Wow!
The 10 member jury concluded that the Rolling Stone journalist was responsible for defamation, with actual malice, in the case brought by Nicole Eramo, a U-Va. administrator who oversaw sexual violence cases at the time of the article's publication. The jury also found the magazine and its publisher responsible for defaming Eramo.
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I have a lot of hatred towards RS for what they've done. There are women out there who have gone through horrific things and it's difficult for them to come forward. Because of RS and other "people who cry wolf", real offenders are more easily able to get away scot free and real victims feel powerless.
I realize TKP is not the forum to talk about this so I'll cessate the conversation right now but it's something I wanted to get off my chest.
With you that its not a topic really for TKP, but also with you in agreeing that sexual assault towards women, and creating an environment in which victims of assault (of any sex) can feel safe in coming forward is something that is very important.
This is not a topic for TKP.
Also, I echo the sentiment regarding "cry wolf".
Ignore please.
I was just responding directly to the post, which was about women in specific, and then added to it. Seems like an odd criticism...
Not to mention, he said this
after saying this
so I think he kinda covered it.
I want to drop the issue, please.
Locked and dropped.
Any chance someone can stick it to Jan Weiner is a good day.
Looks like they had more jury members than participants at their Spring Jocks, Jelly, and Jam Jubilee
I believe they call it a cotillion.
Ugh, I had to do cotillion as a kid....
Fun story: I never had to do cotillion while MoD's family made him do it and he missed Dale Earnhardt winning the Daytona 500.
I have nothing more to say than its a disgrace that the Rolling Stone did this, as it did nothing more than make it that much harder for any legitimate victim of rape on campus to ever be taken seriously going forward.
I just don't agree with your takeaway.
It is neither easier nor harder today to get a legitimate rape victim to be taken seriously than it was before the fraud that RS & "Jackie" perpetrated.
Perhaps you mean taken seriously by the public, because law enforcement will treat any allegations of rape just as seriously as any other time in recent history. If so, well, I feel for anyone who may think their reputation will suffer if they were to bring a legitimate rape charge against anyone -- but the burden of proof must not change based on who the victim is, or what the crime is.
What is interesting in this case is that the allegation was never brought to law enforcement. Indeed, the person perpetrating the fraud went to great lengths to avoid speaking with the police at all. I am amazed at the lengths other people go to avoid pointing a finger at her. I think the fact that her name is still not spoken by a media that usually can't wait to spill secrets suggests than legitimate rape victims will tend to have their identities protected at least as well.
When a thread like this rolls around.
LolUVA can defame themselves enough on their own.
Those lies were horrific to everyone and have no place in this country. They deserve what's coming to 'em
"It's 5:31pm"
I
rarelynever root for anything from the University of Virginia (see below), but I want to see Rolling Stone get absolutely crushed by the damages they have to pay out in this suit and by the one Phi Kappa Psi is bringing.Don' take this the wrong way, but what does this have to do with VT football?
Sports.
It is a follow-up to the thread that was posted here when this story first broke. Off-topic threads like this, regarding university policies nationwide, do get posted from time to time. This is because the site, while VT-centric, is not solely devoted to VT football, and actually not entirely to VT itself. Often, our community comments on and discusses pertinent current events that may be, even if tangentially, related to VT or the college experience in general.
While this is obviously all derived from a hot-button topic, the previous thread included significant meaningful, useful, and informative commentary from the TKP community. Some shared personal experiences. And yes, some comments got a little intense. But what I took away from the discussion was that TKPers care about legality of actions and the response of universities to serious situations, and that such issues can be discussed intelligently within this community.
That is not to say that every current event needs to be posted here. In fact, I've argued strongly against that in several cases. But in this instance, given the history of the discussion on this topic on TKP, I think it is appropriate.
I am watching carefully to make sure nothing gets too carried away.
Between this and the NJ Bridgegate verdict, today was a day for landmark decisions.
This one is going to get studied in both law and journalism classrooms for years to come.