Virginia Tech Shows Glimmers of Offensive Improvement Against Duke

Scot Loeffler game planned some well conceived wrinkles to jumpstart Tech's running game.

Virginia Tech running back J.C. Coleman (4) cuts around the edge while being pursued by a Duke defender. [Michael Shroyer]

After weeks of frustration surrounding the inability of the offense to generate any kind of sustained running game, Scot Loeffler's offense finally opened some holes in a 17-16 defeat of the Duke Blue Devils. Loeffler used a familiar formula, but a strategy that hasn't been used much since the victory over Virginia last season. Tech attacked the edge with the offensive line in space. Loeffler called lots of counter-action, and incorporated some trick elements to help mix up Duke's defense.

At the same time, it wasn't perfect. Pass protection was even more atrocious than normal. Penalties again derailed several critical drives that could have given the Hokies some wiggle room. Michael Brewer went through stretches where any kind of blitz seemed to make him blind to any openings down field, so much so that many openly discussed (myself included) if it was time to play Brenden Motley every down. Things are a work in progress, but behind a mix of a rejuvenated J.C. Coleman, a suddenly more assertive Brewer, some trickery from Motley, and the continuing emergence of two potential superstar playmakers in Bucky Hodges and Isaiah Ford, the Hokies were able to pick up their second road win over a top-20 team this season.

Return of the Outside Zone Sweep

In retrospect, the best performance all season by a Hokie running back in 2013 was Trey Edmunds breakout performance against the Miami Hurricanes. In that game, Loeffler featured a version of the outside zone read where multiple linemen pulled, while the H-Back and play side linemen blocked down. The Hokies had some similar success in a limited fashion against Georgia Tech this season. The outside zone sweep is effective because defensive linemen are taught to key the first step of a zone blocking offensive line and move that direction—the old adage "the lineman will take you to the football." After establishing the inside zone read, a defensive line will often slant away from plays that are down-blocked, so sweeps and counters can be very effective. Boston College used the same concept to cross up the Hokies defense last week.

As I noted in my preview, it was absolutely critical for the Hokies to force those run-stopping, creeping Duke defensive backs to take on blocks rather than running down plays from the back side. Loeffler used the sweep concept, and a hyper-aggressive offensive line that looked eager to get the shackles off, to reinvigorate J.C. Coleman's Hokie career. Let's take a look.

Here is the first play with Coleman in the backfield. The Hokies align with Ryan Malleck as the tight end, Bucky Hodges in the slot, and Cam Phillips to the boundary. Brewer jet motions Phillips across the formation and then hands the ball off to Coleman on the outside zone read sweeping to the right.

Note the blocking at the point of attack first. Bucky Hodges cracks down on the left inside linebacker. Malleck and Wade Hansen execute a pin and pull, with Malleck blocking down on the defensive end and Hansen pulling out and plowing over the unfortunate corner. Caleb Farris ties up the defensive tackle. David Wang and Wyatt Teller both pull and turn up around the edge. Laurence Gibson lays out to cut off any penetration through Teller's space. Wang heads to the cover 2 safety and gets a little piece, but Teller de-cleats Duke's outstanding middle linebacker David Helton. On tape, you wince when you hear the contact. To add insult to injury, Teller sends Helton flying over Hodges in a vaudevillian pratfall. Coleman, unlike some of his previous outings, attacks the hole with conviction and finishes assertively instead of losing forward momentum by trying to avoid contact. While this isn't a new concept, everything looks fast and aggressive, from the blocking to the running by Coleman.

Loeffler feasted on the outside zone off the right side to try to settle the offense down after a slow start. The offensive line continued to create space, and Coleman continued to exploit it.

Here is the exact same play, minus the jet sweep motion from the boundary. Again we have great down blocks by Hodges, Malleck, and this time Augie Conte. This time the safety recognizes the formation and attacks the edge to take away the sweep, but Hansen finds him and drives him into the sideline. Wang and Teller lead through, with Teller again bouncing Helton almost 10 yards down field. Helton keeps his feet, so Teller adjusts to help Conte pancake the defensive lineman that Conte got great push on. The key to the play is Wang. On the previous clip, Wang didn't get much of the corner. This time, he launches his frame into the corner and takes him out of the play. Not surprisingly, Coleman aggressively exploits the big hole. Wang's block took a 6-yard run and turned it into an 11-yard one.

Most of Coleman's carries came on some variation of the sweep with the exception of the disastrous fourth-and-one until late in the third quarter. Honestly, as effective as it was, I would have liked to have seen Loeffler exploit the Duke edge even more.

The Case of Motley vs Brewer

As I noted, many Hokies were calling for Brenden Motley to replace Brewer during an ugly stretch in the third quarter where Brewer took sack after sack and seemed incapable of avoiding pass rush or finding his receivers down field. The call had some merit, as Motley had tremendous success in limited action as a Wild Turkey quarterback. But, the Wild Turkey was more than just an inverted veer where everyone on the field knows the quarterback is keeping. Let's see how Loeffler put Motley in position to have success.

First, do you realize that on Motley's first snap, Deon Newsome got the carry? That is right, on the first snap, Motley read the Blue Devil defensive end crashing inside against the inverted veer. Motley made the correct read and handed the ball to Newsome.

Malleck veer releases to option stalk the safety, again forcing Duke's best players in space to muck it up against blocking. Behind Malleck, Wyatt Teller comes rampaging through from his left guard spot. Even though Teller doesn't really engage anyone, his aggressiveness seems to open up space; nobody is eager to get in his path. Isaiah Ford, who has struggled with blocking at times, does a strong job of getting up field and then stalk blocking the corner. Newsome gets a nice gain.

On the next play, Motley got a big run on the same quarterback counter with an outside zone fake that Boston College tortured the Hokies with last season. It wasn't beautifully executed, but Motley ran over a Duke defensive back in the hole for a big gain down the right sideline.

On the next series, Motley showed another element to the Wild Turkey. On this play, Motley faked a screen, perhaps one packaged with the play to the left slot.

Deon Newsome, again at halfback, gets a nasty kick out pancake block on the Duke corner. Teller pulls and turns up, and Malleck trails him to lead through the hole and throw a nasty cut block on the Duke linebacker. Motley again does his speedy Logan Thomas impersonation and gets a big gain.

With Brewer struggling, and Motley being so effective, it certainly makes the creative offensive mind ponder the possibilities of Motley as a threat to keep the ball on inside and outside zone reads. Brewer has not kept the ball much this season, but Duke's over pursuit on inside zone reads left some big yards on the table for Brewer. Brewer correctly reads the defensive end crashing, keeps and picks up an easy 12 yards.

With Motley's size and speed, any defense that crashes their end or tries to cover the quarterback with a scrape exchange on read plays would have their hands full with Motley. So, with Brewer struggling mightily, why didn't Loeffler make the switch.

To make a rational analysis, I have to go by my own evaluation of Motley as the top quarterback in the spring. Motley demonstrated a strong arm and some athleticism, but he had issues with accuracy all spring long. In the final spring scrimmage and in the spring game, Motley had Bucky Hodges wide open on seam routes for easy touchdowns, and both times overthrew Hodges badly.

The fact is that as well as Coleman, Motley and the running game were working, the best playmakers on the field are Isaiah Ford and Bucky Hodges. As an offensive coordinator, you have to know that if you make a quarterback change, the new starter has to have the ability to put the football in places where Hodges and Ford can make plays. While Motley may have boosted the running game, his inconsistency passing in the spring could certainly give pause when it comes to incorporating the downfield threats.

Brewer got his opportunity for redemption after the Blue Devils fumbled a kickoff return. After cowering in the face of pressure in the third quarter, Brewer stood tall in the pocket and looked to his big tight end to make a play. And Hodges didn't disappoint. First, with major heat in his face, Brewer found Hodges on a corner route against man coverage to set up first and goal. After a Wyatt Teller penalty seemed to derail a prime scoring opportunity, Brewer again found Hodges.

Everything comes together here. The offensive line protects Brewer. The route concept pulls the free safety away from Hodges. And, unlike Motley in the spring, Brewer delivers an accurate ball. Loeffler's decision to not switch quarterbacks paid off.

While the announcers salivated over the play design, perhaps the most impressive trait isn't the design but the nuance of the route running by Hodges. Hodges has to run a post route. He sees Jeremy Cash, an All-ACC and second-team All-American, playing outside leverage coverage. Hodges knows that Cash cannot let Hodges beat him to the corner. So, instead of running a straight line and then cutting to the post, Hodges bends his route into Cash's body to threaten his outside leverage. Cash has to back pedal because he has no help to the inside. As Hodges gets into his body, he is moving forward while Cash is backpedaling. When Hodges then bends back to the inside, he is still going forward, while Cash has to plant, change direction, and close. This subtle nuance creates about two steps of space without Hodges pushing off. It also creates even more distance between Hodges and the free safety to the inside, which presents an even bigger window for Brewer to throw into. This is spectacular route running and something we didn't see from Hodges earlier in this season. This is an NFL-caliber route, and it looks like Bucky's time and work with Aaron Moorehead is paying off.

Can't Have Sweet Without the Sour: Pass Protection

While the offensive line had a very good day run blocking, the pass protection was abysmal. Part of that was Brewer not getting rid of the football (even with two safety valves open underneath the coverage).

But, the major bugaboo is still blitz pickups. The offensive line at times looked lost in setting protections. Some players occupied zones and handed off pass rushers who exited their zone, while others chased stunting defenders like a lab chasing a tennis ball, which allowed a defender through the vacated space. The running backs are not effectively picking up the correct blitzer, and Brewer doesn't seem to identify the blitz and audible to a hot route behind the blitz. It is a perfect storm right now, made worse by some technique errors by both Hansen and Teller.

Duke sends their mike linebacker along with a safety through the left guard area. Wang picks up the linebacker, and Teller, as he should with the center, bumps Wang's man. But, Teller makes a cardinal mistake. Instead of punching the outside shoulder of the linebacker with his right hand and staying in position to pick up any delayed stunts, Teller steps hard inside and throws a shoulder into the linebacker. By doing so, his momentum now is sucked to the inside, and he has opened up a lane for Cash to blitz through. Teller is so incredibly strong that his punch will be very effective. He has to maintain discipline and trust his technique to prevent these types of breakdowns.

The Road to a Bowl goes through Wake Forest

The debate has raged here about 2014 being a lost season, but with so many young players, it is paramount to get to a bowl game and get those extra 15 practices to continue the upward trajectory of the guys who can contribute next season. A win next week in Winston-Salem gives the coaching staff that extra practice time to continue the development of their young talent and continue to build continuity on the offensive line. A bowl game itself doesn't mean much besides a showcase to improve the program's reputation, but those practices can make or break the following season.

It won't be easy. Wake has not had a good season, but they are a good defensive team and has been competitive in most of its losses. A jitterbug, blitzing defense that brings corners, safeties, and linebackers from all over the field has kept them in games. The Deacons have seven players that have more than 5.0 tackles for a loss, and most are defensive backs. They are going to move guys around and try to confuse the blocking assignments up front. Duke was very static with their front-four. However, Wake can't run or stop the run; advantage Hokies. Persistence and execution in the running game will lead to big plays, and that should open up things downfield for Brewer's young playmakers.

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On that first clip, it is a joy to watch Teller.
He pulls and is like a missile exploding on impact on the LB-knocking him backwards.
And then, Wyatt gains his feet and jumps back on Helton while he is in the fetal position.
If I was Helton, I'd be like 'what'd I ever do to you?!'

Great stuff, French. This is why I love your analyses-you point out where the real action is to those of us brainwashed to just watch the running back.

anyone who has instagram i suggest you go check out @whatitdudebruh (laurence gibson) IG page and the MAN HANDLE of a BLOCK he put on dukes DE!!!! OMG!!!! its nasty!!!!!!

work computer wont allow me to post the video sorry. maybe someone else can?

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It is worth the watch. #Ragdolled

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Nasty.

My favorite comment on there: "You will sit over here now."

thanks!

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I like Sam Rogers reaction. He came around the corner and looked down at the guy like he was saying "You just got schooled, son." He also looked kind of surprised like he was wondering who he was supposed to block now, because Gibson was blocking the whole team.

There is nothing in the world like Thursday night in Blacksburg!

Even with his mistakes, Teller's aggression and down right 'Nasty-ness' jump off the page and fill me with optimism. Seeing him flatten a linebacker then jump on him just make me giddy!

It's like every boxing movie ever made, when the hero is flat on his face and his manager is yelling, "Stay down! Stay down!" but he gets back up. And then goes down. To stay.

"Our job as coaches is to influence young people's lives for the better in terms of fundamental skills, work ethic, and doing the right thing. Every now and again, a player actually has that effect on the coaching staff." Justin Fuente on Sam Rogers

Good lord, who put what in Teller's undershorts to make him that pissed off.
That guy is going to be trouble for defenses right there.

Not enough superlatives for when he gets solid contact.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

who put what in Teller's undershorts to make him that pissed off.

Hilarious. Saving this and using it later, thanks very much.

I love the Hodges touchdown. Itt seems like by the play design, either Malleck or Hodges were almost guaranteed to be open depending on which one the safety decided to play (as long as Bucky ran such a dynamite route as he did).

Good stuff, French.

I have to state this again, because it can't be said enough: JCC looked really good out there with the ball. This is the Coleman we hoped to see more of before those first brutal ankle injuries. If he continues this kind of play, it's going to give us a lot more breathing room to allow for Shai & Juice to fully recover. Just a great Hokie, and I couldn't be happier for him.

I'd like to get a better feel for Hansen's performance. It seemed to me that he started off horribly, but showed improvement as the game progressed.

Is this so, or did Loeffler make some changes to account for that initial weakness?

Yeah, Coleman was a man alive Saturday and I was very happy to see it.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

OL is encouraging for future, especially with new recruits coming in. Teller is a beast!

Beast, indeed. Here is a ground level frame of Teller coming around the edge:
lion teller
"I'm putting you down, and you will stay down"

A picture is worth a thousand words. A gif is worth a million.

Agreed!

On the couple of sacks, where it looks like Brewer held on the to ball too long, is there an angle to show the receivers routes on the play? Just to see if he wasnt able to locate an open receiver or if no one got open

I wonder if that is a reflection of an emphasis on Brewer to not throw interceptions.

A lot of it just comes down to showing awareness of the game situation. He's not going to see everything but sacks like the one right before half are just inexcusable. Duke brings the house and he had to have a few man on man matchups downfield. With the time on the clock, just throw it up and let your guys try to make a play. An INT doesn't hurt any more than the sack that he took.

Sacks are going to happen to everyone not name Peyton Manning but Brewer needs to avoid the couple of bone headed sacks he's taken each game this year.

16 was open on the first one. don't know how much running room there is but he is open for at least 5 yards or so. it was 2nd and 16 with an open receiver, time to throw, and he took a sack.

on the second video he has less time but when he looks left, the ultimate tackler and Hodges are in the same visual window and the tackler is 5 yards away. you can't tell if Bucky is open but it is 3rd and 10 and unless there are 2 defenders there, there is a correct-shoulder throw to made toward the sideline with a chance for a first down. if there are 2 defenders there, he can throw it away and we punt without giving up the yardage

sensing the lack of time and firing the ball in rhythm to the right spot (or a throw away in the same direction) has to be automatic...and right now it isn't. if the pass blocking sucks, the QB has to know where the quick throw is every time. maybe that is even the first read. the second read becomes the longer pass if time is unexpectedly available.

Carlis Parker (huh?) was open on the first one. We saw very little of Willie Byrn and no targets when he was in on Saturday. I found that strange, especially on some of the 3rd and 3-5 type plays where he has been so good.

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We saw very little of Willie Byrn

I've been meaning to ask about that. Was Duke doing a particularly good job covering Willie? Was there something about their defensive scheme that took him out of the play every time?

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Mike Barber wrote a pretty good article about Byrn's diminished role.

Basically, he's just not as high on the depth chart as he once was, especially now that Stanford's back. Also, we ran a lot of 2 TE sets against Duke. So with only 2 receivers on the field, and with Ford, Phillips, and Stanford to compete with for snaps, there just wasn't a lot of opportunities for him.

Not the bagman VT deserves, but the bagman VT needs right now.

Great writeup as always, French. I noticed in that last clip that Hansen made the same mistake on the right side that Teller made on the left. Once he committed inside, the guy who actually made the sack blew by on the outside. You can see the unblocked guy and open lane in the still before you hit play.

If either one of them had made the stop, Brewer might have been able to scramble free, but with blitzers breaking through on both sides, there was no hope.

Good stuff. We saw some improvements in some areas. A few followup questions:
1. JCC has had two good games in his career, both against Duke. You said their front four was static in their pressures, is there something else they do that lends itself to JCC being successful?
2. My first thought after reading how bad we are at blitz pickups is Jon Tenuta's defense. Is he still the mad blitzer he has always been?
3. One issue that was not touched on but I wonder how much it limits our offense is the obsession with substitutions. It seemed a few times, JCC had a good run and was immediately removed from the game. I noticed on the 1st and Goal play after DiNardo's interception we ran three straight plays without Bucky Hodges on the field. If Loeffler was a doctor, that would be grounds for malpractice. So....substitution patterns: helping or hurting?

They were static in their run defense. On almost every play. The down linemen eat up blocks. The linebackers move laterally, and two defenders come from the secondary as support. The only thing Duke changed up was which players were coming from the secondary, but you knew that they were going to be there waiting on the edge. When Hansen lead, he turns and finds the first blue uniform he sees and runs over them. It is much less "mental" than pass protection.

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Wyatt. Teller.

And there were more. Many many more. The OZ was really going on Saturday. Honestly we should have seen more of it.

Wyatt still has his freshman moments. He still tries to wind up and deliver a blow (which results in his hands going wide, hence the holding calls.) From time to time, he will throw shoulders at guys when he can bench press the moon. He gets caught out of position trying to help his center or tackle in pass pro. That timing, patience, and technique will come.

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I did notice a pass play where Teller didn't have anyone to block and he spun around and took out the defender who was beating Gibson to Brewer's blindside. Turned what may have been a sack-fumble into a nice gain downfield. I'm really excited to see him develop.

He did it in the Duke15 video above, but Brewer still got sacked.

Reality has a mighty pimp hand.

Thanks for pointing that out; I missed it the first time. Also is it just me or does Teller remind of you this after obliterating and then subsequently ensuring his prey stays down?

"We judge ourselves by our intentions and others by their behavior" Stephen M.R. Covey

“When life knocks you down plan to land on your back, because if you can look up, you can get up, if you fall flat on your face it can kill your spirit” David Wilson

His ferocity in the Duke15 vid reminds me of this Cyrus Kouandjio gem:

Thwack

Reality has a mighty pimp hand.

Wyatt has a ton of upside, if he can continue to learn the position he will be playing on Sundays! That boy is a beast!

I love how Wyatt and Bucky are so good at their respective positions without really even knowing how to play those positions.

Well to be honest, Hodges has learned a lot from game 1 until now.
It is showing up in his increasing pass receptions per game.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

Great write up as always French. I love reading your insights, but....

THIS!!!!!

"The debate has raged here about 2014 being a lost season, but with so many young players, it is paramount to get to a bowl game and get those extra 15 practices to continue the upward trajectory of the guys who can contribute next season."

For everyone who thinks that the season is lost, so why worry about some 3rd rate bowl game... Those extra practices are like having a "Winter Training" that sets up a more productive Spring Football season. With all of the Frosh and Sophs who are playing on both sides of the ball, those practices are very important and could be a good springboard into a great 2015 season.

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Great write up...what a big win that was! Sometimes you forgot how hard it actually is to get a win this one felt good. Just wanted to say I thought Wade Hansen struggled mightily in his first start I felt bad for him as he looked lost at times not blocking anyone...he will get better though happy we won his first start. Also hearts out to Marshawn, I wonder when him and Shai will be 100% again. I assume Trey and JCC will start off the 2015 season assuming they are healthy.

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Not that I am an expert but I thought Wade Hansen looks good for the future.

He needs to improve pass protection because he's a liability there. If that comes over the offseason, he might be the starter at right tackle next season.

Stop Joe. You might actually make me think that VT will have ***gasp*** O-Line depth next year.

Tweedy can run like a dadgum antelope or whatever. I like to use scalded dog. Do antelopes lumber? Cheetah, OK. He runs like a cheetah. He's fast. - Bud Foster

I remember a couple plays early where he looked in his own head and let his guy through for a sack and a TFL on Marshawn, but he did show promise at times. Excited for the future as I've been in a long time.

That inside zone to Marshawn was an interesting play. Duke's DE stunted inside, and it looked like Hansen stunted outside. The right guard (I think it was Farris, but I am not sure) doubled down on the defensive tackle instead of chipping him while stepping to his left. Either Hansen should have been man-blocking the end, or the right guard busted on the assignment and it made Hansen look bad. However, if either could have just gotten a little piece of the end, there was nobody to find Williams if he bounced outside.

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It seems that the offensive line is blocking with more intensity now and we may get trey edmunds back here soon. The combination of those will hopefully lead us to victory the next two weeks.

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All Maroon everything

I said often about the run blocking that everything up front LOOKED SLOW. Snap count, getting off the ball, feet... everything looked like they were pass blocking on run plays. That improved significantly this week.

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Well said. Couldn't agree more.

Leg for your screen name.

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As good as JC looked Saturday, I'm really excited to see what this offense can do with a back who's capable of really punishing a defense who gets blocked. We saw last year what a healthy Edmunds can do on the OZ (the UVA game was turning into a Edmunds blood bath before he got hurt), if he gets healthy in time for UVA and the Oline blocks as well as they did Saturday... I like our chances.

I'm writing this as I read it so here's my thoughts:

1. Running the ball is about attitude and imposing your will on the defender. There's some real attitude going on with this offensive line that NEEDS to continue going into WF and certainly UVA. d00k doesn't exactly have a stifiling run defense so the OL needs to keep this momentum up in practice this week and pulverize Wake Forest.

2. Brewer needs to be careful to not fall onto his throwing shoulder. He's got that Johnny Manziel Texas-Gunslinger mentality in him that could get him into trouble in the future.

3. Hopefully Searels can emphasize pass protection fundamentals like you detailed here, French. There's a lot of talent in this group, but it has to be honed in which technique and discipline.

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Deon Newsome, again at halfback, gets a nasty kick out pancake block on the Duke corner.

To be fair, French, it looked nasty because Newsome wraps his arms around the legs of the corner, and "tackles" him. Should have been a flag.

@CraigThompsonVT

If they don't call it, it isn't cheating.

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UNC's compliance policy

If it's not called a "Class", then you can't cheat in "Class"?

Tweedy can run like a dadgum antelope or whatever. I like to use scalded dog. Do antelopes lumber? Cheetah, OK. He runs like a cheetah. He's fast. - Bud Foster

I'm pretty sure I can watch Wyatt Teller run block all day. That is a big man who's not looking for someone he can block, he's looking for someone he can demolish. And after he's done that, he's already looking for the next guy. That's offensive line with an attitude, how it should be played!

I think it was HOF lineman Russ Grimm (Washington) who said something to the effect of "There's no greater feeling than taking a man and moving him from point A to point B against his will"

There's always a lighthouse. There's always a man. There's always a city.

BEAT WAKE!

Teller's thoughts: BURY WAKE!

French (or anyone more familiar than I am with these things), do you think Teller's having an All-ACC type of season, or will his mental/technique lapses in pass protection keep him off of any postseason honors lists?

I'm wondering if he has seen enough playing time to warrant consideration.

No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

We don't love dem Hoos.

French,

You mention Motley's liability is his accuracy. With Brewer's being his blitz identification/awareness, do you have any thoughts/film on Motley against the blitz? It seems perhaps that just having someone that can identify the blitz and get the ball to the space vacated by said blitz would do wonders for us sustaining drives, even if it limits our ability to go downfield effectively.

I'ma hang up an lissen.

I was thinking just make Motley into Nick Marshall. Run.... a lot. Pass when someone is wide open. Throw jump balls to Coates (errr....Bucky).

And as a correlate to this, is Motley's inaccuracy something that can be fixed or is it simply a talent issue? The spring game clip you showed of Motley over throwing Bucky (somehow he over threw an 9'11" manbear), is that a function of poor technique or is that maybe just jitters from being too excited on that play?

Motley is a local kid from Christiansburg HS where they rarely passed the ball. They were state champs under Motley but most of it can from a ground game. I think I remember hearing that they would only pass the ball 4-7 times game.

So really who knows, it could be that he can't throw and they based their offense around his ability to run the ball and run the option, or that's how the coach wanted his offense and Motley just hasn't had enough reps at passing it to develop feel and timing. It's probably a combo of the two.

Motley did it repeatedly throughout the spring. Very frustrating. I'd say the coaches know what they're getting from most of their players at this point, and if Motley isn't better at picking up blitzes in practice, he won't be better at it during the game.

Love the analysis, and its great to see we may have found our next anchor to the OL in Wyatt Teller. That man is straight mean and nasty in run blocking. He doesn't just open the hole, he ravages the DL's soul. As soon as things can start coming together for him in pass protection, we have a major, major building block established for the future of our Offensive Line.

I am curious to see how the QB competition comes along next spring. I wouldn't say either Motley or Brewer are really that accurate a passer right now, as we saw with Motley with the vid you posted above, and from what we've seen out of Brewer this year (there was a simple, from where I was standing, 5-10 hook route by the WR early in the game yesterday where Brewer had the kid open, and just flat out missed him by throwing 2 yards behind him). I'm guessing that Brewer's ability to hit the good pass every now and again, like we saw on the TDs is why he's still getting the nod, but now with us using a QB rotation, I have to wonder if there's any chance we'll see either Ford and/or Durkin get serious consideration next year, especially if they show more consistent accuracy.

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Regarding Motley, we just don't know. I am not going to conclude that he shouldn't be the quarterback. Heck, even with the inaccuracy I saw in the spring, based on what I saw VT having success with, I would have been just fine with Motley replacing Brewer in the 3rd quarter. And Brewer made a couple of really good throws when VT needed them the most (the fade to Ford, the back shoulder to Stanford, the quick out to Ford in the 3rd Q, the touchdown to Bucky, the out to Phillips which really should not have been a penalty any more than Smeltzer's release on Kendall Fuller at the end of the GT game.) Perhaps Brewer's best throw wasn't the TDs, it was the throw to the corner to Bucky Hodges earlier on the touchdown drive that got the ball down to the two. It was a #Moonball (I need to trademark that), but it was in a perfect spot where only Bucky could get it against man coverage. And, he delivered it was a big time rush in his face.

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Yeah, Brewer has had me shaking my head all season. He's complete feast or famine. His throws are either perfect or nowhere close. One second he can have you screaming at the TV on how we could be starting a guy who can't hit easy throws, and the next second you're in awe of the play that was just run. Its frustrating to see that kind of inconsistency consistently happening, but hopefully with better OL play, things will improve down the line.

What I'm seeing out of our offense right now is eerily similar to what Carolina Panthers fans have been seeing this year. With an atrocious OL playing in front of Cam Newton, his mechanics have gone straight to hell this season because he literally does not and cannot trust the OL to hold a block for more than half a second every play. He rarely plants his feet anymore when he's throwing, and if he doesn't immediately get rid of the ball, he's getting mauled by a DLman who just literally ran over or through the OL to get to him right after the snap. The complete screwup of a OL has taken an offense that was the most explosive in the league 2 years ago to one of, if not the most inept offense in the league this year. And when they do get someone open, Cam's internal clock is so screwed that he's completely missing the target more times than not. And this is with Cam Newton, who showed last year what he can do, even if the WR talent around him isn't that great.

I'm starting to wonder if this is the case for Brewer, and if so, whether or not that internal clock is too screwed up for him to rebound next year, assuming the OL improves and can start providing him some competent pass blocking. And if they can't, is it worth it to get one of the new freshmen back there behind center, potentially ruining their future by throwing him to the wolves behind a line that can't keep him off his ass.

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During the 3rd Q sackfest, Brewer looks very similar to Robert Griffin III on Sunday. It seemed like he was looking at the rush instead of downfield, and as result the ball wasn't getting out.

But, he made a terrific throw under pressure to Hodges to open the 4th. I think confidence and physical well being are critical to his success.

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As a skins fan, I agree....sadly. I don't think the book is completely written for Brewer yet though. I'm hoping for an open qb competition come Spring, but it won't surprise me if Brewer still wins it.

"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." - K

I was about to come up with a defense for Brewer but Wyatt read "defense" and pancaked it.

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“When life knocks you down plan to land on your back, because if you can look up, you can get up, if you fall flat on your face it can kill your spirit” David Wilson

I'll make you a deal lets not talk about our dearly beloved Panthers anymore. I usually forget about how bad they were about this time every week. Then either you or myself have to go and remind me after a hokies synopisis that: "Hey I've seen this story,"

LOL when I get to the letters Caro- or Pan- in one of your post I'm just like:

i can't

"This is really a lovely horse, I once rode her mother." - Ted Walsh

While the offensive line had a very good day run blocking, the pass protection was abysmal. Part of that was Brewer not getting rid of the football (even with two safety valves open underneath the coverage). But, the major bugaboo is still blitz pickups.

French, I have been wondering about Brewer and safety valves. It often appears that Brewer is expecting the RB to stay in and block when the RB thinks he's supposed to be the safety valve. In one clip, as you mention parenthetically, there are two safety valves open, but Brewer panics when he sees the blitz. Are there supposed to be two safety valves on that play, or was Coleman supposed to pick up the blitz rather than leak into the flat? Is this a communication issue between Brewer and Coleman?

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Told you...

J.C. Coleman is Duke's kryptonite.

Leonard. Duh.

Told you so's are forbidden by the roommate agreement.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

I see what you did there....

and I like it

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I left out the "so" because I love you guys.

Leonard. Duh.

It is crucial for VT to establish the run against Wake. They are not a bad defense, they just have no depth. The run game is where they can get Wake's D tired.

Watching the NC State game, State attacked the edge and underneath against Wake, I'd look for VT to do the same. Wake's pass defense is not bad, they try to keep everyone infront of them, but can get beat deep, State had several opportunities to complete big pass plays but didn't connect.

Wake has a lot of trouble with misdirection, they gave up a 75 yard reverse in the 3rd qtr for a TD and several big plays in jet sweeps or jet sweep motion.

Finally, Wake has a good punter, I expect Frank to talk a lot about him this week.

Bingo. As far as I'm concerned, if we get the run going, we win. If we don't, we lose.

Which could be quite challenging since a.) everyone but JCC is hurt and b.) JCC isn't playing Duke.

Any word on Trey?

Rogers, Wright, Caleb, Motley and J.C.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

Wright's got a hamstring.

That is a problem. Most people have two.

hammy

That's right. A little beefcake for the ladies!

lm

I'm probably late to the game, but did anyone else know that Duke's D had only allowed 5 passing TD's all season before Brewer threw 2 on Saturday (it's mentioned in the link below)? So the D doubled up their sacks allowed and 3 forced turnovers in the game were equal to half their 9 game total coming in, plus the O increased their passing TD's allowed by 40%.

http://duke.jebbit.com/v6bk5LcwbgrXxdGGpCtsRgx5K

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Don't give up on your dreams.

They beat a good football team. The margins just happen to be razor thin right now. This team could easily be 9-1 right now, and just as easily could be 3-7. As it is, they are probably slightly more talented than their record, and execution errors that come with young players and a lack of depth have probably swung at least two of those games to losses. Ohio State was a PERFECT matchup, in that their biggest weakness fit the Hokies best strength. Unfortunately, that door swings both ways (see Miami.)

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Agreed on all points. I'm more and more impressed with the W with each new stat that I uncover. Yes, Duke is a good football team, that doesn't beat themselves. Getting the W in their place is a very good thing for some kids who needed something to go their way. Getting it in spite of some late plays, likes of which have been biting the team in its collective ass (not just the fake punt and PF on Ekanem, but the 28 yd punt didn't help either) is fantastic.

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Don't give up on your dreams.

I'd agree -- More talented than their record, but definitely not better than their record.

I really want to see some improvement this weekend against WF, and then UVA, and then hopefully see a much bigger stride in the bowl game to give us something to go overboard with in the off season.

I refuse to "see Miami". Ever again. I have been successful in erasing 2005 from existence, and in time, 2014 will be eliminated as well.

Leonard. Duh.

Not to mention the 52 times we put the ball on the ground and managed to recover. Shane needs to fill that boxing glove up with sand and really start swinging the thing.

Plan for the worst and hope for the best, not the other way around.

I thought JCC was superb. Definitely ran with confidence and hit the whole hard. Thing is, the holes were IMO the largest all year. I think the real takeaway from this game was the O-line took a big step in the run game. We got off the ball fast, we hit them hard, and kept our legs moving. This film is night and day compared to the beginning of the year.

I think Searels has finally driven it home that you need to bring it to them every down. Like Loeffler said, the second to last drive in the fourth quarter was a big step for the offense. The line exploded off the ball as if it were their first snap of the game.

Grant it, we did have some mental errors: see Wang in the first clip above. He pulls around and wants to go for the middle linebacker, but Teller already knocked him off his feat. Wang runs right past the two secondary players. This would have been a much larger gain had Wang blocked someone. Fortunately he corrects it on the next time we run the play. He correctly blocks the corner.

Hopefully the line's aggressiveness will carry over to the WF game. I also really like all of the pulling we saw in the Duke game. I'm not a fan of the zone. It seams like one person gets beat every time we run the zone, blowing up the play. Whereas with the pulling is a more forgiving scheme. We have enough forward momentum in a concentrated spot that even if someone gets beat on the weak side, the back has already hit the whole.

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Two Questions French:
1. Is Brewer's height a factor in some of the missed open recievers? (aka can't see the receiver through the oline or no passing lane to throw through)

2. What would our starting oline look like next year?

A new season...new hope

1) His height has some impact, but the bigger issue is his stature/posture. When he feels pressure, he brings the ball down slightly and crouches. The ball then isn't ready to come out, his mechanics mess up, and he is even lower because of the crouch so seeing receivers are more of a challenge.

To me, when you see him kind of crouching in the pocket, he is looking at the rush instead of his progressions, and that is a bigger issue.

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Thanks french

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