I, and I am sure all the rest of us old folks, are looking forward to your feedback and observations.
Worth looking for:
1) How are quarterback repetitions being divided up?
2) What is the pecking order at defensive end behind Hill (who has been participating based on the social media posts) and Gaines?
3) Is Devon Hunter being used exclusively at whip? What is the depth chart looking like at free safety with Deablo being dinged up?
4) Who is missing that hasn't been discussed as injured, if anyone?
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5) ANY info on the tailback situation.
6) OL groupings. I still have no idea how that will shake out.
Dzansi-Plantin-Chung-Pfaff-Nijman (inside three are just about locks if injury free)
Darrisaw-L. Smith-Hoyt-A. Brown/Cannon-T. Smith
Jackson/Kearns-Cannon/A. Brown-L. Mihota/Kane-L.Mihota/Kane- Hopple/Jackson
Harris will come in and work at LG, Culver at LT, and Tenuta will likely be at RT.
That obviously makes sense based on what we've seen, I just don't know if they'll move Nijman off of LT since he's the only proven outside player. They seem to love musical OT in the spring. But I'm also a huge T.Smith fan, so I'm hoping he gets reps with the 1s and can earn a spot.
Edit: literal first thing I read after posting this was Bitter's report of the LT situation lol
Good post !
And perfectly timed...
Wish I could help, but professor scheduled an exam at 8 tonight.
Fight your professor.
I'm sorry what?
We made a deal that by scheduling the exam at night we get twice the time to do the test. So I guess I can't complain too much though.
Hope he didn't just make the test itself twice as long or twice as difficult. That would've been a bad deal.
Bummer
I was going to blame Jean Lacoste, but then noticed you were not a business major.
My engineering professors used to pull these stupid night exams on occasion.
Nachlas (sp?) in ISE is/was famous for it. The worst part is I was taking his class as an elective and always had an ME exam the next day. So while my ISE buddies could go out and drink afterwards, I had to start studying for another exam when it was done.
There is nothing like starting to study less than 12 hours before the exam. Bonus points for if you can still manage greater than 6 hours of sleep in that time.
Those two things sound mutually exclusive
In ME back in the day (way back in the day), the profs would all schedule exams during the same week but on different days (M/W/F). This ISE prof would have his exam the same week but on Thursday night and he would cancel class on Friday. So I'd get done with my ISE exam at 9 or 10 on Thursday and then start studying for whatever exam I had on Friday.
At least 90% of my engineering exams were at night because they were too long (2+ hours) to be held during a regular class period.
Fuck that. You can't schedule me an exam outside my class period! How the hell do they get away with that?
In 1980, my Business Stats professor and another prof scheduled every test at night for all the sections these two taught because a normal class period was not long enough for the test. People would spend 1.5 - 3 hours on them.
The MWF class sessions are only 50 minutes long. It's tough to fit an exam in that short of a window.
That's their fault then. I schedule my classes at the times I do for a reason. Now your telling it's not really a MWF class from 11-1240. But I'll have 8pm classes too, NOOOPEEEEE.
Honestly I preferred night exams. I could do a full daytime cram with no all nighter. Night exams also gave you plenty of time. I hated having to feel rushed while taking an exam, especially math and accounting exams.
Some of it's also to deter cheating. Made it impossible to share exam questions with people taking the classes at different times. Probably a bigger deal now that everyone has a high megapixel camera in their pocket.
And when my job, kids or life outside college has plans at 8pm?
Unless things have changed in the later 2000's VT's exam schedule has never followed it's class time schedule for as long as I have known. I had exams in day and night, though mostly day, but never on the class appointed time. As a student it's up to you to manage your time to make your exams and VT's exam schedule has always been fairly aggressive.
anyone know if that has changed?
When I was at school in Australia we were two weeks before exams started and I remember leaving studio and one of the Australian students goes to the professor and I witnessed the following:
Student: Excuse me professor, but would it be alright if I delay my studio project submission?
professor: Oh why is that?
Student: I have the exam for (another class, forget which one) that is on Tuesday (a full day and half before Studio submission) and I would like to fully prepare for that exam Sunday and Monday. So would it be alright if I submit two days later?
Professor: That seems reasonable, sure. Just drop it by my office by noon.
My jaw hit the floor. One year at VT I had two days of 3 exams each, one right after the other, and the professors would NEVER reschedule.
These are midterms right not finals? Finals were always at odd times but never mid-semester tests or exams. How can a normal during the semester class have night exams? As an adult going back to college if a professor told me this I would be telling him to fuck off right then and there. Either change the class assigned time or change the length of your exam.
yeah they are talking about mid-terms. But I think all exams work on different schedule.
Physics exams were always Friday nights at 7pm when I was in school.
That is sadistic!
Same at Radford. It'd be dark across campus and there'd be 200 students all walking to it in silence. Me and one of my roommates were in the same physics that semester. Whenever we would get to the apartment it was either "we did great! Partytime!" or "we just bombed that...let's party it away!" We threw downnn after those marathons.
"Lets slam some mad dog and gin bucket then walk to Mike's from dark side/light side for some pizza rolls"
I don't remember this at all, and I was in Physics between 1990 and 1997.
Maybe this was *why* I was in Physics between 1990 and 1997.
I'm pretty sure the time slot for tests was made known at the beginning of the semester. No offense, but if a student can't make that work, maybe there are more suitable educational opportunities.
I was trying to read this with an Aussie accent.
That is odd, when I was at Tech in the 90's it was a policy that if you had 3 exams in 24 hours you could move one of them. The professor didn't have a choice if you referenced that policy.
Of course the one time that came up for me, I had engineering cultures, engineering economy, and a real engineering class. I didn't bother to study for 2 of the three anyway.
This was a thing through 2013 too, not sure if it still is, but it only applied during finals week.
I loved it when 3 exams fell that close together. It meant the rest of exam week was that much more open and I figured if I had to cram for the exam, I didn't learn the material anyway. Most times I was in a position where acing the exam wouldn't really help my grade and I probably wouldn't do so bad that it would lower my grade significantly so why stress?
Exam week was one of my favorite times of the year because there were no classes, but everyone had to be there. Lots of video games, sports on the drillfield, everything fun about college.
yeah me as well. just get them done and have fun
yeah that was a rule when I was there too. I don't remember why but there was a reason why I wanted to just get them done.
It was absolutely commonplace to have a test schedule outside normal hours. Usually for courses that had multiple classes but same material. Can't have the same test administered in more than one time slot and different tests is unfair to the student.
Exactly what I would tell a professor scheduling school time outside of scheduled times.
I think we all understand your position on it but the fact is telling them off isn't going to change their mind. It's how it is, so ultimately you hold the power to show up and complete the exam or not and take a zero.
And in my experience (having seen both sides of things), it is certainly appreciated that what works for a typical undergrad does not work well for the non-traditional student. If an exam time is an infringement upon childcare, work, or other family obligations, a simple sit-down meeting with the professor to request taking the exam at an alternate time typically goes over just fine, rather than indignation. It's not all that uncommon at the graduate level when some students are married and/or starting families.
Quality communication never solves anything. /s
College is hard. Back in the day I had to take a zero on a vector geometry test in order to attend my grandfather's funeral. I was livid at the time but I made it through. At the end of the day the world unfortunately does not align itself to fit your schedule. #lifelessons.
That's actually not really true. Outside of the academic world most jobs will work with you for things like a funeral or childcare or a spouses work schedule. Hell I've had my kids at the firehouse because my wife had to go in and do an emergency procedure. A professor being u willing to be flexible or understanding isn't real life it's the bubble of control that person works and lives in, where you do it their way or no way. Well that's not how the real world works.
I think you're BOTH right. I also believe if HF (& others) can negotiate/force/weasel/whatever exam times because #life, they should absolutely do it.
Like VTGuitarMan said, maintaining an open dialogue with your professors is key. I was a non-traditional student at VT in every sense and the only thing I had serious issues with was trying to meet others for group projects because I had an hour commute to campus where others had a 5 minute bus ride.
I agree with the talking and discussion. My earlier posts were mostly in jest. But I can tell you I have no issue either making a respectful scene or confronting a teacher over unfair practices or going to administration. This willingness of students to just accept exams that last until midnight outside of prior to signing up for class scheduled time is shocking to me.
I get what you're saying, but as many have said, some of those tests just take too damn long. If you try to fit a mulit-hour test into a MWF timeslot you're going to disrupt the next class and the next class is going to disrupt the test.
I agree with you that most people are sensible and most things can be worked out through discussion. Unfortunately, some people and situations are not so flexible. A proposal deadline is not going to be extended because someone has the flu. Milestone project dates cannot be missed because of injury, illness, or family issues. Most problems like this are at the corporate level, however they are still real issues. At the end of the day we all need to try to be as flexible and understanding as we can, but unfortunately not every situation can be negotiated to a favorable outcome.
It also depends on the job and company for some of it. One of my employees told me his Aunt died in Waco and he would like to go to the funeral. I told him go, family comes first and we will cover. That is how employment should be, at least to me.
I think this is somewhere where students should be using their collective power. When a school schedules a class that is the class time. Unless this other exam times are listed on the class information prior to signing up for the class it's in my view a breach of contract with me. You are advertising a class for X time I sign up with the knowledge that I will be in class X Times. A professor unable or unwilling to make their tests fot that time is violating that contract.
that's cute. The problem is...it's not a problem for 90% of the people in the classes. Maybe a minor inconvenience, but not really a problem. Kind of hard to have collective bargaining when most of your cohorts don't care.
"You advertised a class for X time but the professor assigned homework that can't be completed during X time. This is a breach of contract."
See how ridiculous that sounds? Most classes are going to require some degree of time and effort outside of the classroom hours. Whether that's homework on a regular basis or an exam a couple time a year, that's pretty much universally accepted and expected.
Except homework, papers etc are all work not expected to be done in class. The exam is expected to be done in class at a set time. You give me one I can do on my own schedule on the computer or printed out then it's on me to find time. But to set class for a different time than as listed in the course catalog changes my prior expectations of the class.
HF, you pick the oddest hills to die on...
Idk, I kind of agree with him.
When I think something is unjust or wrong I take a firm stance. Most things I let go in everyday life. But when something actually gets to me it gets to me. Coming.m between me and my family time because a professor can't be bothered to change his mid terms around bothers me.
So who wins if your free time conflicts with his family time? Common exams are a necessity for certain classes. I honestly don't see any way around it.
Shorter exams, exams broken up into multiple class days, listing the exam days on the course catalogue so you know prior to semester starting this are also "class days". There solved.
Some exams just can't be shorter so that's not an option.
Can't have multiple sessions of the same test unless you want some major cheating to occur.
I don't think they publish test days in the course catalog but I do seem to remember them being in my syllabus on day one of class.
We are talking about 1, 2, or 3 midterm tests depending on the class. I find it somewhat ironic that you are demanding flexibility from the institution but clearly are willing to provide none.
On a side note, group projects are 100x more inconvenient that common exams.
You break the exam into part 1 and part 2. Part 1 is given on Monday part 2 Wednesday. If you have multiple class sections that need the exam you either give multiple exams or have a good honor system.
Flexibility is staying after class or showing up a few minutes early. Making up work or missing a class when the professor is sick, moving due dates because of weather etc. it's not adding 3-4 hours of class time to a week.
But it's only wrong for you. And that's the main point. I get that you don't like it but others, including myself, like exams spread across the day and night. And the notion that all exams fit in the same (typically) hour long class time is a fallacy as many exams take longer time. So if two class happen to have an exam the same day and you have them concurrently and the first one is a 2 hour exam how do you even make it to your second one?
The exam schedule is created at start of semester. If you needed a change for yourself and the professor tried to accommodate then every other student would also have to accommodate. Exam schedules are made in advance for preparedness. And then your on the slippery slope? where does it end? everyone has their own feelings of what is unjust. how does the professor accommodate for everyone?
End of term exams yes. But mid or during semester tests? I've never seen test of mid term dates listed in course catalog. Just end of year exam week schedules.
Are exact times and dates for final exams posted during enrollment?
Yes
Who says? You are imposing your preconceived expectations on the situation.
Also it's ludicrous that no one experiencing this situation was really complaining (and many have defended the practice) but someone who has never experienced it is gravely offended by the concept.
Leave it to millennials.... wait.
My P Chem tests used to be 9:00PM-12:00AM. Our professor brought in bags of candy and went through everyone's calculators to make sure they weren't cheating.
wow, flashes of Intermediate Accounting I just came to me at the mention of Prof Lacoste
The answer is always C. Ace the exam and still make the practice.
Anyone else have dreams that they miss an exam and then can't graduate college only to wake up suddenly and realize they graduated ten years ago?
Yes, many times, and also dreamt that I never really finished my MBA because of one class I had forgotten to take. I finally framed both of my VT diploma's and hung them on the wall in my house, and the dreams went away.
I still have this dream at least a few times a year. I wake up in a panic and have to remind myself that I did indeed graduate. Most of the time I dream that there was a class I never signed up for or one that I was enrolled in that I never went to. It's amazing the sheer panic that ensues before I realize that not only was it a dream, but I wish I could go back in my dream and go to the Hokie House one more time as an undergrad.
Holy hell, this. It's always a random ass english or bio class. I woke up in a sweat in college one time thinking I legitimately signed up for a biology class and had forgotten about it about 3/4 of the way thru the semester. Took me about 5mins to convince myself I hadn't.
That's exactly it! The damn class I signed up for but forgot about until the end of the semester.
And, I graduated in 1979...
Wow I thought that was only me. The funny thing is my dreams are always about being back in undergrad, not back working on my masters. It usually takes me a good minute or two after I wake up to truly convince myself that I have been done with school for quite some time now.
Just before finals during my last semester I had a dream that I somehow had forgotten to attend an entire class all semester long.
I have had the same dream, more than once, including some more than a few decades after graduating.
I'm convinced these "alarm" dreams are common, and I think its a way for the brain to prioritize important tasks.
Taking a test, signing up for classes, getting dressed, waking up on time for an event, picking up the kids; these kinds of small nightmares are common.
I really liked the post about framing diplomas; something like that might provide the brain with visual proof to stop nightmares. Having several alarms set might stop dreams about waking up late.
My personal one goes back to being a paperboy; up to 10 years later I would wake up and stress if I delivered my route that morning, or wonder for a few moments if I was still a paperboy or not.
I finally graduated in '75 and still have the dreams. I always have a final exam to take in a class I blew off and never once attended. To make it worse, since I've never been there, I can't find the classroom. That and a few variations of that theme are the dreams I've had most often in my adult life.
Glad to hear I'm not the only one having all of these dreams. My dad, who graduated in the early 80s says he still has dreams he didn't get his senior design project turned in on time.
The dream I have is that I had a class I just never went to and ended up not passing of course. I did have a required Communications class called The Rhetorical Tradition which was the biggest waste of time for a college course. The professor, Dr. Waggenspack, was awful and I skipped as many classes as possible to just skate by with a C during senior year and graduate. I guess my anxiety from potentially having her fail me still rears its ugly head in my dreams.
I'm going to try and go to it depending on how the homework situation is.
I think being an informant for TKP is alot more important than any kind of "homework" you have. (Finishing a chapter to your Star Wars Fan fiction novel is not homework Kevin!!)
Gosh darn it, I am full hype mode.
You know what you're right. I guess my fan fiction can wait till next week.....
Should you decide to report back to the rest of the community, definitely start a new thread.
Still have my 04 student ID. Think it will work?
Based off your pic, yes.
I mean... of course I'm a student. I have a shirt that proves it.
depends on what you want it to do
someone go facebook or IG live and leave your name on here so we can all watch.
And then their phone will die within 10 minutes because cellular reception is trash in Lane Stadium
only when there is 60k in it. when its not so crowded it seems to have pretty good reception.
yep. It's not a reception issue, it's a bandwidth issue. Think of it this way. You can go 100 mph on 495 around DC...if no one's on it. Sure, normally it's a parking lot, but that doesn't make it a logging road up brush mountain either.
I mean with the number of cops on that road at any hour I would not recommend hitting 100...
I found it to suck last year during the fan appreciation event. It's something teams at all levels are having to look at, fan experience which cell phone use plays a large part in nowadays.
It does not help being in a concrete structure either. It is not the most permeable of materials.
Given the extreme Fu secrecy this spring, if some student tried to live stream the scrimmage, I imagine the last thing we see being a scowling Hilgart and muffled screams before the feed suddenly cuts out.
They could just have Sam Rogers monitor the stands, everyone will act right.
Student turnout is awful.
Pretty quick turnaround from the announcement to the practice wasn't it? I only heard about this this afternoon.
Let's just Photoshop some crowd in there. Maybe even a man on a horse.
At least four days ago on the social media accounts.
Still more fans than the UVA spring Zima festival.
I mean, you suck all the energy out of spring practice and things like this may happen.
Agreed. Least engaged I've been with spring football in a long time. Out of sight, out of mind.
this. didn't even know it was Spring Game this weekend. I mean there is zero chance of me attending but previous years there was always a big buzz going on during Spring time. Lots of clips of practice and scrimmage. Interviews. etc.
hope we have a decent turn out for the weekend.
They have a bunch of work to do if they want a great environment for recruits on Saturday.
I have a bad feeling about the crowd size Saturday.
Fuente MUST change his thinking on Spring access. Fall could probably be tight with less downside. But Spring being dead is not good for the program as a whole.
One note is that it's pretty chilly in Blacksburg right now, and it will be over 70 degrees for the Spring game.
maybe invite vanilla ice and salt n pepa oh wait.... FSU already has them booked for their spring game this weekend
Well, it is Tots Tuesday. Karaoke time!
Of course it looks like it from that angle. Show the student section. Probably paper airplanes flying everywhere.
Only the West Stands were open for this practice.
Dope little video of the team/fan interaction after the appreciation practice. Despite the weather, looked like a good number of kids came out.
the girl on the right taking the picture with JJ...she's the famous winker from the 2016 ACCCG, right? Didn't someone say that's JJ's girl?
Honestly not sure what you guys expected. I don't think this is the program's fault for promoting it at all or anything, you're just never going to get college kids to go to a spring practice like this unless they're like the top 1% of absolute diehard football fans. Only reason kids even show up for the Spring Game is because it's an excuse to tailgate.
I'm close to that 1% (been to over 100 VT football games, care way too much) and even I did not go...I did heavily consider it though
The kids tailgating most likely are not going to the game. I always found that the spring game tailgates were more rowdy and more of a drunk fest than actual football games.
I went to the open practice in 2016, and the turnout was much better than this.
I was there, although I showed up a little late, so I might've missed some stuff in the beginning. There was a lot going on so I'm sure I missed a lot.
1. I think French was right about how the QB reps are being split up, seemed about 70/30 Josh and Willis with the ones, and Hendon Hooker taking almost all reps with the twos. One thing that jumped out at me was Ryan Willis' arm talent. He was definitely the most impressive QB throwing the ball.
2. To be honest I didn't watch much of either line, though I do remember Trevon getting at least one "sack".
3. Devon Hunter made several good plays throughout the practice, and I'm pretty sure he was at whip the whole time. Didn't really pay attention to who was at free safety.
4. I didn't notice any unexpected injured players.
I believe it was announced after the practice somewhere on twitter that Adonis Alexander was out injured.
Sounds like he has an injured sense of importance.
Hard to glean much from an open spring practice like this, but I did come away impressed with Willis's arm. He has a really pretty throw. Hooker still looked a little young out there. There were a few freshman like mistakes like a botched snap, but I don't know how much of that is just because he was with the 3rd string players. The ball was blown dead fast, but the running backs looked a bit more comfortable seeing holes. McClease and Holston were running with Fox getting some reps.
Interesting to see two reports of Willis slinging it. Thanks for the feedback!
He had a pretty play fake that worked his TE open in the end zone tonight.