"You have to invest in football, because that drives, that is the engine, as we've said over and over again, that is the engine," Williams said. "Without a clear investment in football that is visible, then, whether it's conference realignment or media rights or television deals or sponsorships, if you don't invest in the primary driver of this entire industry, then you're sending a message that you're you don't want to be a part of a national landscape moving forward, and we certainly want to be a part of the national landscape moving forward, and that starts with a proven track record of investing in the primary revenue driver."
UVA brass worried they're going to be left out in the cold in conference realignment.
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I mean they are paying their coordinators $975k this year and they owe them next years money too if they fire them. That's good money for a top 120 offense.
With all that's going on at UVA right now, it's a school in turmoil. Their new coaches have their work cut out for them.
You aren't wrong. Seems like daily I am seeing a new headline on turmoil in Charlottesville.
what turmoil do you speak of? (I'm curious purely for the schadenfreude)
Well for starters they don't have a President. Their medical school is in a "period of transition" to put it nicely with openings for the CEO of U.Va. Health, CEO of the University Medical Center and dean of the Medical School.
Their professors submitted a vote of No Confidence in the Board of Governors for how they handled the removal of the President.
All of the above, plus, well, shall we just say "it's political" on top of it.
Decades of football apathy is going to send them to mid-major status.
Sad, they're a sleeping giants in college football
Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!! Don't wake 'em up.
As we so recently know, there's investing in football, and investing in the right way in football. I have a feeling some very mediocre football players are about to get paid. uva will have the most expensive 4 win team in the country!
I don't want to be that guy, but that could just as easily be VT too especially with Whit & Co. still calling the shots
UVA has sucked in football for- ever. Welch had them at 7 wins a year as a pinnacle. Since its UVA though, they found a hall of fame basketball coach and won a national fucking championship. That's the difference.
Lbh, UVa has a lot of inherent advantages - location (less than two hours away from DC, Richmond & 757), money, academics, beautiful campus, success in non-rev sports, co-eds etc.
The problems have always been - fan apathy, admin hasn't supported football, they've never found the right coach, recruited the wrong type of players and have one of the most insufferable student bodies in P4 sports. If they cannot fix those, we'll be going to the SEC and they're going to the Big East after the ACC dissolves...the argument for UVa was always the "VIrginia Market" but it doesn't matter how big your market is if nobody cares about the product.
"UVa has a lot of inherent advantages - location (less than two hours away from DC, Richmond & 757), money, academics, beautiful campus, success in non-rev sports, co-eds etc."- these are old excuses Hokies make. Charlottesville proper is a shit town on Rt. 29. If their location was so special, they would sign 4 star football players. You won't find a more beautiful campus than Virginia Tech. I've been to many of the "big" ones. You are the first person to claim UVA women as attractive as an advantage, btw. JMU women are much hotter while we are being sexist, etc. It's an excuse. They win in the olympic sports because they want to. We do not. We cobble together "good enough" and pray for miracles. UVA winning championships has little to do with being in central virginia with good academics. They actually want to win. We do not.
Sure we want to win. Just not enough.
If they got the right coach and built the right culture, there are many built-in advantages that would hockey stick the program. That's not true with other schools. I'm not directly comparing UVa to VT, I'm holistically examining what UVa has of offer outside of football.
You saw it when Harbaugh took over Stanford. Stanford was a shit football program before he got there. He laid a proper foundation and it became an attractive program almost overnight. Andrew Luck, Christian McCaffrey etc. were kids who wouldn't have given Stanford a second thought under Walt Harris but immediately considered it because of Harbaugh (and eventually Shaw who was a Harbaugh protege) + all of the great elements Stanford offers from a non-football standpoint despite little to no football track record.
Is UVa Stanford? Fuck no, not even close. But, could the right coach turn the Tony Elliott clown show in a ACC + playoff contending program quickly? Without a doubt in my mind.
AFWIW, I believe the same thing about Virginia Tech. We have inherent advantages as well. Top 50 USNWR school with an elite STEM profile, a campus that looks like Hogwarts, one of the best fanbases in the country (from both a football appreciation and a campus culture standpoint), NFL alumni etc...why is why I think everyone is justified for getting mad at Pry underperforming after spending two years cleaning up the mess Fu left behind. But that's taking us on a tangent.
Now I wait for DC to take a partial quote out of context and make a trollish comment because he literally has nothing better to do with his life.
It was a great post, why include the last sentence to troll another site member?
Eh, slow work day, DC is DC.
If you're not over the line, you're straddlin' it
If I'm straddlin' the line, DC has been Magic Mike'n the line since the Obama administration.
"Now I wait for DC to take a partial quote out of context and make a trollish comment because he literally has nothing better to do with his life." - your life is so complete, you call all of my posts out.
AAAAAAaaaaaaaand Done.
Yeah, gonna have to disagree there. uva campus looks like shit. Trying to get around via automobile around campus is one of the worst experiences I've ever had anywhere and good luck trying to make sense of the roads and parking especially around 'the corner'
Absolute dogshit of a place
I think judging a campus by how automobile friendly it is a poor metric. They're designed for student living / learning and focus on walkability first and foremost.
Nothing beautiful about UVA's campus. It's crowded into a hodge podge town setting that shares too much space with vehicles and non-UVA related traffic. VT's campus puts it to shame, in my experience. I lived nearby for almost 10 years and had to go to the 'ville all too often.
As for the ladies, I'm old enough now that I shouldn't comment, but I'll just say that a friend of mine got so caught up in appreciating the view as he drove through town that he hit a stopped car with his new Saab. He didn't want to deal with insurance consequences from a moving violation, so he wrote the other driver a check and then reported the collision to his insurance company as a deer strike. Of course, that could have happened anywhere, but the scenery was definitely attractive to me as a "ute" and I understood how it could happen.
The appearance of the campus helped me decide on Tech way back in the 90's. The fact that it had a rocking engineering department was also a huge factor.
FWIW, after doing my whirlwind tours of 12 college campuses my daughter is considering, I'd say the most "distracting" scenery (in a positive sense) of any of them was definitely Emory. Of course, that's because it felt like about 60-70% of the students were Asian and that is my bias. Thankfully I did not hit any cars as that would have been really bad to try and explain to my wife and daughter what I was looking at when I should have been looking at the road.
An interesting take, and we share an appreciation for Asian or Amerasian beauty, by the way, but at 75 years old, it seems like most ladies in college are attractive to me, and "dirty old man" doesn't go over well anywhere, right?
I don't see the issue with admiring someone's looks even if they're considerably younger than you. Granted I'm only 38, but the college girls are still appreciated when I visit for games. Acknowledging beauty will never go away, so avoiding the creepy old man perception is easy so long as you aren't acting on anything, making crude comments, or being pervy. Appreciate away!
Unfortunately I have reached the age where I admire the looks and then realize I am old enough to be their father.
Father? or Daddy?
Random, but reminded me of something I heard a while back:
"Forgive me father for I have sinned" and "Sorry daddy, I've been a bad girl" technically mean the same thing, but definitely DO NOT mean the same thing.
Grandfather in my case. But losing vision and hearing can be advantageous in this situation since it helps you avoid the distractions.
I'll never be a grandfather, but I've been a great uncle for a number of years. Hearing has been gone for a while, thanks to absolutely no ear protection while young and stupid. Gunfire, chainsaws, too much loud music, both heard and played, and a special shout out to the lads of Grand Funk Railroad for their stupid loud concert in Germany when I was in the Army in '71 or '72. Hearing aids help, but I rue those unforced errors. As for vision, thank goodness for glasses.
Neither of those things keeps me from appreciation of beauty, however. As for acting pervy, a nice young woman at the local convenience store told me that in her experience, it seemed that age made gentlemen out of most men, and I've tried to remember that before actually leering at a lovely young lady.
I'm getting close to being old enough to be their grandmother... (I mean it's technically already the case if you use 20 years as a 'generation' but not all or even most women are having kids that young nowadays)
Yeah, but back in '90 with Shawn Moore, they looked pretty darned good until he got hurt. So much for their dream season and 3 week old #1 ranking. Nice to know we were the first team to knock them off of their pedestal that year.
Wait, I thought UVA was a shoo-in for the P2 according to SwimSwam??
I guess Indiana wanted a bigger challenge
Do they play any of the top 8 B1G teams this season?
Probably why they needed to increase their SOS by replacing UVa with Kennesaw St and Austin Peay
For fun and I'm bored, Here is their 25 schedule:
ODU- Win
Kennesaw State- Win
Indiana State- Win
Illinois- Loss
Applaud them for finally traveling in October- great job- At Iowa- Loss
At Oregon- Loss
Michigan State- Win
UCLA- Win
At Maryland- Win
At Penn State- Loss
Wisconsin- Toss Up
At Purdue- Toss Up
The shine will be off the JMU turd for certain. In a couple years they may be "Indiana" again...
Sadly, if we played that schedule next year, I'd be hard-pressed to see us doing better than 5-7. And 4-8 would be my most likely prediction.
Well we know THAT could NEVER happen ANY year cause it would mean we actually
got to PLAY Wisconsin... sadly likely NOT /s
(I was just over half my current age when the home and home series with them was first signed in 2006 (36 then;60 now). Currently it's "scheduled" (and I use that word mostly in jest) for 2031 and 32 when I will be 66/67 but I'm not holding my breath...)
We could start by things we can control- like playing every Non con game at home like Indiana is doing - smart. We would go on the road to Kennesaw and ODU like fools.
They would have to allocate more money to pay for all the non-conference teams to come here. Then again, Blacksburg supposedly earns between 2.5 - 5 million per home game.
How much credibility, money, cache, etc did we lose by getting embarassed by ODU twice in Norfolk? orders of magnitude more than what we would have had to pay them to play in Blacksburg.
No guarantee we win both of those games if they are home games though
Oh no question. There is no guarantee we beat Wofford at home. They might have tall receivers or a big DT that can blow our whole offense up.
That's why it's good that we scheduled them on the road. ;^)
Wait...
2025-2006 =19 years since 2006
36+19=55 years old if 36 in 2006
How are you 60 now?
Only asking because you were 5 years older than me in 2006, so you cant be 10 years older than me now.
You are either 55 or 60. Born in 1965 or 1970.
Assuming you arent 55 now since you claim 60, maybe you were you 41 in 2006?
Why, yes, I am an engineer. Why do you ask?
Yeah- you're right....I am 60 so 2/3 not half but it feels like its been even longer. And given the 4-5 times it's been postponed already, it wouldn't surprise me if it got moved back til I'm 82...)
I'm usually much better with math lol.
I was thinking the same thing. I was like wait, I was 36 in 2006, and I'm 55 now. Either that math don't math or there was some sort of weird space-time continuum blip. (I have no idea what that means - I just heard it in a movie and thought it sounded cool.)
There ARE definitely days when I FEEL like I aged ten years over the last five.....
My problem is that I think I am 19 yo but periodically my body reminds me when I've demanded more than it can give.
I just had an ankle surgery that I'm hoping will make me feel a few years younger if it gives me the ability to do athletic things again.
New knee at 74, should have done it 10 years ago, new other knee to come as soon as I'm fully healed from the first one, then maybe the left hip...it just don't get better my friends, so take as much care as you can with what you got and get shit fixed as soon as it looks inevitable. So many things I couldn't afford or didn't take the time to do that now I'll never get to do though retired and comfortable financially.
Oh well, I still have my Hokies, right? Right?
right
I'm going to humble brag for a second, but it pays to play the system.
I lucked out in a way that with my daughter's medical situation and my insurance (state government) being good, our family out of pocket was met and I planned it out to have my ankle cleaned up, repaired, and fixed just before the new medical plan year was to start. I knew we would have to still pay some, so I was curious about my bill whenever it was to get uploaded. Turns out my procedure totaled $58k, but I only had to pay $150 and I got my full 5 weeks off with full pay on short term disability from work. PT still isn't accounted for, but I can't imagine that being terrible either. I also will have my handicap placard so hopefully parking in Mercedes Benz Stadium won't be a hassle haha.
I'm hopeful it will solve my problem by Fall so I can resume athletic activities and begin to enjoy running around with my kids, but I have an uncle who waited way too long (15 years) to have his knees done and since he has had them, it's almost made him far worse. I encourage everyone to prioritize their self care.
Glad that worked out for you. Hope you get the full relief from the surgery. In my case, I was just fine, until I wasn't . The damage done to my knees wasn't sudden, but added up over time and surveying in the mountains for several years definitely sealed the coffin. Oh well, I had a relatively injury free life, guess it's time to pay the piper.
Most people I know who need both done generally do them both at the same time. You only have to do the rehab once. There is a guy over by Virginia Beach who goes in by the side and avoids having to cut most of the normal ones. Much faster rehab. They call it the Jiffy Knee and my father in law swears by it.
Interesting, I was always told that most doctors discouraged/refused to do both at the same time.
Mine doesn't do it. I know a woman who did both and then went into a rehab facility for a few weeks to deal with having both legs messed up at once. One was enough for me, anyway. Can't imagine using the toilet or getting up and down steps with both done, but maybe if I were a young man.
I will say I'm interested in the side cutting thing mentioned above. My wife had a friend who had a friend, etc. and said it was the way to go, easy recovery and rehab. I'll probably investigate that for my next round.
The guy in Virginia who does it is over by Suffolk. Father in law swears by it. Much less pain, very quick rehab. He had both knees done and was climbing a ladder the next week. The doctors were trying to hold him back. His hip replacement gave him more pain and issues than doing both knees at the same time. But I think the Jiffy Knee is the difference.
Same situation with my augmentation surgery last December; had already reached max out of pocket ($4000) on my company insurance; surgery bill was $33k; insurance negotiated in-network cost 16k; I paid ZERO!
They selected a hilarious image to go with the headline that's for sure