At this point in the season the VT UNC game looks like it will play a factor in deciding the coastal division. Worst case scenario is the game getting rescheduled somehow. The last VT game that was cancelled due to weather and not made up was in the early 2000's against Georgia Tech when Lee Corso's car got struck by lightning. At that point that game wasn't in conference so it wasn't super important to make up.
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I would think that the easiest solution would be to simply move the game to Lane. It would have the least impact on the ACC and ESPN schedules. The second option would be to play it at a different time and/or day.
Since we've already had a bye week, there's no other weekend to move it to.
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this makes the most sense to me...knowing Whit and Fuente I'm sure they're already preparing for an earlier-than-planned kick time...I actually like our odds even more given the uncertainty of when the game will occur
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They should move the game to Blacksburg. Lane Stadium and field can handle the water, remember the Miami game of years ago. The underground hydration/de-hydration systems works to perfection. Bring it home...to Blacksburg!
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Younger Hokies might not be aware, but VT played a game against Texas A&M in the remains of a hurricane in the early 2000's at Lane. Maybe the NCAA policy is if they can swim, they can play? As long as Lee Corso's car isn't around? The water pouring down the stands was insane, but it was a great game atmosphere. A punt was almost the most dangerous play in the game because the wind was swirling so strong, nobody could figure out where it was going to field it. I know A&M fumbled one, maybe two during the game. Pretty certain D.Hall muffed one too.
I'm still waiting for my BCA game refund from that cancelled game, by the way.
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I believe that was Isabelle. I had gone over to my father's to watch the game because we had lost power and as soon as the game came on so did he. Ended up listening to it on a battery operated radio. I remember Kevin Jones having a big game. The hurricane wrecked the central VA area. We were out of power for 16 days.
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I was 10 when Isabel rolled through but I remember all of the debris and damage. She was the strongest storm of that season but if I remember correctly I think she had dropped to a tropical storm by the time she hit Hampton Roads.
Gotta say, having the NC coast to take the brunt of the storm has probably saved Hampton Roads a lot of money and probably lives too. Seems like every hurricane I can remember that actually hit the area skirted the coast of SC, made landfall around the Wilmington area and headed straight overland through NC and VA.
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Yep, 2003. Ship just pulled in (right behind storm) and I was by myself in Virginia Beach (wife was up in Shenandoah County where it was "safe"). That storm didn't do the typical northeast curve, but barreled inland sort of north-westerly.
We'd lost some shingles & siding at the apartment, but there was worse damage around. Not sure if that was the same storm where half the cars at the base were under 6 feet of water (we got pictures on the ship and couldn't do anything but watch).
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Yes very much so. We just used latex house paint so it came off in a stringy mess. At least we didn't have to clean it out of the drains in east AJ afterwards.
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Good memories there - we knew that paint was coming off in short order, but that never stopped the Navs from having a painted contigency. A close second to how wet I was that game was I think BC 2007.
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That was my Rat year in the HT's and they wouldn't allow us to do our field show since they were concerned about the band doing damage to the grass(?). After we did The Walk they allowed us to put our rain jackets on over our Dress A's but by the time we got to them in the stands they were soaked as were our blue blouses so they did nothing.
Still had a good time and it was the first AME game I saw and it looked so badass. It was the wettest game I experienced until 2007 Boston College. Fuck Matt Ryan.
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Still one of the most fun games I ever attended. The rain was coming down in sheets and sideways but no one seemed to care. Lane was rocking until the end that night.
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Yep, 2003, my freshman year. Drank so much in Pritchard that my roommate looked at lost his classes in the storm and couldn't see the game. It was awesome sitting in that hurricane.
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Yep, Isabelle. That was a crazy game. I have never been so drenched in my life. Granted, the remnants of Isabelle that we got in Blacksburg that year I don't believe will be on the same level as what we're looking at this weekend, if the storm stays on course.
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Was there for Isabell. Great crowd and incredible water flowing down the East side. However, because of the raised field, water on the field was not an issue.
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Plus we have a very good drainage system on the field. I think during that game they said it was capable of dealing with 16 inches of rain per hour because of the vacuum system. Assuming it's still able to handle that much water today.
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Yep, I was at that game and BC in '07. I knew I had a memory of rain water flowing past my feet but I was young. Wore a pair of Nike Shox or something that were porous and was drenched from head to toe even with a jacket and a poncho on. Everybody stood the whole game. Awesome memory
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That A&M game was fantastic. I was only 11 or so, but I remember my dad convinced my mom to let him take my brother and I to the game to "get away from the storm" in Richmond. My mom had zero interest in attending, but wow that was fun. We just pummeled them in a complete downpour. And by the time I got back home, the storm was gone.
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That game was so much fun. My fraternity even tailgated for that game in the very back of the commuter lot. That basically consisted of us standing under a tarp strung between two trucks drinking a ton beer and eating Doritos. We had a far more elaborate menu initially planned, but it got scraped. A few us sprinted to the Burger King in GBJ to get something hot to eat.
The game itself was amazing. The atmosphere was crazy. I was in the NEZ which had basically turned into giant slip & slide. Definitely lots of people falling while trying to jump for Enter Sandman. Certainly a game I will never forget.
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I miss that burger king so much. I'm pretty sure every time we had a group meeting upstairs it ended with a double whopper. No way you could smell that for an hour and not be hungry after. Subway bread smell just doesn't stack up at all.
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It was definitely Isabel in 2003 on a Thursday night. We were huddled around a radio in our neighbor's house listening to the game, I distinctly remember hearing about the "onside kick" caused by our kickoff (into the 35+mph winds) flying over all the blockers and turning back upfield before bouncing. The returners couldn't get to it, and the blockers weren't looking for it, but our players saw it and fell on it for great field position.
I need to go back and find a replay for that again, it's been a while.
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Hurricane Isabel. Couldn't have been more convenient for me: I evacuated the OBX to Lane Stadium for the A&M game. The energy in the stadium that night was amazing.
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It will have to be soon so that Tech can make sure they have a fully staffed stadium, security on hand, etc. Lots of logistics to figure out, especially if the regular game day employees were planning to have the day off.
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Can't embed cause I'm on mobile but VT twitter just tweeted that they'll keep fans posted about any type of contingency plan. They're definitely aware of the possibility. Seems like it would be smart to start making preparations, even if it doesn't end up happening
edit: ACC has stated it's too early in the week to decide on whether the game needs to be postponed or moved.
sauce: Mike Barber and his Twitter page
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ACC: Too early in week to say if Saturday's No 25 #Hokies at No 17 UNC game will need to be moved or posptoned because of Hurricane Matthew.— Mike Barber (@RTD_MikeBarber) October 4, 2016
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I remember the Isabelle game very much too. We were living in Newport News then as soon as we heard the storm was headed our way, the wife and cat packed up and went to Winston-Salem and stayed with her daughter & son in law who were doing their Masters at Wake. I stayed to "protect" the house. Wife said, "what're you going to do - go up in the attic and hold the roof down?" NTL, minimal damage occurred and I listened also on a battery radio with signal going in & out. Unbeknown to me, she called her sister in Michigan & got her to tape the game & overnight it to me so I got to watch it 2 days after the storm. The kids were at the Corso game and got caught up in the swarm trying to leave Lane & her dau had a panic attack right in the middle of the bumping & banging crowd.
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I was in Newport News also. I had graduated in May 03 and was living with my parents at the time. I was going to go to the game, but my dad took me up on the offer to stay and help. I figured I'd watch on TV. We lost power. I had to listen to the game on the radio.
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That was my junior year at Tech, and I was in those stands. I remember calling my dad right before gametime to see how things were back at home... and his phone cut off maybe 3 minutes into the conversation.
I still enjoyed the game immensely, but that was a bit unnerving.
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I heard about this on NPR yesterday. It's a preemptive measure to allow NC farmers to get their harvest in before Matthew hits...if Matthew hits. They still aren't sure of the storm's track yet. But declaring a state of emergency lifts all size, weight and hours of service restrictions on agricultural vehicles. It also allows the state to invoke price gouging protections, so gas stations can't sell gas at five bucks a gallon and grocery stores can't charge ten bucks for a loaf of bread.
This is a strategic move, not a reactionary one.
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No North Carolina... No Krispy Kreme. You're welcome.
Looking at the weather situation through my no-meteorological-credentials-whatsoever lenses, it looks like Chapel Hill will mostly be affected during the early to late afternoon hours.
I would imagine, if any pre-emptive schedule change is being considered, contingencies should be put into place for a 7:30 - 8:00pm kickoff. ESPN could bump the ESPNU game to ESPNNews, and show this one on the U.
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I would venture than moving it earlier would be better for the state if the game stayed at Chapel Hill. Law enforcement and fans (of both teams) would be more concerned with cleanup, power outages, and looking for lost people at 7:30 pm Saturday.
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Eh, that joke had minimal political content. The only way politics would get involved would be if some dingbat with no sense of humor couldn't control themselves and launched into a politic tirade. I like to think that folks here have enough self-control/social awareness to avoid that.
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The Community Guidelines say "Don't discuss politics or religion." It doesn't say that "a little politics or religion is ok until it baits a conversation about politics or religion".
Ergo, don't talk politics or religion on TKP
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And there isn't any discussion going on. A joke and having a discussion is different and is usually predicated on multiple participants.
I agree that no one wants to see political/religious discussion, but the joke is different and is easy to differentiate from a serious attempt at conversation. I would have thought this was a particularly easy example to decipher.
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It's dead-red politics season in the real world. I, for one, don't want any part of that coming here, period. End.
It's one thing to use a well-known trope to comment on something, e.g. "Make VT Stick It In Again" is topical, neutral, and funny as hell. It's another to just try to make a joke about a controversial topic for the hell of it when it's completely unrelated to the topic at hand.
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Yeah, I understand it, certain topics can get nasty, just believe there is an ambiguous grey area of sorts. Regardless, I mainly lurk and upvote stuff, and upvoting stuff isn't against guidelines.
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I gave him a leg too because I thought it was harmless and funny, but I agree it only takes one comment taken the wrong way before the unproductive political discussions arguments begin.
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Wow i really wish i knew what was said. All of this discussion is making me curious, in a good way. I never liked being left on the outside of an inside joke.
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My brother-in-law is getting married in Virginia Beach this weekend and they're honeymooning in Aruba, which was hit by the hurricane AND my name is Matthew. So I'm going to be a popular guy this weekend!
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Have fun in the wind and rain. I live in Chesapeake and am glad that I will be attending a conference in Blacksburg this weekend instead of being at home!
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I imagine they'll have to pull the trigger today or tomorrow at the latest if they're going to move it to Lane, which makes the most sense to me. We'll just be the "away" team...lol.
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Sh!t it'll be an emergency next Saturday when we hurricane up into Northern Carolina and dump forty inches of points on the Tar Heels. Better bring your umbrella Northern Carolina. It's going to be windy in the stadium, too, because of the hurricane.
This analogy didn't go as far as I would have hoped.
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While the headline is flashy, as IllinoisHokie said, if you read the article even the state doesn't even seem to think it's very likely to happen. This is just a precaution so that farmers who have already had significant crop damage this year due to storms can work like crazy to get their crops planted before the storm comes in, just in case. It also prevents price gouging, in the event that something does happen.
From the governor, "We're going to do everything we can to be over-prepared and hopefully underwhelmed".
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Since the possibility exists, what's the protocol for flipping the game site to Blacksburg? Do we get to perform normal home game festivities (sandman, Hokie walk, HTs, etc) or will it be "neutral"?
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A lot would probably depend on resources and weather in the burg. If there's any significant rain, they would probably forgo any pregame/halftime performances. At best, the bands will play in the stands.
Beyond that, I don't think there's any precedent for Tech flipping a game site.
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So does anyone really know how likely it is that the game will be moved to Blacksburg and when the latest they would announce that would be? I'll already be on campus for the fall open house this weekend that ends at 3, just in time for a 3:30 game. I'd imagine there would be a lot of others at the open house that would be willing to stick around for the game if it was moved as well.
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Could the game logistically be moved to Thursday or Friday night? I assume they would have to make an announcement by tomorrow morning, I just don't know how much that throws off game preparations and whether everybody could get there in time.
EDIT: Just checked the schedule and realized that NC State, Duke and UNC all have home games this weekend so I am sure the ACC office is scrambling.
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For those wondering, I highly doubt this game gets moved to Blacksburg, if only because of the ripple effects it will have with the other games in the area
NCSU is home on Saturday against Notre Dame at 12:00
UNC is home on Saturday against Virginia Tech at 3:30
Duke is home on Saturday against Army at 3:30
Wake is home on Saturday against Syracuse at 7:00
Not to mention
South Carolina is home on Saturday against Georgia at 7:30
If you move our game to Blacksburg, you have to move the others. Duke and Wake moving probably isn't a big deal all things considered, but you just know that NCSU would throw an absolute shitfit if they lost their once in a blue moon chance to play ND at home. For that alone, I can't see our games moving.
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I think the most likely scenario, IF the current forecast holds, is to change the time of kickoff, possibly to Friday night. I just can't imagine unc being willing to give up a home game, especially when this game is suddenly pretty big.
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I would think it is up the ACC office as 4 games are impacted. The ND-NCSU is the trickiest of the bunch and I could see NCSU refusing to move the game since they do not play ND at home again until 2023. They do play @ND next year which they may be able to switch but ND may have some issues with that as well. Maybe the best bet for that particular game is to play it Thursday night.
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Just to consider what options there are...even though I know that some are a little out there.
NC State/Notre Dame could be flipped to South Bend, and then they will just adjust by flipping next year's game to NC State.
Plus, that game, and the Duke/Army game could be flat out cancelled. They're not conference games, and none of the teams involved are having good enough seasons where an extra non-conference game could boost them up. Well, except that they might need that last game to get bowl eligible. They could also move those games to December 3 if it's determined that those teams won't be playing in Orlando (although NC State is technically still in control of their destiny in the Atlantic).
All that being said, moving games would mean that the weather conditions are so bad that public safety is at risk, and moving people to and from the stadiums would be hazardous.
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Army football is 3-1 so far and need every shot at a win they can get since they are an independent that relies solely on a handful of bowls contingency factors to get into one so I cant see them wanting a cancellation.
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From my Pack Backer sources they are strongly considering moving the game to Friday. I live in Chapel Hill. Hopefully people are considering the same for our game.
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Ok so it appears that it's going to rain, and rain a lot. How do we feel about a game that revolves around running the rock? UNC has a couple of experienced, talented RB's. VT essentially has four solid options for who they will be handing the ball off to. How does this game play out if there is going to torrential rain and the passing game gets all but eliminated?
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I'd have to think that the way our offense likes to get defenders out of position, a sloppy field would make it even harder for them to recover. Advantage Hokies.
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one of my UNC buddies said Elijah hood is out as well. so that def helps. either way at the end of the day if they play a monsoon game someone (and hopefully us) will walk away stealing one here. the run game is neither us nor UNCs strength.
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Logan is pretty good and a strong runner. At the same time though, I don't see them getting as many yards on the ground, unless it's rainy and turns into a ground game with little to no passing. FSU's D is no bueno compared to Tech. UNC's looks even more miserable.
According to Football Outsiders:
TEAM / TOTAL S&P and RANK / RUSH S&P and RANK
VT / 14.6 - 7 / 116.3 - 27
FSU / 31.7 - 79 / 101.2 - 65
UNC / 34.6 - 101 / 91.1 - 100
(sorry, I have no idea how to make a fancy table.)
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Game will either be moved to Friday night at UNC or Saturday in Blacksburg..
the idea to move it to Sunday is a 1/2 ass idea and you run the risk of moving it to have to cancel the whole thing. If you're going to do anything its going to happen before it comes (Friday) or move out of state (Blacksburg)
Moving it to Blacksburg wouldn't be that hard to do in terms of getting the teams ready and in town. Flights and Hotels would be needed and ESPN would have to re route the TV stuff to VA..
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I would think playing on Friday night at UNC would make the most sense logistically...the only real downside is that the fans are put in a tough spot to get to the game on time. Given UNC's attendance vs Pitt I don't really see how a Friday night game would have significantly worse attendance though
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I also agree it will be either later today or tomorrow morning if they make changes . I think there will be changes I just don't know what they will be . My money is on a Friday game
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I see a lot of people saying that moving it to Blacksburg would be a good idea but doesn't the path of the storm basically keep going north? if it hits chapel hill wouldn't it just keep on moving a few hours north and hit bburg a little later depending on the speed of the storm? im no meteorologist but just curious?
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I'm not a meteorologist either, but from what I've read is that it will track along the coastline. There is a pressure system above the United States that pushes it back east once it starts turning inland.
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no, it goes north east along the coast (most of the time). Only in rare instances do hurricanes veer west enough to really hit blacksburg whereas they expect the eye to roll right through the triangle. So it's the difference between the full brunt of a slow moving, rain dumping storm trudging through Chapel Hill and some peripheral rain (if any) sprinkling the burg.
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Saturday's game is still on as scheduled. Any updates/changes due to Hurricane Matthew will be posted here and on @GoHeels.— Carolina Football (@TarHeelFootball) October 4, 2016
From UNC
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Are we sure they A) can read the advisories coming from NHC B) understand what a hurricane is C) some student advisor didn't write that statement for them?
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Hurricane Matthew will begin affecting Central NC as early as Friday morning
Emphasis is mine, but that makes it a lot harder to justify a Friday game. I've heard that the hurricane is speeding up as it makes its way north so...
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Friday there will be rain from outer of stuff when they mean it will be affecting but there will be a big difference between a game on Friday and Saturday when you look at amount of rainfall and winds . That is of course with current projections
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So new update from WRAL.... the eye of the storm is starting to look like its taking dead aim on the NC Triangle, and would potentially be on top of us right around kickoff for the game....
So.... not the best news
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The line for this game has jumped from Heels -6.5 to Heels -2.5 today. Maybe Vegas knows that the game will be moved to Blacksburg, and is adjusting the home field advantage accordingly.
(This theory has absolutely no basis in fact, but I think it sounds awesome.)
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honestly, logistics-wise, that seems like the simplest option. Sure, it throws a wrench in things as far as records and whatnot are concerned, but the focus needs to be safety right now and if they keep putting off the decision to move the game to Blacksburg (please oh please oh please oh please), they'll reach a point where it's not really feasible to do that either.
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Since it's a conference game, in division, between two teams perceived to have a real chance at winning the division, I think not. It will likely be moved up. Canceling and rescheduling would be really difficult, I would think.
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Honestly... situations like this are why you should have 1 week delay between the end of the season and the Conference Title games. Best case, you allow both schools to go into the game fresh hopefully putting on a better show. Worst case, you get to use that week to make up games that were postponed from earlier in the year.
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I have to wonder... if this game does get moved to Blacksburg, would the ACC compensate UNC by moving next year's game to Chapel Hill?
I really, really don't want to see this game moved to a half filled Lane with a neutered atmosphere where we're not allowed to have the festivities of being the home team if it means UNC gets 2 home games in a row over the next 2 years....
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well if they can make the decision sooner rather than later, then maybe people will have time to make plans to attend. I hear a lot of folks from FL, SC, and NC are gonna be on the road this weekend anyway...
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The case can also be made that moving the game to Blacksburg puts the logistical burden of hosting the game back on the Hokies, and a dicey situation like this may actually make playing at home a disadvantage.
Sometimes, if all you have to worry about is showing up, you're better off.
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Official forecast too far W & too fast. Red symbols & track E = my forecast (FOR NOW!)...Prepare in case I am wrong. pic.twitter.com/sG14v0JTEo— Jeff Lawson 13News (@13JeffLawson) October 4, 2016
Local weather guy in Hampton Roads. I hope that is correct.
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'EVERYTHING'S ON THE TABLE' FOR HURRICANE MATTHEW AFFECTING NOTRE DAME-NC STATE KICKOFF
By JJ STANKEVITZ October 04, 2016 3:25 PM
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SOUTH BEND, Ind. — Hurricane Matthew could affect this weekend's Notre Dame-North Carolina State game, with Irish coach Brian Kelly saying Tuesday "everything's on the table" with regard to adjusting the kickoff time in Raleigh.
As of now, Notre Dame, North Carolina State and the ACC haven't moved the kickoff time from noon E.T. Saturday. But Kelly said Notre Dame has given North Carolina State and the ACC a 24-hour window for playing the game from noon E.T. Saturday through noon E.T. Sunday.
"We feel like anything after noon on Sunday starts to encroach on our ability to prepare for Stanford," Kelly said.
Kelly said playing the game Friday night has not been discussed, but he and Irish officials will have a conference call Tuesday afternoon to discuss further possibilities. If everything is on the table, as Kelly said, that could (but doesn't necessarily) mean moving the game from Raleigh as well.
Weather Underground's five-day forecast projects Hurricane Matthew to make landfall in southeastern North Carolina at 8 a.m. Saturday as a Category 1 storm with winds between 74 and 95 mph. Raleigh is about 200 miles from the Atlantic Ocean but still could be affected by the storm, with Weather Underground predicting 1.82 inches of rain with sustained winds of 20-30 mph.
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Kind of funny that ND is the one wearing the pants in that conversation. I can see Swofford looking nervous with pen and pad handy to jot down demands. "Yes, sir, we can do that, sir. Thank you."
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Grocery stores here are a zoo. Already feels like a pre-evacuation. Barring a hard right turn, they aren't playing in Chapel Hill on Sat. https://t.co/DmCdZ48V27— Kyle Bailey (@KyleBaileyRadio) October 4, 2016
@bmac681@DavidTeelatDP no. LSU-USC got moved to USC last year. They'd move it to Blacksburg, if they move it at all. We're being evacuated.— Kyle Bailey (@KyleBaileyRadio) October 4, 2016
Insight from someone on the ground in Charleston
edit:
Also sounds like the next time the ACC is going to talk about this is Thursday?...That seems way too late
#ACC officials have scheduled another call, Thursday afternoon, to revisit weather issues. Can move earlier if merited.— David Teel (@DavidTeelatDP) October 4, 2016
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I'm gonna guess it'll be a Sunday kickoff. UNC won't want to move it and going earlier won't help anything. Just sucks because the NFL is on at the same time so nobody will be watching.
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Why have a game on Sunday when there could be massive power outages and emergency response crews will be needed elsewhere. It makes more sense to have the game earlier than later.
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Yep... Sunday is probably completely out of the question if this gets moved. First responders will be mobilized elsewhere, and there won't be enough left to work our game, let alone the games at Duke and NCSU as well.
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So it's either Thursday (which is when the ACC is scheduled to talk about this again) or move it to Blacksburg. Right? That's the only two viable options I can imagine
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Yeah, I mean you're talking about 5 ACC schools that are going to be directly impacted by this. There has to be a way to just delay these games to the end of the season, and push the championship game out a week. This is actually easier to do with Orlando not having an NFL team than it would have been in Charlotte.
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Games going to be in Blacksburg people!!!!! I don't see any other option, my guess is UNC and VT have been told. They're working on all the arrangements needed to make this happen and Thursday am it will be announced.
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That's actually backwards. They moved it to LSU last year. There's no way they cancel the game. I'd be willing to betake it's played in Blacksburg on Saturday at 330. So much so that I'm booking a hotel room. Will probably be the first & last time you can stay in Blacksburg for a conference game while booking the week of the game.
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Thursday sounds way too late. If they were move it to Friday then you're leaving the teams to make last second changes which I'd think the coaches would hate or if you move to Blacksburg I'm sure NC wouldn't be happy
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Well, over the course of the 2012, 2013 seasons, Duke had to play 2 away games at Lane, and the Hokies had to go to Miami twice in a row. This was done to accomodate Pittsburgh and Cuse coming aboard?
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I'm thinking we are going to get screwed on this deal. Guessing game will be cancelled and no make up. UNCheat gets out of losing to VT. They bet that they have a higher ranking at the end of the season and get to play Clemson for ACC champioship.
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Either way they are going to be losing money on ticket sales. I imagine UNC would refund their tickets and then VT would sell General Admission tickets. I doubt we would get more than 30k on short notice traveling during a storm.
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There are 25K undergrads in Blacksburg that would love an excuse to tailgate and have an extra home game. Lots of Hokie fans in Blacksburg. Even more in the surrounding area. I bet we could get upwards of 50K if they announce it sooner rather than later.
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BREAKING - Due to weather concerns. SC State's Saturday game wtih Bethune-Cookman has been postponed to a date later in the season.— Reggie Anderson (@ReggieWLTX) October 4, 2016
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Bubba Cunningham says every effort will be made to play UNC-VT as scheduled on Saturday. His statement: pic.twitter.com/oQuTYVSq85— Andrew Carter (@_andrewcarter) October 4, 2016
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My hope is they've already made the call so at least the school's can get the ball rolling on logistics for playing in Blacksburg Saturday. If they're legitimately putting this off til the last minute then they are all idiots.
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Can you blame them? We would lose our minds if we were in their situation and had to give up a home game when trying to compete for a division title, especially against a team that is in the top 25. They'll move the game if thats what it comes down to but they won't be happy about it and I certainly wouldn't be if I were them.
It is (was?) going to be a game where they were going to get great attendance, might be their premier recruiting weekend of the season, and again get home-field advantage. If the ACC is waiting till Thursday we clearly told them we could get it ready (no way it gets cancelled) in 2 days. So if I'm UNC I'd definitely wait until the forecast was a little more certain and I knew I was going to get crushed by the storm
Side note (might be influencing their opinion) that would be a hell of a three week stretch. On the road @#12 FSU @#25 VT @#10 Miami
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Am I the only one who had to look up who Bubba Cunningham was? I mean seriously, the most UNC thing ever, an Athletic Director named Bubba Cunningham, it just screams mismanagement.
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So let's say they play this game during the hurricane. Does anyone have an idea of if UNC will offer refunds for tickets for those of us who don't think that it is a good idea to drive in a hurricane or am I going to be screwed out of that money?
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Well depends. Did you buy the tickets through the UNC athletic department? If you did you might get face value. If not, fat chance. If you got them through StubHub or another reseller you're SOL if you didn't pay for their insurance on your ticket.
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I have experience as someone that lives on a barrier island. Sandy's eye officially touched down 5 blocks(the short side of the rectangle) from me. Also, I am a licensed pilot and spent multiple years in school studying weather as required.
The current probabilities show Chapel Hill at the far reaches of any wind at 40 mph (which is really not that bad), with the storm tracking further east. I suspect it will track further offshore and weaken immensely. Meaning the game should be played at the time and location scheduled.
Also, for everyone inclinded to do so, www.intellicast.com should be your only source of weather information. Their app for iphone/pad & andriod is called Storm.
General Rule of Thumb regarding weather.. if someone is talking about it on the news they receive their information from here but add their own sensationalism and are always wrong.
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It could... but the odds of that happening are actively shrinking. At this time yesterday the model had the storm track going right over Raleigh, and now it looks like it might maybe touch the coast. That's definitely good news
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All - just a FYI, we don't need to have the updates for at least the NOAA model posted.... looks like the embedded images in here are automatically updating.
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It's also getting freaky when the page loads, but the images are slower, so the page keeps jumping, and I keep seeing the same map, but suddenly different comments.
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Does the NCAA have a policy when it comes to hurricanes? I could only find stuff about lightning and delaying the game.
Or does anyone know what's happened in the past? Are games just cancelled forever or can they move up a day...they could always play in Lane.
Last year -- LSU at South Carolina moved to LSU due to flooding.
http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2015/10/7/9469019/south-carolin...
At this point in the season the VT UNC game looks like it will play a factor in deciding the coastal division. Worst case scenario is the game getting rescheduled somehow. The last VT game that was cancelled due to weather and not made up was in the early 2000's against Georgia Tech when Lee Corso's car got struck by lightning. At that point that game wasn't in conference so it wasn't super important to make up.
Yeah GT came to my mind! Thanks for the information guys.
I would think that the easiest solution would be to simply move the game to Lane. It would have the least impact on the ACC and ESPN schedules. The second option would be to play it at a different time and/or day.
Since we've already had a bye week, there's no other weekend to move it to.
Make it general admission for students. That would be great
Blacksburg may get some pretty nasty weather too, though. Depends on what this storm does.
I don't think Blacksburg will be bad. The front will push the storm off to the NE after it makes landfall.
Chapel Hill will be worse than Blacksburg.
The NCAA is known to be fairly lenient on Hurricanes and they completely turn a blind eye for tarheels
Hahahahaha.
Nice.
I have a #sauce(s) and it is possible the game will be moved to friday night. Very much just a possibility though...nothing concrete.
this makes the most sense to me...knowing Whit and Fuente I'm sure they're already preparing for an earlier-than-planned kick time...I actually like our odds even more given the uncertainty of when the game will occur
Considering they had their Tuesday practice on Sunday.
They should move the game to Blacksburg. Lane Stadium and field can handle the water, remember the Miami game of years ago. The underground hydration/de-hydration systems works to perfection. Bring it home...to Blacksburg!
That's what happens when people with actual degrees design your field.
Younger Hokies might not be aware, but VT played a game against Texas A&M in the remains of a hurricane in the early 2000's at Lane. Maybe the NCAA policy is if they can swim, they can play? As long as Lee Corso's car isn't around? The water pouring down the stands was insane, but it was a great game atmosphere. A punt was almost the most dangerous play in the game because the wind was swirling so strong, nobody could figure out where it was going to field it. I know A&M fumbled one, maybe two during the game. Pretty certain D.Hall muffed one too.
I'm still waiting for my BCA game refund from that cancelled game, by the way.
Goodness that sounds intense! Great detailed post of the game. I can imagine being there for that.
I believe that was Isabelle. I had gone over to my father's to watch the game because we had lost power and as soon as the game came on so did he. Ended up listening to it on a battery operated radio. I remember Kevin Jones having a big game. The hurricane wrecked the central VA area. We were out of power for 16 days.
I was doing the same. I was in Norfolk during that storm and cleaned up debris for a week!
I was 7 and was listening to it on a battery powered radio as well, beside a candle. If I could go back in time I would have loved to go to that game.
I was 10 when Isabel rolled through but I remember all of the debris and damage. She was the strongest storm of that season but if I remember correctly I think she had dropped to a tropical storm by the time she hit Hampton Roads.
Gotta say, having the NC coast to take the brunt of the storm has probably saved Hampton Roads a lot of money and probably lives too. Seems like every hurricane I can remember that actually hit the area skirted the coast of SC, made landfall around the Wilmington area and headed straight overland through NC and VA.
I remember that aTm game (somewhat). It was a day after my 21st birthday. Great memories.
Apparently not good enough if you still have memories
Yep, 2003. Ship just pulled in (right behind storm) and I was by myself in Virginia Beach (wife was up in Shenandoah County where it was "safe"). That storm didn't do the typical northeast curve, but barreled inland sort of north-westerly.
We'd lost some shingles & siding at the apartment, but there was worse damage around. Not sure if that was the same storm where half the cars at the base were under 6 feet of water (we got pictures on the ship and couldn't do anything but watch).
That was the first tech game I ever attended. Painted up for it too with guys from my bible study. It was quite the experience...
Did the paint run off in the rain?
Now, you should know better. Those colors never run.
Yes very much so. We just used latex house paint so it came off in a stringy mess. At least we didn't have to clean it out of the drains in east AJ afterwards.
Good memories there - we knew that paint was coming off in short order, but that never stopped the Navs from having a painted contigency. A close second to how wet I was that game was I think BC 2007.
That was my Rat year in the HT's and they wouldn't allow us to do our field show since they were concerned about the band doing damage to the grass(?). After we did The Walk they allowed us to put our rain jackets on over our Dress A's but by the time we got to them in the stands they were soaked as were our blue blouses so they did nothing.
Still had a good time and it was the first AME game I saw and it looked so badass. It was the wettest game I experienced until 2007 Boston College. Fuck Matt Ryan.
I remember practicing on the drillfield before the game as the tuba section led us on working out "Rock Me Like a Hurricane".
Still one of the most fun games I ever attended. The rain was coming down in sheets and sideways but no one seemed to care. Lane was rocking until the end that night.
Yep, 2003, my freshman year. Drank so much in Pritchard that my roommate looked at lost his classes in the storm and couldn't see the game. It was awesome sitting in that hurricane.
drunk posting about being drunk. you're so meta.
Yep, Isabelle. That was a crazy game. I have never been so drenched in my life. Granted, the remnants of Isabelle that we got in Blacksburg that year I don't believe will be on the same level as what we're looking at this weekend, if the storm stays on course.
Was there for Isabell. Great crowd and incredible water flowing down the East side. However, because of the raised field, water on the field was not an issue.
Plus we have a very good drainage system on the field. I think during that game they said it was capable of dealing with 16 inches of rain per hour because of the vacuum system. Assuming it's still able to handle that much water today.
Yep, I was at that game and BC in '07. I knew I had a memory of rain water flowing past my feet but I was young. Wore a pair of Nike Shox or something that were porous and was drenched from head to toe even with a jacket and a poncho on. Everybody stood the whole game. Awesome memory
You must not remember the same game I do
Obligatory fuck Matt Ryan post
Seriously though, fuck Matt Ryan
But seriously
That A&M game was fantastic. I was only 11 or so, but I remember my dad convinced my mom to let him take my brother and I to the game to "get away from the storm" in Richmond. My mom had zero interest in attending, but wow that was fun. We just pummeled them in a complete downpour. And by the time I got back home, the storm was gone.
That game was so much fun. My fraternity even tailgated for that game in the very back of the commuter lot. That basically consisted of us standing under a tarp strung between two trucks drinking a ton beer and eating Doritos. We had a far more elaborate menu initially planned, but it got scraped. A few us sprinted to the Burger King in GBJ to get something hot to eat.
The game itself was amazing. The atmosphere was crazy. I was in the NEZ which had basically turned into giant slip & slide. Definitely lots of people falling while trying to jump for Enter Sandman. Certainly a game I will never forget.
I miss that burger king so much. I'm pretty sure every time we had a group meeting upstairs it ended with a double whopper. No way you could smell that for an hour and not be hungry after. Subway bread smell just doesn't stack up at all.
It was definitely Isabel in 2003 on a Thursday night. We were huddled around a radio in our neighbor's house listening to the game, I distinctly remember hearing about the "onside kick" caused by our kickoff (into the 35+mph winds) flying over all the blockers and turning back upfield before bouncing. The returners couldn't get to it, and the blockers weren't looking for it, but our players saw it and fell on it for great field position.
I need to go back and find a replay for that again, it's been a while.
Hurricane Isabel. Couldn't have been more convenient for me: I evacuated the OBX to Lane Stadium for the A&M game. The energy in the stadium that night was amazing.
Damn the heels are so scared of us they conjuring up a hurricane? I thought that was just a da U tactic
So how far in advance do they make a decision concerning a change in game location, ...if it comes down to that??
It will have to be soon so that Tech can make sure they have a fully staffed stadium, security on hand, etc. Lots of logistics to figure out, especially if the regular game day employees were planning to have the day off.
Can't embed cause I'm on mobile but VT twitter just tweeted that they'll keep fans posted about any type of contingency plan. They're definitely aware of the possibility. Seems like it would be smart to start making preparations, even if it doesn't end up happening
edit: ACC has stated it's too early in the week to decide on whether the game needs to be postponed or moved.
sauce: Mike Barber and his Twitter page
Got ya.
Per the EDIT:
I remember the Isabelle game very much too. We were living in Newport News then as soon as we heard the storm was headed our way, the wife and cat packed up and went to Winston-Salem and stayed with her daughter & son in law who were doing their Masters at Wake. I stayed to "protect" the house. Wife said, "what're you going to do - go up in the attic and hold the roof down?" NTL, minimal damage occurred and I listened also on a battery radio with signal going in & out. Unbeknown to me, she called her sister in Michigan & got her to tape the game & overnight it to me so I got to watch it 2 days after the storm. The kids were at the Corso game and got caught up in the swarm trying to leave Lane & her dau had a panic attack right in the middle of the bumping & banging crowd.
I was in Newport News also. I had graduated in May 03 and was living with my parents at the time. I was going to go to the game, but my dad took me up on the offer to stay and help. I figured I'd watch on TV. We lost power. I had to listen to the game on the radio.
BAD NEWZ STAND UP!
That was my junior year at Tech, and I was in those stands. I remember calling my dad right before gametime to see how things were back at home... and his phone cut off maybe 3 minutes into the conversation.
I still enjoyed the game immensely, but that was a bit unnerving.
I heard about this on NPR yesterday. It's a preemptive measure to allow NC farmers to get their harvest in before Matthew hits...if Matthew hits. They still aren't sure of the storm's track yet. But declaring a state of emergency lifts all size, weight and hours of service restrictions on agricultural vehicles. It also allows the state to invoke price gouging protections, so gas stations can't sell gas at five bucks a gallon and grocery stores can't charge ten bucks for a loaf of bread.
This is a strategic move, not a reactionary one.
NC doing something strategically smart?
...careful...
No North Carolina... No Krispy Kreme. You're welcome.
Looking at the weather situation through my no-meteorological-credentials-whatsoever lenses, it looks like Chapel Hill will mostly be affected during the early to late afternoon hours.
I would imagine, if any pre-emptive schedule change is being considered, contingencies should be put into place for a 7:30 - 8:00pm kickoff. ESPN could bump the ESPNU game to ESPNNews, and show this one on the U.
I would venture than moving it earlier would be better for the state if the game stayed at Chapel Hill. Law enforcement and fans (of both teams) would be more concerned with cleanup, power outages, and looking for lost people at 7:30 pm Saturday.
or move it to Friday night
Sunday day?
We could just trade time slots with the Clemson at BC game.
EDIT: Was just making joke, didn't mean to piss so many people off.
Fail.
via GIPHY
I'll shoot you a leg mate, I chuckled. To each their own I guess.
I upvoted him, mainly because my home state of North Carolina deserves all the bullshit thrown their way for this.
Politics more important than community rules. Got it.
Eh, that joke had minimal political content. The only way politics would get involved would be if some dingbat with no sense of humor couldn't control themselves and launched into a politic tirade. I like to think that folks here have enough self-control/social awareness to avoid that.
The Community Guidelines say "Don't discuss politics or religion." It doesn't say that "a little politics or religion is ok until it baits a conversation about politics or religion".
Ergo, don't talk politics or religion on TKP
And there isn't any discussion going on. A joke and having a discussion is different and is usually predicated on multiple participants.
I agree that no one wants to see political/religious discussion, but the joke is different and is easy to differentiate from a serious attempt at conversation. I would have thought this was a particularly easy example to decipher.
It's dead-red politics season in the real world. I, for one, don't want any part of that coming here, period. End.
It's one thing to use a well-known trope to comment on something, e.g. "Make VT Stick It In Again" is topical, neutral, and funny as hell. It's another to just try to make a joke about a controversial topic for the hell of it when it's completely unrelated to the topic at hand.
I suppose, I guess some of us just disagree a little bit.
So according to you, a political joke does not break the guidelines, because, semantics?I'd politely request the moderator jump in here and clarify this point for you.Annnnd.... I was 24 seconds to late. He is on the ball!
Yeah, I understand it, certain topics can get nasty, just believe there is an ambiguous grey area of sorts. Regardless, I mainly lurk and upvote stuff, and upvoting stuff isn't against guidelines.
I gave him a leg too because I thought it was harmless and funny, but I agree it only takes one comment taken the wrong way before the unproductive political
discussionsarguments begin.Aaaaand there's the politics.
For real. The political post got more legs than the joke.
Uplegged the edit to remove potentially controversial content.
Same. And to you for doing so.
The timestamp on here tells me it took me 28 minutes and 31 seconds to realize Uplegged is pronounced Up-legged. Not You-plegged... I get it now
Wow i really wish i knew what was said. All of this discussion is making me curious, in a good way. I never liked being left on the outside of an inside joke.
It was a joke about bathrooms in NC, and therefore was a bit too political for this venue.
Hey I thought it was funny but it has no place in here.
My brother-in-law is getting married in Virginia Beach this weekend and they're honeymooning in Aruba, which was hit by the hurricane AND my name is Matthew. So I'm going to be a popular guy this weekend!
Have fun in the wind and rain. I live in Chesapeake and am glad that I will be attending a conference in Blacksburg this weekend instead of being at home!
I imagine they'll have to pull the trigger today or tomorrow at the latest if they're going to move it to Lane, which makes the most sense to me. We'll just be the "away" team...lol.
Sh!t it'll be an emergency next Saturday when we hurricane up into Northern Carolina and dump forty inches of points on the Tar Heels. Better bring your umbrella Northern Carolina. It's going to be windy in the stadium, too, because of the hurricane.
This analogy didn't go as far as I would have hoped.
Don't worry, you almost had something going. It's the thought that counts.
A sort of Punical Storm that devolved into a depression before fizzling out somewhere over the Atlantic Coast (Conference).
A for effort though
-Started well, that sentence.
-It got away from me, yeah.
Glad someone got it. Didn't want to be too obvious.
Hmm, I don't particularly like any action the Hokies do being described as "Hurricaning"...
hey man, you did better than any other horse could.
While the headline is flashy, as IllinoisHokie said, if you read the article even the state doesn't even seem to think it's very likely to happen. This is just a precaution so that farmers who have already had significant crop damage this year due to storms can work like crazy to get their crops planted before the storm comes in, just in case. It also prevents price gouging, in the event that something does happen.
From the governor, "We're going to do everything we can to be over-prepared and hopefully underwhelmed".
Since the possibility exists, what's the protocol for flipping the game site to Blacksburg? Do we get to perform normal home game festivities (sandman, Hokie walk, HTs, etc) or will it be "neutral"?
A lot would probably depend on resources and weather in the burg. If there's any significant rain, they would probably forgo any pregame/halftime performances. At best, the bands will play in the stands.
Beyond that, I don't think there's any precedent for Tech flipping a game site.
6 inches is a lot right?! Right?! I need to know.
The national average is about 5.7
I still prefer to use the Adam Carolla Method of measuring......rain
Depends on which scale you use:
I used to use this one, showing an average amount of rain this weekend:
But then they revised it so now it looks like you'll be getting a nice amount of rain:
BudFu gonna show up like
I see Fuente's taking good advantage of his WWE connections.
"STAND BACK, THERE'S A HURRICANE COMING THROUGH!!!"
Also? The Hurricane beat The Rock - never forget.
11AM Update
....shit....
"I do not like the Cone of Uncertainty."
Oh that's a relief. I looked out the window here in central PA and saw a big white line in the sky. This explains it.
What is the probability that the storm exits the cone of uncertainty? Just how uncertain are we?
33%
Repeating of course......
Are you ready for some Friday night football?
So does anyone really know how likely it is that the game will be moved to Blacksburg and when the latest they would announce that would be? I'll already be on campus for the fall open house this weekend that ends at 3, just in time for a 3:30 game. I'd imagine there would be a lot of others at the open house that would be willing to stick around for the game if it was moved as well.
No and no.
Is there a chance that the game may be moved to Friday night in Chapel Hill? Didn't a game get moved up last year because of a hurricane?
Could the game logistically be moved to Thursday or Friday night? I assume they would have to make an announcement by tomorrow morning, I just don't know how much that throws off game preparations and whether everybody could get there in time.
EDIT: Just checked the schedule and realized that NC State, Duke and UNC all have home games this weekend so I am sure the ACC office is scrambling.
For those wondering, I highly doubt this game gets moved to Blacksburg, if only because of the ripple effects it will have with the other games in the area
NCSU is home on Saturday against Notre Dame at 12:00
UNC is home on Saturday against Virginia Tech at 3:30
Duke is home on Saturday against Army at 3:30
Wake is home on Saturday against Syracuse at 7:00
Not to mention
South Carolina is home on Saturday against Georgia at 7:30
If you move our game to Blacksburg, you have to move the others. Duke and Wake moving probably isn't a big deal all things considered, but you just know that NCSU would throw an absolute shitfit if they lost their once in a blue moon chance to play ND at home. For that alone, I can't see our games moving.
I think the call to move the game would ultimately come down to UNC and VT. I can't imagine they'd move it if one of the teams said no.
I think the most likely scenario, IF the current forecast holds, is to change the time of kickoff, possibly to Friday night. I just can't imagine unc being willing to give up a home game, especially when this game is suddenly pretty big.
I would think it is up the ACC office as 4 games are impacted. The ND-NCSU is the trickiest of the bunch and I could see NCSU refusing to move the game since they do not play ND at home again until 2023. They do play @ND next year which they may be able to switch but ND may have some issues with that as well. Maybe the best bet for that particular game is to play it Thursday night.
Just to consider what options there are...even though I know that some are a little out there.
NC State/Notre Dame could be flipped to South Bend, and then they will just adjust by flipping next year's game to NC State.
Plus, that game, and the Duke/Army game could be flat out cancelled. They're not conference games, and none of the teams involved are having good enough seasons where an extra non-conference game could boost them up. Well, except that they might need that last game to get bowl eligible. They could also move those games to December 3 if it's determined that those teams won't be playing in Orlando (although NC State is technically still in control of their destiny in the Atlantic).
All that being said, moving games would mean that the weather conditions are so bad that public safety is at risk, and moving people to and from the stadiums would be hazardous.
Army football is 3-1 so far and need every shot at a win they can get since they are an independent that relies solely on a handful of bowls contingency factors to get into one so I cant see them wanting a cancellation.
Oh yeah, forgot that Army was actually not sucking right now.
Good, that'll make it all the sweeter when they lose to Navy
From my Pack Backer sources they are strongly considering moving the game to Friday. I live in Chapel Hill. Hopefully people are considering the same for our game.
Why don't we just go all football jamboree and play all of those games at Lane??!! /s
We could also rent out Lane Stadium North if need be. The current tenants are off this week... not that anyone up there would notice anyway.
Ok so it appears that it's going to rain, and rain a lot. How do we feel about a game that revolves around running the rock? UNC has a couple of experienced, talented RB's. VT essentially has four solid options for who they will be handing the ball off to. How does this game play out if there is going to torrential rain and the passing game gets all but eliminated?
VT's run D >>> UNC's run D
I'd have to think that the way our offense likes to get defenders out of position, a sloppy field would make it even harder for them to recover. Advantage Hokies.
one of my UNC buddies said Elijah hood is out as well. so that def helps. either way at the end of the day if they play a monsoon game someone (and hopefully us) will walk away stealing one here. the run game is neither us nor UNCs strength.
Yea but that 2nd back they had Saturday against FSU was FAST and powerful. He appeared more dangerous than Hood.
We've been playing against that other guy even longer than Hood. Logan is a known weapon.
Logan is pretty good and a strong runner. At the same time though, I don't see them getting as many yards on the ground, unless it's rainy and turns into a ground game with little to no passing. FSU's D is no bueno compared to Tech. UNC's looks even more miserable.
According to Football Outsiders:
TEAM / TOTAL S&P and RANK / RUSH S&P and RANK
VT / 14.6 - 7 / 116.3 - 27
FSU / 31.7 - 79 / 101.2 - 65
UNC / 34.6 - 101 / 91.1 - 100
(sorry, I have no idea how to make a fancy table.)
Game will either be moved to Friday night at UNC or Saturday in Blacksburg..
the idea to move it to Sunday is a 1/2 ass idea and you run the risk of moving it to have to cancel the whole thing. If you're going to do anything its going to happen before it comes (Friday) or move out of state (Blacksburg)
Moving it to Blacksburg wouldn't be that hard to do in terms of getting the teams ready and in town. Flights and Hotels would be needed and ESPN would have to re route the TV stuff to VA..
I would think playing on Friday night at UNC would make the most sense logistically...the only real downside is that the fans are put in a tough spot to get to the game on time. Given UNC's attendance vs Pitt I don't really see how a Friday night game would have significantly worse attendance though
in times/hurricane issues like this attendance is the last thing they're going to worry about.
I wouldn't be shocked if something doesn't come out later around 3-4ish or early am tomorrow.
I also agree it will be either later today or tomorrow morning if they make changes . I think there will be changes I just don't know what they will be . My money is on a Friday game
I see a lot of people saying that moving it to Blacksburg would be a good idea but doesn't the path of the storm basically keep going north? if it hits chapel hill wouldn't it just keep on moving a few hours north and hit bburg a little later depending on the speed of the storm? im no meteorologist but just curious?
I'm not a meteorologist either, but from what I've read is that it will track along the coastline. There is a pressure system above the United States that pushes it back east once it starts turning inland.
no, it goes north east along the coast (most of the time). Only in rare instances do hurricanes veer west enough to really hit blacksburg whereas they expect the eye to roll right through the triangle. So it's the difference between the full brunt of a slow moving, rain dumping storm trudging through Chapel Hill and some peripheral rain (if any) sprinkling the burg.
Shifting to Blacksburg would also be easier to keep the same TV channel and time slot.
I have another wedding to go to this saturday, so I will totally down for a Friday night game!
Got my umbrella ready for the Heels and Hurricanes! Can't use it in Lane.
From UNC
Are we sure they A) can read the advisories coming from NHC B) understand what a hurricane is C) some student advisor didn't write that statement for them?
I think they forgot about our game and think they are playing the Hurricanes and that they just adopted a new mascot named Matthew.
NWS Raleigh Noon Briefing
Emphasis is mine, but that makes it a lot harder to justify a Friday game. I've heard that the hurricane is speeding up as it makes its way north so...
Friday there will be rain from outer of stuff when they mean it will be affecting but there will be a big difference between a game on Friday and Saturday when you look at amount of rainfall and winds . That is of course with current projections
So new update from WRAL.... the eye of the storm is starting to look like its taking dead aim on the NC Triangle, and would potentially be on top of us right around kickoff for the game....
So.... not the best news
I would like to see a Friday night "home" game....I think we all remember what happened last time we played a NC school on Friday night.....
A small but vicious hurricane hit that night before kickoff as well.
The line for this game has jumped from Heels -6.5 to Heels -2.5 today. Maybe Vegas knows that the game will be moved to Blacksburg, and is adjusting the home field advantage accordingly.
(This theory has absolutely no basis in fact, but I think it sounds awesome.)
that happened Sunday, dude
Well...ok, then.
This doesn't look good from the perspective of playing on Friday night in CH.
So looks like Thursday is the best option for playing in NC. I imagine that we need to make a decision tonight if they were going to go that route.
Just curious...anyone think they would cancelled the game?
honestly, logistics-wise, that seems like the simplest option. Sure, it throws a wrench in things as far as records and whatnot are concerned, but the focus needs to be safety right now and if they keep putting off the decision to move the game to Blacksburg (please oh please oh please oh please), they'll reach a point where it's not really feasible to do that either.
Since it's a conference game, in division, between two teams perceived to have a real chance at winning the division, I think not. It will likely be moved up. Canceling and rescheduling would be really difficult, I would think.
Honestly... situations like this are why you should have 1 week delay between the end of the season and the Conference Title games. Best case, you allow both schools to go into the game fresh hopefully putting on a better show. Worst case, you get to use that week to make up games that were postponed from earlier in the year.
Doesn't that put the championship game during finals for a lot of schools?
I think this is the answer you are looking for.
So...will Hurricane Matthew get a degree after it moves through Chapel Hill?
Ha. It will be Dr. Hurricane Matthew by the time it hits VA.
I have to wonder... if this game does get moved to Blacksburg, would the ACC compensate UNC by moving next year's game to Chapel Hill?
I really, really don't want to see this game moved to a half filled Lane with a neutered atmosphere where we're not allowed to have the festivities of being the home team if it means UNC gets 2 home games in a row over the next 2 years....
well if they can make the decision sooner rather than later, then maybe people will have time to make plans to attend. I hear a lot of folks from FL, SC, and NC are gonna be on the road this weekend anyway...
The case can also be made that moving the game to Blacksburg puts the logistical burden of hosting the game back on the Hokies, and a dicey situation like this may actually make playing at home a disadvantage.
Sometimes, if all you have to worry about is showing up, you're better off.
Local weather guy in Hampton Roads. I hope that is correct.
Jeff Lawson is easily my least favorite weatherman ever. Something about him makes me angry the very second I see his face or listen to him talk.
haha. Fair enough.
I don't believe I have ever cared about weathermen enough to have a favorite, least or otherwise.
I'd rather concern myself with pastries.
Jeff Lawson just made a huge jump in my weatherman power rankings
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I keep clicking but I'm still not finding out. /s
In the spirit of hurricane season, if Jim Cantore isn't #1 I'm calling shenanigans.
'EVERYTHING'S ON THE TABLE' FOR HURRICANE MATTHEW AFFECTING NOTRE DAME-NC STATE KICKOFF
By JJ STANKEVITZ October 04, 2016 3:25 PM
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SOUTH BEND, Ind. — Hurricane Matthew could affect this weekend's Notre Dame-North Carolina State game, with Irish coach Brian Kelly saying Tuesday "everything's on the table" with regard to adjusting the kickoff time in Raleigh.
As of now, Notre Dame, North Carolina State and the ACC haven't moved the kickoff time from noon E.T. Saturday. But Kelly said Notre Dame has given North Carolina State and the ACC a 24-hour window for playing the game from noon E.T. Saturday through noon E.T. Sunday.
"We feel like anything after noon on Sunday starts to encroach on our ability to prepare for Stanford," Kelly said.
Kelly said playing the game Friday night has not been discussed, but he and Irish officials will have a conference call Tuesday afternoon to discuss further possibilities. If everything is on the table, as Kelly said, that could (but doesn't necessarily) mean moving the game from Raleigh as well.
Weather Underground's five-day forecast projects Hurricane Matthew to make landfall in southeastern North Carolina at 8 a.m. Saturday as a Category 1 storm with winds between 74 and 95 mph. Raleigh is about 200 miles from the Atlantic Ocean but still could be affected by the storm, with Weather Underground predicting 1.82 inches of rain with sustained winds of 20-30 mph.
Good stuff. Can we get a link for the article?
Sauce
I'm jumping in here for OP because there are only 11 minutes left in my work day, and they can't possibly be filled with actual work
Here ya go.
http://www.csnchicago.com/notre-dame/everythings-table-hurricane-matthew...
Kind of funny that ND is the one wearing the pants in that conversation. I can see Swofford looking nervous with pen and pad handy to jot down demands. "Yes, sir, we can do that, sir. Thank you."
Just look at ND's schedule and the amount of actual away games that they play this season. It is a joke.
@ Texas - Game 1
@ NCSU - Game 6
@ USC - Game 12
They have 3-4 neutral site games to avoid actually playing in more than 3 opponent's stadiums.
..and yet they still will be battling for bowl eligibility.
Agreed! I'm just wondering: A 24 hour window or what?
Or we forfeit! We're 2-4 now, but we have extra time to get ready to lose to Stanford.
Insight from someone on the ground in Charleston
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Also sounds like the next time the ACC is going to talk about this is Thursday?...That seems way too late
I'm gonna guess it'll be a Sunday kickoff. UNC won't want to move it and going earlier won't help anything. Just sucks because the NFL is on at the same time so nobody will be watching.
Why have a game on Sunday when there could be massive power outages and emergency response crews will be needed elsewhere. It makes more sense to have the game earlier than later.
Yep... Sunday is probably completely out of the question if this gets moved. First responders will be mobilized elsewhere, and there won't be enough left to work our game, let alone the games at Duke and NCSU as well.
So it's either Thursday (which is when the ACC is scheduled to talk about this again) or move it to Blacksburg. Right? That's the only two viable options I can imagine
I think so. Anything after Thursday would have to be played in Blacksburg, IMO.
Or, and I think someone mentioned it here, you postpone this game until early December and push conference championship game a week.
Yeah, I mean you're talking about 5 ACC schools that are going to be directly impacted by this. There has to be a way to just delay these games to the end of the season, and push the championship game out a week. This is actually easier to do with Orlando not having an NFL team than it would have been in Charlotte.
You would need to get the NCAA and CFP to push back bowl selection and playoff selection a week as well, I doubt they will do that.
24 hours to plan for the biggest storm to threaten NC/VA in 5 yrs+ ???
#goacc
Games going to be in Blacksburg people!!!!! I don't see any other option, my guess is UNC and VT have been told. They're working on all the arrangements needed to make this happen and Thursday am it will be announced.
Trusting you because you have had inside info before.
That's actually backwards. They moved it to LSU last year. There's no way they cancel the game. I'd be willing to betake it's played in Blacksburg on Saturday at 330. So much so that I'm booking a hotel room. Will probably be the first & last time you can stay in Blacksburg for a conference game while booking the week of the game.
Thursday sounds way too late. If they were move it to Friday then you're leaving the teams to make last second changes which I'd think the coaches would hate or if you move to Blacksburg I'm sure NC wouldn't be happy
Well, over the course of the 2012, 2013 seasons, Duke had to play 2 away games at Lane, and the Hokies had to go to Miami twice in a row. This was done to accomodate Pittsburgh and Cuse coming aboard?
And didn't BC or someone have to play consecutive games in Blacksburg too?
I'm prepared either way.
I'm thinking we are going to get screwed on this deal. Guessing game will be cancelled and no make up. UNCheat gets out of losing to VT. They bet that they have a higher ranking at the end of the season and get to play Clemson for ACC champioship.
I just think there's too much money on this game to cancel it.
Either way they are going to be losing money on ticket sales. I imagine UNC would refund their tickets and then VT would sell General Admission tickets. I doubt we would get more than 30k on short notice traveling during a storm.
There are 25K undergrads in Blacksburg that would love an excuse to tailgate and have an extra home game. Lots of Hokie fans in Blacksburg. Even more in the surrounding area. I bet we could get upwards of 50K if they announce it sooner rather than later.
And locals ;-)
Only 40,000-45,000 attended the LSU-S.Carolina game relocated to Baton Rouge.
Here is the number for the ACC commissioner's office. Let's all call or fax and get the game moved to Blacksburg!
Contact Us
Tell us how we are doing.
The ACC and Raycom Sports are always looking to engage with fans of our member institutions. Please provide us any feedback and helpful ideas.
Atlantic Coast Conference
4512 Weybridge Lane
Greensboro, NC 27407
feedback@theacc.org
336-854-8787 phone
336-854-8797 fax
http://www.theacc.com/page/ContactUs
I just sent them an email to move the game on the feedback link shown.
Please don't do this.. they have enough to deal with right now.
It's not like 100k emails saying move the game to Blacksburg will be the tipping point.
Yeah, like dealing with all of the messed up arrangements and refunds needed to move ACC championship game to Orlando!
Don't lobby for something that benefits us during a category 4 hurricane.
is the field still up at Bristol?
SC State down
I JUST WANNA KNOW ALREADY!
is he saying asshole?!
Thought the same exact thing
I know (hoping anyway) it's sarcastica but he's saying "I gotsta know" from the famous Dirty Harry series scene.
They really don't want to move this game
We should have better understanding on what to expect tomorrow. I just feel like waiting until Thursday is not the best idea.
certainly doesn't sound like safety is their priority.
Sounds more like they're trying to soften the blow of losing a home game to their fanbase.
My hope is they've already made the call so at least the school's can get the ball rolling on logistics for playing in Blacksburg Saturday. If they're legitimately putting this off til the last minute then they are all idiots.
What fanbase? The basketball team isn't playing this week.
Can you blame them? We would lose our minds if we were in their situation and had to give up a home game when trying to compete for a division title, especially against a team that is in the top 25. They'll move the game if thats what it comes down to but they won't be happy about it and I certainly wouldn't be if I were them.
It is (was?) going to be a game where they were going to get great attendance, might be their premier recruiting weekend of the season, and again get home-field advantage. If the ACC is waiting till Thursday we clearly told them we could get it ready (no way it gets cancelled) in 2 days. So if I'm UNC I'd definitely wait until the forecast was a little more certain and I knew I was going to get crushed by the storm
Side note (might be influencing their opinion) that would be a hell of a three week stretch. On the road @#12 FSU @#25 VT @#10 Miami
A.) Our fanbase actually cares about football.
B.) Most of the attendance was due to our fanbase.
Am I the only one who had to look up who Bubba Cunningham was? I mean seriously, the most UNC thing ever, an Athletic Director named Bubba Cunningham, it just screams mismanagement.
So let's say they play this game during the hurricane. Does anyone have an idea of if UNC will offer refunds for tickets for those of us who don't think that it is a good idea to drive in a hurricane or am I going to be screwed out of that money?
Well depends. Did you buy the tickets through the UNC athletic department? If you did you might get face value. If not, fat chance. If you got them through StubHub or another reseller you're SOL if you didn't pay for their insurance on your ticket.
Better question, will Lane accept my tickets that bought for Chapel Hill should that occur and the game is played in Blacksburg.
I have experience as someone that lives on a barrier island. Sandy's eye officially touched down 5 blocks(the short side of the rectangle) from me. Also, I am a licensed pilot and spent multiple years in school studying weather as required.
http://images.intellicast.com/WxImages/CustomGraphic/HurTrack1.gif
The current probabilities show Chapel Hill at the far reaches of any wind at 40 mph (which is really not that bad), with the storm tracking further east. I suspect it will track further offshore and weaken immensely. Meaning the game should be played at the time and location scheduled.
Also, for everyone inclinded to do so, www.intellicast.com should be your only source of weather information. Their app for iphone/pad & andriod is called Storm.
General Rule of Thumb regarding weather.. if someone is talking about it on the news they receive their information from here but add their own sensationalism and are always wrong.
There we go.
I'm a fan of NOAA personally...seems to be right more often than any other weather service I've seen
Nicole get your shit together.
eshiben is the only weather report I need
Latest NHC guidance suggests that Hurricane Matthew is slowing down or isn't going to be going up the coast as fast.
From their latest update they have Matthew just off the coast of NC/SC at 8pm Saturday...
So then we should be ok ...hmmm
5am update. It will be really interesting to see if it changes throughout the day today.
Wooo! I vote for this one.
Looking a lot better this morning! It looks like the Jeff Lawson graphic that I posted yesterday afternoon was pretty close.
Jeff had already cracked my top 5, but if he's right about this one he'll be cemented as my #1 meteorologist
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If we give this more legs, it comes true, right?
Just remember the cone is so wide several days out for a reason. It could still make landfall in the Carolinas
It could... but the odds of that happening are actively shrinking. At this time yesterday the model had the storm track going right over Raleigh, and now it looks like it might maybe touch the coast. That's definitely good news
So, what we're looking at is breezy with sprinkles. I can do that.
so what your saying is that UNC won't get any on Saturday?
Only the sprinkles of Bud Foster's chainsaw slicing through their offensive line.
Considering what the stadium will look like with the VT takeover, I say his statement still holds
Go great on top of fully dipped!
Forecast has an even bigger East turn now. VA isn't in the "cone of uncertainty" and only a small section of NC is.
All - just a FYI, we don't need to have the updates for at least the NOAA model posted.... looks like the embedded images in here are automatically updating.
That's really gonna make this thread look weird in hindsight.
eh, fuck it
Yeah my comment about a line in the sky in central PA...PA is off the map
It's also getting freaky when the page loads, but the images are slower, so the page keeps jumping, and I keep seeing the same map, but suddenly different comments.