Coach Jones is rocking being a Hokie!

I'm loving the tweets from him on the recruiting trail, but here's a couple that really stuck out to me - so happy to have him on board!

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Tre Turner has been trying to get lemon pepper wings there for years. That tweet was funny.

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I hope anyone can order them. Looks bangin.

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This man is single-handedly mending bridges with VA high schools the previous regime burned down.

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I was just thinking about this, then realized that even though I haven't met him, he certainly seems like the kind of guy that, if I had a kid who was being recruited to play football , I'd feel like he'd be a good mentor for my kid, and certainly seems to have the history of developing talent. I'd be all on board sending my kid to Tech to play for him (you know, if I had one).

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Tinder? then what the hell is the point if TKP?

I think you and I are looking for different things in our TKP experiences

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Not sure who has or hasn't followed him, but he posts some great stuff! I'll stop posting his stuff, but just wanted to recommend following him if you are on the Twitter and haven't followed him!

Feel free to keep posting. I'm sure others also have quit facebook/twitter but still enjoy reading the curated postings.

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Fair enough - I'll try not to overdo it.

No, please do overdo it. I don't use Twitter and that seems to be where he lives, but these are all gold.

Some of the stuff is just flat out good life advice. I follow him, get the inspiration stuff and VT football content in one. It's a nice one stop shop

Good point - the stuff I posted is great for recruiting and seeing that it looks like he's definitely embracing being a Hokie, but yes, he has a lot of stuff that applies generally to success in life. I should have mentioned that when I suggested following him for those that have Twitter.

One football related, one not.

Just curious, do we usually fly the coaches around for recruiting? Is this new?

You will see this game, this upset and this sign next on ESPN Sportscenter. Virginia Tech 31 Miami 7

His decision was made after a phone call with longtime Virginia Tech assistant coach Bud Foster. All Foster told him was, "We win. They don't."

Much easier to get to high schools when you're not in tunnel traffic.

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I don't think we do, assuming the plane is mostly because Pry is there. If it was position coaches, they'd probably just be driving. Unless they're making heavy use of the plane this first year on the recruiting trail to get their guys out because they're not just trying to see recruits, but in some instances, build the relationships. I wonder if Pry is there to try to mend stuff with Oscar Smith.

The first trip out last week had four assistants on the plane. So maybe this was because of Pry but I suspect they will also use the plane if a bunch of assistants are traveling together.

"Exit light..."

We've already been trashed for not hitting every school in 757 on the first day. Using the plane probably lets us add at least five hours of FaceTime to every trip. I'd say we will see it used more, just as a way to be time efficient and effective. Our coaches have a lot of ground to make up.

Makes sense though that trashing seems pretty ridiculous.

You will see this game, this upset and this sign next on ESPN Sportscenter. Virginia Tech 31 Miami 7

His decision was made after a phone call with longtime Virginia Tech assistant coach Bud Foster. All Foster told him was, "We win. They don't."

Easily.

Let's call it a 5 hour drive from Blacksburg to Norfolk and then the same back. 10 hours round trip sitting in a car. In a jet like a CJ, that's maybe a 30-40min flight, figure an hour block time with taxiing. So you're at an 8 hour time savings by taking a jet vs. driving. If you figure you've got 4 guys in the plane and they all scatter once you land and hit different schools, it's an amazing amount of time savings.

My surprise is that they're using a jet for trips like this when a turboprop like a TBM or PC-12 would be more economical and realistically just as fast.

But I don't think Tech has a TBM or PC-12 at their disposal. They have a Cessna Citation Excel and a Cessna Citation Sovereign. You could lease something smaller, but why do that if you already have a horse in the stable.

Take the shortest route to the ball and arrive in bad humor.

Because it's a LOT cheaper to operate a TBM or PC-12 than it is those jets, especially for short range trips. Figure a TBM is probably $1k per flight hour and the XLS is at least $2.5k per flight hour. You've saved $3k on that one flight to Norfolk using a TBM vs. the XLS. A TBM/PC-12 also doesn't require a type rating because it isn't a jet.

Yes, they have a horse in the stable, but why use a thoroughbred when you can get a quarter horse that will work just as well and be cheaper in the long run.

Sounds like you know your stuff.

Maybe you can convince Whit that Pry's 6-hour radius strategy can save him some money on the plane and go into support staff now that we won't be recruiting in Texas and need the jet as much...

I know enough to be dangerous. I've owned my plane (little 4-seat piston) for about 5 years now and it's made certain trips SO much easier. When we lived in Norfolk it was a no brainer to fly to BBurg (1.5 each way) vs. driving (5hr plus traffic). And with the Blacksburg Airport (BCB) being so close to the stadium there was even more incentive. Now that we live in HooVille, it's a little bit more of a coin flip, but I will gladly "pay" the money to fly vs. deal with the BS that is 81.

The upside to flying is that there are SOOOO many small airports throughout the NC/VA/WV/MD area that provide access vs. flying into a regional airport.

So how does this work? Do you have to pay to land/park at the Blacksburg airport? Assuming you have to schedule arrival/departure ahead of time?

This would be awesome to have a plane and just fly in for a game. I am envious for sure.

It all depends on the size of the airport, aircraft, and duration of stay. For instance, BCB (Blacksburg/Montgomery Exec) starts charging ramp fees once you hit 6,000# gross. This allows smaller planes to freely use the facility. That means you can land, walk into the FBO, piss, walk around town, get back in your plane, and fly away without paying a dime. If you spend the night you'll get charged an overnight fee, but again, with BCB it's pretty reasonable. The way BCB makes up for that is gas. They used to be on the cheaper side but their price of avgas has gone up in the last year.

As for arrivals, outside of your larger airports (Dulles, Charlotte, Atlanta, DFW, etc.) you don't need to arrange an arrival or departure time with airports. I could fly down to Raleigh right now and give them a call in the radio 30nm out and they'd work me into the sequence. Now, if you're flying in inclement or cloudy weather, you'll need an instrument flight plan which technically would give a departure/arrival time, but that has nothing to do with the airport and is solely for the national air transportation system.

I'm in Charlottesville and my Tiger is at CHO. If anyone is ever in the area and wants to go flying, let me know. I enjoy taking people up if they've never been in a small GA plane.

I'll see if my son (6) ever gets into aviation. I'll reach out if it happens.

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I'm in Charlottesville and my Tiger is at CHO. If anyone is ever in the area and wants to go flying, let me know.

As someone who's always had an interest in flying, what's your recommendation for the easiest, most cost effective way to get into it? I live in Christiansburg so easy access to Blacksburg but I've never been sure where to go to get lessons and then be able to fly without necessarily owning my own plane.

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Start with these 2, as they are closest to you. Flying clubs are a good value in general. Do your research and meet the folks in person. Like most ventures, personalities are important aspect in making your decision.
I am not affiliated with either or have any financial interest. Just pointing out to you 2 businesses in your backyard that are available to you. Good luck in your searches!
http://www.hokieflying.com/frameset.htm
http://www.sheltonaviationinc.com/

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I'll echo what AlbemarleHokieDad said. Look around for a flying club, either at BCB or maybe down the road in Pulaski (New River Valley Airport). There's a school down there as well (https://www.newtechaviation.com/home/).

The easiest and most cost effective way to get a license is to take it seriously and put the time into it. I'd highly recommend signing up for one of the online ground schools, either through Sporty's, King, Gleim, etc and knocking that out before you start flying, (a) to make sure you really want to get your license and (b) to help with a baseline of knowledge. Make a plan to fly at least twice a week, 3-4 if possible. This keeps everything fresh in your mind vs. flying once a week and letting your skills atrophy so you have to spend (literally $$) a half hour each lesson relearning the old stuff. Part 61 instruction (which you'll inevitably use) requires 45 hours minimum before a checkride. The national average to get a PPL is anywhere from 55-70 hours depending on your commitment. Easiest way to reduce cost is to commit to it.

What he said.
First goal, if you are serious about this endeavor, is to get your medical done. Class III is all you need for private pilot cert, and is very basic. That said, if you have a disqualifying condition you will know about it before spending large sums of money. Also, some conditions are eligable for waivers. Then there is the recreational pilot certificate.
Hope it helps.

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THIS! SO MUCH THIS!

I can't stress that enough. I've got a friend who decided that he wanted to be a pilot at the age of 45 (after working as an A&P for United for the last 15-20 years. He waited to get his medical and is now stuck in a battle with the FAA because he went to a doc during a hard point in his life and was given an anti-depression med.

The FAA's stance on mental health is barbaric and obtuse.

Thats pretty much inline with all federal government positions. They're all barbaric and obtuse.

EDIT: they're all barbaric and obtuse when it comes to mental health issues.

When the feds enact policies like this it's usually something leading industry groups ask for. Seems like commercial pilot's limiting their liability (cheaper insurance) and erecting barriers to entry that ensure demand for their labor remains consistent and at a premium. Doctors and lawyers do the same thing. Probably engineers too.

I the govment usually acts because big companies wanted big barriers to competition.

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Sure, that can be a reasonable assumption, but that's not the case here. Congress/FAA raised the requirement from 250 hour for an ATP to 1,500 primarily due to the Colgan Air crash in '09, even though both pilots had well in excess of the 1,500 hours mandated by the new rule change.

Doing so instantly created a time delay for new pilots due to the increased time/cost barrier to entry. It helped to drive up wages for pilots (which were dirt low at some regionals...seriously, it used to be that regional airline pilots qualified for assistance). There has been repeated push by the airlines to decrease the rule in order to alleviate their hiring issues as well as decrease prices.

If you're first sentence was true, the hour requirement would have been raised to 500 or 750 hours to placate Congress and the masses. 1500 hours in the grand scheme doesn't make much sense anyways as most pilots get to 1500 hours by instructing for 1-2 years in a single engine (maybe ME) piston aircraft, not a jet or turboprop like they'll be operating at a regional.

Total time threshold for the ATP rating has been 1500 hours for as long as I can remember. I did my atp ride in 1993, did my first flight lesson in 1986 and even then it was 1500 hours as I recall. Congress raised the airline entry barrier after Colgan in kbuf. The industry has a pilot shortage presently due to congressional action on both sides of airline pilot longevity. Mandatory retirement age 65, and 1500 TT to get into the right seat of a 121 carrier. Same exact accident scenario happened in Columbus in 1994, United express (my employer at the time). Lessons learned from that accident were sadly forgotten.
My guess is the airlines will go hat in hand to Congress and ask for an increase in retirement age to age 67. No way in heck I'll be dragging a bag past 65.

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I thought part of the reason about being on anti-depressants related to FAA is you can do a lot of damage flying a plane into something if someone decides that's how they're going out.

Which makes sense but you can't even see a mental health doctor for most government entities except for death in family and postpartum. There is a lot more to mental health than depression.

You're also allowed to see for marriage counseling.

Would you rather have a system where (a) a pilot who has mental health issues is actively seeking help from a medical professional with the proper licensing and monitored by the airline or (b) a pilot with mental health issues who can't see a professional for fear of losing their medical and being banned from their profession and self-medicates using alcohol/drugs?

Because right now, you have system B. The FAA overhauling their outdated approach would make things safer and allow pilots suffering mental health issues to get the support they need. It would also help the kid who wrongly gets diagnosed with ADHD from being banned as a pilot (even a private pilot) through no fault of their own.

Fair point. I was going off where someone had previously seen a mental health professional, and assume rules would be different for private pilots since they don't have companies that could monitor things as you mention.

No, that's the craziest part. I, as a GA pilot, flying just myself or acquaintances with a 3rd class medical have similar restrictions as a person flying an airliner with a 1st class. There are some additional questions on a 1st class and the examination interval is shorter, but the underlying issue is still there.

Germanwings tragedy comes to mind. FO was beyond a hot mess, should have never been in that cockpit. Lots of red flags that were never seen.
Edit: airline name corrected for accuracy.

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AirBerlin or Germanwings?

Thanks for the correction. Germanwings.
Corrected in my comments.
Much appreciated!

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Holy thread hijack batman....

My wife takes the kids and leaves the house while I watch my Hokie games.........nuff said

One does not make money in aviation, but off of aviation./s
It is called the 100 dollar cheeseburger for a reason.
Landing fee, ramp fee based on a/c weight, airport tax, county tax, fuel hookup fee, and on and on at lots of airports. No idea what bkb charges, but that is readily available public info.

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RampFee is a great tool for pilots to look up the cost to fly into an airport, however it's community sourced information, so not everything is there. For instance, Koury aviation in Greensboro isn't listed under the GSO page.

Dude has Grumman in their username.

Dude knows planes

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Maybe. It's not like I know tables.

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Jets are faster, can fly over the weather most often. The aircraft is part of the V. T. Foundation, so my assumption is it is not just for athletics, but for the president and other officers of the university. Then there is insurance issues for the college president and other high position employees. As in, no travel on turboprops either single engine or multi engine, that all air travel be on turbojet rated aircraft with an approved mx training and pilot training program in place. Hourly operating rates established out there. I'll see if I can dig them up later.

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I'm not disagreeing, but it seems like there's room in the stable for another option for stuff like this, where you can get away with using a SETP vs. a jet. Maybe it's too much of a PITA for VTF. Insurance requirements make sense and I'm pretty sure that's why the Falcon triples are so popular.

I found a good website for the hourly operating rates, but it's subscription only.

A plane makes even more sense if you can drop passengers as you go, i.e. drop 1 guy at airport A, 1 @ B, 1 @ C, 1 @ D so they can all hit up different schools in different regions, and then you turn around and pick them up in reverse order.

I'm not a plane expert but this would seemingly put a lot of wear on the plane. I think planes are machines who's wear is measured more in cycles rather than run time because the stress of taking off/landing/pressurizing takes far more toll than just running the jet.

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That's why we're launching the 'Fly for 25 (million)' campaign; we're gonna need some new wings.

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You're right, most turboprops & jets track cycles vs. piston aircraft which track hours. That said, this type of use would be baked into your operating costs and would most likely result in a higher operating cost, but if you're saving your staff's time by extending their reach, then it's most likely a wash.

Get the coaches skydiving trained. You want to win recruiting in this Twitter world, land in the middle of the football field with a parachute to hand the kid his offer.

Plan for the worst and hope for the best, not the other way around.

I like the way you think. VT does have a skydiving club that jumps out of Orange...

That said...jump planes are not the fastest in the land...

Yeah, my understanding is that opening the door on a jet is ... ill advised.

Edit: specifically when it's in flight, in case there was a question.

Yea...usually the only ones that are supposed to do that have that big door in the back...

Or they're owned by Harrison Ford and he's yelling at you to get off his plane.

Even the ones with the big door in the back I'm sure have something to accommodate those pesky air pressure problems.

Or yes, like the ones Harrison Ford is telling people to get off/out of.

Side note, my dad was a pilot in the Air Force, so grew up hearing how all sorts of scenes in movies aren't realistic or whatever ("those aren't Migs, those are (whatever they were)" or "that stripe on the wing means it's a trainer"). What a way to grow up 😂

This is me too. Navy aviators all arpund me. And i built radio systems installed in specialized versions. I know more then i want, but it does help, sometimes.

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They just close the door to the cockpit and depressurize the cargo hold. My guess is the pilots also go on oxygen just in case there's a leak.

I've got a buddy who's a C-17 pilot. I'll be sure to ask him.

Eh, I'm being lazy. I'm almost 100% sure you're right. My dad flew C-141s and my brother flew C-130s, C-5s, and I believe C-17s (also for passenger airlines, but they GENERALLY don't open any doors mid-flight), so I could check also.

Sweet, something aviation related that I can comment on.

Two types of ways to jump from an airplane while in flight safely. Static line (the static line is looped to the top of the parachute and deploys it automatically) and MFF (Military Free Fall). Static line is easy, jump altitude is typically between 1,000 and 1,500 ft AGL (Above Ground Level). You can exit the A/C via the troop doors or the ramp of your big cargo planes (C130, C17, and C5) The 141 is no longer in service and I don't think you can do a ramp blast on a C17 or C5, at least I never have. Ramp blasts are normally reserved for C130's and CH-47 chinook helicopters. The A/C has to slow down to a speed of 130kts or the static line can break or damage the parachute on opening shock. Sometimes the pilots don't like slowing down that much because the A/C is borderline stalling at that point, especially the bigger ones. As a Jumpmaster it's imperative that you triple check the drop speed with the loadies before sending the troops out.

MFF, also known as HALO/HAHO (High Altitude, Low Opening or High Opening) Anything above 15K ft and everyone has to be on oxygen, even the jumpers after they exit the A/C. Most aviation units will require you to put them on at 14K just to be safe. MFF jumpers can exit in the same manner as static line jumpers although, 9/10 times they will utilize the ramp.

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I dunno man. Static line may be "easy" but getting out at 1000-1500 is too low for this guy. I think the lowest I've done (sport side, not military) is 3k. SL is a helluva pounding, even with a properly PLF.

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badass.

Skydive Orange leases a twin otter during the summer jump season. Bought my hokie junior an intro flight lesson in a citabria across the field from SO a couple years ago and while he was in the practice area I drove over the skydive to watch the ops. The otter mission was neat to watch as the pilot hit all his gates from drop to block in for the next load up of jumpers. Then I saw a jumper flare too early and too high. Dropped from about 50 feet and went thud. Broken femur, ribs, not sure what else, but that was enough for me. No good reason to leave a perfectly good airplane.

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I'm glad you know what all of that means. Have a leg.

SDO leases both the Otter and Caravan. Otters are awesome jump planes and the ones with -34s are rocket ships.
I've heard of the outfit your talking about and I wanna drive up there and do a couple of aerobatic lessons with him.

Too bad about the jumper. I'm surprised, SDO has a pretty good program and good safety record. That said, I've taken a canopy course there where people in the course ran into (a) the fence between the landing area and the ramp, (b) draped their canopy over the barbed wire behind the hangar surrounding a couple of transformers.

Not all jumpers are good canopy pilots which is unfortunate.

I saw lone jumpers get blown a mile downwind and land in a field/treetops at the access road/maint rte intersection that day along with the stall out. Then there was one guy who zipped right over my head (I was sitting on the picnic tables) and "water ski'd" on the grass strip right in front of the hangar. The only safe jumpers were the tandems. They seemed to be the only ones with any self discipline, due mostly to the instructors' sense of self preservation.
Highly recommend the aerobatics instructor. I don't trust my kids with anyone and he was recommended to me by my buddy who flies with the Geico skytypers. Downside is the instructor is not a primary instructor, but I wanted my son to get some stick and rudder taildragger experience so he could get a taste of what real flying is like. He enjoyed it.

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Like I said, not all jumpers are good canopy pilots and they get themselves into trouble. The guy who zipped over your head was landing in the high performance area which helps to keep traffic separated so that the smaller faster parachutes aren't having to weave through the slower ones. Tandem canopies definitely are the safest because of the whole "I've got someone else's life in my hands" thing.

Good to know about the aero instructor. You're talking about Dan?

That would be him! He did nearly 2 hours flight with my boy. S&L, climbs, descents,turns. Then he taught him l&r airleron rolls, loops, then demonstrated a hammerhead on the way back to the pattern. Talked my son through the pattern and landing. They did about an hour and a half of ground school and parachute instruction prior. My son has logged more tailwheel time than his old man!

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Awesome! I'd heard about him but a first hand review is great. I'll give him a call in the spring. Do you fly out of CHO?

I commute out of cho. Beats living in base.

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Where's your base?

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Email sent.

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Maybe a meetup in the near future. Any way to p.m. each other on this forum? Imma Martin's guy myself.

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I'm curious as well.

Down here in clemson land, Dabo has had keys to the clemson plane for some time.
There was some 'scandal' a few years ago that I vaguely remember before it disappeared, whether taxpayer $ was being used or not.

But, perhaps this was part of Pry's deal to allow access to plane?
Joining the big boys?
(Or we've been doing it all along, but now we have actual engagement and its the first I remember seeing it.)

Tech has a couple of planes (was mentioned previously that it's a Citation XLS and Sovereign) based at BCB. It's in Pry's contract, I know it was in Fuente's and Beamer's that they can use it for recruiting purposes and then they also get so many hours per year for personal reasons.

This entire subthread brings up a key question from me.
What are the reasons for VT airport 1000' extension (length increase up for debate)? A lot of rumors of VT getting bigger plane. Certainly its to get alumni big wigs w bigger planes here.
Anyone with info, please engage. Thanks

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Bcb is at what, 2500' elevation? That has an adverse impact aircraft takeoff and landing performance. Also, an extension gets bigger aircraft into the fbo, which also has the benefit of expanding the tax collection base to the airport. Also, airports authorities are always seeking and getting grants for expansion and improvements to the field, ramps, runways, and safety equipment. Federal mandates get handed down regularly for the airports to meet faa standards that have to be complied with. Safety overrun areas was one of the more recent mandates. So as to minimize the likelihood of another Burbank or midway overrun from happening. Also, runway lengthening allows for larger aircraft operations and also for lower approach minimums to be established. Close to 6000 of runway gets charters landing in bcb instead of roa.

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Im sure there is also a Tourism and Economic Impact Assessment for an expansion of the airport filed either with the City of Blacksburg or with Montgomery county. These things are generally years in the works.

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Exactly. One of the main advantages to lengthening it is that it allows larger jets to be able to operate out of BCB while allowing them to properly deduct from their takeoff/landing calcs due to runway conditions, i.e. rain, snow, etc.

Bigger planes. I flew on a private jet to Wisconsin a few years ago. They had to pick us up at the Dublin airport because the Blacksburg extension wasn't done yet. And that wasn't a big jet. Maybe a 12 passenger Cessna. Used to be the jet for the owners of the Seattle Mariners or some such.

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It can be if eaten on top of a hot dog or pulled pork sandwich.

But it is a salad in its own right.

With comments like that, we can be friends.

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The spicy coleslaw neighbor from El Salvador (known as curtido) is excellent on pupusas, tacos, or as a side salad.

The acidic coleslaw cousin from Eastern Europe (sauerkraut) is delicious on sausage, pierogies, or schnitzel.

I'm also a big fan of shredded cabbage with dressing complimenting my baja style fish taco.

Coleslaw (and cabbage in general) is pretty versatile, and honestly should be elevated above typical shredded lettuce toppings and lettuce salads.

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Classic Reuben and the turkey reuben (rachel) with slaw. Aw yiss.

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Agreed. Much prefer slaw to kraut on a Rueben.

I think bad kraut has ruined many a sandwich. And also pulling too much juice out of the jar. The sandwich shouldn't be soggy with juice.

Good kraut is a wonderful thing.

IIRC, Buzz had specifically asked for access to a plane for recruiting purposes. If our basketball team is getting a plane, I am sure our football team would too.

https://ats.vt.edu/about.html

Unfortunately they've masked the two tail numbers, N51VT and N80FW so you can't track them using commercial sites like FlightAware.

Interestingly enough...there's a third flying machine registered with the FAA for Virginia Tech, a Buckeye Dream Machine which is a powered parachute. Not sure Pry wants to be doing recruiting trips in that though...

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That Buckeye Dream Machine must be for recruitin' because it says it's registered to "Virginia Tech University"

At least now we know where they are getting it from! Lol

Man that would be cool to land next to a recruit. But a bit cold.

I'm guessing that was spoils from the 2014 game.

The Buckeye Dream Machine was stolen by Michael Brewer and co that day....

Possibly. I wouldn't be surprised if VTF didn't go full bore and block it at the FAA level (https://ladd.faa.gov/)

Does that allow them to block the registration on ADS-B out, though? I understood the LADD to just be about datasets provided by the FAA. There are plenty of aircraft you can track through pure ADS-B that surely would like the privacy, such as Elon Musk's jet (in fact, he's derided the lack of privacy around this, so I'm sure he'd block it if he could).

I'll check the site every once in a while for the VTF tail numbers, maybe I'll have lucky timing...

You're right. The LADD just stops the FAA data from being seen by the general public, but like you posted in your other thread, if the plane is in the air it can be tracked via ADS-B out.

Funny enough, I checked it this morning and saw the XLS on final for Richmond

Absolutely, that needs to be taken into account. But if you substitute a TBM or PC-12 in for the KA, you'll burn half the fuel which reduces your operating cost, you'll actually go faster (TBM900 at MGW will do 313kt @ 65gph), and you can fill your 4 seats.

I'm not saying that it's the answer to everything, but I'm still surprised that there isn't a SETP in the fleet for shorter missions.

What we need to do, apparently, is have a handful of us become billionaires and donate shit-tons of cash and various planes to the athletic department, primarily for football.

I volunteer for the assignment.

More winning at being a Hokie!

Not Jones, but the graphics team has been going hard lately. I see at least one or two new ones a day come across the timeline

Meanwhile, UVA's coaches are taking pictures in front of the Cavalier Hotel (Get it?). I can guarantee they're not gonna find any talent at the north end in VB unless they're recruiting for the lacrosse team.

Then again, with the staff they've hired, they might be scouting at Fort Story...

I'm here for the memes, I just stay for the football.

Lame AF, just like the rest of the school

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Callused perineum is a symptom of being a uva fan

The whole "For All Virginia" bs they have been putting out is so pretentious. Definitely don't speak for me as a Virginian.

It's the equivalent of putting Great Value brand steak sauce on your filet mignon.

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Callused perineum is a symptom of being a uva fan

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t's the equivalent of putting Great Value brand steak sauce on your filet mignon.

FIFY. Steak sauce is unnecessary on any properly cooked steak

Oh I agree 100%. I fuss at my kids every time they reach for A1 when we're having steak.

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Callused perineum is a symptom of being a uva fan

Oh I think he knows that, he was only exacerbating the egregious act of saucing a good steak by saucing with a bottom tier sauce. Much like choosing to play football somewhere other than Tech, a few make that decision even worse by choosing uva.

Plan for the worst and hope for the best, not the other way around.

The ONLY place for steak sauce is on a burger!

When I grill burgers, I make a little divot in the top with my thumb and put Worcestershire sauce in it.

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a burger isn't grilled right, unless it is made with Worcestershire sauce

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I put A1 on just about everything but a steak. Baked potato skins, tater tots, french fries, mac and cheese, the list goes on.

So you put that shit on everything, like Texas Pete Franks?

You will see this game, this upset and this sign next on ESPN Sportscenter. Virginia Tech 31 Miami 7

His decision was made after a phone call with longtime Virginia Tech assistant coach Bud Foster. All Foster told him was, "We win. They don't."

Ewww. Texas Pete is just watery cat shit in a bottle.

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That's franks

Damnit! Corrected

You will see this game, this upset and this sign next on ESPN Sportscenter. Virginia Tech 31 Miami 7

His decision was made after a phone call with longtime Virginia Tech assistant coach Bud Foster. All Foster told him was, "We win. They don't."

My Texas buddies always call it "North Carolina Pete."

Why did they make the state so small? Why did they make the flag blurry? Why did they color bomb the background so much that you can barely tell what it is? I 100% could have made a better graphic than this

Not even to throw shade at loluva, but just in general, I had the same train of thought. This looks like something a high school student threw together for a class project.

More like:

This looks like something a high school student UVA graduate threw together for a class thesis project.

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

Gotta color bomb the background or you'd be able to see how many empty seats there are in the stadium

flag is blurry to not show any nudity.

I could eat an inkjet cartridge and sh!t and better design.

h/t LaVada Adams

This has the same stink and awkwardness feel to it that those "Awkward Family Photos" have.

I couldn't quite put my finger on what the deal was with that photo, but you nailed it.

I live 8 miles down Shore Dr. from the Cavalier hotel, I 100% back up your statement. A lot of people who live in the North End have this really weird "I'm better than you" mentality.

"The Big Ten is always using excuses to cancel games with us. First Wisconsin. Then Wisconsin. After that, Wisconsin. The subsequent cancellation with Wisconsin comes to mind too. Now Penn State. What's next? Wisconsin?" -HorseOnATreadmill

Sounds like a fertile Wahoo territory then! No talent and arrogant

Pretty sure a Hokie owns a majority of The Cavalier as well

The Jefferson Hotel in Richmond is also sort of owned by a Hokie. Riverstone Group LLC, which was run by Bill Goodwin before he retired, owns The Jefferson Hotel.

I went to Cox and grew up in Great Neck/Chick's Beach. I went to school with a lot of them lol

I'm here for the memes, I just stay for the football.

And as previous comments have alluded to, its definitely not everyone in the area. I want to say it's almost a 50/50 split. I used to lifeguard at the Princess Anne Country Club (the Aquatic Director was my chemistry teacher and swim coach at Lake Taylor high in Norfolk, which was my "in"), and you could absolutely tell who made their money and who inherited their money by how they carried themselves and interacted with the staff.

"The Big Ten is always using excuses to cancel games with us. First Wisconsin. Then Wisconsin. After that, Wisconsin. The subsequent cancellation with Wisconsin comes to mind too. Now Penn State. What's next? Wisconsin?" -HorseOnATreadmill

It's funny because WM Jordan remodeled it and I'm pretty sure Lawson is a part owner.

Free Hugh

It almost looks like they photo shopped them into the picture

I am very excited about Coach Jones and assumed the high number of comments in here were in a similar headspace.

Did not expect to learn so much about flying??

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Did not expect to learn so much about flying??

especially this far from peak offseason.

(add if applicable) /s

Meh, I pretty much just fly right past that part of the thread

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I mean, there is a South African fighter jet called the Cheetah. Just saying.

I'm here for the memes, I just stay for the football.

Canards are for air forces that don't want to win.

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I love that he references Beamer.

That's my high school right there! Deep Creek High School class of 2007!!

FIRST DOWN, HOKIES!

1979 for me. Last class out of what is now the middle school.

#Let's Go - Hokies

Yeeesh, I don't know about that graphic. That's a bit cheesy.

thankfully it's from a random fan account and not VT

Yeah, the flag is cringeworthy work. I could do better in MS Paint. Photoshop capabilities let one do better in a matter of seconds. . Assuming the person generating the image is someone trying to do edits for a business, they should do better.

We all know this is the best site for graphics

Ahhh those were some days around here

"That kid you're talking to right there, I think he played his nuts off! And you can quote me on that shit!" -Bud Foster

I know CBP has come in showing a vast amount of relationship skills, but it's interesting to see that he also has proctology skills.

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Dang, that's shoulder deep too.

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Clearly Coach Mines and Coach Jones are active in showing that they are indeed putting VA first. How about the guys who have Richmond & NoVA? Need to see their bonafides on the twitters too!

Quinn has the "this guy right here" finger point down to an exact science.

"Exit light..."

I somehow failed to notice the finger point, but you're right - he really does have that down. Great seeing him on the trail and more so also him using the Twitter for engagement.

I looked at Rudolph's Twitter and it doesn't look like he really uses that. It's nice seeing the stuff, but if guys build the relationships and get recruits, I won't worry about how much/little they are using social media.

As long as he is not asking them to pull his finger.....

"We were still ass, but, you know we weren't that bad" - Tobi Lawal

He would sell you down the river real fast if you ever passed gas in an elevator...

"Nooooooooooo!"
~What happened?
"James Franklin to Virginia Tech...."
~Fuck me......*sigh*
"Oh my God.... They're gonna take all our recruits... like WTF bro...."
~*squints eyes in disbelief*

Thanks for compiling. I was just going to say Shawn Quinn has been quite active and quite busy hitting up various NoVA schools. I really like seeing that the staff isn't just talking, they're actually canvasing the state trying to fix what might've been broken.

Also, Melt burgers are amazing.

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Seconded on that!

Marve looks like he could be a high school student.

You will see this game, this upset and this sign next on ESPN Sportscenter. Virginia Tech 31 Miami 7

His decision was made after a phone call with longtime Virginia Tech assistant coach Bud Foster. All Foster told him was, "We win. They don't."

Shawn Quinn has hit most of, if not all, schools in Loudoun (+ a few others) and has been tweeting it out. I think Prioleau may be the other coach up there with him at the moment.

Some of these schools put out talent pretty regularly (Stone Bridge, Broad Run come to mind) and some not as much, but it is pretty refreshing to see that when they said they were going to hit every school they really meant it.

it is pretty refreshing to see that when they said they were going to hit every school they really meant it.

This, absolutely. It's going to be way easier to recruit that occasional P5 prospect at the school if you have existing relationships.

But more so than that, I think there's real value in VA HS coaches talking football regularly with P5 coaches. If they can pick up things here & there to help their kids develop better, that only deepens the potential talent pool.

Influencing the next generation of Hokies! If all goes well, within the five year timer we all have to hopefully see some real results out of Tech (I pray sooner than that), the Hokies would have almost have created a mini "minor league" aspect to these relationships with High Schools in Virginia. I'm sure high school coaches will catch on to the type of player fitting into CBPs system and hopefully, keep an eye out for those qualities within their programs.

Yeah, I was about to say the same thing, having grown up in LC.

LC has exploded over the past 2 decades and there's been like close to 10 new high schools built since 2010.

Definitely impressive that all of these coaches are visiting all of these schools -- it's a lot of work aligning schedules and driving around!

Since this is my first foray into following coaches on Twitter, I was just wondering if any of the previous coaching staff had this much Twitter engagement with HS coaches, or if this all as refreshing and new as it seems? I mean coach Jones is absolutely rocking the social media and as far as I can tell is the best at it on staff, but some of the others do less or retweet some of his stuff. I think Mines is less prolific but still has quality stuff - I mean saying "paying homage" to Tapp, Hall, and Anderson is pretty freaking cool - especially since he went to UVA.

So yeah - basically trying to figure out how much better this is than what was coming out of the previous coaches since I didn't pay attention before. Love to get y'all's insights!

It is night and day different, this staff is wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy more active on twitters

^ seconded

It's not even comparable. They've had more engagement in two weeks on Twitter than the prior staff had in the last 6+ years.

I love that there seems to be as much emphasis on recruiting the HS coaches as there is on recruiting the players, because that will help in the future re recruiting the players. It's all about the presence and our coaches seem to be working hard to establish that.

One recruit might affect one or two others. (Or three if their name is Fuller)

One coach can affect dozens

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Shawn Quinn has been hitting Twitter really hard as well.

In one of Pry's press conferences, he mentioned that Shawn's nickname is "Bulldog." Something about him just being a relentless personality, and that's certainly coming through on social media. Hopefully it translates to real results on the recruiting trail!

I think this is awesome.

  1. They were exploring campus.
  2. They posted about something they liked about it
  3. They tied it in to a relationship with another coach who went to Tech.

A couple non-football, good life ones from Coach Jones.

I've been seeing #Ap2w in Coach Jones' tweets a lot, so I'll bite: what does that mean?

"Yes I am going to have favorites. My favorites are high production and low maintenance players, coaches, and staff." - JMFF

Always play to win. I think he has a book out with that title

Is that like always trying to score on offense? Does that mean we are really going to try doing that now?

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

Don't need to score on offense if you score on defense every time the opponent has the ball.

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Loving this stuff from coach Jones!