Virginia Tech Football: Hokies-Hoos Commonwealth Cup Preview

Who will step up for Virginia Tech to make it 11-straight over Virginia?

[Virginia Tech Athletics \ Dave Knachel]

Welcome to Hate Week. The stakes will be high when Hokie Nation trudges to Lane Stadium on a blustery Friday November night. This year's edition of Hokies-Hoos has seemingly become a referendum on Frank Beamer's future. In addition, critical recruits necessary to boost the program's talent level, like blue chip defensive end Josh Sweat, will be in attendance. Finally, with a win Tech would extend its bowl streak and consecutive wins over Virginia to 22 and 11 years, respectively.

There isn't a flowery speech to give. This group of Hoos has never beaten the Hokies, and there's doubt in the back of their minds. While the matchup may look good for Carruthers from Charlottesville, this game always seems to be determined by the Hokies playing a more physical, disciplined and committed brand of football.

Can Frank Beamer and his staff somehow get the necessary performance out of his players? For the last decade Bud Foster has produced blitz and coverage concepts that have befuddled Virginia quarterbacks. While Greyson Lambert and Matt Johns are marked improvement over David Watford, you expect that Foster will find a way to keep UVa's screen and misdirection offense from putting significant points on the board. For Frank Beamer and Scot Loeffler, who both could be coaching their last game in Blacksburg, to generate a win the maligned Virginia Tech offense has to score points against a Virginia defense that may be the most talented they have played since Ohio State.

Running on the Hoos

With a talented front, defensive coordinator Jon Tenuta looks for his defensive tackles: 6'1", 295 pound junior David Dean (No. 55), 6'2", 285 pound junior Donte Wilkins (No. 93) and 6'4", 265 pound junior Mike Moore (No. 32) to eat up blocks and keep (in my opinion the best middle linebacker in the ACC) Henry Coley (No. 44) clean to pursue sideline to sideline. With those defensive tackles tying up blockers, it frees Virginia's defensive ends: 6'5", 240 pound sophomore Max Valles (No. 88) and heralded but undisciplined 6'4" 250 pound junior pass rusher Eli Harold (No. 7) to get up the field and be disruptive. Senior outside linebacker Daquan Romero (6-1, 230, No. 13) plays a similar style to Deon Clarke, as most often you will find him aligned on the line of scrimmage threatening an edge rush. Strong safety Anthony Harris (No. 8) is dynamic in run support, while outstanding true freshman Quin Blanding (No. 3) is an excellent tackler as the UVa's last line of defense. They are big, physical, and aggressive, but everything starts with their defensive tackle play and safety support.

Let's take a look at how UVa defends a simple inside zone read against UCLA.

Dean and Moore, the latter often slides inside to defensive tackle against spread teams, both violently engage the combination blocks on the inside, effectively tying up four blockers. Moore does a particularly good job on not being moved and knocking the blocker down that has to block Coley on the play. Coley is a stud, load to meet in the hole (6-2, 245) and has the quickness to get sideline to sideline. Coley was the best player on the field against the Hokies last season, and after Virginia Tech struggled to get similar-styled linebackers like Brandon Chubb and Steven Daniels blocked, I'd expect Coley to have a huge game. Finally, you can see Harris flying up from the field safety position to help with the tackle. As the season progressed, Harris played more and more around the line of scrimmage as UVa faced more run focused teams like Duke, Pitt and Miami.

This is a very tough front to attack, but teams have had some success by maintaining possession and wearing down Virginia's defensive tackles. David Dean is one of the most underrated players in the ACC, but in his role of taking on double teams, he needs some depth to help him get rested. Additionally, even though Eli Harold is extremely talented, teams have opened up running lanes by allowing him upfield only to chip him with a tight end. That frees offenses up to double-down on the defensive tackles, then slide off to block either of the safeties or Coley.

Duke runs an inside zone read. The left side of the Blue Devil line doubles down on Dean and gets some movement. The H-Back runs right past Harold, but Harold has gone too far upfield to close the hole. The H-Back leads on Blanding (whose size, tackling ability, and talent are comparable to Duke's Jeremy Cash) and gets a piece of him, while the double team on Dean seals Coley to the inside. When you watch the play again, it is also interesting to note that senior corners DreQuan Hoskey (No. 22) and Maurice Canady (No. 26) are very slow to pursue the play. More on that in a moment.

The Hokies had success last season getting to the edge by running the stretch play off an inverted veer action. That worked for two reasons: 1) The threat of Logan Thomas running inside tied up Coley and often caused the defensive ends to lean inside on the dive, making them easier to down block by the Hokie tight ends, and 2) Virginia was really hurting at the safety position last season. Harris was ejected for targeting early in the game, and Blanding was still patrolling the secondary for Bayside High School. Both are much stronger in run support than the Hoo safeties that were dominated by Trey Edmunds last year.

Also, Tech's options at tailback are much more limited in this year's tilt. Edmunds has been declared out. J.C. Coleman and Sam Rogers seem to be the only backs that have the trust of the staff, and Michael Brewer is certainly not a threat on the inverted veer. I can't imagine a scenario where Brenden Motley doesn't factor significantly in the running game, as he gives the Hokies not only the size to run inside, but also is enough of a threat to freeze players like Harold and Coley in pursuit.

Exploiting the Cornerback Position

Virginia has one big weakness on defense, and that is the cornerback position. The Hoos only have three healthy experienced corners with Demetrious Nicholson and Brandon Phelps out as result injuries. The remaining corners have good size, but are not great in man coverage and tend to be very slow to provide run support. With Tenuta basically committing the defensive line, two linebackers and at least one safety to stopping the run on almost every play, the Cavalier's pass coverage will show many looks, but almost always drop into a deep-off man or cover 3 shell. Like Boston College, that leaves a ton of room for receivers to run the deep in, out and curl routes that Isaiah Ford and Cam Phillips have had success on all season.

Duke quarterback Anthony Boone, doesn't have terrific arm strength (much like Michael Brewer), but Boone had great success throwing underneath Virginia's deep shell coverage using many of the same routes that the Hokies have looked their best on this year.

Here is a great example of Jamison Crowder working back to the football under UVa's safe man coverage. Boone rolls to the boundary. The UVa corner turns and runs when Crowder threatens his cushion, and Boone throws the curl as Crowder comes back to the football.

While Blanding and Harris are dangerous ball hawking safeties, Bucky Hodges will force them to pay attention in coverage. This makes a deep dig route with a go route from Hodges in the slot a very attractive play. On this play, Duke runs a similar pass combination.

UVa's corner plays outside leverage on Crowder. Duke's slot receiver runs as hard as he can right into the lap of the deep safety who has inside leverage help for the corner. Crowder threatens the cushion of the UVa corner (Hoskey, No. 22) and then breaks hard to the inside, right where the UVa safety should be. Instead, Crowder's break creates a huge gap with Hoskey (nearly 8 yards) and there is no safety to help him. Boone gets an easy completion for a big play.

The Hokies have had success on similar passing looks. Here, the Hokies run a very similar route combination, with Byrn breaking short and out, and Hodges driving right into the body of the safety.

ECU's corner is playing outside leverage against Cam Phillips. When Phillips breaks to the inside, Hodges has eliminated the safety, giving Brewer a clear throwing lane without an interception threat to the inside.

Those routes take time to develop, and a clean pocket has not been something Michael Brewer has benefited from most of this season. Tenuta has a reputation as being an aggressive blitzing defensive coordinator, and the Hokies have struggled with blitzes all season. Harold and Valles are both strong edge rushers, and Romero, Harris, and Coley all excel at timing their blitzes as demonstrated here against UCLA.

Coley very casually points out the running back and doesn't show blitz immediately. At the snap, he waits for the guard to clear on the influence pull and then times the blitz to move in behind him. With the back on the run fake, there is no one to pick up Coley, and it takes the special size and speed of Brett Hundley to prevent this from being a huge loss. Coley leads the Hoos with 8 sacks, and Harold and Valles each have 7.

Does Tech have the horses? I think the Hokies have a big advantage in talent on the outside, but Hodges, Ford and Phillips have struggled against veteran corners with lesser ability before (see Pitt). I don't know if Brewer has the self confidence to sling some of the tricky timing comeback routes that will be open against many of Virginia's coverages like at Ohio State (which runs a similar defensive system). Would Brenden Motley shock everyone and create a sustained spark similar to how Vic Hall willed a depleted UVa team competitive against the Hokies in 2008.

I am not sure. Last season, I thought UVa had a big advantage up front with their defensive line against the Hokies offensive line. Scot Loeffler, in perhaps one of his most impressive play calling halves of football, mitigated that risk by using counter-action and getting to the edge while Trey Edmunds ran wild. Demitri Knowles had a huge impact on that game, but has been invisible on everything except poor kickoff returns for most of the season. My head just can't say that the Hokies will win this game.

But, my head isn't my heart. Every year it seems, some unheralded upperclassmen shines in this matchup. Knowles had a great game last year. Alonzo Tweedy made play after play the year before. With this being potentially the last game for three offensive lineman, what better way for such a maligned group to redeem themselves a little than beating up a defensive front that everyone expects to kick their tail? How about Willie Byrn, a former walk-on who has seemingly become persona-non grata the last couple of weeks, finally getting to the end zone on a throw over the top? How about Brewer, maligned perhaps more than any Hokie quarterback, recovering some of that Ohio State form? Maybe the defense takes the next step from just forcing negative plays and starts turning the ball over for points? It's clear Tech will need someone to step up and be a difference maker if the Hokies want to extend the bowl and Virginia streaks.

Comments

French,

Quick question: On the Duke passing clips, I saw Anthony Boone standing there, basically STILL, and a bunch of big dudes stood in front and around him preventing the UVA players from tackling him. Can you explain that concept? I'm not sure I'm familiar with it, but granted I don't get to watch many games other than Hokie games.

what's really sad is I thought this was an honest question. Like you, I only watch VT games....very intriguing

Tyrod did it Mikey, Tyrod did it!!

I think it is called an Offensive Line its a pretty new concept

A new season...new hope

Can't vote but LOVE IT! Some one after my own heart!

Even when you get skunked; fishing never lets you down. 🎣

French, as you have seemed to be one of the more grounded members of our awesome community, I have to ask. Do you really feel that this could be Beamers last game? Or is that simply hyperbole to make the story line more dramatic?

Great write-up as always. Thanks for taking the time to teach what most of us haven't the slightest clue. Really looking forward to your breakdowns of winning efforts, which I'm sure will be more fun for you than always dissecting what went wrong.

Happy Thanksgiving!

Honestly, I am not sure. Lots of folks compare what is happening in Blacksburg to Bowden at Florida State. I compare it to Phillip Fulmer at Tennessee. Fulmer, in an effort to modernize his offense to make it more attractive to recruits and the Tennessee fanbase, lost the ethos that made Tennessee football special (I formation, power running, vertical threats at receiver.)

I fear that, also like Fulmer's scenario, that a vast majority of the potential coaching hires will keep things where they currently are- the midst of mediocrity. At Tennessee, the AD went with the sexy young energetic coach with the NFL pedigree in Lane Kiffin. Three coaches later, and the Vols are still trying to turn the corner, and despite Butch Jones headway in terms of recruiting, I don't think they can be a National Championship contender with that system in Knoxville. The ethos is lost. I fear for the same at VT. Bud could be the link, but I am also keenly aware that many folks don't think he will ever be the head coach, and I am also aware that he has said in the past that he wants a Chad Morris-style offense in Blacksburg. Being a head coach isn't always about X's and O's. It is about being a respected figurehead who can motivate the kids and woo the donors. It is about being a good administrator, and making tough decisions when the culture of the team is off course. It is about putting the right people in position to make those X's and O's decisions and then giving them enough freedom that the players don't question the coordinators without giving them so much freedom that they don't meet the expectations of the head coach.

Whenever I have doubted Beamer in the past, somehow he and his staff seemed to right the ship and pull a rabbit out of their hat. I am talking awful moments (like the horrible beating they took against BC on Thursday night in 2006, and then run the table the rest of the way) that would take most teams and wreck their season. I also can't quantify the Hokies not having a transcendent player on offense has hurt the team since 2011. The only players that we will see tomorrow that have that ability on offense are Hodges and Ford, and both are only as good as the guy getting the ball to them. The Tyrod Taylors, Kevin Jones, and Michael Vick's of the world hid a bunch of flaws, not just in scheme, but in the depth of talent. In years that the Hokies have been on the cusp, they always had one of those guys rising above, even guys who were not high on the recruiting radar like a Dwayne Thomas, Lee Suggs, etc.

I just don't know folks. No matter what (everyone goes, everyone stays, some go), there is going to be a backlash this off season that is not going to make anyone who supports this program feel good.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

French, let me ask you, what do you point to as the moment the offense went off kilter? Was it the coaching changes in '06, Stinespring's appointment to replace Bustle, Loeffler's hire? I know you blame a lot of our offensive woes on the shift from power to multiple, but what was the first domino to fall in that progression in your opinion?

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

The hiring of Curt Newsome. Before that, we were consistently a top-30 to top-50 type of offense. Not bad for a team focused on defense and special teams. A year or two after that hire is when we started seeing the triple-digit offensive rankings we know and love to hate.

I don't think this is accurate. I thought Bustle's offenses tended to fall around 60-70 in total offense, outside of the Vick years. I'll have to delve into that a little.

EDIT: Just for clarity's sake, yes I completely agree that we saw our offensive ranking plummet post-Bustle, I just think you're overstating Bustle's rankings.

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

Ah, you very well might be right. I haven't looked into Tech's offensive production of the 90's and before (essentially Bustle and earlier), so I was just going by what we saw in the early/mid 2000's up until now, which I considered to be "the drop" in offensive production.

1993, in Bustle's first year, VT finished 11th in scoring.. and never finished worse than 37th until 2006

Oops sorry I thought we were talking Total O, not Scoring O.

Hey where did you find the stats? I can't find anything pre-2004.

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

It was listed in an article of Teel Time, link is here

Many thanks!

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

I will not be party to that backlash.

Until January 2017, and only then if it must come to that.

Thanks French. I fear a lot of the same things. If we have another 5 or so years like Tennessee has had in recent history, God help us. Rough...

French, excellent work as always. Let's see what Lefty's kitchen sink looks like this year.

I've only watched UVa play once on TV this year. I came away with two thoughts in my head:
1. Eli Harold looks really skinny. Thankfully he was not Gentrified. I REALLY want to see Teller pull around and drive him out of bounds a few times.
2. Their QB reminds me of that poor UofL QB we made bleed. Hopefully we can have a repeat performance.

UofL QB

UofL QB bleed

Hunter Cantwell? Am I remembering that correctly?

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

If you're not, don't feel bad. I don't think he was even remembering his name correctly that day.

Hunter Cantbreathethroughhisnosewell, IIRC

@historyhokie.bsky.social

Yes you are remembering correctly. As I recall, he publicly ran his mouth about our defense before the game and he paid the price...publicly as well. Irony is a fickle thing.

And am I also remembering correctly that he was the backup? Didn't they have a pretty good QB that was injured for the bowl game?

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

Thanks to Wyatt Teller and the Dadi/Ken combo for making these two Holiday wishes a reality.

UVa plant

For me, it was the changing of the offense to zone blocking to appease Kevin Jones in 2003. They had great offensive players after that, but they never quite could just line up and pound the football after that, even with Williams, Evans, and Wilson.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

Thanks French.

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

...and there are a lot of people wanting KJ to replace Shane as RB coach. Don't think we'd see a power running game

We put the K in Kwality

I'm not gonna lie, tomorrow's game terrifies me. I know that the day eventually has to come where they beat us again but I certainly don't want it to be my senior year. Tenuta's blitzing schemes and their premiere pass rushers is the scariest part, IMO. We've seen our offensive line time and time again screw up blitz pickups. If/when Brewer starts getting hit back there, look out. I think Motley is our best option simply to help out the running game and wear down that defensive line that you talked about. Also, to(hopefully) keep down on the INT's that Brewer has been prone to throw under pressure.

"These people are losing their minds" - Mike Patrick

We will be there, loving on our Hokies and freezing our butts off. Go Hokies, Beat the Hoos!

SCHokie

Screw it, let's win this game.

Get all over Lambert, keep Parks in front of you, lock up their WRs. Be ready for the misdirection. Hit somebody.

On offense, take advantage of good field position, be aggressive when it makes sense, make blocks on those WR screens and jet sweeps and utilize Motley in the redzone. Be balanced and successful on 1st and 2nd down.

VT 23, UVA 10.

So basically, do all the things we haven't been able to do all season? Got it! :-)

Virginian by Birth, Hokie by Choice

French, love the write up as always. What do you think the offensive game plan should be to win? And should it be Brewer, Motley or a combination running the offense?

This is the offensive gameplan, from a fan's perspective:

*To the tune of Yankee Doodle, adapted from an American Outlaws cheer*
Come on, Hokies, score some points
It's really pretty simple
Put the ball across the line and we'll go f---ing mental!
Da, da-da, da-da-da-da
Da, da-da, da-daaaa-da
Da, da-da, da-da-da-da
And we'll go f---ing mental!

Gameday!!! Go Hokies!

Munich, Germany

Drink an Erdinger Urweisse. Or a Hacker Pschorr Helles. You'll thank me later.

Let's go Hokies! Time to whoop some wahoo ass! My wife said I behaved so well yesterday that today I can go to the game fully dipped! Game on baby! Give them hell Frank!

Having a game tonight is make this dreaded work day, where it seems no one else is working, go by a little faster

Bleeding burnt orange and chicago maroon

Timecop was on tv earlier (the movie, not Mike London.)
That has to be an omen.

If we're talking about omens...

Yesterday, I went to my girlfriend's grandparents' house for Thanksgiving dinner. Her loluva cousin fumbled his plate of turkey and everyone laughed. He also got thrown up on by his goddaughter.

He also was bragging about leaving the loluva-miami game after loluva's first score because "they were going to lose anyways." I had to break it to him yesterday that they won.

@historyhokie.bsky.social

I think Whit dumps Scott L no matter if we win or lose.

Pour some Beer on it

I think as long as CFB has confidence in CSL he stays. I doubt Whit overrules Frank. I think they give him at least one more year. Possibly two if Frank seriously talks about hanging it up after 16. If that's the case I think they keep him because no one of serious caliber would come for one year to possibly get canned by the next HC.

Of course I don't know what frank thinks of Scot they may very well get rid of him. But I doubt it.

If you don't want to recruit clowns, don't run a clown show.

"I want to punch people from UVA right in the neck." - Colin Cowherd

We wanted it more. Plus Mike London not taking some opportunities for easy points. HA!

VT '10--US Citizen; (804) Virginian By Birth; (979) Texan By the Grace of God.

Rick Monday... You Made a Great Play...

I also root for: The Keydets, Army, TexAggies, NY Giants, NY Rangers, ATL Braves, and SA Brahmas

I love watching ML go for it on 4th down in the red zone. It's happened at least once every year since 2011, IIRC. And it seems like every year he ends up regretting that decision. If he just kicks a field goal there, he only needs another 3 to win the thing at the end. Instead, Johns got a lovely introduction to Ekanem, and our boys are currently filling the Cup with adult beverages and consuming said beverages from said Cup.