Bud Elliott, who is tapped in on Florida State, has a running log of Texas A&M's pursuit of Jimbo Fisher.
This is the 11/29, 3:45 p.m. update:
This is not an official announcement by any means, but I do think it is noteworthy. The few sources who yesterday thought Jimbo Fisher could still potentially come back now don't believe that he can or will. Additionally, they do not believe a search will be too drawn out. The top names I am hearing remain Willie Taggart and Justin Fuente.
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In Whit we trust.
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I needed a laugh.
Thanks.
I approve of this post
I appreciate the photo but I don't get it.
Its a gif - you need to watch it for about 7 seconds.
That's like 7 Rick Pitinos
That seems like a long time.
2 days 14 hours and numerous hints, I just now got it.
It was the laugh we needed, deserved, and...F-it, she is well qualified.
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Best of luck to Willie Taggart as the next head coach of Florida State University.
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I'm pulling hard for Willie to come through on this.
Thank God for the word "for"!
Or the word "through."
If pulling Willie is what it takes to keep Fuente, I'm sure someone on TKP will gladly step up.
I believe in you all. Godspeed.
#GoTKPGo
I'm not sure if this is a reference to the 6-12-18-24 challenge and a certain mogul, regardless #GoTKPGo.
no gifs please
Chillax guys. I got this.
You haven't sent these to KJ Henry yet?!?!?!?!?!?
I pull Willie every time Tim Settle destroys a double team.
Kinky
watch it, you're going to chafe
Why would Fuente want to leave VT for a situation that Jimbo Fisher finds intolerable?
I mean, FIsher took them to a national championship and three ACC Championships, and they want him out after one off-season where his QB was injured in his first game.
Because $5mil > $3.25mil
Sure, but "peace of mind" > "unreasonable expectations"
{cough, Georgia Tech game, cough}
The reactions at VT are NOTHING compared to the expectations/flame-outs at FSU.
^^^^ I'm with Vtkey. Let's be honest here. Beating GT is not an unreasonable expectation and questioning questionable play calling is completely reasonable.
This is so meta.
What does that even mean?
I can see taking the big pay day at the end of your career but Fuente is just entering his prime. He can make $3-4million and growing for 20+ years at VT by winning 8-10 games and competing for the ACC each year. He has job security, booster support, administration support, fan support, and lives in an amazing town to raise a family.
How many coaches that make the jump to a prestigious school even last through their first contract? The SEC is a graveyard of "the next hot coach". Look at Texas, USC, Michigan. I'd argue VT is the place where Fuente stands to make the most money in the long game.
Absolutely. As a contractor I'll take a lower bill rate for a longer period of performance. The same is true for a coach. $3.XM adds up after a while!
Fan support yes, but any team's fanbase gets pretty harsh when they lose, we are no exception to that
Short term money in an environment where you fall out 3 years after a natty is not >> than long term money at a place where you can compete just as well and your family is happy. And where you are very wealthy either way.
Why? Because he thinks he's a better coach and communicator than Jimbo Fisher.
And he likes money and more money is always better than less money.
C'mon, Willie Taggert.
FSU doesnt want him gone.
Then now would be a good time to reel him back in.
Since this is a rumors thread, here's what's bouncing around out there:
Tallahassee Democrat Jimbo FIsher
Apparently Fisher is unbearable to work with. That's the rumor I've heard
Good, then we don't need to worry about Foster going to aTm to work with him.
His assistants seem to love him. It's boosters and administrators that find him unbearable. He reportedly has a Beamer-esque loyalty to his assistants which has caused much consternation. But I think we can all agree by now that Bud ain't going anywhere unless a competitive P5 team offers him the big whistle. If he didn't jump ship when Beamer retired, he's not going to.
Heard a funny story recently about when he interviewed for the Clemson job before they promoted Dabo. In that, apparently he's just not a good interviewee. At one point in the interview, the story I heard was that he basically sat up and "look, I'm a good candidate, I know I'm the best you have, and if you don't go with me, I'm going to enjoy kicking your asses on the field for the next few years"
And that's why he didn't get the Clemson job. They just didn't think that attitude would play well with kissing boosters asses.
That can't really be true, can it? I know he has a reputation for being a bit rough around the edges, but I can't believe that anyone would really try that approach in an interview for a job they actually wanted. It's hilarious if true, though. Thanks for sharing.
I've never met Bud, but I do know of multiple fans who he's toured through Merryman. Everyone says he's incredibly charismatic. I find it hard to believe that he panicked that badly.
I know I panicked when I met him. Maybe that's the issue, his interviewers are so intimidated.
He intimidated the shit out of me in the D2 line by just standing there. Could barely get a word out and I'm 6'7 and talk ALOT.
I had to tell Sam Rogers that we were out of specialty pasta on multiple occasions when I worked at D2. How I escaped with my life remains a mystery to me.
the Clemson interview story was about Jimbo Fisher, not Bud Foster
I saw it on tigernet about Bud
oops, my bad
Most of the tension between Fisher and the administration (at least publically) stems from the football facilities not being up to the standard that Fisher wants. This seemed to be a huge stink with him:
Fisher's relationship with Florida State's administration has deteriorated over the past several months because of his growing frustration over what he considers to be inadequate facilities, saying they have fallen behind and put the Seminoles on an uneven playing field with Clemson and SEC schools. The school agreed to explore the possibility of a new $60 million football facility, but Fisher has been frustrated that more hasn't been done to build it.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21617765/jimbo-fisher-ur...
And for the land of jorts to boot. Wouldn't want to be in Florida when the zombie apocalypse hits either.
Have you been to Florida? With all the retirees it might already has a zombie apocalypse.
Money, resources, talent pool and reputation. All of this is bigger at FSU than VT - he can make more money and have access to a better pool of talent in the state of FL without having to compete in the SEC. FSU, based upon reputation gets the benefit of the doubt on rankings, TV worthiness, etc. and has a much easier path to the CFP (compared to the SEC). This is a big risk of a blueblood swooping in. Hopefully Fuente will pass given he's yet to see "his players" transform VT but after 5 years at Tech, I would expect this is the type of situation he would show interest.
I think fans overestimate how heavily coaches weigh the stresses of high profile job. Coaches who want to win a national title either go somewhere where the expectations are already sky high, or they build a program where expectations eventually become sky high (see Dabo, Clemson). Coaches who are actively working towards national titles don't dream of a low stress work environment.
I think coaches are like businesses. Businesses weigh all aspects. TN stress with TN potential might not be worth TN pay. VT stress with VT potential could be worth VT pay. This is not a single aspect kind of decision nor is it a single aspect trumps another (more pay beats more stress). The other things HC's weight is the effect of that stress on their staffs and players. I don't think anyone overestimates the stress factor. I mean, no one is saying Fuente is going to take a no stress, low expectation job, but look at Urban Meyer are FL. He won a Natty and was out over health reasons and I have no reason to doubt that's true.
Agreed, but I think winning trumps all else. And FSU is a pretty easy school to win at.
Also:
Urban lost control of the program, the health problems were a farce.
Agree, especially compared to Tech. Basically the same schedule with better overall talent (and talent pool) + exponentially more resources at your disposal.
This is not going to the SEC - easy glide path to a playoff spot and probably more favorable scheduling / rationalizing early season losses at FSU vs. Tech (see Auburn, Ohio State).
Schedule would be harder most years. Miami is their crossover, Florida every year and Clemson every year. Two out of the three of those will be good every year, imho.
I highly recommend everyone read David Teel's article about Whit and Fuente, which HokieFireman posted in its own thread here. Deep breaths everyone. I trust Whit.
For the love of god, how hard is it to spell his name right?
Ahhhh fucking auto correct. My apologies, thanks for the catch.
No worries....WGAS?
Get that Hokieclub money rolling.
You wanna keep coaches then you better pay em
I said this in the other coaching thread; I don't think Fu leaves for anywhere other than an Oklahoma school. I don't think he's the coach that runs for the big pay day, I think a opportunity to succeed is a big deal to him; and like Vtkey said, why would he go to a school that is as ungrateful as FSU is right now after just one down year. He made it a point of emphasis to make the remark that "it's a short trip from the penthouse to the outhouse," so he sees ungrateful fan bases, and I truly think that factors into where he wants to be. I believe he sees the fringe VT fans that are ungrateful for his work thus far after the tough losses the last two seasons, and I think he sees the larger core base of the VT fan that is ecstatic with what he's done thus far.
Couple that with leadership like Whit, and a seamless path to the CFP through a more manageable Coastal Division. I just am not worried about his departure. That could be baseless overconfidence, but I just don't see him leaving until the best situation for the fan base he'll inherit, the leadership he'll be under, and the best situation for his family I believe all play a huge role in his eventual move to greener pastures. He's an anomaly in the P5 coaching ranks, I truly believe both him and Buzz are similar in that way, Buzz if just in an odd way (but that's another topic altogether)
Agree with you....except the leaving to Oklahoma part.
One it's way to early in something he's trying to build here at VT to just pull up and leave.
Two, I agree and don't think he's the type of guy that just looks for the better pay day.
Three, most fans that were commenting on that FSU site didn't believe Fuente would leave due to how good he has it. Great supporting realistic fan base, supporting athletic dept., you get to live somewhere the has been ranked best place to raise your kids and best place to retire.
Four, I just don't think Fuente will leave until he feels that he has accomplished all he can at VT and can take them no farther. So hopefully like after 10 national championship runs.
I'm not worried about Fuente leaving anytime soon.
If he turned down as many offers as was rumored during/after his hire then this is absolutely true.
If you read the article linked above, and the others linked within it, it becomes clear that Jimbo is not being pushed out because this year's anomalous performance. He apparently does not play well with the boosters, publicly demanding bigger and better facilities, and they're getting tired of his annual flirtations with other jobs. It's his personality and attitude that are making him unwelcome, not the on-the-field issues. Reading through the stories on Jimbo's likely departure, I did find it interesting that there have been grumblings about his excessive loyalty to underperforming assistants. He apparently has not dismissed a single underling in his tenure there. The only assistants to leave FSU have been the ones poached by other programs, leaving only the lackluster ones behind. I always thought Beamer was pretty unique in that regard.
I agree Fuente seems to have different motivating factors but you don't get to be a P5 head coach at the age of 40 without taking risks / opportunities as they come.
... and you don't stay one without calculating risk.
Risk is relatively low, in my opinion.
- Essentially the same schedule as VT and path to get to ACC Championship / CFP spot
- Immediate improvement of talent / depth with a much better recruiting advantage
- Significantly more resources at his disposal
- High expectations but relatively stable hiring environment - FSU has had 2 coaches for 41 years (more stable than VT) and they are not forcing out this one. And FSU has had a lot of shady events surrounding the football team over 40 years and the coach lived through it. While handled better, not sure CFB had much better treatment than Bowden on the twilight of their careers (either from the fans or the admin).
The risk is reputational of jumping ship too soon - aka, Lane Kiffin. But if Kiffin had won at USC and was still there, I suspect his antics at UT all would have been forgotten outside of Knoxville.
Comparing the relative stability of two coaching jobs when one school has had two head coaches and the other has had three head coaches in my lifetime (I caught Bill Dooley's Peach Bowl win as a 10 month old) is a little disingenuous.
Fuente will leave, but it may be more about time than geography. I expect he will see thru the first wave, see if we bring in enough money, see if we can get past Clemson and Miami. I'm guessing he will be here another 3 - 4 years, then lsu, fsu, or OU May be open and he may be ready to go. But maybe we break thru by then.
But he's not leaving now.
If the Noles poach Fuente, they better know they'll never be invited to my birthday ever again! I'm serious!
When did my four year old get an account? I can't tell you how many times I've been disinvited to her birthday.
I... I'm not going to be able to deal with this every year around this time.
Edit: Yea I get it's a good thing that our coach is a hot commodity. It's still going to be tough to stress over losing him every year.
If you have a successful coach, you'll have to.
*Disclaimer: I realize CFB was a very unique situation (it was just a joke).
**It's also worth noting that it's a lot harder to find a picture of Frank frowning than you might think.
CFB did flirt with UNC. Just saying.
And UGA I think.
He bought a suit for the UNC dance, but decided to Netflix and Chill with the Hokies.
Does this count?
tell me about it. It's like when I tried a certain google search recently:
It's certainly preferable to having a coach nobody else wants.
which part?
Teams saying they are interested in your coach.....or fans thinking your coach is going to jump ship to any other program that is at the same level or better that opens up??
I for one am ok with teams saying they are interested....that says we have a good coach.
However, fans who think every job in the SEC or something like that is better and he'll want to bolt as soon as he can drive me nuts. And honestly I think are unrealistic.
I would lose a lot of respect for Fuente if he left us for a school in our own conference that we actively compete with. He doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who would do that.
I'm sure he's on FSUs list, but I would question whether FSU is on his.
I tend to agree.
Sure, it's more money and more resources, but also higher expectations at a program that's already reached the pinnacle.
Seems like VT offers an opportunity to take a program to the top that hasn't been there already. My current impression is that this intrigues both Fuente and Williams.
Plus... FSU is our next regular season opponent... We open with them next year.
It would be a major "f you" to whit if we open in Tally next year with Fuente on the FSU sideline. I can't see that happening
I guarantee a "Hatin' On" thread of 2,000+ comments come end of August if that were the case.
Everyone just keep your composure!
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Maybe the fan base shouldn't be so harsh on the man when we lose to Miami and GT in what was supposed to be and is a rebuilding year.
Was the reaction by some Hokies over the top? Yes
Would it be any different at FSU? Nope and it might actually be worse
Little disappointed Fireman hasn't replied to this yet.
Rich Rod
My RR alert doesn't go off unless the forbidden name is spoken along with some words about coming to Tech/Lane/Blacksburg/Coach here etc.
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Rich Rod will be coming to Blacksburg as Coach of the Arizona football team where they will play Tech in Lane
I used all 4, can I has reaction GIF now?
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Good I'd like to see that trash coach beat by a team he will never experience the joy of coaching.
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Ya gotta be quicker than that...In all seriousness I know you do it all the time, not sure if it is exclusively your thing and if I stepped on any toes then my apologies. Side note: took me forever to find that I thought it was a cowbell not a hairbrush.
No your good just having fun. Kids bath time keeping me off the site.
So if CJF leaves, does that mean HCBF?
See that's why I'm not really worried. If Fuente leaves, we already have a head coach.
Oh god, this rabbit hole is deep. If Whit wasn't prepared to do it before what makes you think he would do it now?
Not to mention that Head Coaches sometimes tend to take assistants with them. Now I am not saying that Bud would follow, but I also don't want to think about that sort of thing.
Because he would be the best option this time. And he has also shown consistent performance post-Beamer.
I am more worried about a high-profile or fan base who thinks their program is high-profile program swooping in with a truckload of cash to take Bud.
I fear if Bud leaves at this point (after Fuente) we'll be like Clemson longing for the Danny Ford years for decades to come. 😞
#BringLaneToLane
Would potentially be helpful on offense
I guess Tennessee would then demand a series.
Erik Ainge wouldn't
I look at this way, and assume one of these statements are true:
1) Lane learned from his mistakes at USC/time spent under Saban and knows how to manage players;
2) Lane has learned nothing and will be a train wreck again once he's back under a decently-sized spotlight.
Either way it will be entertaining as hell.
One upside of #BringLaneToLane would be that we would be champions of the twitterverse.
But the damn truth is Bud deserves it and would surpass everyones expectations.
Taggart got an extension offer at Oregon, not sure if he accepted.
I thought Fuente also got an increase.
If he goes, I'm all in for Bud Foster
Oh the things he would do to that offense in the opener 😩
If Bud were the head coach, I'd think we'd need to rely on our new defensive coordinator, Comment Score. Does FSU have a running quarterback?
Note: Mullen is taking Grantham - a VT alum - to Florida to be his DC. You know what that means?
Randy Shannon would be available...
Getting shut out at home in prime time on Labor Day probably wouldn't be the best way to start your new gig.
Looks like Fuente and Cornelsen visited QP in Chicago today. I wonder if a part of their conversation today included the national coaching carousel. My assumption is that it was discussed, and that both coaches will remain with VT.
But what do I know?!
and to follow-up, QP also just retweeted a comment made on his original tweet:
Or maybe QPII is feeling great about his future in Tallahassee...
I thought about that too, but I wanted to remain positive.
He seems really keen on VT's College of Engineering. Some quick Google-Fu says FSU's College of Engineering is 102nd in the nation.
Wasn't our engineering program a big selling point for him? If so, I don't think he's interested in FSU.
You see I see this every time QP gets brought up but it just gives me Da'Shawn Hand PTSD.
Perhaps he wants to join the circus.
Keep it up and you will get Zero sugar cubes
Whoa nelly alright alright let's not say things we can't take back
He's looking forward to playing for Rich Rod.
I saw this article that covered why Fisher would leave. It covers facilities that he wants. I LOL when I read that he needs them for recruiting.
http://acc.sportswar.com/article/2017/11/28/jimbo-fisher-heading-to-texa...
And, see, I had been led to believe that FSU was one of those programs that could recruit himself. I guess things are tough down in León County.
Fuente ain't leaving the coach that had the #1 defense in the country.
Fuente ain't leaving
the coach that had the #1 defense in the country.FIFY
I hope Whit has spoken with Fuente about his intentions, and is sleeping soundly. If he hasn't had that conversation, and is hearing these rumors same as us...he must be having some sleepless nights.
Someone go watch Whit while he sleeps
I'm on it
Does anyone actually think Fuente is seriously leaving???
I don't k ow how much more I can read of people panicking about Fuente leaving for every open job in the country.
The people panicking over Nebraska and to some extent Tennessee as well was a little much.
FSU is a little different, very much worth the worry of him leaving should it open up.
You think he's really the type of guy that jumps ship in year two of a rebuild to a because a better job came along???
happened after year 3 at Memphis
He was at Memphis for four years. And it's not really fair to compare any coach to their patterns at a G5 school. He had been there long enough where the team was mostly recruited by him, and he couldn't really go any further at that level anyway. The entire goal of taking that job was to be the next step towards a P5 coaching job.
You do realize that we could in fact just be a second stepping stone? The entire goal of taking this job was to be the next step towards a Blue Blood coaching job.
Says who?
I have literally not heard one person ever make that claim. In fact, all I've heard about Fuente and VT is how much he likes it here and how he's not planning on going anywhere.
While I agree with the belief that we have a coach who views VT as more of a destination than a stepping-stone, I can't say that your argument is a convincing one. Every coach in the history of forever has publicly declared his love for his current program and that he has no plans of going anywhere. That's just how the game is played.
I'm not saying he IS leaving, just that he reasonably could. The chances of him essentially being another Beamer and steering the program that isn't his Alma Mater for 20 years isn't likely. At some point we will either fire him (he would probably have to be involved in a scandal or turn us into UVA for us to pull that trigger) or at some point he will leave for another team.
At some point yes.....in year 2, no.
Maybe true but I have heard most everyone acknowledge that we should not assume Fuente (or anyone else) will be at Tech for 20+ years like coaches in the past.
I stand corrected, just playing a bit of devils advocate here. Based on everything he and Whit have said I really don't imagine him leaving soon. Though I do wonder how much he views this job as a stepping stone to his long term aspirations.
VT is not a school that has to be stepping stone and as such will likely try to find coaches that do not consider it a stepping stone. Beamer took VT from stepping stone to potential Blue Blood. In finding this replacement you are looking for someone that believes VT can be a Blue Blood and also believes he's the guy to do it. It's one thing to leave a good P5 school and go to an established Blue Blood. It's a whole other thing to take a school there.
I'm sorry but this has no foundation in reality. We are not a "potential blue blood". Our givings to our athletic program are low and we are lucky to get a handful of blue chip recruits that aren't legacies to our program. We are a good team, but we are not college football royalty.
Our fundraising is a hell of a lot better now than it was last year, per yesterday's article. If that keeps up, and we keep improving, the excuses will continue to wither away as the money starts to come in.
I disagree with your assessment. I think once we get our act together, we don't have any reason not to be a blue blood. We are putting out a lot of high value alumni right now, and as long as the Drive for 25 keeps going, we're headed in the right direction. I think our ceiling is legitimately much higher than some are willing to admit, because we're just too comfortable on keeping the status quo.
Blue blood is like old money. Its not something you just achieve. The prestige comes from a heritage of winning. Florida State and Miami aren't really even considered blue bloods. I also think we have a high ceiling, but recent success is different than being one of the fundamental institutions of the sport. My hopes for us are to attain Clemson like success.
Is our ceiling as high as the roof?
Year 4. And I remember reading about him at the end of year 3, he openly stated he would be looking at new opportunities after Memphis. He's said nothing of the sort at VT
But that was going from Memphis to VT......nowhere near the same here. He took Memphis as far as they are going to get. Once he achieves that here or believes he has achieved that he may leave.
Do you think he has brought VT as far as he believes he can?? In two years??? Cmon man....
VT has a legit chance to make a run at the national championship. No G5 team is ever going to get there w/o an expanded playoff and some serious luck.
VT has the exact chance that FSU does. They currently recruit at a higher level but that doesn't mean that Fuente can't get us there.
It's not like we are WF or a P5 program like that. Unreal....
haha dude you're tough to deal with. I believe he will stay, but your assumption that he HAS to stay until he has maxxed our potential is absurd. He seems like a loyal guy who may, but doesn't just about every coach try to build that belief? Hell maybe he wants to be here for life, but i don't know nor do you. No I don't believe he thinks he's taken us as far as he can, you may even notice I never said that. You're correct we have a chance at a future natty. VT does not have the exact chance FSU has, I'm sure you'll have a factually based rebuttal for this. Can we get there? Sure it is possible. Never said we were WF or a P5, but pretty much any unbiased person views FSU as a better program than VT right now.
I agree that it's a better job and if we were open the same time that FSU was it'd be hard to pull a top coach away from the FSU job.
My issue comes with people saying he's likely to leave this year.
Do I think he'll stay here forever? No. He will leave at some point. But not in year 2. Who knows when he thinks he will have peaked at VT.
He doesn't HAVE to stay, I just think it's unlikely that he'll leave in year two which everyone is talking about happening. As I've said in other posts, if it were year 6+ then sure, especially if we had a playoff run in there. I just think him leaving NOW is unrealistic. That's really my main point.
Quite frankly, I think you're naive to think he wouldn't.
I'm not saying I definitely think he's gone or that he'll make that decision lightly, but FSU isn't Nebraska. It's not some slight upgrade or lateral move, it's pretty damn close to the top of the food chain and there's no telling when or if VT will ever be that kind of opportunity.
FSU is our next scheduled game.
If this was someone like Ohio State or Michigan, who was in another conference with a good AD situation, I'd be a little worried. But this is FSU, a team in our own conference who we literally play in our next game (excluding bowl). Going there would be a MAJOR 'fuck you' to everything associated with VT football, especially given how we really just don't like the Noles to begin with. If he did that, he would immediately become Public Enemy #1 in Blacksburg, and at the top of everyone's shit list at Tech. Fuente doesn't strike me as the kind of guy to pull a Lane Kiffin like that.
There's no doubt about that. But when it comes down to it, the only real reasons for him to stay here would be "being the nice guy" and maybe if his family would rather be here than Florida. I would love if he chooses to value those things because then you'd know you have a great coach, but I'm not going to bank on him valuing them over every other aspect of his career either.
You're acting like coaching at VT is bad for your career.
And I mean seriously, ya'll are acting like the crazy chick who is already melting down about how you're eventually going to end up cheating on her because you happened to double take on the waitress on your first date.
Chill
this....so much this....
Fuente has a great situation he's in right now. I believe Fuente believes he can get us to that next level. We are really only right behind. As stated above Beamer brought us out of a nobody program to a legit contender. Fuente believes he can continue that and win us national championships. Otherwise why come here? If he was in year 6 or 7 and believes he has peaked at VT and brought the program as far as he could, then sure.
But he's in YEAR 2!!!!!!!! Give the man some credit. It's not like he's being asked about other job offerings and ignoring the question like Jimbo. Holy crap.
VT Fans: Justin, you're amazing
Fuente: I think you're amazing
VT Fans: Don't ever leave me
Fuente: Ever
VT FANS:
Ah yes, but how did that relationship turn out at the end of the movie?
they got married
So...... we're in it for the long haul with Fuente?
Living in the Tallahassee area isn't like most of FL. He couldn't live on the beach and meet the work expectations of a P5 football HC (drive is too long). The closest beach community is St. George Island - which is really small. Carabelle or Appalachicola are close as well but their populations are each about 2000 people. Those are all over an hour drive from FSU. The nicest FL beach community that most think about when we say "live in FL" is Mexico Beach and Panama City Beach which are much further from FSU. I doubt he and his family would like the heat and bugs livivng in the immediate Tallahassee area...
Also, the Big Bend area of FL is very low elevation and floods often with Gulf hurricanes.
Now the fishing in that area... Outstanding! I loved visiting there, but wouldn't want to live there full time.
FWIW I recall Fuente saying earlier in the year on TTL that he hated the beach. They vacation every year at SML, and you could tell he really loved it.
You can't take this stuff so personally man. It wouldn't be a "fuck you" whatsoever. He's gonna do what's best for himself and his family. If he leaves for another conference team it's because he felt it was an opportunity he couldn't turn down. We'll curse his name to hell and back for all eternity, but it'd just be business.
Now if he left for loluva or wva, that'd be a fuck you. Don't see that happening though.
Are you going to argue time or job?
If you are arguing timing, I agree. It's not the right time for him to leave. He's got Bud, he's building a program, all that good press about transitioning from Beamer goes out the window. I. Do. Not. Think. He's. Leaving. Now.
But if you are arguing that FSU isn't a better job or that he wouldn't want the expectations, then I disagree. These guys don't consider losing, they see a passionate fanbase as a good thing. Expectations are a good thing. More money is a good thing. And FSU is a better job than VT in every meaningful way. You won't find anyone nationally that would argue that point.
I think everyone is missing one of the points of taking the VT job that very much speaks to a coaches "ego" if you will. You being the guy that takes that school to the next level. Not stepping into a place that's already been there but being THE GUY. That's what's on the table for Fuente. That's a huge reason to take the job and to also stay in the job for a while.
Oh shit, they spelled Fuentos name right this time. Must be serious.
FSU just lost 3 commits in a few hours nobody on our lists but whoooooo wee this could be fun
i dont think Fuente will leave. I think he just has a good situation at VT right now.
There are rumors that Jimbo might force this issue prior to the game Saturday and he not coach it. Would the FSU players show up ready to win or would they be so down they lose a makeup game and not make a bowl?
FSU losing the makeup game that they only scheduled to save their bowl streak in the first place would be the ultimate culmination of the regular season.
As it stands, there are 40 bowl games this year. Which means 80 teams. As of right now, 79 teams are eligible.
There are 3 teams that must win to become eligible this weekend. F$U, Louisiana, New Mexico St. If they all lose, my guess is that F$U still gets the call...as they have already started angling to play in St Pete.
But there's more at play here than just who the bowls want. If there aren't enough eligible teams, then the 5-win team with the highest APR (Academic Progress Rate) gets to go. I somehow doubt that'll be FSU.
There's already more bowl eligible teams than slots this year.
There will be some 6-6 teams staying home.
Nope. 79 bowl-eligible teams for 80 spots by my count. I suspect you're counting 6-6 Ole Miss, but they self-imposed a bowl ban in anticipation of NCAA sanctions this year.
I haven't even paid attention to Ole Miss since they bowl banned themselves. But all of the columnists I've been reading the last week or so have been talking about how there's more bowl eligible teams that slots. And I've counted two different lists of bowls today, and both of them only have 39 bowls listed on them.
And then there's this list.
Nope, I'm the one who's confused. The lists you checked apparently excluded the Celebration Bowl, while mine included it. Despite calling itself a bowl game, that one pits the non-FBS MEAC and SWAC against each other.
But that tweet mentions that there COULD BE 82 eligible teams. 3 of them still need to win one more game, so we'll have between 1 and 4 eligible teams left out.
Since they aren't an FBS team, there are only 78 slots that we are concerned about... MEAC and SWAC aren't contributing to FBS school numbers so therefore the 2 slots created by the celebration bowl aren't relevant for the FBS bowl numbers.
There's a reason why lists are excluding a bowl for non-FBS schools. Still could be 82 for 78 spots.
They're pretty low on the APR list. Looks like Air Force is the highest 5-7 team in APR.
2 teams play in 2 bowls since so wouldn't it be 78 teams? Cause of the championship?
Already accounted for that...
There's still only 39 bowls.
There's only 39 -- the 40th is the Championship game. That's 78 slots for 79 teams, with as many as 82 capable of becoming eligible.
Even if there weren't enough teams, FSU is toward the bottom of the list in APR and 5-6/5-7 slots have to be filled in order of APR. That's the entire reason FSU rescheduled the ULM game in the first place.
FSU should just promote Charles Kelly to HC, their faithful love the guy.
This is sarcasm right
The ACC loses a valuable member of the All-Name team.
Willie Taggart is a pretty solid name though
I had a boss at one time named Dick Always.
You worked for Matt Lauer?
Or Pat Narduzzi?
Fuck Pat Narduzzi
It's worth mentioning that Fuente knows he has Bud Foster at VT. Bud is one of the best defensive coordinators in the country. He relied on him a ton this year to go 9-3. Why give that up? You're in a great town. Great fan base. Great AD. Path to the National Championship game. Money isn't everything.
Taggart. As long as he can get past the banana in the tailpipe.
Most championship level coaches have a drive and an ego. They want to win at the highest level, on the biggest stage. FSU is a bigger stage than VT, and it's easier to win there. Doesn't mean he definitely goes, but he definitely considers it.
Look at how quickly FSU talent becomes irrelevant. There is no reason to jump to FSU from VT. Since VT joined the ACC, FSU and VT have the same number of ACC Championships and VT has an easier path to the ACC Championship game in any given year. You cannot use VT's decline from 2012 through 2015 as an indicator of how "easy it is to win". With Bud Foster's defense and a mediocre offense any given coach has it pretty good.
FSU also has more national championships, more CFP appearances, and probably more BCS/NY6 bowl wins in that time.
Top tier professionals in any industry don't care about how 'easy' a job is, they care about ability to succeed, and welcome the challenges. Don't get me wrong - VT is a great job, and there's a lot going for us. Relationship with staff, athletic director, town, etc are not to be ignored. There also the issue of FSU not being willing to pay for top level coordinators.
I recognize everything VT has going, I just think it's ignorant to say "Why would Coach Fuente pick FSU over VT???" as if staying at VT is a no-brainer. Simply put - FSU is a Blue Blood, and VT is not. When a blue blood (or if you prefer the term 'king') comes calling, you at least listen.
At the moment.
Let's not forget that just 10 years ago, one could make the argument that VT was just as big of a stage as FSU. We have the potential to get back to that stage and Fuente could be the one to take us there. Leading us on that journey could satiate the drive and ego of most coaches.
I'm as big a VT fan there is, but let's be real. VT has never been at FSU's level. 10 years ago we were in a good run of being a top 15 program, but don't forget even before that FSU still had a Natty, had won 11 of 12 conference championships, and went something like 15 straight years being ranked in the top 5 at some point during the season.
Even at our best, I don't think you could make the argument that VT was ever on the level of FSU.
FSU was a nobody for the majority of their history. They benefited from a decades long run of success from their best ever close. You could argue pretty convincingly we're just 10-15 years behind them.
Our first eight years in the ACC, we were easily on their level. Maybe you just don't remember how good we were then.
Just for comparision...
you can move the slide over to the 1999 season tom compare from there forward. (Fwiw, they removed the vacated victories in 2006 and 2007)
http://www.winsipedia.com/virginia-tech/vs/florida-state
holy crap i didn't know you could slide that thing! you just changed my life
Leg for Cheers gif. I wonder how many times they had to practice that before they got it right.
Eh... I'd be careful making that comparison. With Clemson, FSU, and Miami down the ACC was butter-cream cupcakes when VT came in. And whenever we had big games OOC we lost, sometimes convincingly. When FSU was dominating the 7 dwarves, they were also winning big OOC games.
That said, I think VT should expect Clemson level success and FSU level budgets.
I was at school then, so yes I remember vividly how good we were then. I was a Freshman at the 2005 ACC champ game, when we had one of our best teams ever and they still beat us.
We've never been ranked #1. Florida St has been ranked #1 for 72 weeks, which is 6th all time.
They have 3 national titles, 18 conference titles, 3 Heisman winners, and 45 consensus all-americans.
At our BEST, we were 1-5 in BCS games and won almost no 'big' games. I'm not sure how anyone could justify that were even close to their level.
edit: the link above pretty much shows what I was trying to get at.
I started at VT in 1994. Back then there was no doubt there was a complete class difference between VT and the elite teams. Even as late as 1999 (I was at the Sugar Bowl) you could see that Michael Vick was the only thing keeping in us in the game and it didn't hurt that we had a good OC in Ricky Bustle. The next year VT lost one game to Miami because Vick was hurt and then put it on Clemson 41-20 in the Gator Bowl to go 11-1. As the years progressed our players got better but our offensive coaches did not. It's not like Ricky Bustle was a world class OC but the O'CainSpring years began to hurt offensive recruiting through the '00s. That becomes completely evident by the time the downturn begins. If Beamer replaced Bustle with even a moderately good OC VT's performance against elite teams would look different. Instead 10 wins a season justified questionable offensive play calling while it was clear that eventually the lack of decent offensive coaches was going to start costing us in recruiting. Near the end we didn't even have a decent QB recruit to take over from Logan Thomas. VT could have had a run like FSU if our offensive strategy wasn't to let the QB run for his life and turn a broken play into a big gain which is exactly what it was until Loeffler arrived.
Clarification: I started attending school at VT in 1994.. My closest connection to VT Football was that Antonio Banks was my orientation leader. He walks up to me and says, "What do you weight?" I said, "about 190" (I was a shade under 5'6"). He looks at me and says, "You should walk on." I was like... WHAT??? Needless to say I didn't.
I never started, but what you speak of here is gospel. Bustle recruited me and when he left the offense went to crap. We all spoke of this together behind closed doors.....if you go back through the 2000's you will see a repeated history of being in close games and getting out coached in the second half because our oc couldn't make adjustments
We were Big East / ACC good in the time of the SEC, Big 12 and Pac 10 teams being the best conferences. We were as good on the field as FSU during FSU's down period but still came up short in a lot of big games. Let's not forget they are 3 years removed from a national championship, a Heisman trophy and 12 weeks from being ranked #3 in the country pre-season on hype alone. And they spoiled our one trip to the national title game.
I see I'm not the only one that thinks of BHC whenever I hear his name.
/endthread
I'll never get tired of seeing FSU fans...
Sweet mercy
I got 4-2-3-1, l to r.
2 >
You know they're off-limits to coaches.
See: Bobby Petrino
Just to present all options, no matter how remote, it is worth noting that when Coach Fu came to VT, he inserted his former DC at Memphis, Galen Scott, as an assistant head coach and safeties coach on Bud Foster's staff. He has been learning under Bud for two years now. IF Coach Fu decides to take the FSU job, he could install Galen Scott as his DC.
Let's not forget the option that Fu takes the VT job even if Foster moves on. Then we have DC Galen Scott. I'm sure Scott's a good coach but there are literally a handful of guys on Foster's level. Kirby Smart and Brent Venables come to mind. Part of Fu's record is having Foster's defense. His first two years could have looked like: 5-9 and 7-5 respectively.
If we only win 5 games in year one we can't lose 9 games because we are sitting at home during the ACCCG and bowl season, but your point is vaild.
Jimbo Fisher anagrams to Fiji Hombres
Underrated Comment
So what I am seeing is that there is more to this Fiji Hombres and Pi Kappa Phi Turntle story that what has been uncovered so far....
Pi Sigma Kappa, not Pi Kappa Phi
..FSU sure has a lot of de-commits all of a sudden...
Among the latest update from the link at the top:
Meanwhile, folks don't expect Jimbo to be on the sideline on Saturday.
Khalan Laborn....VT would like a word with you
.....12 freaking months ago.
Not to mention DJ Matthews and Levonta Taylor. Sweat and Nnadi are a little too far gone at this point
for what its worth Jimbo is extremely pissed with how involved the Booster program at FSU is. Long story short he doesn't feel like Boosters should have a say in who is fired and potentially hired but the AD thinks otherwise.
I have a FSU Co-Worker who is a heavy booster and I would 100% agree that they're way too involved and it just makes me hate FSU that much more. Some of the stories I hear about the Booster meetings and $ that is transferred is sickening. Would not be shocked to see some sort of violation comes out if/when Jimbo does leave. Someone will snitch to get back at FSU/Boosters with the way hey're treating him and his family.
#NoClass
I don't doubt this but Jimbo's in for a rude awakening if he thinks the ATM boosters will be easier to deal with.
I think they will be much easier to deal with in one key regard, $$$. TAMU has no qualms about throwing truckloads of money into keeping up in the CFB arms race. Jimbo's biggest beef with FSU's boosters seems to be convincing them to spend money on facilities upgrades and staff. I don't think that'll be a problem in College Station.
Good point. I was referring more to the level of crazy they display. Like having a regent post on facebook that he wants Sumlin fired (Linky).
That FSU class is looking really shaky. Recruits openly questioning the school, coach and their commitment on Twitter.
I'm way more pissed than I should be that this is the year Jimbo bails instead of a year where a top flight recruit had Tech number two.
Are there any FSU recruits that picked had us in their top 3-5, that we could potentially go after? Would love to see a list of this maybe in a separate thread. The only one I can think of is MJ Walker... **Ducks**
They have no committed VA kids so far.
Their #1 is from Md though
Evan Watkins posted something on 247 in the last couple hours saying that a FSU commit has reached out to VT with all the Jimbo rumors going around...
Certainly seems like his potential departure is spooking recruits, as 3 have already decommitted.
Pretty sure he was talking about S John Huggins. I'm not a paying member at 247 but I looked at all their commits who also had a VT offer and that story headline was in his profile.
With that kind of grammar, do we really want him?
He wasn't going to F$U to play school...
what? "The thoughts of my decisions of my decisions"
The kid is thinking so hard even his decisions have decisions. Seems legit...
"thoughts of my decision of my decision" in the singular tho
if you're asking about kids that are already at FSU then there is 0% chance they're allowed/would get full release to transfer to VT. In conference and we play them next year.
If related to current recruits I'm sure a lot of them are looking elsewhere and have been for a few weeks.
I seriously doubt Fuente is going anywhere this year. If he jumps ship from a really good situation at Tech after 2 years, he better be damn sure he is successful at his next stop whether its FSU or somewhere else. His reputation would take a hit in the AD world. Not too many ADs want to go through hiring process again after two years. Its probably the reason why Brohm and UT couldn't come to terms on a salary. Brohm was likely demanding a lot more money than is he worth, not just because of Schanio debacle, but because his reputation would take a hit for bailing on Purdue after 1 season.
I'll also throw out there, I don't think Jimbo's complaints about the facilities at FSU are too out of whack. I've heard multiple media people say FSU is falling behind many other blue bloods when it comes to facilities. Things like can't they get a can of paint in there and about rolling TVs around on carts. Probably exaggerated to some degree but when Miami is about get a brand new indoor practice facility and Florida is working a new football building there is likely a legitimate concern there.
Maybe they should sell that Lambo
And get a turnover Ferrari
FWIW:
JF: New phone, who dis?
Willie Taggart and Charlie Strong are the leading candidates per ESPN Insider.
Fuente already told them no. Right??
Fuente's name wasn't mentioned in the article. I personally thinks it's going to be Willie Taggart being that Oregon is throwing all that money at him to stay knowing FSU wants him.
It most likely will be Taggart but they will absolutely reach out to Fuente... probably won't get far.
Taggart buyout is at $3 million.
Fuente's is 6 million or $5 million if you can hold off until Dec. 15
Early Singing period is December 20th so waiting till 15th is EXTREMELY RISKY.
Whit Babcock, Contract Extraordinaire
Funny, the basketball fans would beg to differ.
We have a contract with Buzz Williams. That's extraordinary in its own right
both to 2023
That's a good point. The fact that our basketball program is not a laughing stock is due to Whit hiring Buzz. It's so easy for people (including myself) to quickly forget that historically the state of our basketball program is...not good.
I agree with this.
Maybe I'm in the minority, but I wish it was easy to forget how bad our program has been historically. We've never won more than one Tournament game in only 8 trips since 1967, before the Tournament had more than 25 teams in it.
Edit: Sorry to take this further OT, but I'm officially done with the useless hand-wringing
Football scoop just posted an update, saying that they haven't heard too much on Fuente, but actually think that Sumlin and Fisher might swap jobs. Interesting to say the least.
You definitely should follow them on social media - they are by far the best at knowing what is going on in the coaching industry. Teel, Bitter, Bud, Fuente all follow them.
Also, keep an eye on Pat Forde. He must have special line for Whit or something because he broke the news for both Buzz and CJF
Tennessee is planning on talking to Kevin Sumlin now that Doeren turned them down.
TomahawkNation's sources say they don't expect to go after Sumlin. Taggart is their #1, it sounds like.
Of course, Oregon is well aware of this: Oregon making big offer to try to keep Willie Taggart away from FSU
Nike 'bout to open that fat purse.
It is a sweet time to be an employed P5 coach. There are so many available jobs that guys don't even have to be proven yet to get a raise and extension.
If we get Fuente to hang around long term, while winning, he will certainly be an anomaly. Hell even Beamer all but left for the damn Tar Holes. I get the feeling that even if we did win big, we would never be able to pay a coaching staff like some other programs who cant break .500. It is extremely annoying that schools like Texas A&M and others who really haven't won in years and have a program in shambles has all the money to raid other schools coaches that are trying to build something.
Every year that goes by we will just be holding our breath. Then if we do lose him, it will be the same ol story again. If a coach does well, somebody else will get him, if he doesn't well that sucks too. I don't think we really appreciated the stability we had with Beamer.
I think we appreciated it; I certainly did. There was a small percentage that couldn't handle the decline in the last few years. But Beamer couldn't stay forever, so it was 100% the right time.
Beamer stuck the landing.
I don't think he could have timed it better, really, and the transition was pretty amazing.
In retrospect, even those last few awful seasons made for a good transition. It set up Fuente for success even with a 9 won regular season. If Beamer had kept up 10-11 win regular seasons, the standard would be impossibly high for his successor.
As painful as that was at the time, I think you're right.
And we may not have gotten Fuente. Beamer would've stuck around for a couple more years and who knows where Fuente would be now.
Which is ironic because Beamer took control after a 10 win season
No. What happened was that CFB never - aside from the UNC dalliance - gave us any reason to worry, which is why all this worry about Fuente feels so weird. It's a muscle VT fans have never had to use.
We appreciated it so much that we forgot that, in the real (non-Frank) world, sometimes coaches leave.
I really don't understand the woe-is-me attitude a large portion of our fan base has. This was a rebuilding year, and not like a "now that we're looking back on it and making excuses for a disappointing year" rebuilding year, we all knew from the start our ceiling in this year was lower than it will be once the Fuente regime builds some steam. Miami has shown what the potential is for a one-loss Coastal team and there is no reason to believe we can't replicate their season this year, next year. We have a very reasonable path to the ACCCG>CFP>Natty Champ. That makes us more than just a stepping stone.
We are years behind in fundraising compared to schools like A&M, if all they have going for them over us is money and we have superior fans, culture, and AD I'll take that. I live in Texas and know lots of Aggies, their good ol' boy booster club sounds exhausting for any coach.
Im not disappointed in this season on the field at all. I think Fuente is doing a great job, Im not complaining about that. Im just saying the potential, which may be none btw, of him leaving is something we aren't really accustomed to. He has exceeded expectations as far as I am concerned. But it isn't realistic to think that a coach who has no ties to the school, who has success here will make a career of it here. We do have a reasonable path, but using that path so do 4 or 5 at least other schools just in this conference. Having a one loss season is not easy, we have not had one since 2000 when we also had the #1 NFL draft pick playing QB for us. Whether you call it a stepping stone or not, 8-10 wins here will get Fuente a lot of attention year after year from big $$. We don't have the money, and it has been shown there is about 20 some schools every year who also recruit better.
Now on the bright side, if Fuente is the man and if he wants to stay, I don't see why he couldn't build a Clemson here. We have the DC, we need the QB, some more playmakers and a bit more depth. I do think this program is capable of attracting enough talent but its no question easier at some other places.
I agree with you that if our program continues to improve over the next 2-3 years Fuente will be a big target for the "Blue Bloods" and I am definitely not looking forward to it. I would just like to think if he does well enough to get poached by an absolute top program his tenure here would have been enough of a growth opportunity for us that we'd be even more attractive for the next guy.
In regards to the one-loss season comment, I am definitely one of the fans that has a tough time managing expectations when it comes to our football team. If our offense becomes what we are all hoping it will become next season and beyond we can be a real threat. Then let's just never face a dual-threat QB ever again (hey its possible, right?) and BOOM, Natty Champ!
aTm has the nicest facilities in the SEC, and have deeper pockets than any school, maybe even Texas. They churn out grads like they're printing money, with an undergrad population of 52K. Many of their alumsvwork in the oil business, and we all know the revenue that can generate. I for one would like to visit College Station, just to see for myself.
BTW, where in Texas are you? I reside east of Dallas. It's always good to know there are other Hokies around!
It's really amazing that aTm isn't a massive college football powerhouse. Plenty of money, in the middle of Texas and southern recruiting regions. Great stadium, great fans.
Fort Worth! I thought I could be a TCU "fan" when I moved here but I've found that come gameday I just always root for everyone not in orange and maroon to lose. Kinda irrational considering they don't impact us at all but the heart wants what it wants.
I'm in corpus !
All I know of Corpus is from Robert Earl Keen songs, sounds like a nice town.
I think most people did appreciate the stability with Beamer. It is a different ballgame these days
It strikes me that Justin Fuente is not the type of guy that sees the turmoil and hubbub in Tallahassee and Knoxville and says "now THAT's what I call a perfect next job". These are the types of environments that I would think JF would find unpalatable.
I know, "but the money tho". I know, "FSU and Tenn are more prestigious programs". But at what cost? Boosters making hiring decisions? Media releasing the AD's cell number? Shit, the Vol fan base basically just yelled "PENN STATE!" until Schiano was unhireable. At VT, he controls his own destiny. Why would he leave VT to walk into either of these hot zones? (others seem to feel that same re Tenn - see Doeren, Gundy, Cut, who else?)
As soon as the coaching searches at Tenn and FSU became media circuses, I stopped worrying about Fuente leaving. And started hoping one of them hired Lane Kiffin. (If Oregon makes Taggart too rich to leave, I'd absolutely kick Kiffin's
asstires...)Sounds like Fuente isn't on FSU's list because he's white. No lie. Mark Schlbaugh was just on The Six and said FSU would like to hire a minority candidate if Fisher leaves and that Taggert, Strong, and Sumlin are the top candidates. I'm a supporter of diversity anyway but doubly so now that means a team with deep pockets isn't looking at Fuente.
I heard that as well. Not sure why Wilcox would come out and openly say that. Why not just hire a minority if that's what you want to do?
I would have thought a school looking to hire a minority coach would give Fuente some consideration.
Isn't CJF white Latino?
Yeah, Cuban.
EDIT: I'm wrong. Spanish.
http://www.espn.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/91724/justin-fuentes-great-grandf...
Always leg 'Half Baked'.
Just noticed your signature. Leg to you, sir.
Is that a reference to Ghostbusters 2, because it sounds like that's a reference to Ghostbusters 2
Depends on whether you are thinking Latino extends across the ocean, (which technically it should to include Spain and Portugal) then yes.
Why should any of that matter? Have we already forgotten...
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
Hire someone because they're the best candidate, not because they do/don't belong to a certain sociological group, political group, or what have you.'
That anyone would state FSU is considering these men because they're a minority just... it infuriates me and saddens me because it comes across as that's the only reason/main reason they're being considered and that they may be getting considerations over people who are more qualified and could potentially be a disservice to these three men.
I'll be even more angry if it's proven true (which I realize will be exceptionally difficult to do) because at that point it tokenizes these three individuals. :(
I really only think the people who were talking about Fuente leaving in any earnest was us......
All but official. He gone.
Not sure what this means, if he's loyal to the Ducks, the guys hes recruited this year, or if he's moving on...
I just saw on Warchant that Willie Taggart and Justin Fuente are the two top targets for Thrasher, Wilcox and the Booster president. at FSU. I had not seen any editorial on CJF until this. I still don't think Fu would go to that cesspool of a job.
Texas A&M expects to have a board meeting to approve their new coach on Friday. That's tomorrow! Wow, didn't see that coming that quick.
Per Newy Scruggs
"Sources tell @NBCDFWSports that former Texas Tech coach Mike Leach is working on a deal to become the next coach at Tennessee. A deal could be announced Friday. I'm working on more details."
Edit: Wrong Thread
:O
Now there's a man crazy enough to do it. Godspeed, pirate-man.
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I just imagine him putting the entire team on a boat and taking a short ride to the stadium, sorta like Clempsun only on a boat!
That would be hype af.
New company car
...well first FSU has to become bowl eligible.
And they need to win the game to get bowl-eligible, possibly without their HC.
From what I've been reading tonight, the biggest hold up in this saga is that Jimbo will be coaching on Saturday.
Go on Jimbo, sink the ship and walk away
I guess when Jimbo decides to go for it on 4th and 9 from his own 22 yard line this weekend, we will understand.
Losing to ULM would be the perfect way to end this saga.
https://tamu.rivals.com/news/aggies-reel-in-fisher
Just seen this a few minutes ago. Apparently its a done deal, according to this article.
Well this article certainly makes it seem like Jimbo might have been headed to A&M since the beginning of the season....
Houston Chronicle: Texas A&M officials, Jimbo Fisher remain coy about coaching status
It's burning down....
Players have lost trust in Jimbo......
This is only a small trash fire in the fire pit compared to Tennessee.
Was just about to post this; you beat me to it. They go on to say that if he coaches the last game, they will transfer; VT has some spots open for you all, IJS #TheNumbersAlwaysWorkOut
That's weak at best. You'll know that he's moving his shit when the port-a-potty gets taken.
FYI: if you're still tracking flights you're being left in the dust. WE TRACKIN CHRISTMAS TREES NOW Y'ALL.
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO THE GROUND
Latest update:
And later this weekend when FSU hires someone, Tennessee will be like
Pray they don't pull Fuente out of here. It looks like a shitty situation at FSU right now, but anything can happen in the College Football Coaching Carousel
Funny you used a Katherine Heigl gif cuz I've heard she's a real Butch....
But she's sooooo hot
I've read Jimbo's move was in part due to son's medical condition that requires trips to Houston, posted by several fans on Twitter, although I cannot confirm /sauces
Now go hire Taggart. Please, and yes, Frost to Oregon, just to piss off Nebraska, who would then hire Leach, who then won't be the coach at Tennessee, and Christmas will roll around, and Tennessee will be talking to...Bret Bielema!
Some ESPN guys mentioned on a podcast that Jimbo has some rough things going on family wise, but didn't go into any further than that. I guess that would be it. Can't really fault him if he is moving to improve the situation for his family. Perhaps it could have been executed better.
Scot Loeffler to FSU. He showed the Noles what offense looks like this year. With BC, no less.
I would be so happy for Scot, he was a class act while here at Tech. He might not have done what we as a fan base wanted, but nobody can doubt that he put in the effort.
If he ever has command of the athletic talent to execute his schemes, he'll be scary.
Agreed. He got 1000 yards of out Travon McMillian during a year Michael Brewer was injured.
Seems ESPN is even floating some Fuente speculation:
http://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/21631488/jimbo-fisher-le...
I wonder just how legit this is. I don't see him going there. But in the article, they take about large sums of money, and I mean large...
And there you have espn speculation