I don't really think a properly proportioned tonic/lime drink really has that much bitterness. And most of the tonics I'm able to get have enough sugars to offset some of that.
The other thing is I drink white rum and tonic, not gin. The rum probably takes some of the bitterness off as well. I'm always pretty heavy handed on the lime side.
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The quinine in proper tonic water is uniquely and specifically bitter. The lime is to mask it somewhat but also to specifically make a pleasant bitter/sour that matches nicely with the sharp herbal flavors of a strongly juniper flavored gin.
I get ya though, modern tastes don't favor this flavor combination much. Most of the time when you find it, it has something else which limits the bitterness such as added sweetness or fats (cream) added to classic Italian desserts that feature coffee/espresso or bitter chocolate and citrus such as orange or lime desserts.
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Take one of the funky botanical gins (Uncle Vals) and a nice deep spicy vermouth alternative (Weller's Rye), and a splash of bitters (Habanero shrub) and you have a very nice martini for not hating on any more......
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Troy Taylor thinks Palo Alto is on the Atlantic coastline.
Troy Taylor wakes up at sunrise every morning and gets in his tractor that he's named "The Traylor" and plows the grounds of Stanford because he was told it was "The Farm."
Troy Taylor thinks the San Francisco bay seasoning is better than Old Bay.
Troy Taylor, a Cal Berkeley alum, thought the idea of page-rank algorithm was dumb.
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The Sheffield Wednesday scene in Ted Lasso was so funny. You could tell they were trying to do their own Who's on First? and while not quite the same, was still very funny.
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Troy Taylor is the douchebag who, although he and his son committed in April, calls you today, on the eve of an overnight two-day golf outing that you run with 16 guys with 5 nine hole handicapped matches of different formats mixing up players each 9, and cancells himself and his son because he thought the outing was next week, and he cant take off work now. You've already made all the pairings and handicapped scorecards, and now one team is short 2 guys, and you have to re-do all the fucking matchups and handicaps last minute and somehow try to still make it work. What a fucking douchebag.
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It was verrrrry specific. I made it work, although it was a pain the ass. Got some good advice from Nerf, and got 2 absolutely gorgeous days at the Delaware water gap in Shawnee PA.
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Man, it's gonna take me a while to get used to the "New ACC"
I think he's the punter for the Chicago Bears.
Troy Taylor also didn't find my Troy Taylor vs Tory Taylor joke funny. :.(
Troy Taylor thinks a fucking tree is a great mascot.
He thinks you'll root for them.
Troy Taylor is a CPU generated name for a head coach in NCAA Football 2006.
Troy Taylor played QB for the New York Jets. lmfao.
Troy Taylor wants more POP from Pop Watson once the game gets out of hand!
Troy Taylor only drinks Cascadian Dark Ales (Black IPAs) and if none are available he orders a rail vodka and diet.
Are black IPAs a bad thing now?
They are for the purposes of the "Hatin' On" thread!!
Not sure they were ever good...but ymmv.

Troy Taylor made up the name Black IPA to ride the wave of IPA popularity. He also thought sour ipa's were a good idea.
Troy Taylor was the guy that decided we needed to call everything an IPA.
Sour IPAs are fantastic and I will fight you. Crooked Run Fermentation in Leesburg makes excellent sours.
Bitter and sour shouldn't go together. Might be a small hill, but I'll die on it.
Start with London dry gin.
Add lime and tonic water. Bitter and sour.
Perfect gin and tonic.
Bitter and sour.
I don't really think a properly proportioned tonic/lime drink really has that much bitterness. And most of the tonics I'm able to get have enough sugars to offset some of that.
The other thing is I drink white rum and tonic, not gin. The rum probably takes some of the bitterness off as well. I'm always pretty heavy handed on the lime side.
The quinine in proper tonic water is uniquely and specifically bitter. The lime is to mask it somewhat but also to specifically make a pleasant bitter/sour that matches nicely with the sharp herbal flavors of a strongly juniper flavored gin.
I get ya though, modern tastes don't favor this flavor combination much. Most of the time when you find it, it has something else which limits the bitterness such as added sweetness or fats (cream) added to classic Italian desserts that feature coffee/espresso or bitter chocolate and citrus such as orange or lime desserts.
Take one of the funky botanical gins (Uncle Vals) and a nice deep spicy vermouth alternative (Weller's Rye), and a splash of bitters (Habanero shrub) and you have a very nice martini for not hating on any more......
I support we drop the Hatin' On thread for a Drinkin' On thread.
I'm down for a signature "Hatin' on" cocktail.
2oz bourbon
0.5 oz bourbon
1 oz bourbon
0.25 juice from the inside of a bourbon barrel
Three dashes bourbon
Garnish with bourbon.
Can be served over one big ice cube or neat
just more than a single airplane bottle....
Call it the Hatin' 18 Boilermaker.
Was gonna go with the Hokie Hokie Highball
Tech Tech VP-Eyeball!
I'll be right there on that hill with you
Troy Taylor plays Atari: E.T. the extraterrestrial bc he wants to talk gaming to the cool recruits.
This made me laugh out loud. Like really loud. On a few different levels.
Same. I am also old.
Troy Taylor thinks the SEC and Big10 should actually get 10 spots in the CFP instead of only 8.
Troy Taylor thinks he is the real TT instead of our boy Tyrod.
Kick rocks Troy! You're a diet TT at best!
Troy isn't even the first Coach Taylor that comes to mind.
Troy Taylor believes using NIL as a recruiting tool is unethical.
"Troy Taylor" anagrams to "Royalty Rot", and I have no further comment about that.
I hate that Troy Taylor will somehow turn into Bear Bryant at 3:30 PM EST on Saturday.
I wish Pry would get in on a little of that in some of these close games.
Troy Taylor is the Dollar General version of Tim "The Tool Man" Taylor.
His friends call him "The Tool Man" but not for the same reason.
Troy Taylor would like to talk to you about whole life annuities.
And after that, he wants to discuss extending your car warranty.
Troy Taylor thinks the movie "Troy" was about him and his love of a horse.
Troy Taylor thinks the definition of "indisputable" is debatable
Troy Taylor constantly uses the phrase "double or nothing".
He has no idea what it means.
Troy Taylor thinks dcwilson40 likes duplicate jersey numbers.
And that players should have unlimited eligibility!
Troy Taylor insists he's related to Taylor Swift.
He even has a cute nickname for his fans- Troylets.
You can read all about it in his Stanford Tree-themed weekly mailer- the "Troylet Paper".
4 times I've skimmed the title of this post as Hatin on Tyrod Taylor
So yeah Troy Taylor sucks.
"Never hate on Tysean Taylor, Herbie" Uncle Brent
Troy Taylor thinks Palo Alto is on the Atlantic coastline.
Troy Taylor wakes up at sunrise every morning and gets in his tractor that he's named "The Traylor" and plows the grounds of Stanford because he was told it was "The Farm."
Troy Taylor thinks the San Francisco bay seasoning is better than Old Bay.
Troy Taylor, a Cal Berkeley alum, thought the idea of page-rank algorithm was dumb.
I don' think about Troy Taylor at all.
Troy Taylor thinks the Red Eye is the best way to fly east.
Troy Taylor thinks adding Stanford and Cal to the ACC makes sense.
This is the only way I fly east. So, I agree. It's the only way to not lose an entire day to flying.
Troy Taylor says "the Red Eye" and then immediately chuckles and mumbles "butt stuff".
Troy Taylor only allows elementary school kids 20 minutes of playground time and then blames parents for increased disruptive behavior in classrooms.
Troy Taylor thinks that Stanford is a natural fit in the ACC
Troy Taylor gets mad when people call him Troy Pork Roll
This one tho
Slow clap dot gif
Caught up the Moo Deng sensation, Troy Taylor suggests Stanford change their team name another time to the Pork Patties.
Troy Taylor spent this week preparing to play against a Justin Fuente led offense since he had heard that it was hard to prepare for.
Troy Taylor tells everyone he's Corey's brother so people think he's a badass
Troy Taylor asks the neighborhood kids if they want to check out his "Toy Traylor" and doesn't understand why they run away terrified
Troy Taylor played center back for Sheffield Wednesday in the early 90s and you can't convince me otherwise
The Sheffield Wednesday scene in Ted Lasso was so funny. You could tell they were trying to do their own Who's on First? and while not quite the same, was still very funny.
Troy Taylor thinks west coast teams should be able to play all night games at home but never have to play a nooner on the east coast.
{Tami} "I, agry." {/Taylor}

1oo,
b.street
Troy Taylor thinks the Audi TT was named after him.
Troy Taylor likes TT bars.
Troy Taylor is the douchebag who, although he and his son committed in April, calls you today, on the eve of an overnight two-day golf outing that you run with 16 guys with 5 nine hole handicapped matches of different formats mixing up players each 9, and cancells himself and his son because he thought the outing was next week, and he cant take off work now. You've already made all the pairings and handicapped scorecards, and now one team is short 2 guys, and you have to re-do all the fucking matchups and handicaps last minute and somehow try to still make it work. What a fucking douchebag.
That sounds oddly specific.
It was verrrrry specific. I made it work, although it was a pain the ass. Got some good advice from Nerf, and got 2 absolutely gorgeous days at the Delaware water gap in Shawnee PA.
I was putting like Chevy in that one scene for most of the 2 days! The rest of my game.....not so much, but still a great outing.
Sounds like Troy isn't getting an invite next year
Fuck yeah he isn't. Troy can kiss my ass next year!
Given the outcome of the game, I bet Troy would rather have gone golfing instead.
I'm around, just sayin