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While many loath Paul Johnson's chop blocking, veer oriented, flexbone offense, I circle the date of the Georgia Tech game on my calendar every as the opponent I most fear. Johnson's troops may tread the line on the ethics of blocking, but their offensive line plays a pure form football, one that I was taught: the low man, not big man wins. Explode off the ball at the snap. Create seems in the defense and exploit them with quick hitting, hard running plays that emphasize will more than talent. It is beautiful football, and it's damn frustrating to see it well executed against our Hokies.

Even though Paul Johnson's system is terrific, perhaps no coach has had more success in stopping the flexbone offense than Bud Foster. Johnson has only defeated the Hokies one time in five tries since taking over the Yellow Jackets program, and despite posting impressive yardage totals, the Hokies have been able to limit big plays and force turnovers.

Foster has tweaked his approach against Georgia Tech over the years, but several things have been consistent.

  1. The Hokies will overcommit to stop the fullback ("A" back) dive on the triple option.
  2. On MOST triple option plays, the unblocked defender will take the pitch forcing the quarterback to keep the ball. Foster's approach assumes that, while the quarterback will get yardage, he will also take a pounding and start making poor reads as the game progresses. The quarterback tends to be less of a big play threat, as he is closer to the pursuit of the defense than the pitchman.
  3. The secondary usually plays a cover-2 with the corners as run support, or inverted cover-2 with both safeties coming forward in run support and each corner taking a deep half.

Inverted Cover-2 Against Veer:

Cover-2 Against Veer:

I have reviewed the basics of the triple option offense and the different ways Bud Foster has tried to stop it in previous articles. I strongly encourage you to review my piece from last season.

Enter Vad Lee

It's hard to believe after all the grief the Yellow Jackets have caused the Hokies, but in the last couple of matchups Paul Johnson has had one arm tied behind his back. Tevin Washington was almost inept as a passer, and his slight stature played directly into Foster's defensive approach of encouraging the quarterback to keep the ball and to be pounded until he starts making poor reads at the end of the game. In 2011, Foster's commitment to having the quarterback beat him, albeit with his legs, resulted in Washington carrying the ball 24 times for 115 positive yards (77 net). No other Georgia Tech ball carriers had more than 8 carries. As the game progressed, Washington began to make poor reads, seemingly in an effort to avoid contact. On the critical drive of the fourth quarter, Washington was stopped on the midline option on 3rd and 4th down deep in his own territory. On both plays, he had an opportunity to push the pile, but didn't have the legs or the will after being pounded the whole game.

Durham, North Carolina native Vad Lee is running point now. Lee is not as physically imposing as Josh Nesbitt, but he has great acceleration and is a big body that can take a pounding. Perhaps more impressively, he can be a dangerous down the field threat from play-action, so much so that Paul Johnson uses some pistol formation to go with his flexbone set. His ability allows Johnson to open up his playbook. While to the naked eye, it appears that the Wreck is running boring option after option, the Yellow Jackets run a wide variety of plays all based on veer principles.

A review of the Yellow Jackets demonstrates how challenging it is for a defense to stop this offense. On a series of two back-to-back scoring drives, the Yellow Jackets ran every basic form of running play in their offense, without running the play more than twice over the course of two long drives (with the exception of two plays from the pistol.) Let's take a look.

First, Lee gives to the fullback on a triple option.

Here Lee runs a counter option, which only involves a read on one unblocked man.

On short yardage, the Yellow Jackets come back with a quick toss. The Hokies have struggled to defend this in short yardage and goal line situations in the past.

Lastly, Lee runs the midline option. Johnson loves this play on the goal line or short yardage. The fullback dives at a wider aiming point. The quarterback fakes a give, and then follows the fullback like a lead blocker into the hole.

In the past, the Hokies have been able to load up on the run with nine men in the box because Georgia Tech's passing attack was so inept. It is hardly a sophisticated look, but most of their passing principles are very similar to Marshall's and East Carolina's. The difference is that the slot receivers are the wingbacks, and the Yellow Jackets look to take advantage of the safeties flying forward in run support and hit the big play deep to those wingbacks rather than attack the flat. Georgia Tech also has two big bodies at wide receiver, so the Calvin Johnson-ish jump ball scenario can loom large.

Georgia Tech's favorite passing play is a basic split end post, slot wheel route combination. The big split end runs a post pattern and either picks the interior defender, or heads to the post where there is likely not safety help. The wingback heads to the flat, then wheels up the field looking to catch the linebacker or safety moving east-west, rather than being able to turn and run.

The Yellow Jackets also use the basic quick screen and tunnel screen, and then run vertical routes off that action. Here, the Yellow Jackets come out in a twins right formation. The wingback and the split end go vertical, and the wingback is wide open for a touchdown and drops the ball.

If you rewatch the play, the receiver running in the flat on the screen action is wide open on the play. If the wingback had been covered, Lee could have turned to his safety valve for a nice chunk gain.

A New Wrinkle

The other new trick in Johnson's arsenal is running inverted veer from the pistol. Conceptually, it is a very similar play to that the Hokies used on the game winning touchdown versus Miami in 2011.

Let's watch the Yellow Jackets run this for big yardage against Duke.

On the inverted veer, the fullback aligns behind the quarterback, with a wingback to each side in the pistol. At the snap, the play side of the offensive line all blocks to their inside gap. If a defensive lineman isn't filling that gap, then the lineman will continue on the same path (as if on train tracks) and cut the first linebacker pursuing from the inside. The defensive end has been instructed to bump the tackle as he goes inside to squeeze down the dive, but in doing so he essentially takes himself out of the play. The play side wing back leads up and cuts the outside linebacker. The fullback sprints out ahead of the quarterback and cuts the first blue shirt to cross his face. The right guard pulls play side, and kicks out the end if he stays wide, or tries to get outside of him and turn up if he crashes.

The quarterback takes a belly step and creates a mesh point with the right wingback, who is running across his face. On most read options, the quarterback is the wide threat, but here, he is the dive and the wingback is the wide threat. If the end crashes, the quarterback gives to the wingback. If the end stays wide, the pulling guard traps him and the quarterback should have a huge hole (see Logan's Miami game winner). Here, the end goes inside, and the wingback gets the ball for a huge gain.

The Yellow Jackets don't run this that often, but from the Duke and Elon film I watched, this was their most consistent big play generator in the running game. Against Duke, Georgia Tech ran the inverted veer six times. On five, Lee handed it to the wingback. On the sixth, he pulled the ball and threw off play action. I didn't have an opportunity to watch the North Carolina game, but it appears that this functions as a power sweep for the Yellow Jackets (similar to the sweep used by Marshall), as much as it functions as an option.

The Yellow Jackets always prove to be one of the most challenging opponents for the Hokies. No game is more physical. No game requires more emphasis on fundamental tackling and pursuit. And, with the added wrinkle of an improved passing game, no team presents a more vexing scheme to stop than Georgia Tech. The Hokies have been on the winning side of this rivalry because their scheme has prevented big plays while forcing turnovers and then getting just enough offense to get the job done. This week, the Hokies have to "re-learn" how to defend the option with only four days of practice and a tired, beaten up defensive front, and while it seems like the young corners may not factor as much against this kind of foe, one mistake over the top in a game where each possession is so critical can put the Hokies behind the eight ball in the Coastal Division.

Comments

Ugh, I can't stand GT's offense. I think it'll play in our favor that both teams are coming into this game on a short week after tough games. But, since GT's offense causes our defense to read/react rather than simply attack, I think our defensive front's depth will be tested considerably in this game. Hopefully the younger guys are ready to step up.

Great review as always, French!

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I think major thing that makes Johnson's approach successful is how they coach the OL to anticipate the count and fire off the same time the ball is snapped, rather than wait for an auditory trigger. They are always off the ball before the defense can react and establish their optimum blocking positions faster.

Reality has a mighty pimp hand.

One thing is certain, you won't play line for Paul Johnson unless you are quick off the ball, willing to cut, and willing and quick enough to get to the second and third level to block. If the NCAA kept track of most OL blocks thrown 8+ yards from the line of scrimmage, GT would win in a heart beat.

As a DL, you have to get up field without getting downblocked, and if a guy gets on your hip you have to cross his face. This offense requires TINY bubbles to form in the defense in order to have success on the dive. If the dive is working, it will be a long night, but Hopkins, Collins, Gayle, Tyler, and especially Tyrell Wilson all have great track records playing against this scheme. Dadi, Woody, and Nigel Williams are the guys to worry about, having not played this scheme before.

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I was thinking the same thing. Our backup DTs worry me only because they haven't played against them. In one of your clips with us against GT, our line was Gayle, Marshall, D. Hopkins, and T. Wilson and that was 2 years ago.

Edit: It was JR Collins, not Marshall playing DT. My mistake.

Our back up dts will not be getting much work in this game if any. If the backups do get some action they will not be in at the same time barring injury.

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On the contrary, I think our backup DTs will be seeing a lot of time. Our D-line runs an 8 man rotation, so Nigel and Woody see a fair amount of playing time. And when you have players cutting your legs, you will get tired so I fully expect both to be in there. I do hope though that they rotate them individually as you mentioned though.

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I think the only way that happens is if we consistently create 3 and outs. Unfortunately, that's just not going to happen.

i wanna get tanked with coach wiles and just listen to him talk shit

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Related to Baltimore's comment... I feel like I see a false start on about 50% of GT's snaps. ACC refs are bad, but I know they aren't missing it that often. Is it possible that the ball is snapped (pretty much invisible to the TV audience if the QB is under center, as GT usually is on the option plays), and then the QB holds it and stays motionless for a beat before progressing with the play? I don't know why this would be advantageous, but it's the only thing I can think of, since it usually looks like the Guards and Tackles are already charging forward prior to the QB making any moves.

Have you noticed this French (or any other's knowledgeable in the ways of football)?

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When I watch for it with them, I'm watching the movement of the center and his arms compared to those around him. I've also noticed times when the CENTER begins to move before snapping the ball, but it's so close in real time, it seems it would be easy to miss on the field.

I'm always amazed that GT doesn't get more False Start penalties. There are many times I see them from up top, see a guard or tackle move before the ball is snapped, but just BARELY, and enough to make me wonder if I actually saw them go before the ball or not.

I remember when PJ just got there and implemented the system...false starts everywhere, but far more obvious.

Ha! Near simultaneous posts... Glad I wasn't the only one seeing it. Feel like I am taking crazy pills when I watch their OL jump over and over again.

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haha it especially drives me crazy when i'm at the game. plus it feels like they're running the same play over and over and just gashing us. such a frustrating game year after year.

"That kid you're talking to right there, I think he played his nuts off! And you can quote me on that shit!" -Bud Foster

French, I read your stuff - then I watch the game - and I am like this:

Fortune Favors the Bold

Oh my God, I LOVE that movie. Bud has to feel like that every. single. game.

A decade on TKP and it's been time well spent.

So many great lines in that movie

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Also, you heard it here first. The Hokies will run a bend back counter from the pistol and a true triple option with the same dive read play, but Mangus motioning and then serving as a pitchman. Even if it doesn't go for a big play, watch for the next Edmunds dive to have more space inside.

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I hate playing GT. I just keep worrying about our d-linemans' knees! Graves wasn't the same all season after the GT game (or at least until the bowl game), just because he got chopped every freaking play.

It was a catch

Good work French. GT definitely has added a lot of wrinkles to the offense this year, which will be a challenge for us on a short week.

This game is always such a huge test for the DEs as they have a lot of different responsibilities, based on the play.

First, they have to squeeze/jam/fit (Depending on terminology) the OT against the veer triple option (Unless the play side LB is blitzing in the B-gap) and then take the dive back. If they don't squeeze the OT but take the dive back, GT will have a decent gain outside with the QB keeping the ball. If they squeeze the OT but don't take the dive back, it is a 3-6 yard gain (Unless one of the DTs blows up the play) If they don't get a good squeeze and don't take the dive back, it is probably a TD. This technique is not as easy as it sounds because the GT OL are very quick off the ball and spend countless hours on releasing inside against a jamming DE, to allow them to get to the play side LB. It is almost as if the roles are reversed where the OTs are releasing (Sometimes using a rip move) to get past the DE, while the DEs are punching (down the line) like a pass protection set.

If the DEs are doing this successfully they face another set of challenges. Paul Johnson will immediately come back with a quick pitch or speed option, in which the DEs now have to get outside in a hurry to either take QB (Speed option) or try to string out the quick pitch. There is a fine balance that the DEs have to find. If they are squeezing the OT and crashing too quickly/aggressively, they can't get outside on the QP or SO. If they have too much weight on their outside foot, they won't get a proper squeeze on the OT and might not get to the dive back quickly enough against the veer. On top of that, they also have to recognize pass quickly and get up field to pressure the QB.

It is very hard to be read and be aggressive at the same time but that is exactly what is required against this offense. They have to see it first but once they see it, they have to get their responsibility in a hurry. Fortunately, we have three experienced DEs against this offense but it is still very hard to adjust to the speed of the offense. Compared to our scout team the GT offense will be much, much quicker getting off the ball up front, getting the QB/Center exchange and getting to the different option points of the offense. Everything we are doing in practice will need to be done twice as fast in the game. Also, a huge variable to all of this is the play of the DTs. If they are dominating inside and taking away the dive back, as they have done in the past, it makes life easier for everyone else on the defense.

This thread has me in an anxiety attack tailspin!

French, Shabutie, anyone else - how do you expect our freshmen DBs to perform tomorrow? What do you expect PJ to throw at them?

It really depends on if we are in the regular Cov-2 or the invert Cov-2. I would imagine that we would use the inverted more because it puts the safeties at a better angle against the arc release block (Wing back) and it allows our better cover guys to do more covering while our safeties are more active against the run. We might even mix in some turn-and-run man outside as well in certain situations. Like French said, they will try to hit the post (WR) and wheel (Wing back) combination which puts a lot of stress on the deep cover guys, regardless of which zone coverage we are in. If we are in regular cover 2 they might have the WR crack inside on the rover/FS/Whip and leave our corners unblocked and in an unfamiliar position against the QB and pitch back. The freshmen are going to have to be ready against either scenario because we will need to mix-up coverages at least a little bit throughout the game.

It seems that all we ever hear about is Georgia Tech's offense. What do we know about their D?

It's vastly improved from last year's squad..unfortunately. There is a reason every Hokie fan loved Al Groh. Now that he's been replaced with Ted Roof look for their D to do a pretty good job shutting down our O. Unless we finally piece together some scoring drives we're going to have a bad time. From what I've seen (and mind you, I'm nowhere near as knowledgeable/observant as Mason, Joe, or French) we've been able to move the ball decently well but we stall pretty badly when we get into the red zone. With our kicking game being pretty questionable and our lack of big play athletes this is the game that we really need to be able to score once we're inside the 20. Otherwise it'll be a loooooong night.

Onward and upward

#11 in total defense, but only on 184 plays. Yards/play= 4.49 (and keep in mind they DID play Elon) isn't great, but going through some stats, they rank in the top 25 in just about every category.

#beamerball anyone?

i fear their d is what's gonna be the difference in the game. ted roof>al groh

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I believe our D will do fine against their O. However the big question is how will our O perform against their D. I think they win that battle and our D gets worn out from being on the field for so long and GT gets points on the board. I hope the O pulls something out this game and D comes through with some key turnovers but barring that and some sp tm play I don't see us walking out of Atlanta with a win. Great review, though.

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Chop blocking: because who needs their knees to be healthy after a game, anyways?

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This may be a little off topic and could probably use a new thread, but have we audibled any this year? I'm sure there are a bunch of reasons for this. New system. Young players. But I'm interested in everyone's take.

We've talked about the O looking vanilla and how we expect Lefty to open up the playbook in acc play. But when the D shows us 9 in the box (ECU) and we have a run up the gut called, I wouldn't mind an audible out of it. I'm hoping for a more creative game plan from Scot and giving Logan the ability to get out of plays. Thoughts?

does anybody know if Scot Loeffler is actually Left Handed or not?

Onward and upward

French: do we have a 50% shot of winning this game?

I would say more like 48.3 %.

Leonard. Duh.

Repeating of course.

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If they play like they did against Alabama, and get over 50% 3rd down conversions, they win. 3rd down conversion rates will be critical for both teams.

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In that case, let me rephrase his question:

French: do we have a 50% shot of playing like we did against Alabama, and getting over 50% 3rd down conversions this game?

I dread this game every year. I get to watch GT run the same 5 plays on repeat with a few deep balls thrown in every now and then to keep us "honest"...

Damn I hate Paul Johnson's techniques. On that clip with Tevin Washington getting stuffed on 3rd and 4th downs, Tyrel Wilson gets chop blocked by #27 and #20 on 3rd down Tariq Edwards stuffs Washington. (0:02 - 0:05 on the video)

Paul Johnson would say that #27 wasn't trying to engage with Wilson but he runs into our guy the same time #20 is diving at his shins.

More chop blocking goodness:

- In the Duke game Counter-Option video, #70 the RG chop blocks Duke's far-side DT by diving into his legs while the C #50 is blocking him up high. It's not a severe chop but only because #70 hits the back of his own mans leg first.

- In the Quick Toss video, the GT LG and LT combine to chop block Duke's backside DT.

- In the Midline Option video, the GT B-back (#37) and playside A-back (#2_) combine to attempt a chop block the playside LB who fills the hole. B-back high, A-back low. In the crowd it's tough to see if the A-back actually contacts the LB's legs or if the threat of the chop is enough to get the LB tied up with the B-back's normal block.

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I want to agree with you and maybe someone else will clarify whether it was or not, but I feel that as quick as that play was and the fact Wilson never went to the ground, a foul is never going to be called there. Wilson engaged, #27 when he should have been focused on #20 the whole time it looks like. I think if #20 actually cut him down then maybe a flag is considered, but his bunny hop I think helped in the no call there.

Also, I think if Wilson felt he had been chopped, he would have been looking for a flag. But that just shows how fine the line is right there.

IMO it's the responsibility of the cut-blocking player to avoid cut blocking someone engaged with another blocker. In this case where #27 and #20 run to the alley one blocking high and one blocking low they hit Wilson simultaneously.

As for this bull**** about how Wilson "should have been focused on #20" that's the exact kind of argument that Paul Johnson uses to try and explain away the constant chop blocks his team commits. It translates to "If the defense would just get out of the way then they wouldn't get chop blocked."

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Great write-up French, one thing though on that fake-screen / drop video. The slot receiver is on the LOS and is covered up by the outside WR, and as such is ineligible for a dump off pass. He does stay behind the LOS but I don't think that allows him to catch any kind of forward pass... its just GT avoiding an ineligible man down field penalty.

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Defensively, Georgia Tech runs a similar system to Marshall. Ted Roof runs a 4-3 built around attack gaps and lots of designed blitzes. His defensive line is small and fast (their nose tackle is around 270.)

I did not get to see the UNC game (I did as much work on the film review in advance with work travel completely screwing me this week) other than bits and pieces. I think we can bully their front, but with Edmunds possibly not being effective because of his hip injury, I am a bit worried. This is a game where the power running game (including the veer and trap game from the spread) could really put Roof's defense at a disadvantage. He likes variable looks, and quick hitting straight ahead power football like what the Hokies used last week will force Roof out of all the blitzes that he likes to incorporate.

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If Edmunds isn't 100% and Loeffler wants to pound it up the middle, do we see a lot more Joel Caleb this game?

This is actually the first encouraging point that I've read. Why? Because I'm not worried about our defense...they'll do their job. But as Foster pointed outed, this is GT...they WILL gain yards and score points. Maybe we'll get a defensive score (or two please), but this game hinges on our offensive performance...they have to score more points than GT. If we can control their Dline, we have a shot.

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...they have to score more points than GT

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Damn you're good...I laughed.

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Watched a bit of the GT/UNC game, and that helped ease some of my nervousness. Offensively, GT is solid, and even when they run some of the stuff that we haven't seen, I think Bud's got this. Defensively, they leave some nice seam routes open (if we can hit them) and I think we can exploit some underneath crossing routes (again, if we can hit them). They're solid against the run, but we may be able to get something on the edge, especially with JCC or Mangus. UNC didn't seem to want to try to exploit them there, and it looked like they could have gotten to the edge on quite a few plays. So, I've edged back from "get the rolaids" to "sweaty palms".

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I've already got sweaty palms just reading TKP. I had better go pop some extra Crestor, aspirin and fish oil to keep my heart from exploding when game time gets here. Welcome to the joys of middle-age.

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Does anybody else think the X-and-O sketch of the inverted cover-2 look just a little like a child's rendition of a skull at first glance? Gets me every time.

Onward and upward

And you guys doubted me. Tisk tisk tisk.

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I did. But I didn't doubt the FULLLELLLLLLERERREERRRRSS or a Hopkins.

They just said on the post-show that Logan didn't practice all week due to his abdomen. His first snap he had taken since Marshall was tonight. That's pretty superb he came out playing like that after not practicing all week.