Friday News Dump Re: Josh Jackson Status: 🤷

Figured if bad news were to come, Friday afternoon would be the opportune time to release it.

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Don't we already have a couple dozen threads covering this?

I love a good nap. Sometimes that's all that's getting me out of bed in the morning.

The other one is a mayo GIF thread. There's at least an inkling of new information in the OP here.

I'm literally dying at my desk due to you having to use the term "Mayo gif thread". You must be so proud of us.

I love a good nap. Sometimes that's all that's getting me out of bed in the morning.

Except the new information is there is no new information.

If you play it, they will win.

"How the ass pocket will be used, I do not know. Alls I know is, the ass pocket will be used." -The BoD

The new information is "not today, after all"

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

and risk burying this news in the middle of The Great Mayonnaise Debate? besides, what's one more thread in the offseason?

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

The bad gifs will continue until there is actual news, and as long as people keep creating new threads.

A good support staff wouldn't have let the other thread devolve into a Mayo Gif-fest

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

Well, or good fans, if we're honest.

Yeah, that's not right. I mean, good fans have to do something to occupy their time while waiting anticipating horrible news.

Like kill the pain with bad gifs.

We are all good fans, just bored AF on Friday with nothing to talk about.

What's
Important
Now

Work days when there is no new news on TKP/VT Football are scientifically longer than work days where we get news.

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I got this.

"Exit light..."

Do ya? Cause that other thread was...

Sometimes you just gotta steer into the skid. That thread is pure gold.

"Exit light..."

It was pure Duke's, right up until that inferior stuff started to infiltrate...

Always sounds like good advice, until you're in a Mustang...

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

Also, until you don't take the advice to take the foot off the gas and steer into the skid.

"Yes I am going to have favorites. My favorites are high production and low maintenance players, coaches, and staff." - JMFF

Mayo is the best condiment, with honey mustard and bbq sauce trailing closely.

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Biggest news to come out of this Josh Jackson debacle so far is that French loves mayo, but doesn't like cheese.

I love a good nap. Sometimes that's all that's getting me out of bed in the morning.

I maintain that French has the freshest football takes around and worst food tastes.

Step aside Will Smith

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I'm with ya, French. No cheese. Never cheese.

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Aaaaaaand French's food takes continue their 0-for-forever streak. UVa football is beginning to get jealous of your remarkable consistency, old buddy.

“You got one guy going boom, one guy going whack, and one guy not getting in the endzone.”
― John Madden (describing VT's offense?)

#teamranch

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I don't like ranch.

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You're just all over the map arent you?

I love a good nap. Sometimes that's all that's getting me out of bed in the morning.

French dressing then?

I do like french, honey mustard, balsamic, poppyseed, and thousand island. I can't stand Italian (cheese) and ranch. Although there are some varieties of buttermilk ranch that come on a fried chicken sandwich that I have found to be pleasing.

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You like mayo but hate cheese?

I.... I have no words...

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Me: clearly we've gotten the last of French's bad food takes.

French:

This is going to be great for the ACC.

The other thread was the mayo thread though.

Yes he definitely made a mistake. This thread should have been about a different condiment.

I love a good nap. Sometimes that's all that's getting me out of bed in the morning.

Relish... relish is disgusting

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

My bad. Horseradish anyone?

was

all threads are mayo threads!

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

French, sometimes you are just so wrong.

Reel men fish on Wednesdays

Dijon mustard. Fight me.

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

New off-season article proposal: "Bad Food Takes with French"

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Bow tie pasta, Hormel chunky chili, add liberal amounts of honey BBQ sauce (Sweet baby Rays) and walls, Poor Man's Sghetti

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Sounds like what the dirty ass contractors leave in the toilet at work

I love a good nap. Sometimes that's all that's getting me out of bed in the morning.

I feel the need to point out that this is the first time I find myself nodding along with a french culinary post.

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New Sigline: lol it's football season.

Poor Man'sPrison Sghetti

Spaghetti is already cheap and that sounds absolutely horrendous, we'll go with Prison Spaghetti.

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Another French recipe

Heat Campbell's New England Clam Chowder
Add liberal amounts of black pepper
Boil egg noodles
Add imitation crab meat to clam chowder
Cover the egg noodles in the chowder
Add a side of peas.

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"Seafood" Stroganoff. This actually doesn't sound awful, also doesn't sound good.

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It sounds like something you eat off of a TV tray with a lukewarm PBR.

For the most part, I just go to quick serve Mediterranean places like Roti.

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I also apply liberal amounts of black pepper to the canned New England Clam Chowder. Really what you have described is known as casserole. Noodles, condensed soup, and canned meat. Casserole.

Plan for the worst and hope for the best, not the other way around.

I don't use the canned crab. I get the imitation crab meat in the seafood freezer.

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Just needs some cheese.

Yuck.

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Mayo is clearly far below salt and even pepper on the condiment hierarchy.

Try smoking meat using mayo. Salt and pepper are both spices and condiments.

This mayo you speak of is a single use tool.

This is going to be great for the ACC.


Salt and pepper ain't condiments, man.

I do, however, agree that they are the only spices that need be applied to piece of smoker-bound meat.

(Leg for "try smoking meat with mayo" though. That is... yeah, I don't know what that is. Hahaaaaha)

the numbers don’t lie and they spell disaster

Clearly you have not discovered mayo as an awesome substitute for oil when grilling.

Here's another good one: try a smear of mayo as a substitute for butter on a grilled cheese. Unparalleled crispy-ness. Butter is now my backup plan for GCs.

Also, mayo is the rare old-school life hack that works: I'll take mayo over aloe vera to soothe a burn every single time. (Unless I'm going out in public, that is.)

the numbers don’t lie and they spell disaster

Ranch my dude

Free Hugh

you guys are all wrong, hot sauce is the best condiment

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I love a good nap. Sometimes that's all that's getting me out of bed in the morning.

Any combo of mango salsa, pork, rice, and black beans is a winning combo.

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What about on a salad? Hotdog?those cut up veggie trays?

Is someone going to downvote this one too?

Also how long does it take you to walk home so we can get the fortnite on?

Wet stuff on the red stuff.

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dude check your texts

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

Hot sauce on a salad? Sounds delicious.

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

actually, the jalapeno dressing on the Ballast Point House salad has become my #1 dressing.

i like to imagine a world where hokie fireman puts ketchup on his salad

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Ranch and hot sauce are equal.

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SUBTOPIC:

☝️This is the best Simpsons episode ever.

the numbers don’t lie and they spell disaster

do you know the episode name? I want to watch it...

"Everyone has a plan 'till they get punched in the mouth."

Lisa the vegetarian S7 E5

+1

Homer at the bat and Monorail are my two favorite

Close but not quite. This one was the best, IMHO.

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Ever had a Taco Salad with hot sauce and sour cream for dressing? Don't knock it til you try it.

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You haven't put other salad dressings on a Taco Salad have you??

I love a good nap. Sometimes that's all that's getting me out of bed in the morning.

Chipotle Ranch

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

Oh yeah. Taco salad with ranch mixed up with chipotle Tabasco is delicious. Now I'm hungry

Warning: this post occasionally contains strong language (which may be unsuitable for children), unusual humor (which may be unsuitable for adults), and advanced mathematics (which may be unsuitable for liberal-arts majors)..

#protip:

Chipotle Tabasco is the best Tabasco. By a wide margin.

the numbers don’t lie and they spell disaster

That's acceptable. But if vinaigrettes(and i love a good vinaigrette) start going on taco salads then there is an issue.

I love a good nap. Sometimes that's all that's getting me out of bed in the morning.

I think most hot sauces are vinegar based

Free Hugh

Yes, I have but hot sauce and sour cream is my preference.

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Don't give up on your dreams.

This hot sauce is great if you haven't tried it. Not the hottest but delicious. It is like the audi of pure cayenne hot sauce.

I realized recently I go to Firehouse Subs more for their hot sauce selection than there subs. You know what goes good on a sandwich with mayo...hot sause.

Image result for ring of fire hot sauce

This Sauce is good, and don't let the name fool you, it has heat, but it is not too hot, but a well blended, tasty hot sauce.

my go to sauce at firehouse:

Don't know why it is but I hate that sauce on everything except for the brisket sub. On the brisket sub, it's heavenly.

I didn't know Nick was a fireman

Cody Journell would say the best condiment is Pepper Spray

This is a good hot sauce, flavorful without all the unnecessary heat.

They've started making a bunch of different flavors. I really like the Garlic one.

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chili lime!

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Also very good.

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Original and chipotle are my go to's.

All Maroon, all the time!

That stuff's great, but nothing beats El Yucateco Salsa Picante (the green one) for a combination of delicious and cheap.

sorry, red rules and green drools (when it comes to Yucateca)

That seems to be a big deal out in NoDak

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Classic, I kid you not, I use this in place of bbq sause with pork and brisket sometimes ( I am not a big sweets person). This with sliced onions and pickles on the side make a good bbq bite.

A little of this on watermelon cubes mixed with feta.

Really. One of my favorite summer salads. I had it with dinner tonight.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

If your not on Virginia's own Speedys - I suggest you get on board.

I've taken to putting this on everything.

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It may not be sauce, but it's still awesome.

I love Tony Chachere's. It's like Lawry's angry little brother.

"I liked you guys a lot better when everybody told you you were terrible." -Justin Fuente

Yeah, I use it on tons of things. In marinades, as a spicy mayo, on eggs, fries, etc. Heck I'm pretty sure I've used it to simply sprinkle on popcorn and peanuts.

That's a go-to at my house.

I put that shit on pretty much everything. It makes for a great dry rub on steaks and burgers

"When I was growing up, Virginia Tech was a school that was kicking ass and taking names, and it's time we get back to that" - James Franklin

If you want some great croutons, drizzle cubed french bread with olive oil, toss with that seasoning, and crisp up in oven.

Warning: addictive.

My favorite dry rub for burgers, chicken, when I don't have time to make my own. Try it on your burger before you put it on the grill.

This, this stuff is that dam truth. So is Slap Ya Mama.

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Mmm sprinkle a little a lot of TCs on some grilled corn on the cob or roasted red potatoes and it is a thing of beauty.

hot sauce on popcorn...give it a try

1-0 every week

speaking of hot sauce, anyone else a fan of HotOne's Interviews on youtube?

Yes!

Let's Go

HOKIES

I binged a ton when I first discovered them! But they kinda got repetitive and his interview style is so formulaic. Good show though, 7/10 would recommend.

I guess most every interviewer is formulaic and they know that, so the hot sauce is used as an intervention to get something real out of people that have been trained to be guarded. You could skip up to hot sauce 6 if that's all one wanted though

Really isnt just i really went hard and watched a shit ton in like 2 days and i over did it. Its a great show for sure.

Hot sauce is garbage.

Y'all are forgetting the best condiment...

I don't know what a Hokie is, but God is one of them!

I am pretty sure that is more of a marinade than a sauce...

Plan for the worst and hope for the best, not the other way around.

Hot sauce (Louisiana style) mixed with Tartar sauce.

Trying to start a thread on TKP recently

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I love a good nap. Sometimes that's all that's getting me out of bed in the morning.

Starts with a non-topic.

Blows up from there.

Sullies everyone.

Somewhat entertaining.

Yes, checks out.

I just got home from work, poured a bourbon, and started reading this thread. I'm laughing hysterically and the wife is staring at me asking what's so funny. I tried to explain only to crack up more. Now I'm just getting looks of disapproval.

Happy weekend you crazy bastards

Edit: And if you think mayo is better than cheese you're a sick fuck.

Edit: And if you think mayo is better than cheese you're a sick fuck.

THANK YOU

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

Just put a "hi I'm a sick fuck" name badge on.

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At least you own it 😄

Team "Cheese is gross"

We gotta stick together.

Pizza really kills your basic premise.

Pizza is great, without cheese.

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Bro that isn't pizza. Thats an open faced sandwich.

I love a good nap. Sometimes that's all that's getting me out of bed in the morning.

Open faced sandwiches are also delicious.

An underrated weird sandwhich. Roast beef, shredded carrots, and mayo on a sub roll. Money.

Also, if you have to deal with bad hotel breakfasts, put some cantaloupe and bacon on a bagel. Energy all morning.

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What even are you?

Free Hugh

While it's not 'technically' a pizza, a good tomato pie kicks pizza's ass every time. French does get partial credit on this one.

If you're ever in Philly, check this out!

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My wife makes a killer tomato pie, and at its best, it at least rivals a really good pizza, but hate to break it to you, I've had tomato pie made by at least a dozen different folks in my life, and every damn one of them had cheese in it.

Reel men fish on Wednesdays

Exactly. Pizza, by definition, has cheese. Look it up. Dough, sauce, cheese baked together, OTHER ingredients optional. Maybe more of a flat bread than an open faced sandwich, depending on what you put on it, but not pizza.

Sometimes we live no particular way but our own

Pizza is great, without cheese.

That actually makes sense when you don't think about it.

Makes about as much sense as a hamburger without meat.

It's a poor substitute for the real thing.

I had a girlfriend once who would buy a hamburger, take off the hamburger, and substitute in french fries to make her burger "vegetarian". She was a cutie, but that was ridiculous.

Cutie can make up for a bunch of ridiculous.

Cute and crazy in the sack can make up for all sorts of ridiculous.

Sigh.

Ok ill cave and and admit i eat pizza. Along as its light cheese. College broke me and i stsrted eating it then. But other than pizza i dont eat any cheese. Skeeves me out.

Downvoted for cheese consumption

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I guess I'll just find out what happened to Josh Jackson when he either does or doesn't take the field for Game 1

If that happens, we're going to burn a lot of senseless electrons in the mean time.

My personal favorite condiment

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Crystals hot sauce is quite a treat as well

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Unpopular opinion time. I think a girl dumped me once over this. Y'all can down vote me, but I'm about to speak the dam troof. It's honey mustard, BBQ, and ranch. I have never understood people's boner for this sauce.

I love a good nap. Sometimes that's all that's getting me out of bed in the morning.

It's good nothing special, I'd rather mix their hot sauce and ranch.

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Their Polynesian sauce is the bomb.com

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I don't trust you.

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Did you try it this morning when you went there?

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On chicken minis? No.

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Coward

Ask me no questions, and I'll tell you no lies

You guys really want to melt your face and skull? Try some of this.

It's outrageously hot. And I love the hottest I'd hot. The bullet keychain is full of pure capsacian oil if you want to be an idiot. One or two drops of this hot sauce In a vat of chili will make it too hot for the average person.

I love a good nap. Sometimes that's all that's getting me out of bed in the morning.

That looks like a way to ruin good food or your evening.

...and the next morning.

We put the K in Kwality

I can handle hot stuff, but I can't stand the taste of pepper extract. I like the taste of different peppers.

Well the actual sauce is not bad if used in extreme moderation. The little capsacian bullet I have never opened.

I love a good nap. Sometimes that's all that's getting me out of bed in the morning.

I've tried this. I like the new name.

They were calling it The Worst Decision Of Your Life but they weren't moving any units.

the numbers don’t lie and they spell disaster

Oooooo yeah I only sometimes fux with this

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I was told that there aren't enough students from the honor council in town to hold trial due to summer break. Heard it's JJ and another starter in question.

Get outta here with your actual contribution to the so called "topic" of this thread

So what happens then? This gets dragged out all the way until classes resume?

Wth does this have to do with mayonnaise? Keep it on topic!

Edited: But pertinent to the post, I do not think it is fair that a student body with such vast authority can delay a hearing for this long simply for not having enough members present during summer sessions.

As a member of the VT faculty, let me attempt to defend the students and the Honor Council here. Students serve on the Honor Council on a volunteer basis, so if they are not attending summer classes, they won't be available. They're not derelict, they're not rogue. The policies, procedures, and training for service are all well documented. The Honor Council is also overseen by members of the faculty, so this is not just some kangaroo court with students doing whatever they want.

"Exit light..."

Fair enough. I just think any student body which has the authority to levy the ultimate academic penalty of expulsion should be able to have enough members to meet and hold a vote in a swift manner. "Oh sorry I'm on summer break at the beach, get back to you later" just doesn't seem like a good excuse for a situation this severe. I'm sure it is logistically difficult, but still.

They should have two times each summer where they come back to review casss from the spring semester or summer session.

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Thing is, there's probably not that many cases over the summer to justify having to develop such a plan.

Any kid accused of end of semester cheating (project, term paper, final exam) would all fall in this timing. Making a kid (not just FB players, but any student) wait all summer to find out their fate, is not just cruel, but completely unjustifiable. If they are kicked out they need to make other arrangement for school. Heck if they live off campus, they have to make financial commitments, that cannot be withdrawn/reimbursed.

I understand that the committees are volunteer positions, but there has to be a way to get these things resolved in a timely fashion that doesn't mean wait until Fall semester starts.

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I'm on board with that. I'm just wondering how many cases there are right now, or during any summer. And how many cases that don't work themselves out by the student just deciding to quit or transfer before dealing with judgement.

Even a single case held over from spring deserves resolution. Plus aren't there several summer secessions? Even in high school as the Honor Court Captain I was told if the need came up from summer classes I would be required to call the court to secession. Now granted that was high school so farthest away a student came to school was just over an hour away but we still had summer jobs, family plans etc.

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Secession?

South gonna do it again?

Leonard. Duh.

Depends on who you ask. I'd say no myself

THE SOUTH WILL FAIL AGAIN!!

/s

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This^^^ Great post.

Not sure anyone went that far. And this situation aside, "justice systems" of whatever flavor inside academic systems, have not proven to be the exemplars of the rule of law in the sense of presumption of innocence, burden of proof, rights to confront accusers, etc.

And very little is known about VT's Honor Council system. Even the school's website gives what I'd call murky details. And who the heck knows about the consistency of sanctions? Not me.

I suspect it's the lack of clarity that gets most people making assumptions.

Accusing the Honor Council members as being "jackasses" and "rogue" upset me. I know members of the Council and these descriptions are unwarranted and offensive to me. I have tried to avoid getting into these discussions but not when the narrative goes so far off course that there are nasty things being said. Most of the posters on this board know precisely squat about the proceedings of the Honor Council. Some do, some have been personally affected. Everyone needs to keep their emotions in check so I'm trying to offer some counter-discussion here.

rule of law in the sense of presumption of innocence, burden of proof, rights to confront accusers, etc.

None of this exists within school policy. This is not a court of law. Most people start having issues when they conflate what they're entitled to in a court vs. what happens in a VT proceeding.

In this case, a student can present exonerating evidence and explanations of their actions, as well as statements made by witness of the accused's choosing. They are not presumed innocent or guilty until a final decision is made. From discussions amongst faculty, the anecdote is that about 90% of Honor Council proceedings result in no discipline. When sanctions are issued, it's because it's an open-and-shut case. I won't argue specifics of any case because I have never been involved, but that's what I'm told from colleagues. No faculty member that I have spoken to has ever liked the thought of taking a matter to the Honor Council because they appreciate the seriousness of it and understand students are often confused about what constitutes academic misconduct. Most issues are resolved between the faculty member and the student when a potential issue is identified.

No one will ever get clarity because a student's academic records are protected by federal law. If they want to speak out, they can, but we'll never get a full picture, nor should we, given existing privacy statutes.

"Exit light..."

I apologize and agree some of my comments were unwarranted. At the end of the day I'm sure the council and it's members are following proper procedure and guidelines and handling these cases appropriately. My comments were impulsive and a little emotionally charged because of past student conduct/honor decisions against some of our players that seemed overly harsh and unwarranted.

Additionally, I still stand by my main point that I think not even having a quorum to convene in an honor court hearing just because it's summer session is hard to believe with a University the size of VT and year-round courses. It's a delay in swift justice that I believe is inherently unfair for really no other good reason than "I'm out of town." As HF suggested, maybe it should be a requirement of anyone sitting on the council to meet at least twice during the summer session to hear cases.

Again I apologize and will remove the unnecessary banter and name calling. I have nothing personal against anyone and shouldn't resort to that.

While I understand all of your points, you have to admit that it's not justifiable to make a kid wait all summer to find out their fate.

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Don't give up on your dreams.

Had that been said? I mean we have known about this for what 2 weeks? I don't see too much of a timeline problem of this is resolved in the next week or so.

"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it." - K

Given that we don't know any of the details, timelines, or facts, it seems prudent not to criticize the process.

...this is not just some kangaroo court with students doing whatever they want.

As opposed to the other student court.

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Hardee's honey mustard sauce is fantastic. They should bottle it and sell it.

Where my fellow Brits at?

I get yeast by the barrel at my place. Not exaggerating.
I'll give you all you want.

Kill it, add salt, done.

This is going to be great for the ACC.

So... how much harvesting does chaos do? Any?

I feel like yeast is my biggest cost that I haven't cut yet. But I am not harvesting any for reuse.

It must be the Limey in me, that finds HP Sauce so dammed good

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The American is me immediately thought "HP talking about across the pond? Must mean this stuff..."

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Shakin' the hot sauce, mayo, condiment debate like...

oh. the condiment debate is spreading, I see.

It does take some work to ketchup on all the threads.

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Mayonnaise a lot of people in here with weird food preferences.

Raising Cane's dipping sauce

That is by far the best chicken and fry sauce.

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why is this down voted??!!

Someone, cough, is going around downvoting anything I post now. Even going back and finding old posts. It is what it is, I've got plenty.

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Why has no one brought up Apple butter yet? The only reason you should ever go into west Virginia on your own.

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I first tried apple butter at homeplace. Was so good.

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Apple butter is amazing. But, I consider a biscuit with apple butter a dessert of the highest caliber. On par with pie.

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I wholeheartedly agree with French on something culinary related. What's happening?

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You can get great apple butter in Virginia. Don't have to go to WVA. I made it as a kid with my Grandparents. Best stuff ever.

If you're ever between Bloomington and Indianapolis Indiana The Nashville House has spectacular Yeast rolls and Apple butter.

The Amish make great apple butter. No reason for me to leave PA.

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Not really in the great condiment debate but I happened to have just passed across several continents and oddly found myself connecting through Charlotte, NC of all places just in time for dinner before my next flight. It was there that I had the utmost pleasure in devouring some Bojangles. It was the first time I had eaten it in over 15 years... Damn it was good.

Since we're talking condiments and sauces, can I ask why every single condiment/sauce doesn't come in a packet like this? And furthermore, why do most fast food restrauants still insist on the old school ketchup packets when these things of beauty exist?

Because too many people can't figure out how to follow the opening instructions printed on the packaging?

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I imagine that style of packaging is more expensive both for materials and manufacturing. The "classic" type is easy:

I'm pretty sure the machine uses vibration to "weld" the plastic together.

I love the idea of these packets, but every time I've ever used one with the intention of squeezing it out, it ends up being no more or less convenient than the packets. Great idea, but to me, meh in practice (unless you're using it to dip, in which case, best way to do it).

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I should have clarified.

For dipping purposes, these are far superior. Anyone who disagrees has not tried to eat french fries in a car

The solution is simple. Stop going to places with subpar french fries that require dipping into red fructose corn syrup.

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The best fry is made better with ketchup.

Same with Mac and cheese

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The best fry is made better with ketchupmayonnaise.

If you disagree, then you must never have visited Belgium, where french fries were created. Those folks know a little something about the french fry (called pommes frites there). They also know a little something about mayo. They have the best french fries in the world. I promise.

Also, good mac and cheese doesn't need ketchup, which is the most overrated of all the condiments.

Whoa whoa whoa....we dont need multiple people on here with french-like takes on food

Fried potatoes were invented in Spain or France were the potato first came from the "New World".

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I hate to say this, but a) your sentence makes no sense, and b) you're wrong anyway.

Regardless of the origins, though, the best Belgian fries (double fried) are pretty awesome.

The potato was brought from Columbia area of South America by the Spanish and first grown in Europe in Spain, Italy and France. While Parts of Belgium were under Spanish control the notion that poor peasants would use expensive cooking oil to fry potatoes is hard to believe. It also wouldnt explain how French Fries were so popular on the street of Paris so early in the 18th century.

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Paris is only 200 miles from Brussels, so it's likely they both had french fries in the early 18th century. There were plenty of rich people in Belgium. I've really got no dog in the fight, so let's just say it's open to debate.

But I did live near Namur for a while, and they know how to cook a french fry. There are street stands throughout Belgium that sell large paper cones with some very edible fries in them. Soft and light on the inside, crunchy on the outside. And they're tasty with a beer.

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Never been to Belgium, but the Germans make a good pommes frites as well, but they're like McD's, smushed up, seasoned, then extruded into the hot oil directly from a grinder looking affair. Crispy and golden on the outside and creamy good on the inside. As for the mayo, no, no, a thousand times NO!!!!! A good pub malt vinegar is about the only thing except ketchup that is even remotely acceptable on fries, and dat's da dam trute, s'hep me Baby Jesus.
They also sell popcorn on the street over there and you have to be careful when you buy it. Red twisty tie has sugar on the corn, not caramel, just sugar, and the blue twisty tie means there is salt on your corn, as it is properly served in any civilized country.
Yes, the Amish make a great kettle corn, but the Deutsch version just has plain sugar from a shaker. Yuk.

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Gravy like from what Burger is good on fries also. There are also things like ranch or sour cream for the really big potato wedge sized fries or cheese dip or Raising Canes sauce.

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Gravy isn't a condiment in my book, but it pretty much goes with anything I think it might, and yes, fries are very good with gravy on them, especially when accompanying a nice liver and onion platter, also smothered in gravy.

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You are approaching Poutine, just missing the curds... if ever in Montreal, GIVE THESE A TRY!!!!

Y'know, I was in Canada for three weeks last fall and never tried poutine. I know I should have because it sounded good, but it was on a ferry that I had the best chance, and I demurred out of caution. I swear I will go to Montreal, and when I do, I will eat some poutine at the finest poutinery I can find.

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I lived in both Belgium and Germany for multiple years. They both have good fries.

I'd still give the nod to Belgium for their regular fries, which can be a meal on their own.

Special mention for European style croquettes, which are their version of tater tots, but they use mashed potatoes with a crispy exterior. Outstanding.

This explains why my wife's German girlfriend loves pringles.

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Have been to Belgium quite a few times and have eaten versions of pommes frites all over Europe. I'm gonna speak the dam truth, Pommes frites are just ok. Outside texture is good but inside is bland, which is why it's served with mayo. Belgium makes them well but they are nowhere near the pinnacle of french fry-dom.

Have had MUCH better fries in gastro pubs and BBQ joints throughout Texas and southwest. There's was a place in El Paso that served them with a green chiles pico, Oaxacan cheese with a Southwest spice blend on golden fried goodness. Pommes frites is the neglected red headed stepchild to those.

Ketchup is the worst condiment, slightly below tarter sauce. Every other condiment is better on a fry than ketchup.
Ketchup is mass produced BBQ sauce that took such a bad turn they just gave up making it half way through and bottled it anyway. It only re-deeming quality is that it makes things less dry.

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Honestly though, it's not that hard to tear off 90% of the end of a traditional ketchup packet, and it's big enough to stick a couple fries in. Instead of tearing off a corner, grab super close to one end, tear straight down just slightly, and pull towards the other end.

Not exactly the ideal dipping solution, but it's actually more car-friendly than the plastic tub version. A lot less likely to spill.

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...? A 2019 QB recruit on campus means our R-Soph QB will not be on the team? I'd say that would be more of an indication that our QBs of the future (QP, Hooker) are up in the air since Jackson would probably be gone before Clark's r-fresh year.

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Well we weren't really recruiting a qb before this shook out.

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Did he put mayo or ketchup on his fries?

It's great if he was on campus, but has nothing to do with Josh Jackson. He's in the class of '19.

It does though. We had no plan to take a qb until this jj thing started

I can see it from that perspective, but wouldn't think of it as a confirmation, pending verification of the condiment he used.

Can't say about JJ but Clark is getting attention from a lot of people . He tore it up at the Charlotte camp a few months ago . I don't see us having the sure fire talent at that spot to pass on a very good in state QB . If we can even land him now but nothing I saw from JJ last year gave me a warm fuzzy that he would become a star,I like him but don't love him seemed like he had limited upside . Clark can sling it

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OT: there are rumors on TSL that JJ will be transferring. Take that for what you will.

To UNC?

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Excuse me, this is a condiment thread....

Now finish up them taters; I'm gonna go fondle my sweaters.

Which is why I started it with "OT"

ah yes, the mountain grier tactic. Serve your suspension while sitting out for a transfer.

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I can't decide if that is a good ending or just a confusing one because this whole thing has been run through the mud 10 million times.

Well, the sources don't mention any condiments, so I'm leaning towards confusing.

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