Michael Brewer and Hokies outlook

Sources tell me that the Hokie coaching staff expects Brewer to win the starting job. It was pretty much insinuated that unless he falls flat on his face, he is expected to be the guy. Apparently they think he is "the real deal" and think he is going to be very good.

This is based on someone golfing with ex Hokie players, coaches, ect at a Hokie Club Golf outing in the DC area last week.

It was further said that Marshawn is also the real deal...huge things are expected of him.
I trust the source I heard all this from implicitly.

Apparently, Aaron Morehead was raving about the team and saying that people are going to be surprised...pleasantly surprised by this team once Brewer gets on campus. He also is very high on the WR's.
Finally, the general feeling is that this team is going to be better than people think...but that NEXT YEAR is the year.
The coaches really feel that this team is going to be VERY good next year.

Take it for what its worth...hearing this from my source really got me excited for this season and especially next season...the future looks pretty good.

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#SOURCES

Couldn't help myself

#MULTIPLESOURCES?

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I really hope they never fire Coach Fondue.

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"I'm high on Juice and ready to stick it in!" Whit Babcock

Michael is Brewer is a good QB. At TT , he had won the job before getting hurt. I wouldnt overlook him. He seemed accurate and didnt make a lot of mental mistakes in the limited actions he had. Its still remained to be seen what he does against a good defense , though. He will get plenty of training against a great defense when he goes against VT in practice. I have a feeling the competition will elevate all the QBs at tech with Brewer and Motley coming out on top.

Allen Ox

Its funny that you post about this. I've actually had a friend and a co-worker who have connections who have said the same thing about Brewer. This is all great to hear, but I am still going to temper my expectations until the season gets here.

"The Big Ten is always using excuses to cancel games with us. First Wisconsin. Then Wisconsin. After that, Wisconsin. The subsequent cancellation with Wisconsin comes to mind too. Now Penn State. What's next? Wisconsin?" -HorseOnATreadmill

MOAR #SOURCES

I knew I'd just be fueling the fire, but this is the third time I've heard it mentioned. Where there's smoke...

"The Big Ten is always using excuses to cancel games with us. First Wisconsin. Then Wisconsin. After that, Wisconsin. The subsequent cancellation with Wisconsin comes to mind too. Now Penn State. What's next? Wisconsin?" -HorseOnATreadmill

there's beer and roasted pig?

"I'm high on Juice and ready to stick it in!" Whit Babcock

BOURBON and smoked turkey legs!!!!

A decade on TKP and it's been time well spent.

Hah, I've heard the same thing like 5 or 6 times. I didn't trust it at first but it now seems as if the great competition won't really be a competition at all.

In Sam Rogers we trust.

It also makes you wonder if the coaching staff really isn't too worried about keeping it secret if so many of us have already heard word of it

"The Big Ten is always using excuses to cancel games with us. First Wisconsin. Then Wisconsin. After that, Wisconsin. The subsequent cancellation with Wisconsin comes to mind too. Now Penn State. What's next? Wisconsin?" -HorseOnATreadmill

The talking heads in the sports media will not believe it, so it doesn't matter. Let them wear knee pads for the SEC, B1G, etc. and then when we whoop anOSU, there will be this massive: "How did we miss this?" mentality. I love it. Let the ether do its magic for the Hokie Nation.

Pain is Temporary, Chicks Dig Scars
Glory is Forever, Let's Go Hokies!!

It is to the point where they don't even bother with the knee pads these days.

15

Calluses

We put the K in Kwality

I have also heard things similar to this from people at the spring practices.

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He's no good to me dead.

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He's no good to me dead.

throw confetti

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For those keeping score at home, Brewer's combined numbers in the 2012 & 2013 Texas Tech spring games were:

47-71 586 yrds, 4 TDs, 0 Ints

His combined regular season numbers for 2012 & 2013 were:

41-58 440 yrds, 5 TDs, 0 Ints

I realize that these numbers weren't 100% full speed, live game action against 1st team defenses, but those numbers aren't by accident either. I would guess the part that probably catches the coaches' eyes are the zero interceptions in nearly 130 passes. Given what is expected out of VT's defense (and the lack of offensive firepower)this year, a QB that doesn't give other teams free possessions is going to be critical.

And be reminded that because he played little in the 2013 season, those numbers were largely put up before he even began his r-Soph season.

I have been all over the internet trying to get quotes about this guy.. A lot of them have to do with being smart with the ball and not forcing it. If he has nothing he can pick up a couple yards with his legs. Kingsburry or w/e his name is said he had high hopes for him because he was very good at making adjustments at the line of scrimmage and finding the mismatches and being able to execute with results.

"I'm high on Juice and ready to stick it in!" Whit Babcock

What I've seen of him is that he makes quick decisions (and thus is probably making good pre-snaps reads), gets the ball out pretty quickly, and pretty accurately. And the reads/decisions must be pretty good because of the low INTs. He doesn't appear to take many deep shots, but that may have been a function of the TT system.

Sounds like a decent fit for the VT offense given what it has.

I've got a few #sources of my own, and I can say that essentially everything in vhokie's post is spot-on. Lefty is pretty much waiting on Brewer, we're expecting big things from Williams, and next year has the potential to be really special. I also got the chance to talk with Moorehead a bit, and he's definitely excited about his wideouts, while still a bit concerned about their lack of experience and how that can affect the offense (see point about next year). Still, the man knows what he's doing, and in my opinion he's criminally underpaid. Here's to hoping he doesn't figure that out before Whit opens up the checkbook a bit.

I wish I was criminally underpaid at $200K a year.

Joffrey, Cersei, Ilyn Payne, the Hound, Jeff Jagodzinski, Paul Johnson, Pat Narduzzi.

You and me both. I just don't want to see what happened with Grimes again. I want Moorehead to be the next Gray - stay around, coach excellence, and put guys in the league year after year.

I, unfortunately see Coach Moorehead as using VT as a stepping stone to gain experience and move up to a higher position/bigger program/NFL. That said, we know he's motivated to coach his ass off for the next couple years to get where he wants to be. This is also how I see Buzz Williams. Moving to VT is a career move by moving to a major conference program. I'm confident he has aspirations to move beyond VT in a couple years. That said, we should enjoy them while we've got them and make the most of building our programs. I wish these things were not true but unfortunately, my logic overpowers my heart on the matter.

He's no good to me dead.

I can see Moorehead using this as a stepping stone. He is quite young and has no real ties to the program. That being said I believe he will be around long enough to make huge impact and set the foundation for a great replacement.

Buzz on the other hand I have to disagree with. He doesn't need VT as a stepping stone or an entrance door into anything. If he simply wanted a job in a power conference he could have gotten one many places. I see him coming to VT to build a dynasty. I believe that's what Whit sold him on. A program with no real history but in a power conference, one that could be built on the legacy of Buzz Williams.

I think the big difference now is that we have an AD willing to pay for success. So maybe we can start keeping some of these coaches that we would have lost in the past.

“These people are losing their minds. This is beautiful.”

I can see why you would say that about Buzz. I just have this sinking feeling that he has a life en-devour to take over for Coach K in the next half decade (or some other prestigious basketball school). And making the transition to the ACC while building a bottom dweller of a program to prove yourself seems all too perfect of a setup for this kind of career move. He has positioned himself well for such a move. It may be more of a leaping boulders than stepping stones for Buzz, but at his paygrade/experience level, thats what you do to get the top job.

*EDIT - By no means do I think Buzz doesn't care about us and putting all his effort/emotion into VT Basketball. He cared just as much about Marquette but decided it was time to move on from them. For the record however, I hope #BasketballBuzz is the new #BeamerofBasketball.

He's no good to me dead.

I can't say I wouldn't be disappointed if this were the case, but I never expected a hire as good as Buzz in my wildest dreams in the first place, so even if he does just use us as a "stepping stone" I would be thankful that he (hopefully) at least got us out of the gutter and made us respectable by the time he leaves. I'm already excited for next year and at this time 2 months ago I thought we would be less than irrelevant in basketball for the forseeable future.

Even if Buzz were to use VT as a stepping stone-(complete conjecture as the man just got to campus)-the fact that Whit has ponied up big time money for basketball is the greatest change, IMHO.
Because VT is willing to put up big time money we have shown that we can be relevant and are willing to do what it takes to compete.

Not to mention, if he does build a program in whatever finite period of his tenure, he will leave behind a much more sought after position for a much more respected program with much deeper pockets than before. Just continues to show how amazing of a hire #Whitnessthestorm was.

He's no good to me dead.

Upping the ante once is great, but if you want to show coaches around the country that you're truly serious about being competitive in basketball, you have to up it every chance you get. From speaking with him last week, and hearing his speech where he rarely even mentioned football because of how excited he was over basketball, I have a feeling he'll do that for us.

The one thing we could do right now that would send further shockwaves around the basketball community is to announce plans for either a MAJOR refit of Cassell or announce we're in the developmental stages of designing its replacement. We may love Cassell as a fanbase, but around the basketball community, its not exactly viewed upon as a top notch facility. We do something to correct this, and you better believe it'll open some eyes and make us a far more attractive destination if and when Buzz moves on.

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

I think Buzz is more likely to leave to take over either a former basketball power to restore it to glory or another bottom dweller. Seems like he thrives more on a challenge than on just sitting at the top, I know he left Marquette for variety of reasons but I think he just got bored. If this is true, it's encouraging because I think it means he'll be at Tech for more than 3-4 seasons (which would indicate this is more of a "stepping stone" career move). I think he wants to build a consistent winning program not just have a few good years and that takes a while to build.

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"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

Morehead was apparently super impressive as a speaker at the golf outing. He is REALLY enthusiastic about the program.
Good things were also said about Buzz Williams. Keion Carpenter was driving around on a golf cart schmoozing the golfers...heard he was a GREAT guy.

Buzz Williams, while optimistic, is still a little cautious about proclaiming how good the B-ball team will do this year. He is a little worried about having enough bodies in uniform.

This is more info from #sources

VHokie

Oh, oh!!!
Almost forgot...#source was told "off the record" that the coaches think Bucky Hodges could end up being a 1st round draft pick by the time his college career is over. They really think they have something special with him at Tight end...(and that ain't no Tight End joke either)

VHokie

How could you not draft a 22' 8" TE in the first round?!

Because he can't play indoors.

We put the K in Kwality

Domes are for punk teams anyway.

No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

We don't love dem Hoos.

That can't be possible.... He's a QB and has never played the TE position before. Its absurd anyone would think he can succeed at that position without any prior experience.

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"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

Bucky Hodges could end up being a 1st round draft pick by the time his college career is over

About as shocking as someone saying the sun has all the physical tools to come up tomorrow morning.

Most important question of all about Brewer:

Does he have Swag?

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His last name quite literally involves beer making...

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He's no good to me dead.

'Its easy to grin, when your ship comes in, and you've got the stock market beat,
but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

Brewer is QB for black team well sort of.. ohhh and mute it the guy is a terrible commentator.

"I'm high on Juice and ready to stick it in!" Whit Babcock

Thanks for posting this. Brewer (#16, playing for the white team - offense) has looked pretty impressive. A nice touch pass on a deep throw and a few that had some zip on them over the middle. He could tighten a couple things up mechanically and has had a couple passes knocked down at the line, but looks accurate and it seems like all the lights are on upstairs.

*EDIT* One more note: I know it's "just" the spring game, but TTU's uniforms looks like absolute garbage. Look like something out of high school football. Hope for their sake they've cleaned that up a bit.

how would you compare him to what you've seen of motley?

"That kid you're talking to right there, I think he played his nuts off! And you can quote me on that shit!" -Bud Foster

in the short clips there he is very very accurate with the football and it comes out fast. Not Logan thomas fast but he did split a throw between 2 LB's in the middle of the field to a WR who got 10-15 more YAC's.

he is mobile so he can get away from pressure but keeps his head down field always looking for a player open. I would say his IQ is probably a lot higher than any QB here due to the nature of offense they run at TT.

"I'm high on Juice and ready to stick it in!" Whit Babcock

Really hard to say, because TTU runs such a wildly different offense from VT's. However, if he can get the playbook and under-center footwork down, I think he easily could be as good or better. I'm not saying Brewer/Motley would be comparable to Tyrod/Ju-Ju, but I'd have to say Brewer is a touch more accurate and maybe can process information a bit quicker (simply because he was asked to do that so often), so I'd give him the edge.

Motley is at his best when his athleticism is a threat. Brewer seems to be at his best when he knows what's in front of him and can quickly identify a favorable matchup.

"When he can quickly identify a favorable matchup"
Maybe my ignorance, but isn't that asking for trouble in our system? I mean, our WRs (historically) have not been great at creating separation, let alone quickly (giving that fast read). Right?

2 words: Bucky Hodges.

This is where the development of guys like Parker and Stanford will come in, as well as possible contributions from talented freshmen such as Holland and Ford.

You see it pretty much the same as me.

FYI, there are also highlights out there of the TT 2012 Spring game if you use that google thingy. From the highlight clip, IMO, he still looked noticeably more mechanically sound as a "to be" r-soph than the incumbent starter at the time, Seth Doege (who I think was on the Falcons practice squad last year and is now with a CFL team).

You see it pretty much the same as me.

That's cause we're smart 'n stuff. Yeah, I'll have to take a look at the 2012 game soon, thanks for pointing that out.

I've heard the same thing from friends on the team/staff you basically took the words right out of my mouth I was told that brewer is "legit" and incredibly talented

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

Holy punctuation, Batman.

yeah me and my run-on sentences. theres a reason Im not an English major

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

It's ok-engineers don't need to do grammer real good just be much more better at math.

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North Endzone @ 03 Miami.

I'd be surprised if Brewer isn't the starter next year.

This season has a much higher ceiling than last years did, IMO. If everything goes perfectly (Brewer (or Motley, if he wins the job) plays well, the offensive line gels and is able to run block, Edmunds/Marshawn have holes to run through, the tight ends stay healthy, the receivers improve over last season, the entire defense stays healthy) then I would be really surprised if this team doesn't win 10 games. However, that's a lot of ifs. I have concerns about the depth of the defensive line and the linebacker group. Will this offensive line be able to drive people off the ball? Will the receivers make the leap?

This offensive staff wants to run a pro-style offense, which demands higher quality talent than any other system. It's based off of the staff's ability to create mismatches... but if you don't have better athletes your going to struggle to win one on one battles. Make no mistake about it, this staff is still recovering from recruiting misses during the last staff's reign. As the talent level rises in the program, so will the offensive production.

That's why the coaches are excited about the season after next. The talented players they've recruited will finally be ready to contribute all over the field.

So what your saying is, that if everybody plays really well, we should be really good?

I've heard the same as well from very reliable people who would know

Hokie, Hokie, Hokie, Hy!
Tech, Tech, VPI

And I've heard the same from a really great web site

"Exit light..."

Hey now, some of us still actually talk to other human beings.

Here is film of Brewer and our review. Watch and decide for yourself!

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

I think you forgot something.

This might be the only time you get to call out French and be indisputably correct.

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The last few years there has been quiet around the football team with little to no information that truly got me excited for the upcoming year but this year is different, I feel it in the air. It's just something different about the way the Hokies are talking this year from the coaches down to the players and all I have to say is....

and this is how I feel each time I read something like Brewer and expectations

Wagon's full and Momma I'm coming home.

I can feel it coming in the air

FTFY

hangover

I'm here for the memes, I just stay for the football.

Brewer could be a 4 or 5 win player for this team. If he is as good as the #sources say, this is a 10+ win team. If he's hurt or can't beat out Motley, this team will celebrate bowl eligibility.

I think Brewer will be good.

#analysis

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

Very True.

have a rock

Wagon's full and Momma I'm coming home.

This thread is getting me pumped up for this coming season!
Eyes

So, according to the bottom right corner, this GIF is from a Brazzers video. I just lost it laughing.

This is some kind of a shampoo commercial, right??!!

We put the K in Kwality

where's the brazzers logo on this one... I swear its somewhere

"I'm high on Juice and ready to stick it in!" Whit Babcock

Psst. NewSensations is a company in the same "field" as Brazzers.

"Nope, launch him into the sun and fart on him on the way up"
-gobble gobble chumps

"11-0, bro"
-Hunter Carpenter (probably)

Bahahah that was the first thing I noticed too.

Hyping up Hokie Nation one video at a time.

yikes

"That kid you're talking to right there, I think he played his nuts off! And you can quote me on that shit!" -Bud Foster

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He's no good to me dead.

If this doesn't become someone's default image I'll be disappointed

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

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This is TKP. It is a mathematical and scientific impossibility to do that here. Oh and Sketch, dude we have got to get you to 1k legs. Long overdue bro.

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Wow never been more pumped for this season! I hope he picks up the offense fairly quickly! I miss having excitement during the game when our offense walks on. The last few seasons I would panic when we were on offense. Here is to a new era!

-Semper Primus

The minor flaws in Michael Brewer's game such as taking sacks can be fixed by Scot Loeffler. I like the fact that Michael takes good care of the ball because turnovers kill momentum.

Allen Ox

It is no surprise they are expecting the guy with game experience to win the job. I doubt he would transfer here without the assurance he was likely going to win the job. I am excited for a QB who can just try and do his job and let the other guys do theirs.

"I'm too drunk to taste this chicken" - Colonel Sanders via Ricky Bobby

The transformation our Athletic Dept is currently undergoing is nearly making my head spin.

This time 2 years ago we had a football team with an offense that was, for lack of a better word, hopeless, with the recruiting well having dried up and seemingly no light at the end of the tunnel with a football coach having dug his heels in to keep his guys on staff, and an Athletic Director who was powerless to influence change. We also had a basketball program very much in the process of digging its own grave having just canned the most successful coach its had in the previous 2 decades over a month after the end of the NCAA Tournament and replacing him with a newbie of a coach who had no prior experience, watching a promising recruiting class vaporize and seeing some of our best young talent transfer.

Flash forward to now. We have a football program where we're actually legitimately getting excited over how good our offense can be while looking at a roster that is becoming loaded with talent at WR, QB, and RB, with a potential once in a decade talent at TE (if he's as good as people are making him out to be, Bucky will be one of the better TEs to ever play in the ACC) and a developing stable of talent at OL that is getting legitimate top notch coaching. Oh, and on basketball, we only hired one of the best coaches in the country from a name program paying him a salary we didn't think possible, who is putting together a staff that has elite recruiting backgrounds from various previous locations, and is already set to pull in a Top 30 recruiting class a month into his coaching tenure.

I'm not going to sugar coat this. If you told me that we were going to be in this kind of situation in the spring of 2014 back in 2012, I would have laughed in your face. Not even in my most orange and maroon goggled best case scenario would I have thought things would have been this good. These are exciting times, and I just hope everyone is taking a step back to appreciate just what is going on.

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

#Whitness

You don't even have to go back to 2012. Just think back a mere 3 1/2 months ago to when Jeff Grimes left for LSU and the walls were caving in on VT athletics

Since then:

Whit Babcock hired
Timothy Sands named new President (ok, actually happened in Dec '12...)
Stacey Searels hired to replace Grimes
Michael Brewer transfers to VT (w/ TWO years remaining)
James Johnson dismissed
Buzz Williams hired
Two desired BB recruits follow BW...VT BB '14 class jumps to top 25
Bucky Hodges grows to 9'17"
Hokie Respect to be downsized & Stick It In upsized

What have I missed?

I think you underestimated Bucky's height. Last I heard he was 10'10".

If you'd have told me all this in January 2014...I'd still have laughed in your face. So much has changed in the past few months and no one has even taken the field/court yet. I'm beyond excited to see where were are come September.

He's no good to me dead.

I sincerely hope that all these changes are for the better. But, we still need to win games.

Heard the same and would add VT could be a rapidly improving team over next 1-2 years . Recruiting improved when Shane came on board , then the offensive coaches hired and we changed by getting more guys recruiting. It may not show up in the so called recruiting rankings but the talent is way up in the last 3 years . Given now the players have a full year under the new offense they will be much more instinctive and play much faster, playing to their potential . Just look at the TE spot and where we were last year when Malleck got hurt . Now look at that spot a year latter it will be a tough matchup if we get someone who can get the ball to them . Same for the OL , WR and RB spots . With the depth in the secondary and some new talent coming in like Fisher special teams will be much better positioned with talent to excell . Although we have our questions our schedule is not very strong and if you look at our opponents they have issues as well . Miami and UNC still filtering sholarship restrictions and everyone replacing the QB . If Brewer is good then we could surprise because I think Bud has the defense ready to be in the same class as last years group .

Coastal 1

I keep coming back to this thread; it pumps me up every time. I just pounded a cup of coffee while reading the latest comments and I want to punch through a wall I'm so jacked up.

Even if Brewer isn't awesome, which is indeed a possibility, he only needs to be better than what we have for next season to be a step forward. The overall team is much better than what we've had the last two years, and 10 wins is attainable with just solid QB play. On the other hand, if he IS awesome, 10 wins instantly becomes a minimum goal, along with the Coastal title, and a bowl win. Just a biased opinion from a VT homer.

I'm with you...i think we could very well have a special year in 2014.

“I hope that they’re not going to have big eyes and pee down their legs so to speak,” -- Bud Foster

@CraigThompsonVT

Wow! I bet all this optimism is giving the guys at hokiehaven, TSL, and vtscoop migraines. Nobody has mentioned negative recruiting, firing Charlie Wiles, or Beamer's age. I must've wandered into my Narnia cupboard again.

"I'll put a quote here to distract you from my inane comment."-Me

do people wanna fire Charlie Wiles?

"That kid you're talking to right there, I think he played his nuts off! And you can quote me on that shit!" -Bud Foster

Unfortunately it has been mentioned. Usually on the lines of: "Nice guy, decent coach, nobody wants to play for him, can't recruit guys like Nnadi, Dashawn Hand, etc."

"I'll put a quote here to distract you from my inane comment."-Me

Really? First I'm hearing of that. He's always seemed like a guy his players respect and enjoy playing for. I can see how he might not be the "flashiest" guy or anything, but he's a heck of a D-line coach.

Oh, I agree fully. This is Chicken Little talk at its finest. I will say I've always seen people get called out for it though. If you don't have one already, spring for a subscription to one of the pay sites next time we miss on a big dl recruit.

"I'll put a quote here to distract you from my inane comment."-Me

I'm on 247 and TSL, I see my fair share. Saw one dude (can't remember if it was 247 or a Bitter commenter) who said Shane was responsible for the downturn in recruiting and once we fired him, things would be all better. That guy could have said literally any other name on the coaching staff (besides Gray or possibly Moorehead), including Frank himself, and had a better case. But anyways, my point is that stupid abounds on the internet and there's little we can do about it besides laugh, point out the obvious, and move on with our lives.

And this is why this site is the best open forum on the net. Not just the best Hokies site, the best period. There are a core group of posters on here that are respectful enough to keep things civil when disagreements arise. The sheer lunacy on the other hokies boards ruins my day every time I venture onto them. It's a shame too since vtscoop has a lot of very knowledgeable, respectful posters. The haven on the other hand is like reading the script to an even more dystopic version of Mad Max.

"I'll put a quote here to distract you from my inane comment."-Me

Honestly? I wouldn't want anyone else coaching Bud Foster's D Line. Where are people saying this??
Oh... TSL, HokieHaven, ESPNACC... Right. I don't go to those sites any moar

What's Important Now
The Lunchpail.
The Hammer.
BeamerBall.

MOAR! MOAR!

Edit: double post

What's Important Now
The Lunchpail.
The Hammer.
BeamerBall.

I love the optimism but let's not book trips to Charlotte yet, solely based on potential for this year. I think we are taking steps back at QB and OL and overall on defense (compared to last year) while we hope to improve upon down years at RB and WR.

At QB - I hope Brewer is the real deal but he seems to be getting the same reviews that Leal got last Oct / Nov. If he can manage the offense, reduce turnovers and keep defenses honest with an occasional deep ball, that will be the difference between 7 and 10 wins. I'm concerned that historically Tech hasn't faired well without a "running / dual threat" QB. There is a difference between mobile and running QB.

At RB - hope Edmounds comes back the same way he left and keeps improving but a lot to expect from a broken leg. Still haven't seen anyone showcase the talent that Wilson or RMFW did as a freshman - we have a good stable but haven't seen the workhorse / game breaker.

At WR - keep getting better, but who is the #1 guy. Standford seems more like a stong #2 to go over the middle and get the 1st - he needs an outside partner to stretch defenses and make plays - hopefully Parker or a freshman can step up - else it may look very similar to last year.

OL - I think we have to expect a learning curve with the new coaches / systems.

TE - feel good about Malleck and Kline with Hodges as the upside.

Defense - a lot of new spots to fill and unproven depth. In Bud we trust but there was a reason that Dadi, Williams, Clark, etc. were not 1st team starters last year. They need to elevate their game and learning curve to backfill for Gayle, Tyler, et. all. Hope we can hold serve in Sept / Oct until Bud gets them full tilt like he does every year.

Not trying to throw water on the enthusiasm but lots of questions for this year. Note, all of those areas should have returning starters next year and I would expect a real push in 2015 as well.

Reading this post after reading lizardking's before this one is comically coincidental

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I agree with a lot of this.

The big thing will be the OL. Can they take a big step this fall? I honestly don't know.

I expect the WRs to be better, and some of these freshman could really push for playing time once they arrive.

Hopefully Edmunds will be good to go. I think M. Williams will be #2 RB.

I'm not too worried about the defense. We have great depth in the secondary, and I think the LBs will be fine. If we stay healthy on the DL, it should be good.

Agree on WR- someone has to be able to win jump balls, stretch the field and take short routes and make plays.
Also on D- yes, trust bud but also remember (in his words) the 'cluster' that was 2012 defense before it got tweaked.
QB- Brewer and Motley are far quicker and have more burst than Logan so a running threat at QB does not worry me. I think Brewer is far more accurate than Logan (better footwork) and throws a more accurate deep ball.
RB- studs abound... its all about the gelling of the OL IMHO

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but the man worthwhile, is the man who can smile, when his shorts are too tight in the seat'

When does Brewer show up? Is it as soon as spring semester is over?

Also, can he talk with coaches and review the playbook at this time? I'm not sure how transfers work with NCAA violations.

he'll be here at the end of the month when classes for summer session I start. i'm pretty sure he's had a playbook for months now (correct me if I'm wrong anyone) but coaches can't be coaching him

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5 years, 2 degrees, 33 football games as a student, and 2 Cassell court stormings later, I bleed Maroon and Orange

SL has said in interviews that he was able to give him the playbook so hopefully he is studying it.

“I hope that they’re not going to have big eyes and pee down their legs so to speak,” -- Bud Foster

There's a rule now that coaches have a set amount of hours that they can have classroom instructional meetings with positional groups over the summer so that should help out Brewer.

To paraphrase Winston Wolf, Let's not start Chunging each other's Wang just yet gentlemen.

winston wolf

I'm stationed in Vegas. At the sports books they have VT as 100-1 odds to win the national title. I'm betting a $100 that they do....

There are wolves and there are sheep, I am the sheep dog

Sounds like a great play. Obviously the odds should be long, and you are most likely throwing away 100 bucks.

But there a lot of worse ways to blow 100 bucks.

For instance: You could buy 100 scalped tickets to any UVA game where they don't play the Hokies. Even if your plan is to use one to go to the game, sit behind the Hoo bench, and with the remaining 99 tickets "Make it Rain" on whatever dignity that wasn't beaten out of them making snow-angels during practice, those tickets would still just make your pocket smell of flop sweat, stale donuts and despair.

And that smell just doesn't wash out with oxy-clean.

Interesting ticket sidelight....many LOLUVA fans purchase multiple tickets. They use them in this manner: Arrive, enter stadium (mid-first quarter, from Zima-infused tailgate). Just before halftime, exit stadium, return to tailgate, consume Zima. Mid-third quarter, use second ticket (No re-entry, you know) to enter game again. With no less than 10 minutes left in the game, exit, return to tailgate, consume more Zima. After the game, wander up to gate, ask security what the final score was. Return to tailgate, consume more Zima.

Take the shortest route to the ball and arrive in bad humor.

I don't know a single LOLUVA fan that can drink that much.

We put the K in Kwality

I thought wahoos could drink up to twice their weight daily?

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The fish...yes. The central virginia mistake...no. They typically chug one zima and then throw up in the bidet and complain about their bow tie getting spots on it.

We put the K in Kwality

Did someone say Zima?

need to drop some jolly ranchers in there for full flavor

"That kid you're talking to right there, I think he played his nuts off! And you can quote me on that shit!" -Bud Foster

you know far too much about Zima

I know a lot of women who can consume large quantities of shitty drinks

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

And here's where I chime in with my "I know two women who consume large quantities of shit" 2 girls 1 cup reference.
Neck
Moo

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Here's a full list from Vegas-Insider with odds from sportsbook.ag. According to Vegas Insider, VT is 200-1, good for 37th most likely to win the Natty.

Of note:
1. FSU 5-1
4. OSU 12-1
22. Clemson 65-1
22. ND 65-1
29. Miami 100-1
29. UNC 100-1
37. VT 200-1
40. Louisville 300-1
40. Duke 300-1
44. Georgia Tech 400-1
44. Pitt 400-1

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Is there a number high enough to place on UVA's odds of winning it? I would imagine it would like something like:

7.5628287332455111 x 10^23 : 1

1:0 would actually do it. Lets be honest, it just doesn't exist

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I wonder what Brewer's fave bruski is...

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lol

"I'm high on Juice and ready to stick it in!" Whit Babcock

Can we find something a little closer to beer and a little farther from pisswater?

Snap

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Here's a hint.
If the label says it is Premium Quality Beer, odds are it's not.
If it comes in an 11 oz can, it probably sucks.
If one of the most prominent features of the label is 4%...

If it's all these, feel free to buy large quantities for your enemies.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

I agree but, if that's the thing that is most prominent on the label, it remains that there's not much else to crow about. That combination of 11 oz, Premium Quality Beer AND the declaration of low % = Sex In a Canoe.

Low alcohol beer is the correct choice for many reasons and many situations and I absolutely will not knock someone for selecting a low % and will back them up to anyone that gives them crap about it.

That having been said, I prefer one that tastes good first, then select one that's low alcohol.
I brew one that's low alcohol and it's quite popular but, I don't need to feature low % as it's primary attribute.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

Oh, I agree. I just thought it was interesting. I'd never actually heard of 3.2 before. I'm still of an age where I'm looking for a big beer (I'm looking at you Duvel), but my Dad (who I got the link from) definitely sounds like the author. I suppose it's not an option you appreciate having until you want it.

The Duchesse is in an 11 oz bottle... It's delicious though.
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Mmmmmmmmmmmmm. Flanders Red.

*drools*

"Nope, launch him into the sun and fart on him on the way up"
-gobble gobble chumps

"11-0, bro"
-Hunter Carpenter (probably)

There's a huge difference between a European brewed high quality Flanders Red and a cheap 11 oz Sugar water masquerading as a beer. D you guys not read all the criteria?

This is going to be great for the ACC.

This is my new favorite beer. It is amazing. I didn't know anyone else knew about it.

I first had it a couple years ago on tap at Capitol Ale House in Harrisonburg.
I get it on tap locally in Roanoke at Blue 5.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

Is this or is it not available in the Blacksburg Kroger (either one)? If not, I'm heading to Roanoke.

Try Vintage Cellar. They list it as in their inventory online.

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Excellent. I'm quite a fan of the vintage cellar.

I love how this thread turned into a commentary about alkyhol.

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they used to get big smiles on their faces when me and my buddies walked in.

"That kid you're talking to right there, I think he played his nuts off! And you can quote me on that shit!" -Bud Foster

The Cellar downtown has it as well.