio
This would be brilliant for Notre Dame. They get the best defensive coordinator in the history of the universe to complement Brian Kelly's offense and they give him a collection of the biggest strongest fastest and most talented defensive players in the country year in and year out? Dynastic.
But of course #nobudddontgo
Let's downplay this
Lets keep it in perspective this all came about by "who?' completely speculating on on where?- someone's? 'who's?' Internet radio show. --------------upvote here to delete this thread---------
Criqui is the "voice of the irish" so to speak - it would be like Bill Roth calling into ESPN to talk about the Hokies. Bill King used to do 247Sports radio - now has his own show on SiriusXM College Sports Nation - it's a nice alternative to Mike and Mike on the commute in.
assumed they weren't 'nobodies' but I am not familiar.
just want to un-stir the pot a bit.
Its more relevant than another pie vs cake debate.
hearsay and cajecture. vs cake v Pie. got it.
Obviously conjecture looses to cake vs pie.
Still, I don't see why cookies didn't get a place at the table.
I would literally cry.
I mean, can you imagine the arrogance of ND fans if they got Bud? (Let me fill you in, their arrogance levels are already off the charts)
They still got a severe case of head-up-the-shitter, eh?
Anyways I got word that Sam Rogers put this Bill King dude AND the entire ND on notice.
The real problem arises when Notre Dame still can't win the big one in a few years and they shit-can all the coaches again. They would never hire Bud as the head coach at Notre Dame. Never. At that point he's just another out of work DC hoping for another team that'll let him run a defense his way. I just can't see him making this move.
Why would Bud go to ND when VT will win the National Championship with him as DC in 2015?
Rudy was off-sides! Joe Montana knew this, and so does Bud Foster.
Rudy aint got squat on Sam Rogers
Notre Dame to hire Brian VanGorder as their new Defensive Coordinator.
all i have to say is this:
Brian Kelly is a DICK