It has been a privilege to have Bronco Mendenhall direct the Virginia football team over the past six seasons," said Virginia athletics director Carla Williams. "He has done an exceptional job
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Complete horse shit!
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Thanks for the ride, UVA. I'll drive home now to be with my family as I'm sure they're tryna sift through the chaos. As I'm pulled over on the side of the road, I'll say this: I love all my RBs who have played for me. We're always connected until the day I dieโ UVACoachAtuaia (@UVACoachAtuaia) December 2, 2021
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He was insanely loyal to his staff. I imagine he was asked to change DC's and maybe didn't want to. Also stated that he wanted to retire young as he has millions from coaching. Lastly, they had been in touch with Anthony Poindexter about possibly being a DC, would they go with him as HC?
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If I'm Brent Pry my pitch is "you can come earn meaningful experience with me as a DC at VT and wait for the right HC job to open up, or you can go to UVA and I will get you fired within 3 years and there will be no opening in my staff for a loser"
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I think this makes the most sense, you have to imagine there were convos about changes to the D staff after it being purely putrid this year. Sounds like they gave Bronco the hard play and he decided to bounce.
Otherwise, to make this decision on your own so late, and with the Tweet from the RB coach implying this was a surprise would be a real Richard Move by Bronco, specifically to his coaches who are now left scrambling.
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Waited until late in the carousel cycle (carousycle?) to leave em! Ha. We thought he was our enemy, perhaps he was our Broncbro all along with the long con.
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Epic burn aside, I checked into the history and unless I'm mistaken you have to go back to Art Guepe who went 6-0-1 against us from 1946-1952 to find a Hoo coach with a winning record against the good guys. That's remarkable.
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I don't think they have the money they're willing to throw at football like we did. I was reading Le Sabre reactions and multiple ppl were saying things along the line of "if we won more, we'd donate more"..... real forward thinking there.
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Oh no, they will likely hire a big reach or someone underwhelming in the end. But no doubt VT and Pry raised some eyebrows up there. Especially also after a VT team with an interim coach came and beat them on their own field with their hero Armstrong at QB. I think the horrible defense was the last straw there.
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Bronco was their best coach that didn't coach in the 80s, he did a great job getting UVA some what respectable compared to the London years. So I am not sure what winning more means.
On the flip side, UVAs coaches made more than VTs so they did invest in their program better than VT in 1 aspect. But recruiting, facilities, etc. all add up. So who knows if they want to spend money on a juice bar.
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Other than 1 really good season (which pretty much everybody in Coastal can claim in the last 7-8 years), has he really made that much progress in 6 years? Is Uva's football identity any clearer now than 6 years ago? If Armstrong leaves, how much less of a mess will that program be than in 2016?
I guess he was 1-5 vs VT so he's got that going for him...which is nice.
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Both 3-star QBs (.87 & .86). Either Bronco out-scouted everyone to find these guys, or out-developed them. Either way, Bronco found 2 'outstandingly successful college QBs' to take UVA from garbage to mediocre.
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Both 3-star QBs (.87 & .86). Either Bronco out-scouted everyone to find these guys, or out-developed them. Either way, Bronco found 2 'outstandingly successful college QBs' to take UVA from garbage to mediocre.
Let's face it, guys like that don't come around every day. It may be that Bronco has a good eye for talent, but Armstrong has a stellar arm (and a good mind for the game), and Perkins was a great ad-libber. In fact they were both great at making something out of nothing.
But he just had two of those, and it was mostly raw talent that was effective at the college level. I don't think it was because Bronco was a QB Whisperer. If anything, he put some good receivers out there and let them go.
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I'm not forgetting at all. The question was "is UVa in that much better shape than when he took over"? I would say "no". It's better, but six years later is still in the bottom 25% of the P5 as a program on the whole and headed down, not up.
I know he's claims it's all personal reflection, blah, blah, but I think ultimately Bronco leaving UVa, not retiring, is him getting off a sinking ship while his rep is still somewhat intact because people always get suckered into thinking lots of passing yards equals quality.
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Mike London had one season >.500. Bronco went .500 or better in every (regular) season, except his first. UVA is no longer penciled in to finish last in the Coastal each preseason. I'd call that an improvement.
I think ultimately Bronco leaving UVa, not retiring, is him getting off a sinking ship while his rep is still somewhat intact
It's possible that UVA has improved, but Bronco wants out before the ship sink. The two are not mutually exclusive.
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They made it to a bowl game 4 of the last 5 seasons (would be 5 out of 5 if not for covid), an ACC championship appearance and an NY6 bowl. How much more winning do they need to pony up?
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As college athletics changes (transfer portal, NIL, etc), a lot of coaches are going to lose interest (and other coaches will excel). Roy Williams left UNC because he didn't want to deal with it. Gary Paterson was pushed out because he couldn't. The 'earn your number' BS doesn't play anymore.
Anyways, hope UVA makes another mediocre hire.
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Carla Williams is pretty well thought of overall and they're a very successful Basketball/Olympic sports school, plenty of money, and good facilities (or at least funds to dedicate to them).
The right person could do some things there, so lets hope they don't find that guy.
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Marshall to UVA is a vertical move, but not that far vertical. If Huff wants a top 25 job, he's better off building Marshall up (where its easier to win than UVA).
I'm more concerned about Chadwell going to UVA. Reddit said Chadwell missed out on a lot of P5 jobs because he wants to take his whole staff with him. UVA might allow that. If Chadwell goes to UVA, they could easily become competent.
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Virginia's Bronco Mendenhall said he's been involved for last 31 years of football. "Clearly this week there was a sense of clarity. I needed to step back from college football & reassess my life as well as my wife as my partner & next chapter of our life. This was my decision"โ Brett McMurphy (@Brett_McMurphy) December 2, 2021
Bronco Mendenhall says he felt the time was right to step back to "reassess, renew, reframe and reinvent." He said he was asked to say but made this decision on his own.โ Andrea Adelson (@aadelsonESPN) December 2, 2021
#UVA coach Bronco Mendenhall on resigning now. "None of this I'm viewing as permanent." Says he's "refueling."โ Mike Barber (@RTD_MikeBarber) December 2, 2021
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The bit about reassess his wife as his partner stood out to me. Got no clue if it's just translation issues or what but it does seem like 'one of those isn't like the other' situations.
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it probably is poor phrasing to mean "i will reassess all of these things alongside my loving wife, the best partner i could ask for". but him losing so bad he's contemplating giving up everything is hilarious
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I laughed so hard when McMurphy tweeted that but its a misquote. He actually said:
"...I need to step back from college football and reassess, renew, reframe, and reinvent with my wife as my partner our future and the next chapter of our lives"
The extra 'as well as' in McMurphy's tweet didn't exist but made it read hilariously.
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If it's truly about just being burnt out and wanting to spend time with family he really did a disservice to the team by waiting this late to join the coaching search I would think....we thought we were in a rush to establish a coach for recruiting purposes and availability of good coaches but sheesh.
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Talking about the ACC in general - there's a lot of nerd schools (Duke, GT, Wake, UVA, maybe Syracuse) that want to be relevant in football, but don't want to make the investment to be great. The triple option is a great equalizer.
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Truthfully they have some good WRs that could go to the draft. I haven't checked but maybe we can flip any recruits from this cycle that are worth trying instead?
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Honestly I respect his decision if it's truly for the reasons he's provided. But this close to early signing? The assistants and staff seemed shocked, everyone seems to be caught unaware. That component of it seems selfish; if he's the CEO of the organization then he's responsible for making sure the transition is smooth. Damn, Bronco.
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That would be baller. There's some chatter out there that Dex has had some sort of falling out with UVA since his last coaching tenure there. But if he's at all on their radar being coach of your alma mater might be huge.
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If they were going to fire him then the AD would have had a shortlist already. Or he would have been fired already.. If he just decided this week he was done for now the AD is starting from the beginning while jobs fill up elsewhere.
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And yet, it's still two days before his buyout would have dropped. Meanwhile, if VT had waited to save $2.5 million in buyout money, we'd still be waiting two more weeks.
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I don't think it's that big of a deal for UVA. Just like how VT wasn't competing with USC, LSU, etc for coaches, UVA isn't looking at the same coaches as anyone else with an opening. Maybe Duke? Do you really think there was any candidate available to UVA 2 months ago who is no longer available?
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Well their coach made the same number of acc championship games as ours did....
Hopefully they don't upgrade from Bronco. It's easy to laugh now, but we won't be laughing if they somehow get someone better. Seemed like he had a decent couple years (and some bad ones) considering the caliber of that program.
Go Hokies and here's to many more years with the cup
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That "quality education" isn't nearly all that the Hoos want to make of it either. Certainly not knocking their education, just that they overplay it. It isn't that much better than many other schools, including VT.
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my step-brother went to a small, private, liberal arts school in MD and has literally no dog in this fight - he's told me that he has interviewed and hired both Hokies and Wahoos throughout his career and in EVERY SINGLE case the Hokies outperformed the Wahoos. He was consistently disappointed with the Wahoos - stating that on paper they looked good but their attitudes were crap. He said he'd hire Hokies over Hoos every day from now on - anecdotal evidence but evidence nonetheless
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It comes down to philsophy. From an academic perspective (and I've been told this at multiple institutions), VT CS is seen as being very difficult, very math heavy. Not git levels, but up there. We load our students down with heavy math and a lot of super technical 3XXX-4XXX coursework, not a lot of fluff (well, outside of maybe HCI). Over there they don't do this, they approach STEM like liberal arts: they do senior thesis and whatnot. This is nice and all but its not super tech heavy, and undergraduate thesis neither really break any new ground, nor give a strong research framework. Theres a reason why the running joke is "the limit of computer science, as gpa approaches 0, is bit"
Now, to take off my academia cap and give a story:
I sat in on an interview with a recent grad and he was saying he had extensive linux experience. We asked a simple question: "you are placed in front of a linux box and the only thing you have access to is a terminal. you know nothing about this machine beforehand. how would you go about figuring out what it is used for?"
response: "terminal? is that a command line?"
oof
(for reference, the preferred answer is to go through the history by $ history or $ cat ~/.bash_history)
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To piggyback on this, I worked for one of the big boy defense contractors that heavily recruited engineers. I'll never forget an email from a department manager to our recruiting team stating "Stop sending me resumes of these goddamn UVA kids. Sure they know the field but none of them can work on a team and they can't communicate to project stakeholders without being awkward about it."
Apparently for a university that values high academic standards they can't even teach basic communication skills.
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I always liked that VT's college of business made all its students take public speaking and a Microsoft Office lab, regardless of major (this was in the late '90s, I assume it's till true) It seems like common sense that those are skills you need in pretty much any job, but I can't believe how many professionals I meet who don't have them.
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Tidewater Community College (Cedar Road University) made me take public speaking for my associates degree. I took a test to avoid the Office class (I see its usefulness, I just didn't want to waste my and their time). Early 2000's
I just assumed everywhere did that kind of thing.
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As of the late 00's - early 10s, they no longer required us to take a Microsoft Office lab, but they still required public speaking for any business track. That has probably been the single most useful course for so many of us that were really uncomfortable in public settings
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Up arrow untiI find something useful! It makes me look more productive to people that don't understand.
But let's get real, first I'm gonna with uname -a. Then I am going to look what sevices are running then I might see the history. Because I want to know what it was meant to be, then confirm what it is, becuase if you have a server names dns-001 and Bind or some other dns isn't running then I am out. I dont have time to deal with that shit.
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"you are placed in front of a linux box and the only thing you have access to is a terminal. you know nothing about this machine beforehand. how would you go about figuring out what it is used for?"
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UVA alumni are very rich, and the school is located in the middle of the state. If some rich plantation dudes wanted to start cutting checks I would be moderately concerned
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Guy has a horrible record versus VT.
Opens up possible transfers of in-state VA talent to VT.
Puts the uva athletic depth into disarray.
Potentially torpedoes uva's recruiting class while tipping the scales to VT....
He's got to be a serious candidate for the next VT sports hall of fame induction.
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So Dino Babers, he of the 29-43 record and one bowl appearance at Syracuse, wins the 2016 ACC coaching sweepstakes for somehow having the longest tenure, outlasting Mark Richt, Justin Fuente and Bronco Mendenhall. Who had that ticket?โ Andy Bitter (@AndyBitterVT) December 2, 2021
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1) Dead serious I hope his life and family are doing well. A sudden change like this suggests there *might* be a personal situation simmering out of sight. Despite my soul-hardened hated for all things LOLUVA I'll never root against someone who might have to go through hard things. Apart.
2) JC just straight up broke that man's soul. Sorry not sorry.
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the second they try to load those things in a truck to take it back they probably crack. After all, they had to make sure they were thin enough that their defensive guys could actually break them
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Well don't give it up. He alluded to the fact his decision to step down was not permanent. Maybe put up a landing page stating that the site is taking the opportunity to look inwards at its identity, purpose, and mission statement, but you'll be back soon??
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So today VT gets a new coach and announces the 2nd biggest football budget in the ACC. Bronco goes to his boss and asks "Where's that football building you said you were gonna build? Where's that budget increase I was expecting?" So Bronco gets the run-around about how's there's no money, but he should probably find another D coordinator to work for peanuts. At this point Bronco is tired of admin excuses and goes and drafts his resignation letter.
UVa doesn't want to be good at football, and I think Bronco walked out on their lack of support.
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If you follow financial news, there's been an enormous wave of resignations as people reevaluate what they want from life during the COvID disruption. I think it's entirely possible (maybe even likely) that an extremely rich dude in late middle age might just say "fuck it I'm moving to the beach" instead of dealing with the stress of football coaching. If I was CFB coach rich id be typing this from the beach instead of my cube
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The thing is *most* of those coaches that get to the HC at a P5 program level are wired very competitively and would not be happy at the beach like you (or a lot of people).
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My UVA alum buddy (we grew up together. I would have walked away early on if I knew the kind of decisions he'd make at 17) who is pretty plugged in (writes for streaking the lawn and big stats guy in the UVA twitter sphere) says they are going after Poindexter for HC. He did refer to Poindexter as the Penn St. DC which made me laugh hysterically.
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Bronco just didn't have the horses to buck the trend of losing to Tech. Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades afterall, just couldn't keep the blinders on that forever. No matter what the neighsayers say I'm sure he'll giddy up and come out ahead in the end.
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This is a strong post. I really applaud you for trotting out all those puns. You have demonstrated mastery of English. Saddle up and take a victory lap.
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Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades afterall
I'm from NC and I've only ever heard one man speak this idiom and his initials are JR. Please tell me you do not recognize that or this world just got super small.
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I'm gonna miss their linemen crawling around a grassy knoll at a very slow rate of speed in preseason as preparation for football...that clip always made me laugh
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Those are both good ones, but yall seen the pacman practice? Volume up
Best thing out of Bronco's tenure was those weird practice videos. The Pac Man practice takes the cake for me. pic.twitter.com/R7iYk0sa9lโ B.A.G. ๐๐ฆ (@BeamerGarage) December 3, 2021
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How have we not posted this a million times? This is ridiculous. What recruit sees that video and says, hell yeah. That's where I want to go for Hard Things, Together
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Both Virginia Tech's Justin Fuente and Virginia's Bronco Mendenhall were hired in 2016. Both are gone in 2021. Fuente43-31 (28-20 ACC) 4-1 vs UVa1 ACC Coastal ChampionMendenhall36-38 (22-27 ACC)1-5 vs VT1 ACC Coastal ChampionNew Era of Commonwealth Football upon us.โ Matej Sis (@MatejS247) December 3, 2021
I was a little surprised to see Fuente come out ahead, as I thought Bronco might have pulled away more the last couple of years. But Bronco also started with a 2-10 season.
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In keeping with Hoo tradition.... Let us read the sacred parting Hoo text:
"When you get what you want in your struggle for self "And the world makes you king for a day, "Then go to a mirror and look at yourself "And see what that guy has to say. "For it isn't your father or mother or wife "Whose judgment upon you must pass, "The fellow whose verdict counts most in your life" "Is the guy staring back from the glass.
"He's the fellow to please, never mind all the rest "For he's with you clear to the end "And you've passed your most dangerous, difficult test "If the guy in the glass is your friend.
"You may be like Jack Horner and chisel a plum, "And think youยนre a wonderful guy, "But the man in the glass says youยนre only a bum, "If you canยนt look him straight in the eye.
"You may fool the whole world down the pathway of years "And get pats on the back as you pass "But your final reward will be heartache and tears "If you've cheated the man in the glass."
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Zaccheus their RB a few years ago wanted to do hard things together with his team and beat VT in the bathroom. Whatever that meant. Bronco the king of catchphrases that make little sense and are awkward.
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Amazing how quickly things turn around. A few weeks ago, UVA had a solid chance at winning the Coastal and prospects of VT football were as low as ever. And now the Commonwealth Cup is in possession, there is optimism afoot, and UVA might get last dibs on coaching carousel.
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Not to highjack the thread...but JC puts the choke hold on Bronco and he leaves. Then Coach MY give Maryland the business and he ups and leaves. Whose next?
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#UVA football coach Bronco Mendenhall said eight players have been out to his ranch this weekend to visit and talk to him, with a few - including Keytaon Thompson and Olu Oluwatimi - having their meetings with him on horseback.โ Mike Barber (@RTD_MikeBarber) December 5, 2021
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Can we entirely rule out the fact Bronco might just have a giant pool of ranch dressing that he calls "the ranch"? And that's where they all meet to discuss his football future?
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I vividly remember being at Pheasant Run, wasted, and running to the bathroom to puke after 15 seconds of that video. Thankfully I was able to rally and save the night.
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Still to this day, I have successfully never watched that video. I did watch the John Mayer parody. That was funny and gave me the gist of the original video, and further cements my decision to never watch it.
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[I literally spent like 15 minutes trying to find a way to incorporate that quote into my response and couldn't find a way that would be better than the all caps reponse I just gave. Thanks @fernleyhokie for hearing me]
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Multiple starting players on LOLUVA have entered the portal including the pass catching starting OL, the starting center who is top three in the nation and starting LB.
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All the Hoos are going to think they will sign all of the VA top ten every year now. I respect Poindexter and would have been open to him coming to coach here. But it's on now.
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Poindexter had been a top candidate for the head-coaching job at #Virginia, where he was an All-America defensive back and longtime assistant coach. Poindexter entered the College Football Hall of Fame on Tuesday.โ Adam Rittenberg (@ESPNRittenberg) December 8, 2021
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While in the heat of the moment I was anxious about what was going on with our hire, Whits tight lips really make us look like a competent organization.
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The Tony Train seems to be picking up steam for UVA now. **checks notes** Clemson had the 95th ranked Total Offense in 2021 with plenty of resources and recruits.
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My takeaway was a little different - more that he thinks they are behaving in a shady way to make money from football. I think he may be grasping at straws but I cant disagree the situation makes UVA look bad.
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First off, eff off.
Second off, should it be The University??? If you are going to be that stuck up and snobby, at least put some spect on it's name, amiright?
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I even ran the 5K along the beach with you and a few hundred fellow 'Hoos, and the shirt from that day hangs in my closet. It goes in the trash if you turn our University into a football school run by the money people.
Not the 5K shirt!!! This sounds serious. I think I'd concede to his demands if I'm UVA's president...
EDIT: A couple other thoughts:
1) You'd think someone who matriculated from UVA could design a better website.
2) I love how the verbiage changes from so utterly formal to lay between the President and AD's emails.
3) This is a microcosm of why UVA is so laughable. Colin Cowherd stands correct 17 years later.
4) I hate the whole "It's hard for UVA to compete in football because of the rigorous academic standards." Give me a break; it's so old and such a white flag remark. What about Stanford? Michigan? USC? Cal?
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Loluva has never and will never be football factory U. I almost agree with what he says about not letting big money donors hand pick your head coach in the letter to Jim Ryan. But then he complains about Carla Williams building a Football ops. building and completely loses me. That place is filled with the most unoriginal, loser mentality, pretentious ass holes.
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Me, as an alum, get a degree and experience forever devalued, because you're turning my world-class academic and research University into a football program with a university as an appendage.
I'm usually not one to nitpick grammar, but the irony here is so thick I want to watch BA lateral to it on 3rd and 8.
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I'm not one to mock someone's internet grammar, but c'mon!
This was from an EMAIL he sent to "The University" President or Athletic Director (I can't remember which.)
Then the pompous a*s brags about it and puts it on his crappy website!?
LOLUVA, and their crappy grammar!
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UVA isn't even close to entering Tennessee Territory - think about that search:
The entire fanbase thought they were getting an NFL HoF coach
Instead, they were about to get Greg Schiano, but after it was leaked, the fanbase rebelled forcing the AD to reneg his offer
The AD flew across the country, made an offer to another coach, was fired on the plane ride home, but didn't find out until he landed.
Said AD was replaced by the university's former football coach, who hired a Saban assissant, who eventually got ousted for minor NCAA violations
Additionally, we would later discovered that (1) the first AD (john Curry) was conspiring (for lack of a better term) with the media to positively portray the greg schiano hire and (2) The second AD (phil fulmer) staged a coup to take this guys spot.
This was some straight Game of Thrones shit. UVA folks aren't savage enough to do something this entertaining. UVA is just an undesirable job. Not much else to it.
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According to Pete Thamel, Elliott is still in play for UVA
Source: Clemson OC Tony Elliott expected to decide soon between Virginia, Duke and staying on at Clemson. He has not pulled out of UVA search.โ Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) December 9, 2021
So who knows... ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
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not just a bidding war with Duke. But with Clemson OC as well. The fact that UVA and Duke are in a bidding war for Head Coach and Clemson is in the same war for Offensive Coordinator is hysterical
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Honestly Duke might be the better job if you want to use it as a steppingstone. String together a few 6-7 win seasons plus one 8 or 9 win season and you set yourself up nicely to make a jump. UVA you probably need multiple 9-10 win seasons to do it. Rightly or wrongly the perception is that you should be able win more at UVA.
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Probably for the same reasons they didn't get Poindexter. If they can't get an alumnus who's in their freaking sports hall of fame, why would anyone else who's worth a damn take that job. They are setting their next coach up for failure right off the bat.
I couldn't be happier.
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With how everything is going with UVA's coach search, it makes me respect and appreciate Whit even more for being able to not have leaks and to get his guy. I hope loluva continues to fumble this process!
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That guy's google pictures scream I played at WVU. Cheesy and Greasy but with a wholesome yet bend you over used car salesman look. Sorry, had to take it there b/c, it's WVU.
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As its football coaching search continues, #UVa's BOV will vote Friday on a request from the athletic department to pull $10.3 million from a special gift fund that could be used to jumpstart fundraising for the school's proposed football facility. https://t.co/OjKMoiqhmVpic.twitter.com/5MeRtjVqsHโ John Shifflett (@John_Shifflett) December 9, 2021
Not good look.
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I just want to say that rereading this thread has really brought me a lot of confidence in our ability to unify when a situation shows up that we all can immediately rally around. Lots of comments in this thread that are totally f*cking hilarious, and all at the expense of LOLUVA.
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How much you wanna bet that the 'snag' is TE realizing he misunderstood and thought he was interviewing at Virginia Tech and when he realized he was at UVa things got.... Awkward
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The confusion of VT and UVA outside the state of Virginia is in fact very very strong. So there's a strong possibility that this scenario is plausible. ๐
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Hearing Elliott asked to see the workout facilities and was then angry when he realized they drove him to a Curves to avoid showing him our actual gym.โ Phony Bennett (@IfTonyTweeted) December 9, 2021
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Curves was the next best option when they failed to locate and showcase the sledge hammer and backyard paving tiles. Bronco must've taken back to the 'ranch'.
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Everyone is in agreement that TE was going to Charlottesville to accept the position and then something happened in the final negotiations right? Coaches don't just take university owned planes from their current college to their possible new college with their families for an interview.
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Sources: Tony Elliott's decision between Virginia, Duke and returning to Clemson as OC is expected this morning. If he does not go to Virginia, Michigan OC Josh Gattis has emerged as the clear top target for the Virginia job.โ Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) December 10, 2021
This is getting absurd now.
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I don't see Poindexter and Elliot turning them down and Gattis signing up, although Michigan and UVA are probably similar in campus culture. Also that report about the $10mil for UVA facilities upgrades might be telling as to how this shakes out.
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Yeah I refuse to believe this. You whiff on an alum and someone that was clearly wanted by fans. Then whiff on Elliot who by all accounts wanted the UVA job. Now you're telling me they can pull the Broyles award winner? I'm smelling a strikeout.
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The #UVa Board of Vistors approves the athletic department's request to pull $10.3 million from its special gift fund to go toward construction of a proposed $65 million, 160,000 square foot football facility. The BOV will review the funding program and site planning in March.โ John Shifflett (@John_Shifflett) December 10, 2021
Looks like a new facility is on the horizon. Will probably be completed just in time for another coach in a couple of years.
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And donors have shown they won't pony up unless they're excited about the coaching hire. Poindexter probably would have done it. Let's see who they manage to hire.
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Sources: Tony Elliott is expected to be the next coach at Virginia. A deal should be finalized in the near future.โ Pete Thamel (@PeteThamel) December 10, 2021
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I don't think this is a great hire. Fairly young, unproven coach whose offensive philosophy (which isn't terribly complex) relies heavily on elite players making plays.
Additionally, what does his network look like? What kind of staff will he be able to put together?
I would have been more impressed (disappointed really) if they had hired Mike Houston.
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He is going to be an issue, young talented black coach. Depending on what resources and hiring he gets to do I see them being better than under Bronco.
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Meh. That offense looked exposed as hell this year. When they don't have Deshaun Watson or Trevor Lawrence running it, they struggled against teams they had absolutely no business struggling against, given the talent gap.
The biggest thing to come out of all this is that Clemson looks to be completely torpedoed right now. In the past week, Dabo has lost his boss, his OC, and his DC. Oof.
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Four former players in that game in Vegas including Renfrow who seemed to be a favorite of his. I'd be interested if that just a detour on a recruiting trip and if not how long he was in Vegas? With both coordinators out the door one would think he would be making sure all his recruits were still on board. If he isn't doing that, that would add some smoke to the fire.
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Bruce Feldman mentioned that the National Football Foundation CFB Hall of Fame awards dinner was in Vegas on the 7th. I believe C.J. Spiller was enshrined this year, so I imagine Dabo went.
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No shit. In a manner of a week Clemson got stripped for parts after suffering their worst year in probably half a decade. We'll definitely see how good of a HC Dabo really is after this. It's been brutal (and a little delicious) to watch. The only downside is that Clemson has been propping up the ACC for the past few years.
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๐๐ผ๐๐๐๐๐ผ๐ถโ๏ธ๐ท A proven champion โ An offensive mastermind โ A developer of NFL talent โ We got our guy! Welcome to Charlottesville, Coach Tony Elliott! ๐ถโ๏ธ๐ท#GoHoospic.twitter.com/bq9oenL8Qkโ Virginia Cavaliers (@VirginiaSports) December 10, 2021
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"we got our guy" after the first guy didn't want you, and after you told your guy you were moving in a different direction, to later call him back and say oh you are our guy...loluva
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ESPN has the headline that UVA hired Tony Elliott and when you click the link it reads:
"Virginia Cavaliers hire Clemson Tigers OC Tony Elliott as head football coach"
- with a giant photo of Bronco Mendenhall from a video which explains why he left UVA
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South Carolina native.
Clemson player.
Clemson alum.
Clemson coach.
No ties to uva (Afaik)
No ties to the state(afaik)
This is a good hire?
Did Poindexter say lolno to loluva?
It's what happens when the clenched jutting chins with 'booksmarts' make decisions outside of their tiny wheelhouse.
Yes, Jeeves, that will do nicely. He can football as well as that last fellow.
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In all seriousness though what do we think of Elliot at UVa? I think the idea that we're somehow jealous is ridiculous. But it can be said he's a bigger name than the last few hires UVa has had in their coaching doom loop.
Also, wasn't Elliot rumored to be the guy Whit was looking at last year? Obviously it didn't happen, which makes me think there's a good reason Whit didn't end up going that direction if its true.
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I dont actually think he is a bigger name. Mike London won a championship in Virginia and recruited like it.
Bronco was a huge surprise and a huge get out of the blue. He had a long history at winning. At the time I thought getting Bronco was a huge commitment to football, then he had people crawling down a hill ... not the last time I will be wrong.
If Elliott was the guy and then wasn't ... why go to UVA? It's a step down from VT. Just seems odd. Anyways, he has really only been at Clemson, things work differently there that lots of programs. It will be interested in seeing his approach. I really didn't like watching their offense under Lawrence. It seemed when things got bad they just started running Lawrence. And sure that could be a wrinkle, but it happened way to often. So I think who he brings in as OC and DC matter a lot. Where as for Pry I think he has the ability to bring Marve along until he is ready. I am not sure Elliott has that luxury. Also DCs are typically on the field, OCs aren't. Soi think In game help is easier on the defensive side.
I find it odd to see UVA go for a coordinator this time just like us. Last time they got a HC from a smaller school, just like us. Both times VT announced the coaching change first.
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The biggest hurdle for Elliot IMO is that he simply doesn't have the network that a guy like Pry has. Who is Elliot going to hire? What will that staff look like? How much P-5 experience will he be able to bring with him?
Huge question marks IMO.
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If Elliott was the guy and then wasn't ... why go to UVA? It's a step down from VT
I get the sense Elliot's perspective is he just wanted a HC position and took the best job he was ultimately offered. Which whether there was truth to last year's rumors or not, ultimately he didn't get the VT job. UVa was simply the best job offer he did end up with.
edit: just want to say to your last point: they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery :)
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I can't say it is a bad hire but it seems like a blind date rather than a natural fit. His offenses dominated the ACC when he had NFL early round picks at QB, RB, and WR so it's hard to say how much was scheme and how much was incredible talent especially when the ACC has sucked around them for years.
He could be Chip Kelly of the east or Fuente of Lane North. So your answer is .... only time will tell
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In all seriousness the only thing that matters is how well he can recruit at UVa, not scheme, not background, not any of the other noise. VT is gonna do what VT is gonna do structurally and they will do what UVa does structurally. The only thing that will make a difference is whether or not UVa is taking recruits that VT needs/wants. Everything else is just adaptation.
If you think he will be able to recruit well and take players from VT then you should be worried. If not, you shouldn't be worried. It's both necessary and fun to beat UVa but they aren't VT's real competition. Beating UVa is like getting through jump school on your way to earning your long tab... necessary but not overly challenging and not the end goal.
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i love the reply you got. it's hilarious that the first thing that comes to a UVA fan's mind when replying to your factual post is a micro-penis....like...that says a whole lot more about him than you
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woah. didn't see that coming either.
I laughed. I don't know why, maybe cuz there's a tinge of smug/"really?!" in that smile.
Bronco got shook by that presser this morning
Plaid
Instead of plaid.... We now go Pry
How embarrassing though, Pry throws shade at the south fla scum and doesn't even acknowledge that little brother exists. Chad
Lose the '/s'
You right
He took one look and realized he was NEVER going to win vs. VT.
Already 1-0.
Bronco was afraid of his hog
T=
Complete horse shit!
Would be funnier if Whit said that.
On mobile, can't embed, but this seems like a fair amount of surprise and Bronco not seeing eye to eye with Carla.
https://twitter.com/uvacoachatuaia/status/1466532298862465026?s=21
Wait, UVA had running backs?
........ technically?
Does this make Brent Pry 2-0 already after winning the press conference today?
He was insanely loyal to his staff. I imagine he was asked to change DC's and maybe didn't want to. Also stated that he wanted to retire young as he has millions from coaching. Lastly, they had been in touch with Anthony Poindexter about possibly being a DC, would they go with him as HC?
If I'm Brent Pry my pitch is "you can come earn meaningful experience with me as a DC at VT and wait for the right HC job to open up, or you can go to UVA and I will get you fired within 3 years and there will be no opening in my staff for a loser"
I think this makes the most sense, you have to imagine there were convos about changes to the D staff after it being purely putrid this year. Sounds like they gave Bronco the hard play and he decided to bounce.
Otherwise, to make this decision on your own so late, and with the Tweet from the RB coach implying this was a surprise would be a real Richard Move by Bronco, specifically to his coaches who are now left scrambling.
Now that all the coaching shuffling is finished LOLUVA decides to join the party... I can't laugh hard/loud enough.
It's a fact that you will always show up late to the party because you spent all night searching the town for a 6'er of Zima.
Wow... this was very unexpected. This coaching carousel window continues to brew chaos.
Bronco wanted a ride on the coaching carousel! Everyone is giving it a spin these days!
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I damn near did a spit take looking at this.
He's certainly good at keeping VT from winning games, so....
Millionair!
Only if he takes Corny with him.
Corn HC fuente DC.
"Ya'll good with 6-6 every year? I'll jet sweep that contract right up!" -CJF
Waited until late in the carousel cycle (carousycle?) to leave em! Ha. We thought he was our enemy, perhaps he was our Broncbro all along with the long con.
Make the move. The best coach we ever had at the Northern campus.
This post needs a time out. Or not
It's going to save them from this thread for the next thread.
YOU!!!
Is he taking his talents to South Bend?
https://twitter.com/paulpetera/status/1466531546404294658?s=20
That's some funny shit.
Jesus, Johnny.
Curly Bill laughing.
Big leg for the reference
Epic burn aside, I checked into the history and unless I'm mistaken you have to go back to Art Guepe who went 6-0-1 against us from 1946-1952 to find a Hoo coach with a winning record against the good guys. That's remarkable.
This is twitter gold lol
Stop. I can only get so hard.
The embarrassingly loud laughter that emanated from my body when I read this post...
Haha! The internet man. Some funny people
Yeah, and I don't know if this has been posted here but I just seen it and had to laugh.
drink up!
Not surprised. Most UVa fans I've talked to are legit scared of VT getting big time with Pry. That hire got their attention.
Look for them to also hire someone with VA ties/recruiting experience to counter VT.
I don't think they have the money they're willing to throw at football like we did. I was reading Le Sabre reactions and multiple ppl were saying things along the line of "if we won more, we'd donate more"..... real forward thinking there.
Oh no, they will likely hire a big reach or someone underwhelming in the end. But no doubt VT and Pry raised some eyebrows up there. Especially also after a VT team with an interim coach came and beat them on their own field with their hero Armstrong at QB. I think the horrible defense was the last straw there.
Bronco was their best coach that didn't coach in the 80s, he did a great job getting UVA some what respectable compared to the London years. So I am not sure what winning more means.
On the flip side, UVAs coaches made more than VTs so they did invest in their program better than VT in 1 aspect. But recruiting, facilities, etc. all add up. So who knows if they want to spend money on a juice bar.
Did he really?
Other than 1 really good season (which pretty much everybody in Coastal can claim in the last 7-8 years), has he really made that much progress in 6 years? Is Uva's football identity any clearer now than 6 years ago? If Armstrong leaves, how much less of a mess will that program be than in 2016?
I guess he was 1-5 vs VT so he's got that going for him...which is nice.
1-5 is the best record for a UVA coach against Tech for UVA in the last 20 years!
Armstrong is GONE and taking the money.
I think you're forgetting how bad UVA was when Bronco got there. He moved UVA from bottom 5 of P5 to mediocre.
Mostly on the backs of two outstandingly successful college QBs.
Both 3-star QBs (.87 & .86). Either Bronco out-scouted everyone to find these guys, or out-developed them. Either way, Bronco found 2 'outstandingly successful college QBs' to take UVA from garbage to mediocre.
I wish we had gotten 2 outstandingly successful QBs
We did, he's at Tennessee though
Let's face it, guys like that don't come around every day. It may be that Bronco has a good eye for talent, but Armstrong has a stellar arm (and a good mind for the game), and Perkins was a great ad-libber. In fact they were both great at making something out of nothing.
But he just had two of those, and it was mostly raw talent that was effective at the college level. I don't think it was because Bronco was a QB Whisperer. If anything, he put some good receivers out there and let them go.
To me Perkins is similar to Jerod Evans. Every once in awhile you strike gold in the portal.
Yeah. Bronco lucked out on that one.
I'm not forgetting at all. The question was "is UVa in that much better shape than when he took over"? I would say "no". It's better, but six years later is still in the bottom 25% of the P5 as a program on the whole and headed down, not up.
I know he's claims it's all personal reflection, blah, blah, but I think ultimately Bronco leaving UVa, not retiring, is him getting off a sinking ship while his rep is still somewhat intact because people always get suckered into thinking lots of passing yards equals quality.
Mike London had one season >.500. Bronco went .500 or better in every (regular) season, except his first. UVA is no longer penciled in to finish last in the Coastal each preseason. I'd call that an improvement.
It's possible that UVA has improved, but Bronco wants out before the ship sink. The two are not mutually exclusive.
I think Bronco can see the writing on the wall, just like we all can.
Their recruiting is slipping, now that the shine is off of Bronco, and UVa would likely take a pretty big step back next year, even if he stayed.
If Bronco had stayed and Armstrong left, they might beat out a truly putrid mess of a Duke program for the cellar next year, but that's it.
So again, is UVa really in much better shape than when he took it over?
Bronco in the cellar?
First thing that came to mind:
Home Alone 2 gif game is strong today.
Don't try to make us sympathize with Bronco.
They made it to a bowl game 4 of the last 5 seasons (would be 5 out of 5 if not for covid), an ACC championship appearance and an NY6 bowl. How much more winning do they need to pony up?
They only care about national championships. So they will never care about football.
With
4142 bowls, that's not a high bar.Also, with the ACC sharing bowl revenues, it's not like you get to keep the money.
They had one really nice season when all of the stars aligned. Welcome to the Coastal.
Other than that, he's never gotten the team beyond mediocre and there is little reason to see that improving.
As college athletics changes (transfer portal, NIL, etc), a lot of coaches are going to lose interest (and other coaches will excel). Roy Williams left UNC because he didn't want to deal with it. Gary Paterson was pushed out because he couldn't. The 'earn your number' BS doesn't play anymore.
Anyways, hope UVA makes another mediocre hire.
Yeah.
Carla Williams is pretty well thought of overall and they're a very successful Basketball/Olympic sports school, plenty of money, and good facilities (or at least funds to dedicate to them).
The right person could do some things there, so lets hope they don't find that guy.
I mean just how far down the pecking order do you go this year before you reach UVa on the coaching circuit.
They very well could be the ones caught holding the bag by the time all the dust settles
Huff in Charlottesville would worry me a bit.
Shhhh. I wasn't gonna say it, but that suck big time
Marshall to UVA is a vertical move, but not that far vertical. If Huff wants a top 25 job, he's better off building Marshall up (where its easier to win than UVA).
I'm more concerned about Chadwell going to UVA. Reddit said Chadwell missed out on a lot of P5 jobs because he wants to take his whole staff with him. UVA might allow that. If Chadwell goes to UVA, they could easily become competent.
That's my concern. That and Tony Bennett just saying "Screw it, I'll coach two sports".
Tony Bennett's offense would be the triple option.
that would be an awesome culture clash to watch.
Or girl
For some reason, I could see him getting into ranching
specifically horse ranching?
they could use the practice and training
this will be their first practice
this is awesome. i hope everyone gets the reference. how did you even find this?! did you know it existed?
Just a gif(t) I guess...just Google'd it.
THIS. IS. AMAZING.
I was having a rough morning until i saw this... this is enough funny to carry me through the weekend
The bit about reassess his wife as his partner stood out to me. Got no clue if it's just translation issues or what but it does seem like 'one of those isn't like the other' situations.
JC "Homewrecker" Price hurt him so bad that he's getting a divorce.
Don't hate the player...hate the game!
it probably is poor phrasing to mean "i will reassess all of these things alongside my loving wife, the best partner i could ask for". but him losing so bad he's contemplating giving up everything is hilarious
Sources!?! /s
I laughed so hard when McMurphy tweeted that but its a misquote. He actually said:
"...I need to step back from college football and reassess, renew, reframe, and reinvent with my wife as my partner our future and the next chapter of our lives"
The extra 'as well as' in McMurphy's tweet didn't exist but made it read hilariously.
After all those years at BYU I figured he would need some time to keep his wives happy
Nobody knew at the time that being 2000 miles away from most of your wives could be so complicated
So basically "I don't want to stop coaching, I just want to stop coaching UVA".
Basically he Urban Meyer-ed them.
One backwards pass to a OL and all hell breaks loose in Charlottesville
well if one win in 23 seasons wasn't enough, that play surely was! hahaha
I could see his wife wanting to leave him over that call. Definitely time to reassess
so kinda like urban myer's health issues...
"resigns" loluva. jc price fucked little brother's whole shit up. put him in the hof yesterday
If it's truly about just being burnt out and wanting to spend time with family he really did a disservice to the team by waiting this late to join the coaching search I would think....we thought we were in a rush to establish a coach for recruiting purposes and availability of good coaches but sheesh.
BUH GAWD THAT'S PAUL JOHNSON'S MUSIC
Oof that would be super annoying. Already seems like Duke might snag Monken from Army and run the triple
That would be a nightmare. Really don't want to see that every year.
Why is the ACC coastal division such a magnet for the triple option? It's absolutely ridiculous
Talking about the ACC in general - there's a lot of nerd schools (Duke, GT, Wake, UVA, maybe Syracuse) that want to be relevant in football, but don't want to make the investment to be great. The triple option is a great equalizer.
more like kneequalizer amirite
In practice, more like kneeremover
Wow. Didn't expect that either.
Bronco on his way out:
With all our WR losses this week, would we want any of theirs that might be entering the transfer portal?
can never have enough practice squad players! lol
Ah come on.... there's a couple ACC caliber players there...
Truthfully they have some good WRs that could go to the draft. I haven't checked but maybe we can flip any recruits from this cycle that are worth trying instead?
Hell yeah... Wicks is a stud and remember Lavell Davis was out all year. He was a beast last year
Their 6-foot 7 (?) tight end was a weapon. Not sure if he would be interested or has eligibility but I would like to know if he would consider it.
If Billy Kemp IV wants to come down to the real Lane Stadium, we could get him some non-stick boxers as seen on SNL!
Did I miss something? Did Kemp crap his pants last weekend?
He was rumored to have done just exactly that after a hit / tackle.
No. He got the shit knocked outta his butthole.
Damn. That's outta whack!
That is unfortunate. Here's hoping they continue their trend of hiring coaches who perform consistently against us.
That is unfortunate. Here's hoping they continue their trend of hiring coaches who consistently under-perform against us. FIFY
Yea. That's his point. Haha
Yeah, that's what he said.
Consistent doesn't mean good.
We done horcruxed his soul into the Commonwealth Cup.
Honestly I respect his decision if it's truly for the reasons he's provided. But this close to early signing? The assistants and staff seemed shocked, everyone seems to be caught unaware. That component of it seems selfish; if he's the CEO of the organization then he's responsible for making sure the transition is smooth. Damn, Bronco.
If it was because he didn't want to make staff changes, he made the choice to put all of them looking for work instead of some of them.
Sound familiar?
At least this will distract the masses over at 247 for a few mins...
I've read about this, but does anybody have a clip of it?
That's awesome.
I just hope whoever they hire keeps Anae as OC
Any insight into how Sabre is handling it? Were they happy or sad with his departure?
I know they were pissed after the loss this year but thought they were generally happy with direction of the program.
After we beat them, they were ready for Bronco to be back out west. I wonderbif they feel that way still.
Their Windows NT server just melted down over this news
Windows for workgroups 3.11.
DOS with a boot disc.
Does Coach Pry go after Anthony Poindexter before UVA can get him?
That would be the biggest power move he could pull and I'm all for it.
That would be baller. There's some chatter out there that Dex has had some sort of falling out with UVA since his last coaching tenure there. But if he's at all on their radar being coach of your alma mater might be huge.
He did them dirty announcing this late in the coaching shuffle. AD is now weeks behind.
Meh, I bet the feeling was mutual.
Saves them the buyout.
If they were going to fire him then the AD would have had a shortlist already. Or he would have been fired already.. If he just decided this week he was done for now the AD is starting from the beginning while jobs fill up elsewhere.
AD should always have a list in case of stuff like this
I bet they went in with some "suggested changes" to Bronco's staff.
That writing was on the wall after the VT game. Bronco looked miserable in that game, like he knew.
Ya hate to see it.
And yet, it's still two days before his buyout would have dropped. Meanwhile, if VT had waited to save $2.5 million in buyout money, we'd still be waiting two more weeks.
Has he ever done anything in coaching that was clean?
I don't think it's that big of a deal for UVA. Just like how VT wasn't competing with USC, LSU, etc for coaches, UVA isn't looking at the same coaches as anyone else with an opening. Maybe Duke? Do you really think there was any candidate available to UVA 2 months ago who is no longer available?
Does Cinci have a spot for Armstrong to come through the portal?
Pry's presser was the Killshot to Mendenhall's screen to an OL.
Holy crap!
Kinda of funny how both VT and UVA had new coaches in 2016 and will again in 2022.
Even funnier that we went 5-1, which was unacceptable, so we canned our coach. And they went 1-5, which is good enough, and their coach quit.
Well their coach made the same number of acc championship games as ours did....
Hopefully they don't upgrade from Bronco. It's easy to laugh now, but we won't be laughing if they somehow get someone better. Seemed like he had a decent couple years (and some bad ones) considering the caliber of that program.
Go Hokies and here's to many more years with the cup
I really thought he had two more years.
I wanted him to have two more years.
Guess losing to an interim head coach who proceeds so smoke a stogie on your home turf will do that to ya. Let's all hope time cop gets brought back
All I ask is that UVA doesn't get an elite recruiter like Huff.
I mean at this point, what are you actually selling at that university outside of a quality education?
That "quality education" isn't nearly all that the Hoos want to make of it either. Certainly not knocking their education, just that they overplay it. It isn't that much better than many other schools, including VT.
I seldom speak to a uva grad, but when I do, I tell them I want large fries.
LMFAO!!
ive given and sat in on some tech interviews for uva grads. oof, really gotta wonder what their cs dept is teaching those kids.
my step-brother went to a small, private, liberal arts school in MD and has literally no dog in this fight - he's told me that he has interviewed and hired both Hokies and Wahoos throughout his career and in EVERY SINGLE case the Hokies outperformed the Wahoos. He was consistently disappointed with the Wahoos - stating that on paper they looked good but their attitudes were crap. He said he'd hire Hokies over Hoos every day from now on - anecdotal evidence but evidence nonetheless
It comes down to philsophy. From an academic perspective (and I've been told this at multiple institutions), VT CS is seen as being very difficult, very math heavy. Not git levels, but up there. We load our students down with heavy math and a lot of super technical 3XXX-4XXX coursework, not a lot of fluff (well, outside of maybe HCI). Over there they don't do this, they approach STEM like liberal arts: they do senior thesis and whatnot. This is nice and all but its not super tech heavy, and undergraduate thesis neither really break any new ground, nor give a strong research framework. Theres a reason why the running joke is "the limit of computer science, as gpa approaches 0, is bit"
Now, to take off my academia cap and give a story:
I sat in on an interview with a recent grad and he was saying he had extensive linux experience. We asked a simple question: "you are placed in front of a linux box and the only thing you have access to is a terminal. you know nothing about this machine beforehand. how would you go about figuring out what it is used for?"
response: "terminal? is that a command line?"
oof
(for reference, the preferred answer is to go through the history by $ history or $ cat ~/.bash_history)
TKP! Come for the sports talk, stay for foreign language education
To piggyback on this, I worked for one of the big boy defense contractors that heavily recruited engineers. I'll never forget an email from a department manager to our recruiting team stating "Stop sending me resumes of these goddamn UVA kids. Sure they know the field but none of them can work on a team and they can't communicate to project stakeholders without being awkward about it."
Apparently for a university that values high academic standards they can't even teach basic communication skills.
Well, when they refuse to words like freshman, sophomore, or campus, what do you expect?
I always liked that VT's college of business made all its students take public speaking and a Microsoft Office lab, regardless of major (this was in the late '90s, I assume it's till true) It seems like common sense that those are skills you need in pretty much any job, but I can't believe how many professionals I meet who don't have them.
Tidewater Community College (Cedar Road University) made me take public speaking for my associates degree. I took a test to avoid the Office class (I see its usefulness, I just didn't want to waste my and their time). Early 2000's
I just assumed everywhere did that kind of thing.
As of the late 00's - early 10s, they no longer required us to take a Microsoft Office lab, but they still required public speaking for any business track. That has probably been the single most useful course for so many of us that were really uncomfortable in public settings
Dad retired after 35 years in the Navy, spent the latter part of his career as an Engineering Director.
Wouldn't even entertain resumes from UVA kids, he thought so poorly of their Engineering program.
Up arrow untiI find something useful! It makes me look more productive to people that don't understand.
But let's get real, first I'm gonna with uname -a. Then I am going to look what sevices are running then I might see the history. Because I want to know what it was meant to be, then confirm what it is, becuase if you have a server names dns-001 and Bind or some other dns isn't running then I am out. I dont have time to deal with that shit.
Don't you know you could just hit Ctrl-R and search for 'ls'? Much faster. /s
one of the best burns I've read in a while. well done.
quality education?
High SAT scores don't actually mean anything.
UVA alumni are very rich, and the school is located in the middle of the state. If some rich plantation dudes wanted to start cutting checks I would be moderately concerned
Late to the party, but man.....
Guy has a horrible record versus VT.
Opens up possible transfers of in-state VA talent to VT.
Puts the uva athletic depth into disarray.
Potentially torpedoes uva's recruiting class while tipping the scales to VT....
He's got to be a serious candidate for the next VT sports hall of fame induction.
him beating CJF not once, but twice, reflected poorly on CJF.
Actually, based on ACC scheduling, it's quite the accomplishment that Babers and Fuente faced off more than once.
Yeah, nobody took those impossible odds.
Nor would any book offer them
It hasn't been for a lack of trying to get fired with garbage play by Babers he's just luckily at a place with the lowest expectations
And a carrier dome that scares the hell out of me for some reason.
Does this mean we can steal any of their cruits?
Well this is f*cking hilarious.
1) Dead serious I hope his life and family are doing well. A sudden change like this suggests there *might* be a personal situation simmering out of sight. Despite my soul-hardened hated for all things LOLUVA I'll never root against someone who might have to go through hard things. Apart.
2) JC just straight up broke that man's soul. Sorry not sorry.
I got the sense that it's something personal as well, based on his comments in his interview.
Not health related, thankfully.
I see what you did there
What will happen to all the pavers Bronco bought for the next few pre-seasons?
Lowe's usually gives an in store credit for expired receipts
the second they try to load those things in a truck to take it back they probably crack. After all, they had to make sure they were thin enough that their defensive guys could actually break them
I mean we all kinda knew it was coming right...
"Moment of clarity"
was this after the ill-considered punt block attempt that led to a roughing penalty and the Hokies maintaining possession?
I remember Spurrier had a similar expression during his tenure in Washington.
I also had a similar expression during Spurrier's tenure in Washington
looks like the same expression Kemp IV had.
This kind of annoys me. It's like UVA is proposing to their Fiance at our wedding.
Naw, it's Stu breaking up with his girlfriend from the hangover
And then us, the attractive prospect, watching in amusement:
Well damn. I renewed dontfirebroncomendenhall.com at the beginning of the season with the intention of finally putting something up there.
Well don't give it up. He alluded to the fact his decision to step down was not permanent. Maybe put up a landing page stating that the site is taking the opportunity to look inwards at its identity, purpose, and mission statement, but you'll be back soon??
Site under construction
With a picture of a broken paver.
This needs to go plaid.
So today VT gets a new coach and announces the 2nd biggest football budget in the ACC. Bronco goes to his boss and asks "Where's that football building you said you were gonna build? Where's that budget increase I was expecting?" So Bronco gets the run-around about how's there's no money, but he should probably find another D coordinator to work for peanuts. At this point Bronco is tired of admin excuses and goes and drafts his resignation letter.
UVa doesn't want to be good at football, and I think Bronco walked out on their lack of support.
And this is probably closer to the truth than you know
If you follow financial news, there's been an enormous wave of resignations as people reevaluate what they want from life during the COvID disruption. I think it's entirely possible (maybe even likely) that an extremely rich dude in late middle age might just say "fuck it I'm moving to the beach" instead of dealing with the stress of football coaching. If I was CFB coach rich id be typing this from the beach instead of my cube
The thing is *most* of those coaches that get to the HC at a P5 program level are wired very competitively and would not be happy at the beach like you (or a lot of people).
The longer I think about this...
And pavers everywhere rejoiced.
Does this mean no more "hard things together"?
Sounds like he quit because UVa didn't want to commit to what it takes financially to keep up and he said fuck it and peaced out
If true, could be some downright ugly years ahead for them
I say bring Bronco on Pry's staff, he'd make a hell of a jock strap washer
He's gotta work his way up first!
He would be ineffective. Everyone knows a Hoo couldn't hold a Hokie jock strap.
So I'm not on the twittersphere so I'll need one of ya'll to embed whatever the heck it is that James Gayle is saying about all of this.
Nothing since Nov 27
My UVA alum buddy (we grew up together. I would have walked away early on if I knew the kind of decisions he'd make at 17) who is pretty plugged in (writes for streaking the lawn and big stats guy in the UVA twitter sphere) says they are going after Poindexter for HC. He did refer to Poindexter as the Penn St. DC which made me laugh hysterically.
Poindexter was named co-DC in February
Fine. Based on Pry's comments today, we know who was calling the shots.
Oh I agree, we got the top DC ๐
But on a technicality your friend wasn't 100% wrong, lol
I'm glad you see it my way!
I never thought I would feel bad for Bronco.... And I still don't
True story.
Hey, wait, is that Armstrong being carried off?
Bronco, to his players as he's leaving.
I told my wife during the game I think he looks like Thanos...or the Baby from Dinosaurs.
*Actual footage from the last commonwealth cup game.
*JC after the game
Gotta add a maryland logo to that now somehow can we add mike young to thanos I'm no DC or marvel geek
Bronco just didn't have the horses to buck the trend of losing to Tech. Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades afterall, just couldn't keep the blinders on that forever. No matter what the neighsayers say I'm sure he'll giddy up and come out ahead in the end.
This is a strong post. I really applaud you for trotting out all those puns. You have demonstrated mastery of English. Saddle up and take a victory lap.
I don't mean to beat a dead horse but got to get your Bronco puns in while you still can!
I'm from NC and I've only ever heard one man speak this idiom and his initials are JR. Please tell me you do not recognize that or this world just got super small.
Pretty common phrase...
It may be, but I'm not joking when I have only heard one person in my entire life use it. I am glad it is more common than I am aware.
Sorry dude, just a common phrase. I often hear the shortened version of it.
"They almost won! Yeah well, horseshoes and hand grenades."
Usually when someone uses that phrase with me, I say "scrabble too" and let it go mysteriously after that
A TD and an XP.
At work, we say, "...and nuclear weapons."
I live in NC and I say this all the time and my initials are not JR
I also like to use the modified version, jokingly "Close only counts in hand shoes and horse grenades"
I add... and nuclear warheads.
My favorite variant is - Horseshoes, hand grenades, and nuclear bombs
๐ป - Drinking early on a friday is fine by me
Later Loser! โโ
I'm gonna miss their linemen crawling around a grassy knoll at a very slow rate of speed in preseason as preparation for football...that clip always made me laugh
Or playing basketball in football helmets. I didn't get that one either.
Those are both good ones, but yall seen the pacman practice? Volume up
How have we not posted this a million times? This is ridiculous. What recruit sees that video and says, hell yeah. That's where I want to go for Hard Things, Together
Colin Cowherd identified those recruits.
Watching that actually makes me kind of sad he won't be coaching them anymore.
this looks like an event at the local junior high youth group, not a P5 football practice
well, with UVA, what's the difference?
That's high academic cosplay at its finest
I was a little surprised to see Fuente come out ahead, as I thought Bronco might have pulled away more the last couple of years. But Bronco also started with a 2-10 season.
Surprised people would think this. But then again, it's a message board, so...not surprised.
Interesting -- according to Jerry Ratcliffe, Mendenhall offered Poindexter the DC job at UVA on Wednesday.
Seems strange given that Mendenhall must have been thinking of stepping down before then.
maybe UVA admin wouldn't approve the salary that Poindexter was requesting, so Mendenhall got frustrated with the lack of resources and resigned?
Or maybe Poindexter declined and that was the last straw for Mendenhall?
Poindexter - do you want to be the DC at PSU, VT or LOL?
Poindexter probably said the only job he would consider at LOL is HC, and Carla said "I can make that happen" in front of Bronco.
No knowledge or insight here at all, but I feel like UVA could go after Bill O'Brien. He sorta looks like a UVA guy too, punchable face and all.
In keeping with Hoo tradition.... Let us read the sacred parting Hoo text:
"When you get what you want in your struggle for self "And the world makes you king for a day, "Then go to a mirror and look at yourself "And see what that guy has to say. "For it isn't your father or mother or wife "Whose judgment upon you must pass, "The fellow whose verdict counts most in your life" "Is the guy staring back from the glass.
"He's the fellow to please, never mind all the rest "For he's with you clear to the end "And you've passed your most dangerous, difficult test "If the guy in the glass is your friend.
"You may be like Jack Horner and chisel a plum, "And think youยนre a wonderful guy, "But the man in the glass says youยนre only a bum, "If you canยนt look him straight in the eye.
"You may fool the whole world down the pathway of years "And get pats on the back as you pass "But your final reward will be heartache and tears "If you've cheated the man in the glass."
this. this is the one I've been waiting for
VT football has a habit of making UVa coaches look hard into the mirror.
Wasn't that the UVa football motto: "Look at hard things in the mirror together"?
Zaccheus their RB a few years ago wanted to do hard things together with his team and beat VT in the bathroom. Whatever that meant. Bronco the king of catchphrases that make little sense and are awkward.
In hoc?
I just watched Bronco's press conference.
Wow.
VT literally beat the coach out of UVa.
If Bronco had won that game, he's still coaching at UVa. That said, Je ne regrette rien. (I regret nothing)
Stop with the French. I can barely handle English.
/s
C'est la vie.
Dรฉsolรฉ
Omelette du Fromage
That's a bit cheesy.
Don't bring up cheese, it didn't end well for me on the other post...
(You know you're old when you understand this reference...)
That's all you can say! That's all you can say!
If understanding that reference makes you old, what does it mean if that show came out after you quit watching cartoons?
Lol! That eventually we're all clustered in the same group: old.
Auld Lang Syne
Aber das ist Deutsch!
Tombstone references always get a leg.
This subject already has 3 "plaid" posts and several more headed that way. I knew the UVA hate was strong but even I didn't know it was this strong.
First thought...
Checks major...
Took me a minute to get. ๐๐
Take your leg you miserable bastard.
/s
Man. That's gotta be a real punch to the nuts.
Nuts? UVA folk don't have nuts. I think you're looking for a different word.
Sucks he didn't cost LOLUVA any buyout money going out the door though.
They have money. It hurts their program more by ditching them this late in the coaching carousel that they are weeks behind now.
He said I'm out
Packer and Durham (ACCN) speculating Poindexter or Hagans as potential new head coaches.
So Commonwealth Cup traditions continue
Hagans seems like a "oh shit" panic type of move, so I'd love it. Would also keep Poindexter to VT alive.
Amazing how quickly things turn around. A few weeks ago, UVA had a solid chance at winning the Coastal and prospects of VT football were as low as ever. And now the Commonwealth Cup is in possession, there is optimism afoot, and UVA might get last dibs on coaching carousel.
of course their overly optimistic fans on their message boards think they will get a home run hire and lots of key guys from the portal
In fairness, that's us on 247 too.
So is BYU looking for a coach again. He is one of the three they would accept.
Sitake has not moved anywhere yet, so they still have a coach.
Depends on how badly they want to be Duke.
Not to highjack the thread...but JC puts the choke hold on Bronco and he leaves. Then Coach MY give Maryland the business and he ups and leaves. Whose next?
Tennessee's Women's Basketball
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Not sure if you're serious or not but she died a few years ago.
At the time, I was semi-serious, because I had no idea.
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It's a farm BRONCO. Good lord
It's Uva, they have a different word for everything
Devil's Advocate here:
Can we entirely rule out the fact Bronco might just have a giant pool of ranch dressing that he calls "the ranch"? And that's where they all meet to discuss his football future?
We now go live to Bronco's ranch ranch:
Saved for next year's Hatin' On:
"Bronco likes ranch on his buffalo wings."
Oh, wait, never mind, he's gone.
The correct hatin' on would be - Bronco like ranch on his french fries.
Ain't nothing wrong with Ranch on buffalo wings (depending on the flavor).
Even better if he likes it on his hot dog...cause I see Bronco as a mayo on fries kinda guy.
Clint Eastwood Ewwww gif.
Four dudes, 1 cup of "ranch"
LOL take your leg
I vividly remember being at Pheasant Run, wasted, and running to the bathroom to puke after 15 seconds of that video. Thankfully I was able to rally and save the night.
Still to this day, I have successfully never watched that video. I did watch the John Mayer parody. That was funny and gave me the gist of the original video, and further cements my decision to never watch it.
Oh man... I AM GUNTAR AND I APPROVE OF THIS PHOTOSHOPPIN'
(side note: those boys are only half dipped, no wonder they lose)
dude this is the softest shit I've ever encountered in all my years on this earth. Perfectly on-brand for uva.
I bet his horses trot like this...
Live look at Bronco's Ranch...
IT'S CALLED DRESSAGE AND IT'S A FINE HOBBY
not that there's anything wrong with that
[I literally spent like 15 minutes trying to find a way to incorporate that quote into my response and couldn't find a way that would be better than the all caps reponse I just gave. Thanks @fernleyhokie for hearing me]
I knew where you were going the moment I saw the all caps ๐ would never leave you hanging.
begs the question of whether everyone had their own horse or not
Bet the conversations went like this..
Live look at the Mendenhall "ranch"
Nope. That is actually footage from another UVA football drill. Try again.
Possibly this....
via GIPHY
Been reported that Bronco was seen headed back toward Utah on horseback....
Multiple starting players on LOLUVA have entered the portal including the pass catching starting OL, the starting center who is top three in the nation and starting LB.
Looks like Poindexter is being finalized.
All the Hoos are going to think they will sign all of the VA top ten every year now. I respect Poindexter and would have been open to him coming to coach here. But it's on now.
Not gonna lie, Pry, who seems like a Hokie thru and thru, versus a guy named Poindexter is the most VT v lolUVA I've heard in a while.
This was good. You win today. I needed that.
Poindexter is literally the name my family uses to make fun of dorks, duds, and other UVA types.
Now
MiamiVirginia wants to talk about ithttps://twitter.com/RTD_MikeBarber/status/1468629384932298760?s=20
Wonder if UVA is a low key Tennessee now?
Oh how the boards are FLAMING over at the LOLUVA site!
While in the heat of the moment I was anxious about what was going on with our hire, Whits tight lips really make us look like a competent organization.
The Tony Train seems to be picking up steam for UVA now. **checks notes** Clemson had the 95th ranked Total Offense in 2021 with plenty of resources and recruits.
Also, there's still the chance Duke pulls Elliot and UVA has to go to whatever their 3rd option is.
This is the best timeline. Elliot goes to UVA and just turns them down too and goes to Duke where honestly he's probably a better fit anyway.
I am guessing if you bring your family on the plane, the job is yours. This is likely not an interview.
https://twitter.com/RTD_MikeBarber/status/1468688538241839118?s=20
I hear Monticello is nice this time of year
Maybe they are just refueling for the hop to the Triangle?
Got you, fam
Maybe Elliott and the fam were interviewing Carla?
If anyone wants a good laugh this afternoon, go here and read this:
https://augustafreepress.com/day-late-dollar-short-my-emails-to-jim-ryan-carla-williams/
I just skimmed this. Is this satire or does this guy legitimately not want UVA to spend any money on football?
It's not satire my friend, this guy thinks uva is too good for football, smh
My takeaway was a little different - more that he thinks they are behaving in a shady way to make money from football. I think he may be grasping at straws but I cant disagree the situation makes UVA look bad.
God, that is the epitome of a entitled wahoo tool right there.
First off, eff off.
Second off, should it be The University??? If you are going to be that stuck up and snobby, at least put some spect on it's name, amiright?
Not the 5K shirt!!! This sounds serious. I think I'd concede to his demands if I'm UVA's president...
EDIT: A couple other thoughts:
1) You'd think someone who matriculated from UVA could design a better website.
2) I love how the verbiage changes from so utterly formal to lay between the President and AD's emails.
3) This is a microcosm of why UVA is so laughable. Colin Cowherd stands correct 17 years later.
4) I hate the whole "It's hard for UVA to compete in football because of the rigorous academic standards." Give me a break; it's so old and such a white flag remark. What about Stanford? Michigan? USC? Cal?
I didn't bother reading his e-mail to Carla but if this is the case that screams racism..or sexism..or both. What a fucker
Only a 'Hoo would hang a 5k shirt in the closet for several years.
Well sure, how else would you preserve the perfectly popped collar on a 5k polo shirt?
I was picturing one of the Gildan t-shirts with all the "sponsors" screened on it...hanging in a closet for 5+ years. Not a nice polo shirt.
(clutches pearls) Oh but we can't be seen wearing such things around "The Grounds," heavens no...
Ouch that hurt my Hokie pride to type that.
Either way, cheap screen print or embroidered polo, the jokes write themselves. These dorks wear suits and ties to football games.
What a bunch of poindexters!
A collared t-shirt is the only way you can display the Brooks Brothers ascot they give you in the race packet.
every time he referred to "the University" I gagged a little...the arrogance is sickening
Loluva has never and will never be football factory U. I almost agree with what he says about not letting big money donors hand pick your head coach in the letter to Jim Ryan. But then he complains about Carla Williams building a Football ops. building and completely loses me. That place is filled with the most unoriginal, loser mentality, pretentious ass holes.
Wow, what a DOUCHEBAG.
That email to Carla was incredibly rude.
Honestly, if she replied that his opinion didn't matter since he is a peanut donor/not a donor, I think it would be appropriate in this case.
I'm usually not one to nitpick grammar, but the irony here is so thick I want to watch BA lateral to it on 3rd and 8.
Are you saying "Me...get a degree" isn't proper grammar?
/s
I'm not one to mock someone's internet grammar, but c'mon!
This was from an EMAIL he sent to "The University" President or Athletic Director (I can't remember which.)
Then the pompous a*s brags about it and puts it on his crappy website!?
LOLUVA, and their crappy grammar!
and he's a journalist to boot. LOL
Uh oh...
Flight tracker also has the plane flying back to Clemson tonight. Ouch
LOLuva ๐คฃ๐คฃ
They'll hire Hagans, then claim he was the one they wanted all along.
What is Carla doing up there?
I don't know but I hope she keeps doing it...
The AD equivalent of a backwards pass to a left tackle.
I like exam week Guitar, it's like the old days.
I would love to upleg this comment, but it's sitting at +69 right now, which is....nice. So here are two more legs.
I hate how much time I spend looking at this gif....
I've never gotten so much schadenfreude from a single coaching search
Tennessee a couple years ago was also amazeballs.
We need a 30 for 30 on that dumpster fire.
uva's current search is what...1 or 2 more rejections away from entering that territory?
UVA isn't even close to entering Tennessee Territory - think about that search:
Additionally, we would later discovered that (1) the first AD (john Curry) was conspiring (for lack of a better term) with the media to positively portray the greg schiano hire and (2) The second AD (phil fulmer) staged a coup to take this guys spot.
This was some straight Game of Thrones shit. UVA folks aren't savage enough to do something this entertaining. UVA is just an undesirable job. Not much else to it.
See, that's why we need a 30 for 30, because the only part I remembered clearly was this:
Bullet point #3 was when they were talking to Mike Leach right?
Honestly, I won't like it if they get Gattis out of all this.
Confirmed. loluva will commit all its football resources to golf.
there's always Manny Diaz!
"uh oh"
According to Pete Thamel, Elliott is still in play for UVA
So who knows... ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
Ah yes, a bidding war with, checks notes, Duke?
not just a bidding war with Duke. But with Clemson OC as well. The fact that UVA and Duke are in a bidding war for Head Coach and Clemson is in the same war for Offensive Coordinator is hysterical
Honestly Duke might be the better job if you want to use it as a steppingstone. String together a few 6-7 win seasons plus one 8 or 9 win season and you set yourself up nicely to make a jump. UVA you probably need multiple 9-10 win seasons to do it. Rightly or wrongly the perception is that you should be able win more at UVA.
you can win 7-8 games with uva if you have a decent set up, and multiple 8 win seasons there would make any coach look good
winning 6 games at duke is way harder imo
Sounds like Dabo doesn't want to lose his OC by entering the bidding war.
Probably for the same reasons they didn't get Poindexter. If they can't get an alumnus who's in their freaking sports hall of fame, why would anyone else who's worth a damn take that job. They are setting their next coach up for failure right off the bat.
I couldn't be happier.
With how everything is going with UVA's coach search, it makes me respect and appreciate Whit even more for being able to not have leaks and to get his guy. I hope loluva continues to fumble this process!
Heard that if Elliot deal doesn't come through, a name to keep an eye on is Ryan Stanchek.
So MIss OL coach... hmmm
It would be oddly fitting if they ended up with a coach who went to West Virginia. I wonder how the academic elite would handle that one.
That guy's google pictures scream I played at WVU. Cheesy and Greasy but with a wholesome yet bend you over used car salesman look. Sorry, had to take it there b/c, it's WVU.
But will he even get in, given UVa's incredibly limiting academic standards
/sssschadenfreude
Following the back and forth with Tony Elliot:
Shit man, this coaching search is leakier than their defense was.
Not good look.
Maybe they're rehire Bronco. That would be amazing.
I just want to say that rereading this thread has really brought me a lot of confidence in our ability to unify when a situation shows up that we all can immediately rally around. Lots of comments in this thread that are totally f*cking hilarious, and all at the expense of LOLUVA.
How much you wanna bet that the 'snag' is TE realizing he misunderstood and thought he was interviewing at Virginia Tech and when he realized he was at UVa things got.... Awkward
The confusion of VT and UVA outside the state of Virginia is in fact very very strong. So there's a strong possibility that this scenario is plausible. ๐
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To be fair, when you consider the "workouts" Bronco came up with, the playland at Chic-Fil-A would've worked just fine.
Maybe Bronco's strange workouts weren't done by choice but by necessity to compensate for the shit facilities.
The workouts were too on-brand for Bronco and UVA to blame the facilities.
How I pictured Bronco running his workouts...
from Forgetting Sarah Marshall GIFs
Curves was the next best option when they failed to locate and showcase the sledge hammer and backyard paving tiles. Bronco must've taken back to the 'ranch'.
Everyone is in agreement that TE was going to Charlottesville to accept the position and then something happened in the final negotiations right? Coaches don't just take university owned planes from their current college to their possible new college with their families for an interview.
To be fair, this is loluva we are talking about. Nothing they do is normal, so they were just doing loluva things.
Perhaps he pulled a Poindexter, and asked if they could lower the academic standards.
This is getting absurd now.
I really hope they end up hiring Jeff Donahue
At this rate, they will hire Jeff Dunham
or Phil Donahue
edit: sorry, wrong pic
If I were Gattis, I'd wait another year and get a better job than UVA.
I don't see Poindexter and Elliot turning them down and Gattis signing up, although Michigan and UVA are probably similar in campus culture. Also that report about the $10mil for UVA facilities upgrades might be telling as to how this shakes out.
He is the last coach I want going to LOLUVA. He has deep ties to NC, NFL experience and top P5 OC. He was my short list for our job.
Yeah I refuse to believe this. You whiff on an alum and someone that was clearly wanted by fans. Then whiff on Elliot who by all accounts wanted the UVA job. Now you're telling me they can pull the Broyles award winner? I'm smelling a strikeout.
It's almost as if they're just pulling names out of a hat.
Or Gattis decided he wanted a raise so he had his agent throw his name to the media
Looks like a new facility is on the horizon. Will probably be completed just in time for another coach in a couple of years.
This money doesn't even get them to 50% which is where they need to be to start permit process.
And donors have shown they won't pony up unless they're excited about the coaching hire. Poindexter probably would have done it. Let's see who they manage to hire.
I can't wait for another sternly-worded email and pretentious op-ed from the Augusta Free Press.
uva has their own wheel of destiny:
C'mon lolUVA find a way to drop the ball again.
If true, good news for us.
I don't think this is a great hire. Fairly young, unproven coach whose offensive philosophy (which isn't terribly complex) relies heavily on elite players making plays.
Additionally, what does his network look like? What kind of staff will he be able to put together?
I would have been more impressed (disappointed really) if they had hired Mike Houston.
He is going to be an issue, young talented black coach. Depending on what resources and hiring he gets to do I see them being better than under Bronco.
Shouldn't be an issue.
Luckily, VT will be better with Pry.
Guess that $10M they just committed to football facilities last night was Elliott's prerequisite....
It's looking like a done deal.
Multiple sources now joining in.
That makes them tailor made to be the ACC's annual sacrificial lamb to travel to El Paso each December.
Meh. That offense looked exposed as hell this year. When they don't have Deshaun Watson or Trevor Lawrence running it, they struggled against teams they had absolutely no business struggling against, given the talent gap.
The biggest thing to come out of all this is that Clemson looks to be completely torpedoed right now. In the past week, Dabo has lost his boss, his OC, and his DC. Oof.
Makes ya wonder if there's any fire to the smoke of Dabo to Vegas I think I read over on TSL. No sauces just another message board comment.
Four former players in that game in Vegas including Renfrow who seemed to be a favorite of his. I'd be interested if that just a detour on a recruiting trip and if not how long he was in Vegas? With both coordinators out the door one would think he would be making sure all his recruits were still on board. If he isn't doing that, that would add some smoke to the fire.
Bruce Feldman mentioned that the National Football Foundation CFB Hall of Fame awards dinner was in Vegas on the 7th. I believe C.J. Spiller was enshrined this year, so I imagine Dabo went.
No shit. In a manner of a week Clemson got stripped for parts after suffering their worst year in probably half a decade. We'll definitely see how good of a HC Dabo really is after this. It's been brutal (and a little delicious) to watch. The only downside is that Clemson has been propping up the ACC for the past few years.
"we got our guy" after the first guy didn't want you, and after you told your guy you were moving in a different direction, to later call him back and say oh you are our guy...loluva
They definitely got a guy.
I'm pretty new here, but is it too early to start his Hatin' On thread?
ESPN has the headline that UVA hired Tony Elliott and when you click the link it reads:
"Virginia Cavaliers hire Clemson Tigers OC Tony Elliott as head football coach"
- with a giant photo of Bronco Mendenhall from a video which explains why he left UVA
That's not a photo, it's a video.
They do that because they don't have video content yet that fits the exact context of the article.
The Bronco video is the next closest thing they have.
I'm sure they'll update it is as soon as they have something better.
I hope he turns out to fit the LOL culture like Fu fit ours.
South Carolina native.
Clemson player.
Clemson alum.
Clemson coach.
No ties to uva (Afaik)
No ties to the state(afaik)
This is a good hire?
Did Poindexter say lolno to loluva?
It's what happens when the clenched jutting chins with 'booksmarts' make decisions outside of their tiny wheelhouse.
Yes, Jeeves, that will do nicely. He can football as well as that last fellow.
I guess we'll have to settle it on the football field.
They may be able to keep Brennan Armstrong with this hire, though.
Let the games begin.
Run it back from the top again!
Can't blame them for wanting to know what their big brother thinks about the hire.
I did good, right? Huh? Tell me I done good...please.
Yes! Let the hope flow through you! Guarantee victory next year. Talk trash all off-season. Your tears will be soooo delicious!
Maybe they should break a rock or something.
It was a paver. Rock would be a step up.
Or put up some reminders in their bathrooms.
Constant reminders are nice.
Hard things together!
AKA: Docking stations
That board is so sad it is pitiful.
In all seriousness though what do we think of Elliot at UVa? I think the idea that we're somehow jealous is ridiculous. But it can be said he's a bigger name than the last few hires UVa has had in their coaching doom loop.
Also, wasn't Elliot rumored to be the guy Whit was looking at last year? Obviously it didn't happen, which makes me think there's a good reason Whit didn't end up going that direction if its true.
I dont actually think he is a bigger name. Mike London won a championship in Virginia and recruited like it.
Bronco was a huge surprise and a huge get out of the blue. He had a long history at winning. At the time I thought getting Bronco was a huge commitment to football, then he had people crawling down a hill ... not the last time I will be wrong.
If Elliott was the guy and then wasn't ... why go to UVA? It's a step down from VT. Just seems odd. Anyways, he has really only been at Clemson, things work differently there that lots of programs. It will be interested in seeing his approach. I really didn't like watching their offense under Lawrence. It seemed when things got bad they just started running Lawrence. And sure that could be a wrinkle, but it happened way to often. So I think who he brings in as OC and DC matter a lot. Where as for Pry I think he has the ability to bring Marve along until he is ready. I am not sure Elliott has that luxury. Also DCs are typically on the field, OCs aren't. Soi think In game help is easier on the defensive side.
I find it odd to see UVA go for a coordinator this time just like us. Last time they got a HC from a smaller school, just like us. Both times VT announced the coaching change first.
The biggest hurdle for Elliot IMO is that he simply doesn't have the network that a guy like Pry has. Who is Elliot going to hire? What will that staff look like? How much P-5 experience will he be able to bring with him?
Huge question marks IMO.
I get the sense Elliot's perspective is he just wanted a HC position and took the best job he was ultimately offered. Which whether there was truth to last year's rumors or not, ultimately he didn't get the VT job. UVa was simply the best job offer he did end up with.
edit: just want to say to your last point: they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery :)
I can't say it is a bad hire but it seems like a blind date rather than a natural fit. His offenses dominated the ACC when he had NFL early round picks at QB, RB, and WR so it's hard to say how much was scheme and how much was incredible talent especially when the ACC has sucked around them for years.
He could be Chip Kelly of the east or Fuente of Lane North. So your answer is .... only time will tell
Really well put. I'm concerned about the hire, but it could definitely fail.
In all seriousness the only thing that matters is how well he can recruit at UVa, not scheme, not background, not any of the other noise. VT is gonna do what VT is gonna do structurally and they will do what UVa does structurally. The only thing that will make a difference is whether or not UVa is taking recruits that VT needs/wants. Everything else is just adaptation.
If you think he will be able to recruit well and take players from VT then you should be worried. If not, you shouldn't be worried. It's both necessary and fun to beat UVa but they aren't VT's real competition. Beating UVa is like getting through jump school on your way to earning your long tab... necessary but not overly challenging and not the end goal.
I knew an old VT AD that thought a good LOL UVA football program was good for VT as well. Everyone benefits. Never mentioned specifics.
This is my concern, especially on offense. Hopefully, I'm wrong.
Had to
It'd be funny if no one showed up, especially Tony Elliot.
I'd say it's 50/50...
i love the reply you got. it's hilarious that the first thing that comes to a UVA fan's mind when replying to your factual post is a micro-penis....like...that says a whole lot more about him than you
Hahahaha, he's on his 4th account, but it's not his fault...hahahaha.