Decently close. Granted, my recollection of the Odyssey is based on Cliff Notes in HS, most (if not all?) of the major events are in the movie. There are changes in character behavior, less reliance on direct god interference, and changes in storyline details, but the overarching themes and story are strongly present in the movie.
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From what people are saying, he mostly sticks to the script.
The one major variance is having Odysseus feeling guilt over the sacking of Troy, which is absolutely not a thing from the Homer version. "Traumatized Jason Bourne" is a modern day reflection not mentioned in the Homer epic poem.
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Some of my family saw it and said it was amazing. They noted if you get a chance to see it in IMAX you should. My local theater is sold out this week but I've got tickets for next week.
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The guy who told me this is a huge Christopher Nolan fan and just absolutely loves movies. Total cinephile. He went in with the highest expectations, booked the ticket at an IMAX, almost a year in advance, and says that the movie surpassed all his expectations.
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I'll absolutely see this on IMAX. I think it'll be a fantastic film, and it was designed for that venue.
But one thing that might affect the durability of this film is portraying Odysseus as feeling guilt over the Trojan war, which absolutely strays from any reasonable interpretation of the source material as a major theme. I haven't seen it yet, so this is just internet speculation at this point. Also, in a hundred years, will AI have beaten out cinema? Humans? In 20 years, won't you be able to design your own movies? Anyone who will be alive in a hundred years better buckle their seatbelts. I digress.
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Also, in a hundred years, will AI have beaten out cinema? Humans? In 20 years, won't you be able to design your own movies? Anyone who will be alive in a hundred years better buckle their
I mean, people still feel that Clockwork Orange in the graduate or some of the greatest movies of all time, and those are both ~60 years old.
There are books and plays that are hundreds of years old that people still consider some of the best storytelling of all time.
I haven't seen the movie yet, and I do think this is a bit of a extreme statement, but even in the AI era, I think good storytelling will survive the test of time.
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I think the allure of a verbal story or the written word is that our brains can fill in the blanks and make it our own. The voices, the sounds, the settings are just framed by the author. The ability of a filmmaker to show you what they interpret the story to be can likewise be appreciated on a human level. I don't know that AI can fill that gap, at least not for a while. Humans by their nature love to tell stories and I hope that holds true for future generations. Being able to draw our own conclusions and use human feelings and empathy to do that is unique to us.
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I agree with you that storytelling will survive the test of time.
The Odyssey as an epic poem has already stood the test of time and will continue to do so, even though oral histories went out when written formats became available. But we can still appreciate the storytelling involved. Shakespeare plays are in a class of their own.
Cinema is it's own artform. Some examples of works that have stood the test of time include "A Clockwork Orange", "Casablanca", "La Strada", and "Citizen Kane". Even "Barry Lyndon". To achieve a place on this list, a work must be truly special. The technology changes, but we can appreciate contributions from different eras. It's hard to discuss where Nolan's "The Oddysey" will shake out on that list, particularly as we haven't even seen it.
It's almost a different topic, but one part of my comment was just saying that when we start talking about 100 years from now, we probably need to anticipate that the artform of cinema may change drastically. What will people 100 years from now remember, and how will they experience cinema, when they can create a feature themselves using AI? The top classics will no doubt still be available, but they'll have a lot more competition.
Just to put this in context, TCM is likely my most watched channel other than news. Let's revisit this discussion after we've both seen it.
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I have friends like this and I take all their movie/show opinions with a grain of salt. Not everything can be "the greatest thing I've ever seen since the last greatest thing I've ever seen".
Usually the harder they try to explain how great something is, the more I subtract from how good it actually is.
I do expect this movie to be good though. If like to try to make it to Blacksburg for their IMAX screen.
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1) Nolan's best movie is The Dark Knight. It would have worked even if the antagonist and protagonist weren't comic book characters.
2) The Odyssey is an excellent movie. Cinemetography was stellar. Matt Damon captured the spirit brilliantly. Charlieze Theron is an absolute smokeshow. Pattinson did a great job of portraying the sniveling twat of an antagonist. But it also has some weak points.
a. I like Berenthal, but that was not good casting. He is a soldier, not a haughty cruel warrior-king. He struggled to sound authentic.
b. The music. I know that comes with Nolan movies, but it could have laid out to allow the exposition to take hold.
c. I thought Nolan underplayed Odysseyus hubris following his defeat of Troy and the blinding of Cyclops. The gods should have played a bigger role and been more visually present. If he wanted to make the case that the gods were superstition, then why show Athena acting as Odysseyus concious? Posiden, Ares, Apollo all have big roles in the story. Why cut them out?
d. minor detail, but Telemychus (sp?) saw another former soldier from the Trojan War (forgetting the name) before Menelaeus.
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Now, if you really want me to evicserate a movie, I will come with both knives to rip Young Washington to pieces. The source material is so good and interesting, yet somehow they managed to take artistic license to make the story less interesting.
1) Christopher Gist lived on the frontier near present-day Pittsburgh. His homestead was destroyed by the Mingo and Shawnee. He left the area and died of smallpox in South Carolina.
2) Braddock was wounded, but was evacuated and died days later. Washington and Thomas Gage made the choice to bury Braddock underneath the road that still bears his name so the tribal warriors would not violate his grave.
3) Washington was close personal friends with Will Fairfax, not confrontational. His relationship with the Fairfaxs was one of the reasons he got audience with Lord Fairfax and joined James Genn's surveyor team. Washington did however continue his illicit love letters to Sally Fairfax at least until his marriage to Martha, if not until Will and Sally left on the eve of the Revolution.
4) The French and Tribal military contingent certainly did not have enough cannon to have explosions all over the place like Kenny Powers just pyroed Cambodia. At most they had a handful of small field pieces, and since the ambush took place in a heavily wooded area, any cannon would have been firing grape shot at very close range.
I could go on and on. I went because I have loved the subject matter of Washington, particularly his time on the frontier, since I was a little kid and listened to my blue and yellow Fisher Price cassette. But that movie, despite the presence of Andy Serkis and Ben Kinglsey, was a gigantic flaming turd.
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Has anybody been to the Udvar-Hazy 70mm IMAX theatre? I was looking at getting 2 tickets for my wife and I and so far, their schedule only shows listings through August 8th, but all the available seats are in the lower half. I read some comments online not recommending the lower half since the screen is so LARGE (6 stories tall?) and the experience is not great.
Has anybody seen a movie on the lower half seats? How bad was it?
Does anybody know if they'll have additional offerings for the movie past August 8th?
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I haven't been in a while, but I saw Inception and The Dark Knight there, absolutely worth it. I wouldn't sit too low otherwise you'll have a neck cramp tracking all the action.
Based on what they've done in the past, they will re-run this movie a bunch there. Unless they hate money.
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Watched it this past weekend. They did a fantastic job with "good but not great" (IMO) source material. The ending was silly though, not sure why they felt like they had to diverge from the source material at that point.
It's a beautiful film and is directed very well. I probably would have cast some roles differently, but overall it was a great film that I probably won't watch again haha. The portrayal of Agamemnon was cool and an awesome creative choice that really sticks out.
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So with the ending, the prophecy in the story (from what I remember) says he won't die on Ithaca but will sail west and will die somewhere out there so I think it pulled from that. There's a lot of speculation that there's a third part to Odysseus's story that's been lost to time that outlines that journey.
Honestly I thought the ending of the book was a bit silly, Athena just being the original version of Adam Sandler in big daddy saying enough already haha and then it's over.
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I thought it was a pretty incredible movie. I don't know if it's Nolan's best, I'm really partial to Inception, Oppenheimer, Interstellar and Tenet, but it was entertaining. It's rare that I'm able to forget about my phone for 3 hours, but that's exactly what happened. I saw non-IMAX locally, 70mm, will see the IMAX version at Udvar-Hazy at some point.
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I'm a Nolan fan boy; however, it's a masterpiece in my opinion. I have some small gripes, kind of like pebbles in your shoe level gripes, nothing that stops you from climbing to the peak of cinematic greatness.
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Saw it in imax yesterday. It's genuinely an incredible feat. I don't know where it will fall in my personal Nolan rankings but there's no denying what an amazing job he did making this movie. I told my wife "it's amazing, I can't really stop thinking about it, but I'm not sure how many times I'll rewatch it." It's a lot of heavy things like trauma, guilt, and PTSD.
I made a point to read the Emily Wilson translation, which is what Nolan used as his inspiration for the script and it hit almost all of the plot points in there. I was largely ok with the big deviations (who he's telling his story to, the main way he gets back to Ithaca) because it makes sense that some things had to be cut to even keep this under 3 hours (70 mm IMAX restrictions aside). The classic Nolan non-linear story telling building it all around the Horse was interesting and I really enjoyed that he managed to take a 3000 year old story and pull an inception move and leave a major character up to interpretation (don't want to spoil too much since there's no tag on the post). The way he displays the gods just seems like peak Nolan wanting to make everything as grounded as possible.
The big set pieces (the Cyclops, Hades, post-Helios's calves, and, especially, the Horse/troy) blew me away with the practical effects. The costume design of Agamemnon was so cool.
Damon was fantastic, I was really worried about how it would play, but for Nolan's version of Odysseus he was a great casting. Anne Hathaway was terrific, Charlize... there's really nothing I can l say, she looks amazing. Tom Holland did a great job with a tough role with how Telemachus is portrayed in the story and Pattinson was a good villain.
I'm not sure if it was my theater or just a product of imax or what but it was the loudest goddamn movie I've ever been to.
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I read something today that says Nolan personally sets the IMAX theater sound settings himself, and that theaters are contractually bound to use the same settings. Idk if that's 100% real, but have heard a ton of IMAX moviegoers saying the same thing as you haha
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I would believe this, and I'm pretty sure the last IMAX movie that I saw was Guardians of the Galaxy on opening night so it's been a minute, but my only reference point for the odyssey is my coworker who sits at the desk next to me and he saw it in the exact same theater and he agreed it was loud as hell haha
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Thanks for the heads up about the volume. I saw similar commentary in the Washington Post comments.
The Washington Post has a viewing guide with some comments about the different theaters today ( with basic comparisons of IMAX, 70MM, Dolby, 4DX, etc experiences). The comments about 4DX were interesting. "The log ride of movie formats", and "finish your popcorn during the previews", before getting tossed around and poked during sword fights. Also said you could feel rocking of boats and smell fires burning, and advised to eat your popcorn during the previews.
IMAX 70mm or IMAX seems the ways to go if easily available.
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excessive volume has been one of the reasons Mrs MattBoard doesn't often go to movie theaters any more. She has inner ear issues and excessively loud explosions, music and such can trigger vertigo which either means she is miserable or we leave early. We were pleasantly surprised when we saw Project Hail Mary in theaters and it was balanced really well for the space/crowd.
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Its pumping up IMAX visits too. We don't have an IMAX close but the one we do have does assigned seats (not sure if they all do this) next showing with availability in the back sections is next thursday at 10:10PM
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My 27 yo son is going to see it. I will report back asap. I will rest my decision on his feedback just like I did with Napoleon.
My son saw it last night. He said it was a good movie, enjoyed it through and through. The only negative, it's a long movie. That's it.
How closely does it follow Greek myth and the story that Homer wrote?
Honestly, does that matter? We are talking Hollywood here.
Well, judging by how it is named...........
Decently close. Granted, my recollection of the Odyssey is based on Cliff Notes in HS, most (if not all?) of the major events are in the movie. There are changes in character behavior, less reliance on direct god interference, and changes in storyline details, but the overarching themes and story are strongly present in the movie.
I didn't ask him. I was more interested in his overall opinion.
Hollywood always takes its liberties when making their movie adaptations.
From the reviews I've read, it's "sticks to the script" to a large degree. Well enough where folks don't take much issue.
From what people are saying, he mostly sticks to the script.
The one major variance is having Odysseus feeling guilt over the sacking of Troy, which is absolutely not a thing from the Homer version. "Traumatized Jason Bourne" is a modern day reflection not mentioned in the Homer epic poem.
Did Calypso capture him for 7 years ?
I haven't seen it, but its going to have to be a pretty masterful rendition to top this masterpiece
Yeah, this movie was a wonder with great music and wonderful acting.
Is Nolan a Dapper Dan man though!?!
I've heard good things about it. Tempted to go to Udvar-Hazy from Richmond to see it on their IMAX.
Some of my family saw it and said it was amazing. They noted if you get a chance to see it in IMAX you should. My local theater is sold out this week but I've got tickets for next week.
My friend, who is a movie buff believes that in 100 years, it will be known as one of the best pieces of cinema of all time
That is quite possible that the Coen Brother's version will be very tough to surpass.
Really? That good?
Guess I need to get to the theater to see it, then!
The guy who told me this is a huge Christopher Nolan fan and just absolutely loves movies. Total cinephile. He went in with the highest expectations, booked the ticket at an IMAX, almost a year in advance, and says that the movie surpassed all his expectations.
I'll absolutely see this on IMAX. I think it'll be a fantastic film, and it was designed for that venue.
But one thing that might affect the durability of this film is portraying Odysseus as feeling guilt over the Trojan war, which absolutely strays from any reasonable interpretation of the source material as a major theme. I haven't seen it yet, so this is just internet speculation at this point. Also, in a hundred years, will AI have beaten out cinema? Humans? In 20 years, won't you be able to design your own movies? Anyone who will be alive in a hundred years better buckle their seatbelts. I digress.
I mean, people still feel that Clockwork Orange in the graduate or some of the greatest movies of all time, and those are both ~60 years old.
There are books and plays that are hundreds of years old that people still consider some of the best storytelling of all time.
I haven't seen the movie yet, and I do think this is a bit of a extreme statement, but even in the AI era, I think good storytelling will survive the test of time.
I think the allure of a verbal story or the written word is that our brains can fill in the blanks and make it our own. The voices, the sounds, the settings are just framed by the author. The ability of a filmmaker to show you what they interpret the story to be can likewise be appreciated on a human level. I don't know that AI can fill that gap, at least not for a while. Humans by their nature love to tell stories and I hope that holds true for future generations. Being able to draw our own conclusions and use human feelings and empathy to do that is unique to us.
I agree with you that storytelling will survive the test of time.
The Odyssey as an epic poem has already stood the test of time and will continue to do so, even though oral histories went out when written formats became available. But we can still appreciate the storytelling involved. Shakespeare plays are in a class of their own.
Cinema is it's own artform. Some examples of works that have stood the test of time include "A Clockwork Orange", "Casablanca", "La Strada", and "Citizen Kane". Even "Barry Lyndon". To achieve a place on this list, a work must be truly special. The technology changes, but we can appreciate contributions from different eras. It's hard to discuss where Nolan's "The Oddysey" will shake out on that list, particularly as we haven't even seen it.
It's almost a different topic, but one part of my comment was just saying that when we start talking about 100 years from now, we probably need to anticipate that the artform of cinema may change drastically. What will people 100 years from now remember, and how will they experience cinema, when they can create a feature themselves using AI? The top classics will no doubt still be available, but they'll have a lot more competition.
Just to put this in context, TCM is likely my most watched channel other than news. Let's revisit this discussion after we've both seen it.
I have friends like this and I take all their movie/show opinions with a grain of salt. Not everything can be "the greatest thing I've ever seen since the last greatest thing I've ever seen".
Usually the harder they try to explain how great something is, the more I subtract from how good it actually is.
I do expect this movie to be good though. If like to try to make it to Blacksburg for their IMAX screen.
Recency Bias is a real thing.
This individual is not one of those people; he's the opposite. Super cynical, nothing is ever good enough. etc. so I took note of his response.
That would pique my interest then if a cynic has good things to say.
What's Nolan's best movie? He has a lot of really great ones.
Dark Knight is probably my favorite, but The Prestige is up there
Lots of stuff to reply to in this thread:
1) Nolan's best movie is The Dark Knight. It would have worked even if the antagonist and protagonist weren't comic book characters.
2) The Odyssey is an excellent movie. Cinemetography was stellar. Matt Damon captured the spirit brilliantly. Charlieze Theron is an absolute smokeshow. Pattinson did a great job of portraying the sniveling twat of an antagonist. But it also has some weak points.
a. I like Berenthal, but that was not good casting. He is a soldier, not a haughty cruel warrior-king. He struggled to sound authentic.
b. The music. I know that comes with Nolan movies, but it could have laid out to allow the exposition to take hold.
c. I thought Nolan underplayed Odysseyus hubris following his defeat of Troy and the blinding of Cyclops. The gods should have played a bigger role and been more visually present. If he wanted to make the case that the gods were superstition, then why show Athena acting as Odysseyus concious? Posiden, Ares, Apollo all have big roles in the story. Why cut them out?
d. minor detail, but Telemychus (sp?) saw another former soldier from the Trojan War (forgetting the name) before Menelaeus.
Now, if you really want me to evicserate a movie, I will come with both knives to rip Young Washington to pieces. The source material is so good and interesting, yet somehow they managed to take artistic license to make the story less interesting.
1) Christopher Gist lived on the frontier near present-day Pittsburgh. His homestead was destroyed by the Mingo and Shawnee. He left the area and died of smallpox in South Carolina.
2) Braddock was wounded, but was evacuated and died days later. Washington and Thomas Gage made the choice to bury Braddock underneath the road that still bears his name so the tribal warriors would not violate his grave.
3) Washington was close personal friends with Will Fairfax, not confrontational. His relationship with the Fairfaxs was one of the reasons he got audience with Lord Fairfax and joined James Genn's surveyor team. Washington did however continue his illicit love letters to Sally Fairfax at least until his marriage to Martha, if not until Will and Sally left on the eve of the Revolution.
4) The French and Tribal military contingent certainly did not have enough cannon to have explosions all over the place like Kenny Powers just pyroed Cambodia. At most they had a handful of small field pieces, and since the ambush took place in a heavily wooded area, any cannon would have been firing grape shot at very close range.
I could go on and on. I went because I have loved the subject matter of Washington, particularly his time on the frontier, since I was a little kid and listened to my blue and yellow Fisher Price cassette. But that movie, despite the presence of Andy Serkis and Ben Kinglsey, was a gigantic flaming turd.
Anybody still wonder why it is so much fun to spend a day in the boat with French?
I mean, a day in the boat with you is pretty awesome too.
Oh pshaw!
Has anybody been to the Udvar-Hazy 70mm IMAX theatre? I was looking at getting 2 tickets for my wife and I and so far, their schedule only shows listings through August 8th, but all the available seats are in the lower half. I read some comments online not recommending the lower half since the screen is so LARGE (6 stories tall?) and the experience is not great.
Has anybody seen a movie on the lower half seats? How bad was it?
Does anybody know if they'll have additional offerings for the movie past August 8th?
I haven't been in a while, but I saw Inception and The Dark Knight there, absolutely worth it. I wouldn't sit too low otherwise you'll have a neck cramp tracking all the action.
Based on what they've done in the past, they will re-run this movie a bunch there. Unless they hate money.
Awesome. Thanks Joe.
I'll just wait a bit till some new showings open up to get a couple seats on the top section.
Watched it this past weekend. They did a fantastic job with "good but not great" (IMO) source material. The ending was silly though, not sure why they felt like they had to diverge from the source material at that point.
It's a beautiful film and is directed very well. I probably would have cast some roles differently, but overall it was a great film that I probably won't watch again haha. The portrayal of Agamemnon was cool and an awesome creative choice that really sticks out.
So with the ending, the prophecy in the story (from what I remember) says he won't die on Ithaca but will sail west and will die somewhere out there so I think it pulled from that. There's a lot of speculation that there's a third part to Odysseus's story that's been lost to time that outlines that journey.
Honestly I thought the ending of the book was a bit silly, Athena just being the original version of Adam Sandler in big daddy saying enough already haha and then it's over.
I thought it was a pretty incredible movie. I don't know if it's Nolan's best, I'm really partial to Inception, Oppenheimer, Interstellar and Tenet, but it was entertaining. It's rare that I'm able to forget about my phone for 3 hours, but that's exactly what happened. I saw non-IMAX locally, 70mm, will see the IMAX version at Udvar-Hazy at some point.
I need to revisit tenet. It broke my brain too much in the moment when I watched it the first time. I've heard it's much more consumable on rewatch.
Nolan rankings:
1) Dark Knight
2) Tenent
3) Odyssey
4) Interstellar
5) Everything I have not seen (Oppenheimer)
6) Dunkirk (he managed to make one of the most dramatic moments in history and made it feel smaller and boring.)
I'm a Nolan fan boy; however, it's a masterpiece in my opinion. I have some small gripes, kind of like pebbles in your shoe level gripes, nothing that stops you from climbing to the peak of cinematic greatness.
Saw it in imax yesterday. It's genuinely an incredible feat. I don't know where it will fall in my personal Nolan rankings but there's no denying what an amazing job he did making this movie. I told my wife "it's amazing, I can't really stop thinking about it, but I'm not sure how many times I'll rewatch it." It's a lot of heavy things like trauma, guilt, and PTSD.
I made a point to read the Emily Wilson translation, which is what Nolan used as his inspiration for the script and it hit almost all of the plot points in there. I was largely ok with the big deviations (who he's telling his story to, the main way he gets back to Ithaca) because it makes sense that some things had to be cut to even keep this under 3 hours (70 mm IMAX restrictions aside). The classic Nolan non-linear story telling building it all around the Horse was interesting and I really enjoyed that he managed to take a 3000 year old story and pull an inception move and leave a major character up to interpretation (don't want to spoil too much since there's no tag on the post). The way he displays the gods just seems like peak Nolan wanting to make everything as grounded as possible.
The big set pieces (the Cyclops, Hades, post-Helios's calves, and, especially, the Horse/troy) blew me away with the practical effects. The costume design of Agamemnon was so cool.
Damon was fantastic, I was really worried about how it would play, but for Nolan's version of Odysseus he was a great casting. Anne Hathaway was terrific, Charlize... there's really nothing I can l say, she looks amazing. Tom Holland did a great job with a tough role with how Telemachus is portrayed in the story and Pattinson was a good villain.
I'm not sure if it was my theater or just a product of imax or what but it was the loudest goddamn movie I've ever been to.
It was loud as hell for me too.
Nolan is seriously putting me off his movies with the shit audio mixing. I shouldn't have to wear ear plugs to a movie
I read something today that says Nolan personally sets the IMAX theater sound settings himself, and that theaters are contractually bound to use the same settings. Idk if that's 100% real, but have heard a ton of IMAX moviegoers saying the same thing as you haha
I would believe this, and I'm pretty sure the last IMAX movie that I saw was Guardians of the Galaxy on opening night so it's been a minute, but my only reference point for the odyssey is my coworker who sits at the desk next to me and he saw it in the exact same theater and he agreed it was loud as hell haha
Thanks for the heads up about the volume. I saw similar commentary in the Washington Post comments.
The Washington Post has a viewing guide with some comments about the different theaters today ( with basic comparisons of IMAX, 70MM, Dolby, 4DX, etc experiences). The comments about 4DX were interesting. "The log ride of movie formats", and "finish your popcorn during the previews", before getting tossed around and poked during sword fights. Also said you could feel rocking of boats and smell fires burning, and advised to eat your popcorn during the previews.
IMAX 70mm or IMAX seems the ways to go if easily available.
excessive volume has been one of the reasons Mrs MattBoard doesn't often go to movie theaters any more. She has inner ear issues and excessively loud explosions, music and such can trigger vertigo which either means she is miserable or we leave early. We were pleasantly surprised when we saw Project Hail Mary in theaters and it was balanced really well for the space/crowd.
Its pumping up IMAX visits too. We don't have an IMAX close but the one we do have does assigned seats (not sure if they all do this) next showing with availability in the back sections is next thursday at 10:10PM
Haven't seen the movie yet, but, you Odyssey deez nuts.
(I heard that the other day and have been looking for a chance to use it).
sir, the dad jokes thread is that way