Dabo just had his own "Jason from Arlington" moment last night. Given the relative trend the last couple years with Clemson and comparing it to our own timeline with Beamer this felt pretty similar, just that Dabo went a lot more aggressive in his response.
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as always, comparisons to other coaches in similar situations reveal Frank to be the saint that he always has been...
Dabo says he's accountable for the losses then gets upset about fans asking him questions about the losses. If you don't want that to happen, don't host a call-in radio show, D-boy.
Man I hope this downward spiral continues. Its been wonderful to watch, and knowing they come to Lane next year, I'd love to have an opportunity to pile on as well
Told my buddies before the season - and no I'm not pretending to be Jimmy the greek here or some guru- we were just talking shit, and I told them that Clemson "looked" different to me. Like they didn't have the dudes they have ad before - especially at WR and RB. Their defense is still pretty stout and "looks" the part, but they didn't look the same to me.
Agree...they have 4* guys (or high 3*) at pretty much every offensive skill position, but there's nobody that really scares you.
Shipley and Mafah are both fine as RB, but I would take Tuten over either of them.
At WR, Collins looks the part but his production has been meh. No one else is a gamebreaker. The NC State kid Concepcion was more explosive than anyone on the Clemson roster.
The TE #9 looks like a dude and a difficult matchup but that's about it.
The question is what is the root of the problem? Poor evaluations...or bad development? The fanbase seems to think that the RB and WR coaches need to be replaced, but they are on their 3rd O.C. in as many years and the results haven't changed much. Dabo seems largely intent on having "his guys" on Staff and not sure new faces are going to change the process much.
And I'm not sure that Dabo's ego can handle making wholesale changes that are probably needed.
They still have too much talent on paper to be as bad as they are on offense. I think they lost their elite edge on defense, but are still very good on defense.
They finally had recruiting misses. They have recruited plenty of 4 and 5* receivers over the last few cycles, but they weren't dudes like Mike Williams, Higgins, Ross, etc. They have recruited 4 and 5* backs over the last few cycles but they aren' dawgs like Etienne. They have **better** athletes at LB, but they don't have the edge that the less talented LB's had during their run. Their DL still looks incredible on paper, but they just aren't those mean ass NFL dudes like Big Dex, Christian Wilkins, Clelin Ferrell, etc. They don't have corners like AJ Terrell and Trayvon Mullen anymore, though I think Wiggins is a good player. Klubnik was a 5*, DJ was a 5*, and their QB behind them was a high 4* but he's not ready to push Klubnik apparently.
Klubnik looks like a total JAG to me. Meh. And I think there skill position guys are nearly what they were.
You're right, but it isn't because they aren't landing highly rated guys, they just aren't as good as the old ones. They had a lot of major "hits" in recruiting, both with higher rated guys and 3*'s who turned out to be high level contributors. They are still 5th on the 247 team talent composite with seven 5* players, and forty-nine 4* players on the roster.
he 2019 recruiting cycle onward has been full of 5* and 4* guys who weren't as good as their rankings, for the most part, after having a way above average hit rate on the classes leading up to and during their playoff run. They didn't have a lot of misses in the past, but they finally are seeing the regression to the mean.
WR recruits Collins, Ngata, Frank Ladson, Stellato, Antonio Williams (who is pretty good), Adam Randall, etc. were all highly rated guys who weren't as good as their recruiting rankings.
That QB class Klubnik was in was very weak. I never thought he was going to be great for them.
Good point. all of their 4 and 5 stars hit for a while. That rarely happens
I am wondering - are they hitting at a lower rate than before, or are they hitting at the same rate BUT they're not 'correcting' their misses in the transfer portal like every other team does?
My guess is more the former, but curious if you have a feel?
I think they are hitting at a considerably lower rate. I actually went through a bunch of their classes awhile back and did the "major hit," "contributor," "bust/non-contributor" count on a bunch of their classes during the good years, and how the "major hits" dropped and the "busts" rose from 2019 class onward. I can't remember if I did this on reddit or on TKP, but I could try to dig for it.
edit: A way to think about it if I can't find the tables I made on this: It doesn't take that many individual "Major hits" to turn into "busts/non-contributors" to have a pretty major impact on the situation they are in. If you have 2 fewer major hits and 2 more non-contributors each cycle over a four cycle sequence, that's ~8 less "dudes" on your team, and ~8 more "not even relied on for depth" players. If you split it evenly on both sides, that's 4 less dudes in your best 11 on either side of the ball. If they were using the transfer portal, like you've suggested, they could probably mitigate that. During their best run though they were getting crazy depth, and starters sometimes, from their 3* reaches and development projects, and more of their big recruits were straight up, play-making in big moments, "dudes".
It was particularly crazy how high their hit rate was on some of the smaller classes they took.
The transfer portal is still important in this situation because it theoretically would offer them a way to fix their misses, like receiver, where they've "missed" on almost every prospect regardless of rating for years now, but they haven't done so.
I have a hypothesis that the HS evaluations of the 2021 and 2022 class are overall not good due to COVID. Thus, a lot of good talent went to the non-bluebloods and even the G5 and FCS levels. Further, because of the extra COVID year, I think a lot of fringe NFL-level talent from the 2019 and 2020 classes has become high collegiate-level talent, and that talent has further benefitted teams that utilized the transfer portal well.
In sum, teams that use the portal well are playing at a high level because they were able to correct for missed evaluations due to COVID and are further able to benefit from high collegiate-level talent that wouldn't be available but for the extra COVID year.
Therefore, Clemson's elite 2021 and 2022 classes are actually not as elite and they have fallen behind by not getting talent available via the portal.
Everybody under 40 - Jimmy the who?
I mean I don't disagree with Dabo but like you're the HC you're not supposed to respond like this always take the PR approach. Also probably don't go on call in radio shows and take questions from fans it's never going to end great.
"Tyler you're right, expectations were high this year so far we've fallen a bit short, that's on me. We'll be back and appreciate your support"
This was my reaction as well. That emotional jab back at the caller is going to undo a lot of goodwill that has been built up. This to me is looking like a major crack in the program's stability.
I listened to the call and I agree 100% with Dabo. 100%. That kid compared him to Tommy Bowden, started rambling on about bible verses and how they were both "men of faith" and he kept fucking saying it to Dabo, and then dropped the "Why are you making 11.5 million dollars to coach a 4-4 team"? The fuck? You mad, kid? He wants Dabo Swinney fired - even though he is a man of faith yall- because the team is 4-4. Nevermind that Dabo won 11 games and a conference championship 10 months ago... nah- he's trash, makes too much money, he's just like Tommy Bowden. Fuck that kid. Dabo's rings speak for themselves. He won 2 rings in the Saban era, and had 12 straight 10 win seasons. He's a hall of fame coach. If he gets fired for 4-4, everyone should be fired at every job then. And yes, I know Dabo could have simply said "thanks for the call" hung up on the kid and made a joke about passionate fans, yes he could have not engaged. But the kid came at him a certain way. Good for Dabo.
I dunno, man. I mean sure he has the past successes, but he definitely put a faith based target on his own chest when, in December last year he scoffed at the world of NIL when he mocked the whole thing by saying he built Clemson in the Name Image and Likeness of God. So yeah, he doesn't get to do that and then get bent out of shape when his program almost immediately blows up because of incompetence in the portal driven strongly by misuse of NIL programs.
Oh I get that and its hard to sympathize with a guy making 11 mil and running every aspect of the program. I hear what you are saying- they haven't shied away from the god squad thing for sure. But the fact is that Clemson will be in a bowl this year, and if that's the bottom after an unparalleled run of success, Clemson fans need to chill. They didn't lose to USC upstate or get blown out at home by a down Duke program. They didn't bottom out like we did. They will win 6 or 7 this year. And they have a bunch of 4 and 5 stars on that roster. If I had to guess- Dabo is also competitive enough to start hitting the portal too. Aggressively.
Likely, but it's not going to be an easy gimme with ND, GT, UNC, and @USC. The schadenfreude if Clemson only goes 1-3 in the last 4 would make for some great spectating.
Oh, them pulling a Miami and playing out the string is entirely possible, yes. I think Sugar Shane stinks and they will beat GT. UNC could also be playing out the string and Clemson could win that game 59-58
This is the question... he's obsessed with culture and OKGs... we're about to find out how stubborn he is.
So it's God's plan to have opponents butts digitally penetrated?
Um yeah. Anything to do with the under carriage is encouraged.
At least let them see it coming.
Totally agree. Fuck that kid. If someone wins 2 Nattys at VT, I will never utter a bad word about their coaching decisions or salary for as long as they want to stay.
Honestly hoping that being in a conference with Stanford- who wins a natty every year in something - will rub off on us. Yes, it really bothers me that we have no nattys in anything ever.
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Dabo should've just said that he's paid $11.5 mil to put up with fans like him.
Which is kind of true, and it's why I don't want to hear Dabo bitch. This is the gig - the crazy, irrational, fanatics are the reason that anyone is willing to pay you 8 figures to be a glorified gym teacher. If people didn't care, he wouldn't get this money.
I've been calling this for a few years...the chinks in the armor have been ever so slightly revealing themselves even going back to golden QB/natty title runs...it will come crashing down on Dabo... everything in life is cyclical and Clemsoning is very much cued up!
Norvel lost for a month straight last year, then he hit the portal. He is going to be in the playoff. No reason why Dabo can't do the same. IF- yes its a IF- he keeps getting dudes or gets dudes again, they will be one of the top ACC programs. It's about the players. And in this conference, nobody else but FSU can be trusted a full season.
The big if is if he's willing to go to the portal he's been pretty open about being anti-portal which IMO is a big reason he's struggling.
According to On3 they've taken 3 total transfers since 2020 and none of them have played from what I can tell. Sure they had a full roster but if you're a playoff caliber team and miss the playoffs twice you might want to look at your personnel and have some conversations.
I'll never forget sitting surrounded by obnoxious Clemson fans at the 2011 ACCCG. I hope their program crashes and burns hard for those fan's sake.
I actually think Dabo has done great things and if we even sniff a comparison in a few years to be qualified in their ranks, we will all be happy Hokies.
Yea, that's the thing. Will Dabo essentially eat some humble pie and stop yelling at clouds and embrace the current NCAA landscape? Or will he be stubborn as a mule and continue doing it the way Clemson did it for the past decade? Idk, but they are only a few NIL/portal signings from being a top team along with FSU in the ACC, so this offseason will be interesting.
Apparently they have at least endorsed NIL.
I mean NIL is just the legal way to have bag men and Clemson has done that for years. So I'm not sure what the issue is.
The issue is that everyone else is doing it now and that deflates their competitive advantage. And he/they don't like it.
Dabo annoys me as much as the next guy, but let's be real, we'd give our left eye to have had him at the helm winning nattys instead of at Klempson.
They're struggling so of course fans are going to go on his radio show and poke the bear lol imagine if Fu had had a radio show like that, yikes. That would have been soundbite city.
They're losing, fans are mad (whether justified or not) and Dabo is right about a whiny ass kid needing to shut his mouth after their success during the Saban era.
That's out of whack.
I am actually a little surprised it took this long for this statement to show up in this thread.
I agree that Dabo has a right to question the fan base, but dont do it publicly, and dont do it like that. As the HC he's got to take the higher ground instead of lashing out at a fan.
It's easy to sit back and say "I'd do it this way" when we're not the ones getting lambasted in local and national media after being one of the 2-3 best teams in the nation for 10+ years. And then to listen to some college brat whine more about it 🤷🏽♂️
EDIT: just listened to the clip, it's really not "unprofessional" as some are saying. He backs his comments up with facts regarding the success. Taken out of context and reading it on paper it sounds snarky, but he comes across as "yeah, that's your opinion and you're entitled to it, but here's the facts"
Like many of us have said, he's not wrong its just a horrible forum to do that and the rant was far too long and went off the rails. From a PR perspective when you're captain of the struggling ship this is not a good look and a horrible forum to address criticism. Should be more than prepared to answer questions like that if you're having a bad season and going to go on a live call-in radio show.
The sound of that water bottle crumpling would be overwhelming
You can run, you can hide, but the call-in of JASONinARLINGTON is inevitable
Did I.... Miss something?
Just wow... that clip.
Dabo is just setting himself up to move two States west and take over in Tuscaloosa in a few years when El Diablo eventually retires.
That might be what he thinks he wants, but if he thinks the appreciation is lacking in SC...wait til he loses to Auburn once or twice.
Plus, if Clemson continues on a path of mediocrity, Bama may aim higher than Dabo.
I think it's more likely that he heads to a lower P5 (Miss St., Purdue or similar) where he negotiates for more control-maybe being named Associate A.D.
TX A&M would also be possible landing spot.
Not a Dabo guy or Clemson guy, but there is no "higher" out there. Kirby Smart? That's the list. Dabo has 2 natty's - who are you going to aim higher for? Urban Meyer? Andy Reid? Bellichick?
2-3 years from now things could look a lot different... Dan Lanning might look real enticing to Alabama in 2-3 years if he keeps winning 10+ games at Oregon and recruiting well... If he can recruit well at Oregon, you can bet your ass he can do it at Alabama.
That's just one example, and right now he's not proven enough, but it's an example of something that could change over the course of 2-4 years. Lanning also worked under Saban and Kirby.
Fair assessment sure, but a bird in hand is better than two in a bush. Winning a national championship in football is so grueling and difficult to do-I'd rather hire the guy that has actually done that. He knows what it takes to win the meat grinder that is the playoff against the very best. Lanning might do that, but until he does, I'd take Dabo. I don't think the next tier is comparable, really. Sark, Day, Franklin, Fickle, Cristobal, etc. It's not a long list for sure.
Winning a national title hasn't helped Texas A&M and Jimbo.
There is no way Cristobal is in the 2nd tier after Dabo, Smart, Brown, Fisher, and Swinney.
Yeah, Cristobal's refusal to use the victory formation multiple times automatically disqualifies him from being in tier 2.
Agree...theoretically if Saban calls it quits 2 years from now names like Sark, Lanning, Fickell all could be above Dabo.
This is all assuming that Dabo doesn't revive Clemson and the others continue to have success.
I'm not saying that Dabo wouldn't be on the list at all or even that he wouldn't work out but if he's still presiding over a middle-of-the pack ACC team and trying to shame his fanbase in the media, it may be a tough sell to a fan and booster base that doesn't have a history of settling.
Particularly in light that the guys listed above have proven adept at navigating the post-NIL and TP landscape while Dabo has not.
Thinking about this more, Alabama is going to be a premier destination that will attract just about anyone. However, there next coach will probably have to be the following:
Right now if Saban retires at 75 (three years) the coaches that look like contenders are: Day, Smart, Riley, and Swinney (older)
Freeman, Napier, Lanning, Fickle and DeBoer could all get there in the next three years.
Day and Smart would be tough to pull away. Bama won't want Riley.
If you lower winning percentage and remove conference champ then Norvell, Elko, Drinkwitz, and Venables all bring some intrigue and Kiffin is in this group but I don't know if that would happen.
After that, some one is coming out of nowhere that aces the interview Mike Tomlin style.
It'll be someone that has had SEC ties or still is in the SEC
Well, that IS the only conference, right?
Once we're in it - yes
Nicely played.
Very solid logic. I could see them going out of the box and giving a Bama man like DeMeco Ryans a shot too. If Smart is still at UGA and winning big time in 3 years, they will pay him whatever he wants to stay. I think Sark would get a chance before Kiffin.
Who are four guys that wouldn't leave their current gigs to go to Alabama and be the guy that follows Saban.
Sorry, I thought that but didn't write that, 100% agree with the exception of Dabo. UGA will pay, OSU will pay, USC will fire Riley and Bama won't want him.
Dabo breaks the age limit, just barely, but two championships speak loud and he might be wearing out his welcome at Clemson.
Kirby is a UGA alum and UGA has almost as much money as Bama. UGA fans will have a lot more patience with any slipups than Bama will too.
Bama ain't calling if he doesn't turn this situation around at Clemson.
We really need to get the real Jason in Arlington's take on this. It's his time in the spotlight, right now.
Dabo said the A-word?!?! That's not something that a good ole boy made in gods NIL says lmaoo
He- and every coach- drops the F bomb regularly during a game on the sidelines.
Not according to every Clemson person (and 2 former players) I know.
I heard him on a hot mic against FSU tell the ref "Do your fucking job"- plain as day.
You can't tell me Liberty's coaches do that, that's a religious school! No way they use foul language! 😏
Please don't confuse the many decent and caring people at LU with some of the rascals that were hired by the former president to run the athletics department. Housecleaning takes time, and college athletics programs all have a dark side, no matter the university. The Frank Beamers of the world are rare birds.
To the best of my knowledge, I've never known anyone really well who went to Liberty. But I've run into several of them on hiking trails in the area and I've never found them to be anything but friendly and polite. People really should learn to distinguish between the vast majority of people and the few bleeps.
Michael Vick versus Marcus Vick
I know a lot of very fine people who went to or work for Liberty. While a lot of them have issues with the former leadership (Jerry Jr), they definitely give the school the benefit of the doubt on every issue. I was talking to one former professor who I generally respect the other day and I hit all the high notes (pool boys, Trump groveling, hiring an AD who covered for rape, etc) and was shocked at how far he bent over to not necessarily excuse, but definitely provide reasons for it all that left everyone in the best light possible. "well of course Jerry Jr is going to have issues, look at the limelight he grew up in. He's a very flawed person and married an even more flawed woman..." "I know Ian McCaw personally and really can't believe he'd have any involvement with what Art Briles did at Baylor." Really? The level of cognitive dissonance is real. They are so conditioned that "the world" will attack them for their faith that they can't separate that faith from a craptastic institution that is hijacking it.
/rant
cults are absolutely terrifying. LU is essentially a cult. And the heartbreaking thing about cults is that they often lure in people who are otherwise really great people generally. They're just fooled. People get conditioned to a set of beliefs and then they completely shut down whenever anyone challenges those beliefs. And who can blame them. When someone is challenging a belief that is the basis for your entire known existence it would be pretty shocking and alienating to not resist that challenge.
What I find interesting is that in every major "religious" cult ever documented, they also "happen" to be pedophiles. All of them. The heavenly father apparently wants the cult leader to marry and rape children- in EVERY cult. It's quite the coincidence. It's disgusting.
Liberty University is not a "cult". Please stop with the ridiculous hyperbole. It's a Baptist University that operates in compliance with the legal structures established by the State of Virginia and the United States Department of Education, just like our beloved VT. Yes, I have family that have attended both, and I generally keep my mouth shut when LU bashing, some of it deserved, happens here. LU never should have hired McCaw or Freeze and I was disappointed by both events. The former president was and is a morally reprehensible individual who was properly fired when his shenanigans were discovered.
To your point about being a cult, the majority of Liberty's students identify as Christian Evangelicals which comprises roughly 25 percent of the U.S. population. The term "cult" is extremely loaded with negative and harmful connotations and should not be used in flippant or ignorant speech. If you have a beef with Christianity in general or with LU in particular, that's your business and should stay as such. Please don't accuse over 100,000 mostly good-hearted and generous students, faculty and staff of being a "cult" simply because you disagree with their beliefs. Feel free to criticize their failures, I frequently do also.
Sorry Joe for going way out of bounds here. Feel free to hammer me any way you feel appropriate, it's your website.
Agreed, this is not the forum for discussing religion.
Agree. Cult is too strong of a word. However, it is definitely an institution that has elevated itself to be more important than its stated mission. So when members of the community/administration act contrary to the mission, it is swept under the rug to protect the institution from blowback, with predictable results. They are not alone in this as we've seen examples of it across the political, religious, and social spectrums and we don't call all culprits "cults."
Also, I have it on good authority (from someone who worked in the accreditation department), that the 100,000 is wildly overblown. Basically, they are allowed to count anyone who has ever taken any online course as an active student pursuing a degree. So, you took a college math course from LU online back in 2004? You are part of that 100,000 number. On the one hand, sure, anyone could be working slowly towards a degree. On the other hand, they definitely milk that number to lend them some prestige, so it seems a little disingenuous.
okay, clearly I struck a nerve here. I'm sorry that I grouped all of LU into my cult tirade. I freely admit that is ignorant and I apologize for offending.
I think this part is debatable, given the ongoing investigation and the early report that has been regarded by some as the most damning report of it's kind - specifically that LU has done a poor job of complying with the Department of Education. As we likely don't know the full picture, there's probably not much more to be said here.
These two quotes in particular lead me to believe that you interpret my assertion as "Christianity is a cult". That is NOT what I said or am saying. I allude to systems of belief and I can definitely understand how people would immediately assume that I'm referring specifically to religion (it's not a big leap, admittedly). I am not. Cults (religious and otherwise) operate on systems of belief. That belief can be anything. I'm speaking generally here, not accusing any specific religion of being a cult.
Again, I was definitely wrong to group all of LU into a "cult" and for that I do apologize. I brought it up because the defense and rationalizing of "bad actors" within the organization by others within the same organization (I'm referring to the anecdote from hokie07ME) came across as cult-ish. Cults do exist. I also believe they can exist in pockets within larger organizations. I'm sure there are various types of cults in their own little pockets at just about every major university (VT included). When you have an organization as large as a university that brings all types of characters and personalities together, it's a little bit inevitable. In any event, I share a lot of beliefs with people at LU - this doesn't have anything to do with me disagreeing with their beliefs. And I also acknowledge that there are plenty of really "good-hearted" folks who can get caught up in weird organizations. Just because a person is part of a cult, doesn't make them a bad person. Cults often rely on good people to be successful, even if they might have bad actors at the top. And that is kind of my point. Cults are terrifying - precisely because you can have a couple of bad apples influencing a lot of really good people and holding power over them without them really knowing or understanding how much power those at the top truly have.
My only issue with Liberty is that they have been a full FBS school for a grand total of 4 years and their program is equal to VTs at the moment. In the past 2 seasons they have beaten us, and lost a close game to us. VT has been playing at the top level of college football for 150 years. THAT is my issue with Liberty.
I think that should be more of an issue with our program and the prior leadership team of our program than anything related to Liberty (or ODU or any other lousy team that has beaten us recently). It's our team's/coaches/administration/whatever that we lose to a lot of bad teams. Not the bad or new on the block teams.
Exactly, it's not Liberty's fault we lost to them, that's on us. If we're pounding them by 40 points every year, the problem goes away.
There's no program and fanbase I enjoy seeing suffer more than Clemson. None. That being said, I don't trust this downfall until they go 3 straight years without an ACC Championship.
I can list 10 programs very easily I want to see fail more than Clemson lol
ND, PSU, UNC, UGA, UF, anOSU, OU, UT, other UT, UVA ... 10!
Edit: Liberty! 11!
You forgot UM(ich) and UM(iami).
Liberty
Top 3. All of the top 3. Every. Single. Spot.
Liberty
Liberty
Biberty
Uva
Osu
Um
Nd
Wvu
Clemson
Fsu
Biberty
Biberty
Biberty
West VA
West VA
Miami
Noter dum
Murland
Loluva
BC/GT/UNC
Swap out UF for WVU here and *chefs kiss*
How can LOLuva fall when they are already deep in a hole.
Voluntary relegation by the hoos would be acceptable to me.
I like them, just as they are.
Yup. If loluva started talking about going down a division...
Ah yeah as someone said above Michigan, swap them out for anOSU. My reasoning is they already live in Ohio, let them have a little joy. I'm fine with them enjoying their nuts to watch Michigan burn.
I have Clemson at #9 currently. My top 2 hated are always the same. After that the order varies somewhat depending upon the year. And as I was doing this it became clear that my hatred for some teams is due primarily by my exposure to their fan base.
UVA
Miami
UNC
WVU
Penn State
Pitt
FSU
Maryland
Clemson
(🤷🏻 Notre Dame, Ohio State, Tennessee)
Okay since we're doing this (and I agree with you that my top couple are always the same and the rest can fluctuate some):
loluva
Miami
OSU
ND
PedoSt
Florida
Uncheat
BoiseSt
UMD
Pitt
My top 10:
WVU
WVU
WVU
WVU
WVU
LOLUVA
LOLUVA
LOLUVA
LOLUVA
Miami
This is a man who understand the unique awfulness of that fanbase. Leg.
Only people who lived in Clemson, SC can truly understand. I don't care if any other team (except Liberty) is good, even great, as long as we can beat them. I would love to face an undefeated Miami, GT, UVA, Penn State, WVU, etc as an undefeated VT team then kick their teeth in. But I want Clemson to be bad.
So bad that SEC teams schedule them the week before championship weekend.
I just listened to the 5 minute clip posted above... wow...
Dabo may be correct, partly, on substance, but damn.... That is not remotely professional. It was arrogant, emotional and childish. I know he likely reads his Bible a lot, but maybe he needs to dive into the Stoics for a while so he can figure out how to handle his shit in public.
Yea I agree. I believe Tyler must've struck a nerve with wuttle Dabo. He needs to learn to keep his emotions in check and frame his responses a little better.
My favorite part of the Clemson story is that the QB that Dabo ran off is sitting at 6-2 and ranked 16
HH vibes engage!
Shutdown Fullcast had a tremendous discussion on Dabo this week.
Great listen! Thanks for the rec.
Is this your first time listening to the Fullcast?
Yes I always saw tweets by Spencer Hall and got a good laugh out of them but was oblivious to the pod. Definitely gonna listen more often.