The offshore website 5Dimes released some college football opening weekend lines, and "Vegas" doesn't think much for Tech's chances against the Buckeyes.
North Carolina vs South Carolina, in Charlotte - Thursday, September 03, 2015 7:00 PM
North Carolina +7.5 -120
South Carolina -7.5 -120
Michigan at Utah - Thursday, September 03, 2015 9:00 PM
Michigan +6 -120
Utah -6 -120
Texas A&M vs. Arizona State (at Houston, TX) - Saturday, September 05, 2015 12:00 PM
Arizona State +1 -120
Texas A&M -1 -120
Alabama vs Wisconsin, in Arlington - Saturday, September 05, 2015 12:00 PM
Alabama -13 -120
Wisconsin +13 -120
Virginia at UCLA - Saturday, September 05, 2015 3:00 PM
Virginia +16 -120
UCLA -16 -120
Texas at Notre Dame - Saturday, September 05, 2015 3:30 PM
Texas +10.5 -120
Notre Dame -10.5 -120
Auburn vs Louisville, in Atlanta - Saturday, September 05, 2015 7:00 PM
Auburn -10 -120
Louisville +10 -120
Ohio State at Virginia Tech - Monday, September 07, 2015 8:00 PM
Ohio State -19 -120
Virginia Tech +19 -120
Ohio State is the defending national champion and is loaded for another run in 2015. However, Virginia Tech soundly beat Ohio State 35-21 in the Horseshoe last season and returns most of its 2014 starters. Ohio State (+450) is 5Dimes favorite to win the national championship. Virginia Tech is +12000, Virginia is +50000.
Clemson is the odds leader to win the ACC Championship.
Clemson +250
Florida State +300
Georgia Tech +400
Virginia Tech +800
Louisville +800
Duke +800
NC State +1000
Miami FL +1500
Pittsburgh +1500
North Carolina +2000
Boston College +3000
Virginia +3000
Syracuse +6000
Wake Forest +6000
Comments
Wow! I may have to break my rule against gambling. We will win this game.
it's like a train wreck...can't...look...away
I've said that about many games (Cal game, USC game, Syracuse game) and the moment I put my money into it, bad things happen.
The Hokies are speculated to have the same odds to win the ACC as Duke. I can't say its an unfair assessment.
But hell, 3 years ago... I would have never thought i'd type those words.
Tied for fourth favorite to win it, too.
or tied for 6th, depending on if you are counting teams ahead of it (eg, "there are 3 teams with better odds) or teams behind it ("the next lowest team is ranked 7th")
I'm a glass half full kind of guy.
To be fair Duke is not Duke anymore.
predictions don't bother me so long as the results stay the same.
I'm hoping that it is closer than that, but Urban Meyer had that machine humming at the end of last year.
Our machine was also broken beyond duct tape and wd-40 repair. We had to patch together too much, which is part of the reason why it was such a bummer of a season.
I'm not usually that into gambling, but that is a line I'll take all day every day. No way we lose by more than ten, and if we keep anOSU under 24 we can definitely win!
There's no way it'll stay at 19 in my opinion, by kickoff it'll be +14 or something in that range. At +19 you'd have to love the Hokies, hell you'd have to love the hokies as a home dog at night in any scenario. Maybe not to win the game outright (don't want to jinx it), but getting two TDs? All over it.
I may have to drop a few bucks on us with 19 points to give.
What was the line last year at da shoe? Taint scarred...
OSU -12.
I thought the spread for the first game was too high and I nearly bet on it. I really wish I did since I honestly thought we might win, but I had to talk myself out of it. I have a hard time betting on teams I care about because I always fear that my judgement is clouded.
That being said, I think 19 is too high. I think it will be a good game, I thought the team showed some signs of the magic they had back in the good days.
If anyone was curious like i was:
In the past 4 seasons, we've lost by 19 or more six times.
2014 Thursday night home loss to Miami: -24
2013/14 Sun Bowl loss to UCLA: - 30
2013 Chik-fil-a kickoff loss to Alabama: -25
2012 road loss to Clemson: -21
2011 ACCCG loss to Clemson: -28
2011 home loss to Clemson: -20
3 neutral site blowouts, 1 on the road, and 2 at home. I still think a 19 point line is a bit ridiculous, but the possibility of a 19 point loss is very real
Also, please excuse me while I go throw up after typing out those three Clemson losses back to back to back.
That portion gave me the sads :(
Good post. Kind of the point I was trying to make as well.
Yeah, I could see this 41-17 type of game here. I love our defense, but if their offense is clicking, we're in trouble.
Reminder: mobile QB's. They have a lot of them.
As usual, the game will be won in the trenches, if we can pressure the QB like we did last year it'll be a close game. Granted, Cardale Jones made spectacular plays while he was under pressure against some pretty good/great defensive talent, so maybe that's an overrated axiom. Really wish that guy had turned pro. I still think if we can get good pressure on Barrett (don't even think Braxton Miller is in the frame there anymore) and bring some of Bud's exotic blitz looks we should be in it right until the very end. As long as our offense is serviceable this game will be close.
After reading your post I have a beautiful image in my head of Dadi, Ekanible, Maddy, and MANBEARPIG#2! Tim Settle converging on Jones or Barrett all at the same time.
If that's the case, I think you mean "the crater formerly known as Jones or Barrett."
I didn't think about those losses. Especially the Clemson ones, I must have tried really hard to forget about those lol. Now I have to forget about them again. Hopefully there won't be any more that I have to forget.
FWIW, I think Clemson just really had our number. The miami game last year was just a bad night I think. The times we lost to Miami big in the distant past was because we either got too hyped up or they were really good.
We'll have to see how much better the Buckeyes got with more experienced players and a different but equally if not more talented QB. But who knows, maybe we just are their kryptonite.
Go back and read some of French's reviews of those games if you have the time. It's worth it even if it is a little depressing. Bad match ups in all of the games that you mentioned, combined with a bunch of turnovers and some poor special teams play is a recipe for a blowout.
not to mention the offense has to sustain some drives, if nothing else to eat some clock. if VT goes 3 and out a lot, we're gonna have a bad time.
if
VTOregon goes 3 and out a lot,we'rethey're gonna have a bad time.It was like Oregon didn't practice for 3rd and long. They looked lost.
How many times did we lose by 19 or more in the 10 years previous to the last four? My guess is not too many.
*insert additional motivation as an underdog here*
If I've learned anything, it's to never bet on a game that the Hokies are playing in.
With that said, here are times the Hokies have lost by 20 or more at home since the bowl streak started...
2014 - Miami - lost by 24
2011 - Clemson - lost by 20
2005 - Miami - lost by 20
Hint... Despite some recent set backs, there are very few times the Hokies have had their doors blown off at home.
I appreciate the stats...but how many 'good' teams have we played at home in that same stretch?
The sample size is small, but in the 4 games vs top 5 teams at home since 1993, VT only lost one of those by more than 19.
vs #1 at home - Lost by 2
vs #2 at home - Lost by 4, Won by 24
vs #5 at home - Lost by 20
I've had good success betting the under on the Hokies. Much better than the side, take that for what it's worth.
So what does the "-120" mean? Is this the payout? Would a $100 bet payout $220?
A $100 would pay out $120Deathrow's comment below is right in the case of -120. My comment would only be true for a moneyline of +120.
For a point spread both bets are -120. For the moneyline you'd be right, but for a point spread it's usually -110 (in this case I guess -120). The extra 20 is the casino's cut, so you never really get true even odds from a casino.
Source: I have a slight winning problem.
Thanks for the correction. I somehow botched the part where the spread negates the favorite/underdog aspect but it makes perfect sense.
You need help...
Put down $120 to win $100.
OK, my $220 was including the original $100, so basically even odds with the spread. I have never gambled on a game, I am assuming if I bet the Hokies to win there is a much bigger payout.
With a spread that large, I doubt most books in Vegas would even offer a money line bet (meaning betting on VT to win the game outright)...that said, if there was one I think you'd expect it to be in the +1000 range (i.e. bet $100 to win $1000). And I think that's even a bit low.
I think +900 is the most likely. But I also expect VT to be one of the better bets for week 1. To be honest I don't think we're going to win, but it's just a good deal. Just like in the WC final when Argentina was going off at +350 to win in regulation, most people didn't think they were going to win but you'd have to be crazy to not at least consider that bet.
exactly...plop $20 on the Hokies to win $180? value all the way there with minimal outlay. I grew up in England, I'd never bet on Argentina, unless it's to lose...by a lot.
-120? When did they change from the standard -110? And does anyone know what the money line for the game is down in Vegas?
110 is stil standard. I think they have some extra juice because they game is so far out that they want to cover themselves a bit
Holy hell, I am going to bet a ton of money on the Hokies with 19 points to give.
anOSU won't even score 19
#lunchpailD
I was happy to give this post its 19th leg
Whatever happened to that guy? He used to have crazy commercials all the time.
He gave away all his money for free so couldn't afford commercials...
Have we ever been a bigger home dog? Maybe back when Miami was at top?
I would be curious what the spread was in 1992 when we hosted #1 Miami
I am definitely betting on this game, and I usually put $20 down on Tech to win the NCG. This year will be no different.
OT: Will our Marching band return the favor??
I think I'm gonna jump all over this one!!!!!
Everyone is talking about how haveing all these QB's for anOSU is so over the top great, in my view it just means less reps for whomever ends up as starter.
I agree, don't really see that QB situation ending well.
Three guys who all have a taste a starting, the 3rd string guy won a BIG and a NC. How is he going to like being 2nd or 3rd string again? How is the new incoming QB Gibson going to shake up the reps?
And no matter who the starter is, every time they throw an incompletion people will be grumbling for the next guy to get playing time. It just has disaster written all over it.
I do agree with this, the unfortunate part for Tech is its an early season game. Starter has 1 bad game and it could start to snowball. As for Gibson he wont make much of a difference, not next year anyway. The kid has potential, but he also has potential huge bust all over him. A lot of players have the "Me , me, me" attitude, but he takes it to the next level. We wanted him at Tennessee, but were most likely gonna put him at WR, which is the position he payed in the 7's tournaments in the summer.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Braxton as RB in tandem with Eziekel. Somebody has to spell the guy. Braxton would also put a wrinkle in offense. It's my understanding that he's more likely to draft as back rather than a QB anyway.
Better to have too many stars than not enough or none.
If the Buckeyes decide not to play such soft coverage again they will win by 3 scores. I couldn't beleive how much room they gave Off the line, and they never changed it, for whatever reason.
So, nobody tell Urban about the coverages and we'll be fine.
And if they focus on covering our receivers tight then JC will run over them for 150+ yards. Win win situation.
Ohio States D line is stout. One of the best in the country by the end of the year. I doubt many are running for that on them this year.
I was somewhat kidding.
Lol it's fine, wasn't sure or not. There are some fans, of every team who have moments of insanity by homeriam, and that's ok too. Part of what being a fan is about.
I like this guy, welcome to TKP.
Exactly, I find myself living in a fantasy world part of the time when it comes to pulling for my teams and convincing myself that they will win a certain game, sometimes it works and sometimes it doens't, haha.
As a Vol fan Ive been living in a fantasy world for 10 years, every year we are "1 year away from being back". Luckily I actually think this coming year might actually be that year. Except for against Florida. You could give a middle school team Gators uniforms and we'd still find a way to lose to them.
At that point I think on of our biggest concerns was our secondary and their ability to cover; so they may have played soft to avoid getting your receivers getting behind them. We saw how that worked out, and we got more aggressive in coverage as our CB/S/LB play improved.
As a line, 19 is probably right because to will bring a lot of early money in on the VT side. I think you'll see it settle around 10 - 14 as we get closer.
As for the game, I think the starting QB position is 12Guage's to lose. He has the mechanics and just needs to become better at reading defenses; although after pulling off 3 straight you can't really complain about his skill set nor argue that any game was a fluke. We have some explosive backs so he doesn't have to be the guy every play, and if Mille lines up at H Back or WR then we have his talent on the field as well. Barret is probably a better tactician but 12G's ability to power run adds a new dimension to the offense.
Anyway, looking forward to the game...
If Jones comes out of spring as number one, no way someone doesn't transfer.
I doubt it. Miller is the only one who can transfer and start, everyone else has to sit a year. Of the 3, only JT is the prototypical NFL QB, the others are outstanding college QB's but have questions, wetter it is sizer durability, at the pro level. So the question for JT would be do I transfer and sit a year and maybe get a higher draft pick if I win the starting position and have a great year; or do I play backup, get reps to show what I can do and the go pro? He is a rSoph so he could stay at OSU, be a backup if that happens, heal fully and have a shot at being #1 after Jones and Miller leave.
For Miller, I think the real question is can his arm survive playing QB or should he switch to a H-Back WR position and maybe have a better shot at the NFL?
Someone could transfer but I don't see it happening,a t least not now.
I'm not sure I follow. Sports books want equal betting on both sides, ensuring they make money. Not sure if I understand your logic.
Also, I don't see how 19 is about right. OSU only scored 21 points in the Shoe against VT last year. In addition, VT gave up an average of 20.2 points/game. But, it's possible. OSU put up 49 on MSU, 59 on Wisc., and 42 on Bama.
I guess we'll see.
My reasoning is 19 is the point where half the betters think the Hokies will cover and half thing OSU will. I don't think we'll hang 20 points on you so if I were a bettor I'd pick VT over the Buckeyes; emcee my comment on early money on the VT side.
My guess is they will probably a little get more action on the VT side and move the line down to balance the betting. I think somewhere around 10 - 14 is the final spread; baring unforeseen injuries, suspensions, etc.
I still don't follow that logic. If half the people are on both sides of the bet at 19, then it stays at 19. Maybe what you're saying is that very few people at all are betting any money on either side at 19 and one actual money comes in, you think it will be the early money that moves the line down to 10-14. But wouldn't you normally give a national title winning team 17-20 pt favorites with returning QB, RB, OL, over a team that barely squeaked out a winning season and lost 3-0 to Wake? Just playing devil's advocate, which was the real VT, the one that won at the Shoe or the one who didn't beat anyone else of any significance the rest of the year or the team that won 13 in a row looking dominant over the last 5 or 6. 19 is probably about right honestly
You - like a lot of people right now - are basically comparing the OSU team from Jan to the VT team that lost to WF in Nov.
When the the season gets closer and far more people start paying closer attention and more facts - like injury info, who's looked good in fall practice, etc plus "expert" analysis (particularly at ESPN to hype the game) that also illustrate VT's upside for 2015, IMO money will start to move away from OSU -19 on the road.
I think that sounds about right. A spread of about 12, where it was last year, seems most reasonable given it'll be the first game, new faces, in Lane, all that jazz. The big thing to keep an eye on is whether our Rover (CJ Reavis) and our Mike (Andrew Motuapuaka) continue to improve or regress/stagnate. If either of those two guys struggles on Labor Day, the Buckeyes will run away with it. If those two guys play well, it'll be a doozy.
anybody know a good bookie? haha
So they basically give UVa better odds to beat UCLA on the road, than for us to beat anOSU at home.
in my best Billy Madison voice... Lady you're scaring us!
That's a Lady?
yep, who somehow found herself at the WVU spring game
Actually, it's a dude that doesn't look like a lady....
Those liking VT at -19 should bet now because I doubt this stays at -19.
Yah, thinking somewhere around 14 by gameday
Or less...
Speaking of the game being at Lane. The game at the Horseshoe was a record setter. Will Tech sell more than 65,632 tickets for the game. Are there any expansions going on in the off season
One side question: why is Utah favored over Michigan?
Because Michigan is NOT good.
yeah but...harbaugh
got to love a tradition-rich program as an almost TD road underdog with a new coach who the players will try to impress...especially when that coach is Jim Harbaugh. I'm on that angle like stink on a monkey.
Michigan was bad last year. Didn't even make a bowl game. Utah was very good last year. I suspect that Michigan will be much improved with Harbaugh but Utah should be a legit top 25. Talk about an athletic program on the rise, they are killing it in basketball right and have been consistently good in football over the several years.
That is something that has troubled me greatly. Is Utah considered a better football program than us? During the BCS era they managed to win 2 (one of them a complete asswhopping on Bamy in the Sugar bowl) compared to our paltry 1-4.
No, they are not quite on our level program wise but they aren't too far behind.
Yes it was this list of teams
-Boise St.
-Utah
-Louisville
-Cal (Golden Bears)
-WVU
-Kansas
-Mizzou
Uhhh, because they're the better team...at home.
Haha, you guys.
VT: 27
OSU: 24
The Terror Dome shall rise once again.
I was sitting at the bar a couple of weeks ago with my favorite VT recruiter. There was a guy at the end of the bar dressed in his OSU NC stuff. So I asked him, are you a big OSU fan, he said "Oh yeah, went to the NCG, loved the whole experience. He then asked me "Who do you cheer for, I politely said, "The only team that beat you"
As he was leaving, the VT recruiter turned to me and said, " We are gonna kick there ass next year" That pretty much says it all. Take the bet, straight up.
Love the Rott in your picture. Also love that VT recruiter's attitude! Bring it!
Man, I'm looking forward to the new season to see what we've got.
The bear defense may still offer problems to da champs. However, many OSU fans like the 20.5 spread
Spread's still sitting up there as of a couple of days ago. The above link from elevenwarriors might have been put up here somewhere before but same as last year, seems they are confident. Paraphrasing a few comments "we had an all new everything last year and weren't ready. Urban won't get caught this year and will have new tricks against the bear. The VT offense will have no chance. We're going to Wisconsin them and lay 50 on them. Revenge is a strong motivation. ladidaaah!" While I understand their optimism, we will be improved too and hopefully have an o-line that will be serving a few pancakes. I feel this comes down to a coaches game made harder for Bud Foster (unless he truly is the elite of elite geniuses) by having to prepare for three quarterbacks. Will we be up for it?
Watch Bud not run any bear defense the entire game, its like they expect us to run the exact same defense against them next year.
Indeed. With Bud, there will always be a wrinkle. Even if it looks the same at first, it won't be.
Jeff Goldblum .gif = autoleg
I don't think VT will run the same defense simply because we will be better prepared to exploit weaknesses in the bear if you do. For example, we have a much better deep threat now than we had at the start of the season last year, even if we did lose our #1 deep threat wide receiver. If you do run the bear, I think you'll see more screens to the flats as well. Overall, I think we are a much better team this year than we were at the start of last year; so if you do go with the bear defense it will not be anywhere near as effective.
As I have said before, I expect us to ultimately be a 14pt favorite. You guys are better than you were last year as well, given all the injuries you suffered, but I think we will be able to pass much more effectively against this year's team than last, given we now have experienced QB's and WR's.
Can you explain why you would expect to see more WR screens in the flat, considering how much press man coverage we ran last year? Slants and in-routes, yes, RB screens, maybe...
Also, while your team and receivers undoubtedly got better (I fully expect Michael Thomas to have another big game) I also don't think that you faced an elite secondary after Penn State, so it's a little hard to tell how much your receivers really improved. Personally, I expect a Minnesota-type game rather than a Wisconsin-type game.
I would expect RB screens, not WR screens. If your LB follows the RB then the QB should have a running lane or if not the RB now has a lane behind the WR's blocking. In addition, the bear, if I am correct, leaves only one safety so there is a hole on coverage for long passes. If you don't key on the run Zeke could have afield day.
Alabama had a pretty good secondary and we passed ok on them. While I don't expect a Wisconsin type game I don't expect a Minnesota type game eighth imply because we won't be playing in the same weather in Blacksburg.At any rate is should be a good game.
You're obviously not familiar with Blacksburg weather.
(To be fair, neither am I, but I've read plenty about how the weather can change from sunny to blizzard in the time it takes to walk across the drill field)
Ah, then yes, if we run the bear front I would expect some RB screens like that... You guys ran some of that in the 4th quarter with mixed success. Usually we countered by having that safety shadow the RB coming out of the backfield with the LB staying with the QB and having no one in the middle of the field. We basically dared you to throw deep on us under pressure.
I was very surprised that you guys used your RB mostly as blockers rather than as weapons. I wouldn't expect Urban Meyer to make that mistake twice. The traditional speed option in particular killed us, as the 9-tech consistently took the QB and the safety couldn't get to the RB fast enough.
We generally ran cover 0 behind the bear front against you guys. Theoretically, that would leave open the possibility of long passes. Yet, OSU was only 3 of 10 (that 3 includes a pass interference call) with 2 interceptions on deep throws- granted not always against cover 0. It'll be interesting to see what both teams' coordinators come up with.
Bama's secondary was generally poor in man-coverage and they got burned by every decent WR corps they saw last year. Outside of Cyrus Jones, I wouldn't have trusted any of them to cover your receivers one-on-one. Neither did Nick Saban, which is why you saw so much zone in the middle of the field. Cardale Jones, to his credit, then proceeded to pick apart that zone. When Bama was in man-coverage, Devin Smith absolutely torched their other CB, Eddie Jackson. Bama just didn't have the personnel to do what we did and run with you guys- definitely a bad matchup for them.
Yeah, I mean more in terms of score rather than the relative sloppiness and cold of the Minnesota game.
Should be a good game! Always enjoy talking Xs & Os with the fans of opposing teams. Sorry for the novel.
I I suspect the inexperience of our team made UM be less willing to open up and attack your secondary. I suspect we'll see more WR blocks to give Elliott running room, like we saw when he went 85 yards through the heart of the south vs Bama.
Alternatively, We may see more pitch options by BM or 12 Guage. If you guys key on the run we'll try to make you pay with a passing game that attacks your open spaces downfield or taking deep shots downfield. We need to spread the field so your safety has to cover a lot of ground.
That assumes our OL can give us time to develop the play and not let you force our QB to make quick decisions and thus make mistakes. We are lucky to have pretty much all returning starters on the o line so we should be better at protection this year. If you can pressure our QB like you did last year then we will be in for a long game.
Turnovers may be key in this game. I doubt we can turnover the ball like we did vs Bama and pull out a win. I think Bama was expecting a blowout and didn't expect us to be as fast or as tough as we were. I must admit it is sweet to see the reaction from Bama fans when I wear my OSU gear in the south. I don't expect you to give up and will fight to the end just as we will.
I also like talking X's and O's with opposing fans and like it when I find a board where we can have a good discussion with some friendly smack thrown in. I'm slowly learning more of the details of football and value other perspectives.
I have a lot of respect for VT as a school and in football and would love to see you join the B1G. Unfortunately, the story in Cowtown (Columbus as it is affectionately known) is we'd have to take UVA as well and that is a non starter.
No worries about the novel. I tend to be a bit long winded as wel but as a consultant I get paid to speak so I am guilty of that as well.
If I can score some tickets at a reasonable price I will be there as well, proudly wearing my OSU gear.
Why would you run screens to the flat against an 8 man secondary? You'd be better off running a quick power hitter up the middle against the three man DLine
I gotta ask... why would Bud prepare for 3 QBs?
The key to OSU's offensive system is establishing the run game and it's going to have a lot more similarities regardless of who's under center than any differences the QB might bring. Secondly, I honestly can't imagine Braxton Miller being the QB but if for some reason he is, would you really prepare any differently for him than JT Barrett? Cardale might have different skills but I almost guarantee Bud's approach would be similar in that he's going to try to confuse him with different looks, bring pressure from all over the place, and force him into mistakes. If you ask me, the OSU starting QB could easily start looking to the sideline wondering if he'll get pulled if he makes a few mistakes or doesn't have early success. That type of pressure on a QB can potentially force a bad decision and plays right into Bud's hands.
All that said, I fully expect OSU will be tough to beat. I just don't think the idea that Bud has to game plan for three QBs playing will be the defining factor.
Find me a local bookie and I will take the 19! I! trust in BUD!
These odds show that the ACC just doesn't get any respect.
North Carolina +7.5 -120
South Carolina -7.5 -120
What has USC shown that they are a TD better than UNC?
Alabama -13 -120
Wisconsin +13 -120
I may take the points in this one. I think Bama wins unless Wisky shits a QB, but their RB is a bad ass and could keep Wisky in the game.
Virginia +16 -120
UCLA -16 -120
I hate UVa, but I can see them pulling n upset. Their D will be ok and UCLA struggled against them last year.
Auburn -10 -120
Louisville +10 -120
Auburn finished out the season on a bad note yet everyone still loves them. Petrino will push Loserville into the top tier of the ACC this year. I think Loserville wins.
Ohio State -19 -120
Virginia Tech +19 -120
I wouldn't be shocked by any outcome in this game. I could see them killing us, I could see us waxing them. The great thing about beating them last year, the guys will have confidence that they can do it. 19 is to much to give up at home.
Wisconsin's RB will be in the NFL next season.....
So? The spreads are mostly based on the past anyway....
I wasn't talking about the spread, I was talking about when Correy said that Wisconsin's RB could keep them in the game which is impossible because he is in the NFL now.
UNCheat has a terrible defense.
One thing I have observed over the years of watching VT is they don't seem to do very well the first game of the season if their opponent is really good. I believe they haven't won many. Am I correct in this? If so it wouldn't bode well for them.
OSU has a big fan base and after reading their comments they would probably jump on any number. The line could be -50 and they would probably jump on it. I'm sure Vegas knows that and came up with the spread to suck some money out of the OSU faithful. No doubt it will come down a bit once the actual gamblers start putting money down.
I get what you're saying, but not sure that's true with gambling. Typically, high rollers ($10,000s+) significantly out bet fans (less than $500). The lines are almost always determined by nonpartisan gamblers. With that said, OSU has the brand name, the hot Coach, and that golden pussy trophy which is appealing to those who gamble. +19 is probably too high though.
Moment of clarity...
The College Football Playoffs Championship Trophy is... a pussy touchdown.
Last year, I put $200 on the moneyline. I won $740 (+370). I enjoy playing the moneyline when VT is a huge underdog. I feel like you have nothing to lose if you view the $200 as a cover or ticket prices or bar tab. It's fun and the only time I gamble. Probably won't do it this year with money being tight, but we'll see.
Moved down to 17.5 already. Nice to see us getting a little respect
Must have been a stack of VT money coming in overnight for a 1.5 pt change this far before the season.
Looks like I missed the boat on that.
I could put $100 on that easy.
Dang. Down to 17.5 before I could even ask how do you make a bet from VA. I don't gamble but -19 I could put 20 on.
The difference between-19 and -17.5 is miniscule. It's not easy to win by 18 or 19 points.
Let me go Han on this one...
If we survive injuries going through spring and fall, we will give the Buckeyes a good game. I just not think this team will play scared. It has the feel of what the Miami game use to feel like when we were on top. I want to see our offense play physical. I can't wait to see teller roll up a linebacker in a gray helmet white jersey.
Eziekel to have second wrist surgery. Likely out for spring.
If the line stays at least -14.5 or more, I know I'm personally throwing down at least $500
I am def taking this bet, even if we do somehow lose it aint gonna be by no dag on 20 points.
Can the public bet on the game yet in Vegas? I am not sure how it works when can someone place a bet? I have no doubt in my mind that the Hokies wont lose by three touchdowns in Blacksburg that just wont happen! Easy money
last year I won 20 bucks just betting anOSU wouldn't cover the spread against us. Wish I'd just bet for us to outright win. I bet on nitrogen sports (bitcoin based site). Not sure how betting works with traceable money...
I really need to figure out a way to bet if they are going to give me a 20 point spread.