http://mgoblue.com/news/2018/3/29/michigan-announces-changes-to-2020-and...
The home-and-home series with Virginia Tech scheduled for the 2020 and 2021 seasons has been terminated, with potential future dates to be discussed at a later date; Michigan has agreed to pay VT a $375,000 cancellation fee. The two programs were set to meet in Ann Arbor on Sept. 19, 2020, and in Blacksburg on Sept. 11, 2021.
I was really looking forward to this series.
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Danny Coale caught that pass!
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Michigan wussed out. Weak......
Harbaugh's reaction when he found out he would to have play in Lane:
Which meant Harbaugh would have had to spring for a new pair of Lululemon khakis...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/early-lead/wp/2017/03/24/michigans-j...
they misspelled McChicken in the press release
Those damn pansies
Just in time to keep the rivalry going!!!!
lol what a laughably small buyout.
Not surprised to see Harbaugh buy this out. That man has built a house of cards and is terrified its about to crumble.
Are you kidding? He's a quarterback whisperer. Who else could teach kids to throw that many interceptions. And nobody is happier than me with his record vs their rivals 1-5 with no B1G championship game appearances.
Great... I guess that means we get some shitty no name cupcake to fill the space. Fuck Michigan.
We're playing UVA twice?
Can't do that, only one FCS win can count towards your bowl eligibility.
Unless you're Florida state
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Dang, wonder who we got dumped for?
Very disappointing, probably going to be hard for Whit to find another marquee program to replace this home/home series starting only 2 years out, no?
They picked up Arkansas State for a home game.
Guess Appy State wasn't available.
App St was first to call.
Harbaugh answered the phone actually...
Your friggin' kidding.....
http://mgoblue.com/news/2018/3/29/michigan-announces-changes-to-2020-and...
Well that is bullshit.
Buyouts agreements need to go way up. Need less of an excuse for a big program like that to backout of a competitive game, for a warm-up game, only 2 years out..
Hard for me to look at this any other way than Harbum/Michigan wanting an easier game and hopeful win on the schedule.
Really don't get the apprehension from P5 programs to play more than 1 OOC game against a premier opponent. I was really looking forward to getting Penn State and Michigan in one season.
Would like Notre Dame to become a full conference member or go the hell away already.
VT already has PSU on the schedule in 2020 and ND and WVU on the schedule in 2021. As fans we're bummed but I don't think the coaches are that upset about this development.
I bet Bud is a little disappointed. I'm sure he wanted payback just like all of us
He can take his frustrations out on Loeffler and BC when they play this year. (I know, Loeffler wasn't coaching that team, but I still want to crush them.)
Let's worry about payback to GT before we worry about Mich
No reason to worry about them if you're never playing them
You little sissy boy! Def Leppard sucks!
Leg for Joe Dirt reference.
We'll be okay. It sucks to lose a big time matchup, but in 2021 we were slated to play Michigan, WVU, and Notre Dame out of conference. That would've been brutal. 2020 could be better, but at least we have Penn St at home that year.
Let's give Whit a round of applause, he knew that the OOC schedule in 2021 was horrific and he convinced Michigan to foot the bill for not playing. Never, I repeat, Never play Whit in poker. His poker face game is strong.
Let's just replace them with Ohio State...suck it Harbaugh!
Harbaugh won't even be there in 2020, don't see what he's worried about
He'll be looking at an 0-6 record against Ohio State if he's still around. Better replace Virginia Tech with Arkansas State to keep the fans docile.
If he does survive that long, I hope they lose and he gets canned in the first four weeks of the 2020 season.
It was a catch
Use some of the money to cancel ECU and put the rest towards... literally anything else
I figured this means we have to play ECU twice now, each season.
I know you kid, but are there actually rules against playing the same team twice in a season (excluding post-season play)? Could you do a home-and-home in one season? Be kind of interesting, especially if they were back-to-back.
Liberty and New Mexico state have two home-and-home series scheduled for 2018 and 2019.
Mainly because they're both independent and can't find 11 teams that want to play them.
People forget that the Hokies have beaten OSU more times since 2012 than Michigan.
Total wins at Ohio Stadium in the 21st century:
Virginia Tech = 1
Michigan = 1
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Can't wait to see who Whit, Fuente, & Co schedule in their place
Someone like Arkansas State or Liberty I'm sure. Who else are you going to get a home and home with on short notice. Most P5 schools have their schedules booked solid for the next 5 years already
More like Harbaughless, amirite?
But actually, can we play Ohio State again instead? If for nothing else than the lulz
On Reddit they were suggesting we play Michigan State
I want a fuck-ton of nothing to do with the Michigan State dumpster fire.
Id be happy if Whit pulled Tech out of every matchup with Liberty, Baylor and Michigan State for a long long time.
I would kind of like that. My Dad did his graduate studies at Michigan State back in the 60's. It would be nice to take him back for a game.
Not sure why everyone is so sure harbaugh is awful and getting canned soon. He's near god status in Ann Arbor and has UM closer to relevant then his last few predecessors.
Unreasonable fan base
They love Harbaugh up here
Until all of a sudden they won't. How many consecutive OSU losses is it gonna take?
No coach has gone worse than 0-4.
Hey Harbaugh can set a new Michigan record!
I live in Michigan country and I haven't noticed any love for Harbaugh this year. The honeymoon phase is over, most fans are basically saying if he can't make Shea Patterson great this year then he's not as good of a coach as they thought (which he isn't, but Michigan isn't as good of a program as they think either).
Where you at? Over here in GR/KZoo everyone I work with thinks he's the second coming of Schembechler.
Gesundheit.
I may be mistaken, but I think his numbers match Brady Hoke production for the same time period. He just has more charisma.
But Hoke beat anOSU.
Is Rutgers or Maryland available? Replace one sucky B1G team with another!
No
I would love to fill up Maryland's crappy stadium again with VT fans and blow them out, a la, 2011?
We're already playing enough of Maryland.
I'd much rather play someone who thinks they're at the top of the Big 10. Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan State, Michigan.
Sucks to lose out on Michigan, though I'd prefer to only have one of these in a given year.
I'd be in favor of some Big 12 action. Let's get OSU, OU, or UT.
SEC-wise, UGA isn't a long trip.
Bring on the GameCocks!
Nevermind...
The best possible outcome out of this would be for Whit to work out a 2019-2020 home and home with a good P5 team. The 2019 home schedule desperately needs a big game. Use the Michigan buyout money to buyout ODU or ECU in 2019.
I would be fine with this change if we could improve the awful 2019 schedule. I can't remember a worse home schedule than that.
Speaking of future schedules, just looked way ahead...in 2027, we play Liberty at home...on November 20th. Why? Why? Whyyyyy???
That really doesn't bother me. Gives a chance for the team to rest up, before making it 24 in a row against LOLUVA. Between Liberty and LOLUVA we should be nice and rested for that ACC championship game.
Can we get aTm in their place?
They already have a P5 oppopenet each year. One home one away.
Honestly? I'm kinda ok if we replace them with a decent but not strong mid major, or a weak P5 school. Those schedules already include Penn St, Miami, and @ UofL in 2020 and ND, @ WVU, @ Miami 2021. Those schedules are pretty tough as it is. Wouldn't be the worst idea to throw a couple sure wins on there, given we're trying to angle to be in the playoff race by then.
I'd like the battle at Bristol again tbh
I would love a home and home with UT, but Bristol can fuck the hell off.
You don't have to ask her twice
Dear parties involved in screwing this up for us,
Sincerely,
Hokie Nation
Their scouts are obviously projecting that we are going to have another badass white receiver that catches impossible TD's...
Go
BlueOrangesWhat about Boise? They'll play anyone, anywhere
Not again, they are back to being a damned if you do or don't team.
I don't like that mentality. If fact, it's how Michigan obviously viewed us unfortunately. And with the state of the playoffs, I don't blame them. There is no reason to load up your schedule.
There was a time when they were worth playing.
Nothing in it at this point.
Sure, i'd like to play Boise again.
I've heard Boise is a bitchin' place to visit. Though that game @ FedEx was soul crushing, the Boise fans we're incredibly nice people and good fans all-around.
Why did they have to be so friggin' nice?
That was the worst part. Last minute heroics by Kellen Moore left me mad/sad, I leave the stadium and here are all these nice people dressed in smurf blue telling us 'great game' and offering you free food and beers.
Oh, I know. The Boise fans next to us made that loss so much easier to take. It's like finding out Mr. Steal-yo-girl helped your grandma across the street.
I thought that made it all the more soul-crushing at the time.
That was the time to capitalize on success, not to lose nationally-televised games.
It kinda made it worse. It kinda made it easier. Their overly polite fans kinda forced both. It was weird though. Is it Idaho's proximity to Canada? I dunno.
And you're right. That was definitely an inopportune time to lose, and we most certainly should not have.
It was just an exhibition game anyway. Everyone knows the real season of conference play!
Do we have a home and home with Maryland on the schedule?
2026 and 2027. If we're still alive then.
Needs more khaki.
Feed me the PAC-12 #HokiesAfterDark, I'd love Wazzu/Zona if either can keep trending up.
No fucking way! I don't wanna have to deal with PAC refs.
Are the refs that bad? Maybe I'm numb to it, but I've never really seen horrible refereeing that makes me question the game/ a systemic lack of integrity or football knowledge. Honestly if you leave the game in the ref's hands the only thing I can say is sorry about your luck. Plus I want to see Hokie imperialism from coast to coast.
I hear you about the imperialism part, but yes, they really are THAT BAD. The PAC refs are the same brood that screwed Danny Coale out of that catch.
Maybe it's cause I wasn't a fan at the time so I'm not psychologically scarred by that event and I believe short term memory is important in sports win lose or draw. Unless it's completely blatant and egregious almost to the point where someone has to come out and publicly apologize then I'm not ready to put Refs high on my blame list. If I'm being honest pac 12 is up there just for the uniqueness it adds to our schedule. Honestly If I could pick one from each conference it would be Texas A&M, TCU, Wisconsin PAC 12 TBD (hard to tell who would be good match up/ storyline)
You would've been 16. But I was a fan before birth. Trust me. Go on YouTube and watch the game. You'll see for yourself. There's plenty of other examples, but that one takes the cake
That's the closest I've ever came to crying after a game. Not sadness, but I was just so damn angry.
Would murder for a home and home with Wazzu... they're about 2 hours east of me, I'd actually be able to see a Hokie game in person for the first time in a long time!
I really like Leach, he is such a wildcard, plus I'm not sure where we are at in terms of relative strength with the conference but I feel wazzu is a favorable match up.
Plus, I talked with the Wazzu flag folks at GameDay. Pretty cool. We were both dreaming of a potential Rose Bowl matchup as a semi-final against each other.
Oh, and they hate Washington like we hate UVA.
They have the weird little brother-big brother-actual rival dynamic that Michigan-MSU-OSU and OKST-OK-UT have where the the state school considers the flagship school their biggest rival but the flagship considers another flagship their rival.
UVA doesn't exactly have that going on.... maybe with UNC so they can jerk to oldest southern rivalry thing, but both of them know who Daddy is.
Who is UDubs rival ? I always thought the apple cup was the end all be all, is it Oregon? Thinking about it now it's weird how so many rivalries feel like they could fall under this dynamic.
Oregon
I have heard the UVA-UNC argument so many damn times. I don't get it. They do know they kinda have a big thing going with Duke, right?
Marshall has an open non-conference slot for those seasons.
Definitely not the worst thing that could happen.
It would definitely sell out Lane given how well MU fans travel. And Marshall is a lot better than most G5 schools we play (e.g. ECU) and some P5 schools. The only thing is that MU would want a home-and-home. Given that Tech already has a home-and-home with Liberty in the future, I don't necessarily see a trip to Huntington being on a Tech fan's wishlist. I would like it, though, because of convenience and it's good for MU.
I'm for anyone that keeps us from playing Liberty. 2020 is already shot on that front, but if we can keep them off our schedule in 2021, a small victory will already be won.
I went to the last game we played in Huntington. It was actually a pretty good visit. The Marshall fans were very hospitable and were just happy they scored points during the game.
Yeah, Marshall fans are much better behaved than the fans of the other division 1 school in the mountain state.
Bluefield State?
BSC isn't quite division 1 yet. Maybe they'll pursue it though.
(It was a shot at that other supposed D1 school up in the panhandle...dad is a Marshall grad.)
I'm hoping for TCU - they have a home and home with Cal those years, maybe they will add another P5?
With Fuente's history, this has all kinds of intrigue.
As an alum of both places I am disappointed with the athletics department at UM. I was looking forward to watching my Hokies in the big house and my Wolverines in Lane Stadium
Randy Mac?
PAC12 opponent to replace? Haven't seen that conference in a minute
Just remember PAC12 teams = PAC12 refs
Unless we go for a neutral site one-off.
And that's a very likely replacement for whichever year we were supposed to go to Michigan, especially since our schedule is already pretty packed for the next decade.
Okie St. seriously
I agree. Stillwater is one of the few schools that would a) actually be worth a home and home and b) is within driving distance for me. (Boulder, Lubbock, Manhattan, Lincoln, Norman, MAYBE Lawrence).
Please please please sign up Cal and/or a PAC 12 school. Please expand our brand outside the East Coast
They already have TCU sand UNLV they won't. Whit is going to struggle to find a P5 so everyone better accepts it's going to be a G5 game.
I say we make things interesting and schedule Memphis.
I'd be cool with this.
I think it would have to be a 2 for 1 though. If we can't get a home and home P5 team then we need to do what is best for the program (i.e. $$$) and unfortunately that is going to be 2 home G5 games. I was going to say FCS but I assume we already have those booked.
I am more concerned about the 2019 home schedule but there is probably nothing we can do at this point. Our best home game is...... umm.... Pitt?
Thinking about that home schedule makes me sick.
Make sure we let them know that Ohio State didn't wimp out.
Exactly. OSU aren't a bunch of scared little girls.
MiChicken.
Frankly, this sucks. Even less respect for Michigan and Harbaugh now and that Michigan grad chick I went on 4 dates with who stole my favorite VT sweatshirt.
I dated a girl from Michigan for 3 years. I got hammered at a wedding a pulled her aside and no so quietly told her, "Just so you, I love you, but Danny Coale caught that FUCKING ball." She had no clue what I was talking about.
Wait-you told her you loved her!? Damn, must've been hecka shmashed.
Hawaii away and away
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Call up Hawaii, UNLV, and SDSU. Best offer gets us to visit.
A trip to Hawaii would net us a 13th regular season game to help offset travel costs, and would open us up to playing in week 0. So, right off the bat, the Hawaii offer includes extra Hokie football.
you had me at a trip to hawaii
Let's play Tennessee in place of Bitchigan. Home and Home. I dislike their fans as much as anyone else but it's a solid matchup and geographical rival.
I would love to go to see the Hokies play in their stadium too. It would be a solid trade on missing out on seeing the Hokies play in the big house.
I think we should start some type of series with them. I would not say play them often, but maybe something like 3 times a decade. A home and home and then Bristol. Bristol should definitely be no more than once every 10 years. It would lose it's luster any more than that since we do not have a rivalry with Tennessee.
Said no one, ever.
Don't get me wrong, Bristol was spectacular. But, that was entirely due to the sold out stadium, the fanfare, all of the events over the weekend, and having 30 friends and family there. If it was more often, I can guarantee it would not sell out and lose it's shine. There are too many seats for Tenn and VT fans alone. This would likely lead to other teams being invited, and I want this to be exclusive to VT and Tenn. If it becomes consistent, I want this game to be special each and every time it happens.
I don't ever want to have it there, ever again. Ever.
Thought you were saying you wanted it more often. Why do you not want it there ever again?
MOST of the reactions I've read/heard (game score aside) indicated that it sucked.
It was a logistics nightmare on all accounts. Prior, during, and after. I live an hour away and I would likely not do that again. Horrible.
I thought it was awesome. Traffic sucked, but that was expected. The whole event was a lot of fun. We stayed at a house in the mountains with friends and family about an hour out. We went to the concert on Friday and tailgates for about 4 hours. Shared some moonshine with Tennessee fans who were great to hang out with. Gameday was a blast. We tailgated about 10 hours with food and drinks all day. It took about 30 minutes to get to our seats which we planned for. After the game we tailgated/ slept for 2-3 hours to miss some of the traffic. Overall I had an extremely positive experience.
I would definitely do it again. I just want the event to be this big every time, so I think it would have to be rare.
Florida Atlantic! Bring Lane Kiffin to Lane
$375,000 will hire 5 interns @ $10/hr working 20hr/wk a piece for 7 years. Interns could help:
-Create graphics/highlight videos for recruits
-Pick up kids from airports/drive kids to airports
-Help set up for OV's/UV's
-Give tours of the facilities (when coaches can't)
-All the behind the scenes stuff so that the coaches/Guerry/etc. can focus on more pressing issues
Or it could help fill the deficit that Tech has run the last two years.
Pre or post Unca Sam??
I'm curious if we could move whatever one of our "cupcake games" to fill the Michigan game weekend we now have void, talk to a few schools and see if maybe they could do the same with one of their cupcake games for the same corresponding weekend, and then set up a marquee season opening type Labor Day games vs quality Top 15 opponent.
Or is that too much to try to do?
Bitter puts forth the possibility of a neutral site game in 2020.
And by that, he could mean ODU or ECU themselves. We don't have either scheduled in 2021. We have ECU at home in 2020 and 2022, so an away game there could easily drop in.
It's not hard to reschedule the individual games this far in advance. I never trust the non-conference schedule dates until the entire schedule has been announced for a given season (other than the big games like Bristol).
We know it's happened before with VT. Our 2007 LSU game was supposed to be in 2004, but got bumped for USC. (We probably would have had better luck with LSU in 2004). The Boise game at FedEx was originally an October game until ESPN threw a bunch of money at us to make it Labor Day. (Probably would have had better luck catching Boise in midseason).
The 2013 Alabama game caused a ripple effect that took ECU off the schedule in 2012 and 2013. We added Austin Peay State in 2012. Then Pitt joined the ACC halfway through our home-and-home OOC series with them, which put ECU back on the 2013 schedule, and dumped FSU off. (Yeah, pretty much every version of that schedule has its downsides.)
^This guy schedules.
when you hear blue bloods talk about their long standing rivalries and second and third most played teams, I'm convinced that's going to be us in 30 years talking about how we can't drop the series with ECU for historical reasons
Speaking of Meeshugan, I'm guessing nobody on here had any fucks to give that Nova obliterated them in hoops.
Nope, didn't watch but would have wanted Nova over UM.