I would say no. One can only hope this continues the process of the only annoying triple option P5 coach being in our division eventually not being in our division one day.
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GT looked so awful today. Losing to them again this year would be an absolute disgrace.
I admire your tenacity of sticking to your point and continuing to bring it up.
"ADMIRE"
No. Next question.
Um...do you like bread?
Who else read this as:
Um...do you breed?
Do you think you would be more effective in fighting 100 yellow jacket-sized Paul Johnsons, or one Paul Johnson-sized yellow jacket?
Do the yellow-jacket sized Paul Johnsons have shrunken or full size chinballs?
Full size, but proportional.
I would like to fight 100 yellow jacket sized Paul Johnsons.
Me too
What's even worse is that Pitt almost let it go too. We should smash both of those teams in the face this year. No excuses.
The gang loses to Georgia Tech
Cue Always Sunny music
There are so many Always Sunny references that make me chuckle, but every time I've tried to watch the show I haven't been amused. Maybe I have just seen the 3 or 4 episodes that aren't funny, but idk.
FTFY
About to speak that truth Always Sunny was NEVER good.
Well duh, TV shows can't be eaten!
I will not downvote you three's opinions, but I do not have respect for them.
What do you all find funny? Not hostile, just honestly curious
Like comic or shows?
Not sure about comics but shows around same time that were funnier : The League, workalcoholics, Most not all of the Office episodes, Community, I also like the roast battle show on right now.
Probably The Big Bang Theory.......
TBoDC - I'm with you. Always Sunny is wonderful.
To me it's like a good sketch show. It has funny moments that are great conversation parts or memes etc but overall the show isn't that great.
First of all, how dare you.
Wade Boggs is very much alive
Shut up Boss Hog
It's not effective but we'll still lose to them.
I don't think so. Our offense is moving the ball better, especially on the ground. Especially with respect to VT our defense is more suited to stopping them this year than last.
Experience isn't as important against GT. It's about discipline and athleticism.
Here is last year's defensive roster vs GT:
Shegog: Whip
Reynolds: Rover
Settle: NT
Motu: MLB
Tr Edmonds: LLB
Te Edmonds: FS
Walker: DT
Hill: DE
Mihota: DE
Stroman: CB
Facyson: CB
This year I anticipate:
Hunter: Whip
Ladler: Rover
SettleWalker: NTAshby: MLB
Rivers: LLB
Deablo: FS
Mihota: DT
Gaines: DE
Hill: DE
Farley: CB
Watts: CB
As bad a Francois played against VT he's a better passer than Marshall. I would not anticipate the HUGE touch down passes over the middle this year. Stopping only one of those results in a VT win last year.
This year we are better overall (minus experience) at ever position but NT.
Edit needed. This year, should be Walker not Settle.
Leg for catching my mistake.
Honestly we could have won last year if we kicked the field goals instead of going for it. Fuente has learned and I think we will start winning against them.
This year we are better overall (minus experience) at ever position but NT.
We send six guys from the defense to the NFL and we're better at 'every position but NT'?
Can't wait to see this defense in two years.
I enjoy your optimism, but I watched the Syracuse FSU game. I'm not ready to say we are at that level yet.
If he goes 5-6 for 203 yards and 3 TD's against us I might speak the damn truth.
and I will down vote you for it.
Won't be the 1st time I've faced adversity.
But you'll respect his opinion and down vote it anyway.
As long as you say, "I respect you" first, it's okay to downvote as long as you just tell them you're doing it.
It's in the Geneva convention. Look it up
Yeah ask me in six weeks if their passing game is efficient
Fixed it.
They'll be 4/26 passing and 4/4 passing on 3rd down conversions of 10+ yards.
Well 6/65 is averaging one first down per completion, so...
/s
15 pass attempts is FAR too small a sample size to be drawing any definitive conclusions. Best keep updating every week with running season-long totals too
This is the definitive TKP clickbait. None of us had to open this thread. But we did, and we responded....
And we probably all knew exactly what it would say too
First off, if you want to cherry pick one game's worth of data throughout the year you can support any narrative you want to.
For the triple option, passing the ball works basically like a trick play; it works largely because your opponent isn't expecting it. I didn't watch this game, but if you notice they threw the ball 15 times, which is high for GT. This hints to me that they weren't throwing the ball to catch Pitt off guard, which is ideal for their system. I'm guessing they threw the ball because they were behind and had no choice. GT's passing game only works when you're not expecting it, so of course their passing stats were garbage.
Please post/link me to the non-cherry picked efficient game (s) from Marshall this year. I'll patiently wait. Also, if I posted efficiency from every game he has ever played it would look worse.
Marshall is not a great quarterback and he never will be. He runs and offense that uses the pass as a gimmick play. Sometimes it works, but when you know it's coming it doesn't work too well. Kinda like running a reverse on a team that knows it's coming. GT has beat us the last few years. Last year it was due in part to a few long passes. I hope we beat them this year, but there's no need to obsess over their passing offense efficiency or effectiveness. In the end who cares besides Paul Johnson. Take it easy man. Take it easy. We all dislike GT football and their coach.
You know "efficient" and "effective" are two different things right?
Yep. and 65 yards passing on 15 attempts in a college game is not effective. Neither is an efficiency rating that is 13th in the ACC. Nope, neither particularly effective for a QB. He hasn't really connected on that many broken run play bombs this year either.. those are "effective" I suppose.
Did Marshall run over your dog or jump in front of you at the check out line?
He wasn't effective in this game. There may be other games in the future where GT doesn't have to play most of the game in comeback mode where he could pop off a couple of long, and very effective, touchdown passes. It doesn't come off as petty at all that you're in here putting a spotlight on a bad game like this vindicates your entire argument. You look ridiculous.
Again... I am happy to listen to any counter argument on Taquon Marshall's "effectiveness".. go ahead, make your case. A couple of bombs against VT last year is your argument to my ridiculous argument? Is that what you are going with?
A couple of bombs against VT, or the ones against North Carolina, Miami, Virginia, Duke, and Georgia. Just because Georgia Tech doesn't attempt or complete many passes doesn't mean that those touchdowns weren't effective. As others have stated a pass within Georgia Tech's offense may as well be a trick play. Would you say that a converted halfback pass or double reverse wasn't effective because a team doesn't convert them regularly?
Also let's be clear, I'm not calling your argument ridiculous. I am calling you ridiculous. I'd have been perfectly happy to discuss the merits of Georgia Tech's passing attack with anyone on this board, but you have been hell bent on running this into the ground dishing out snark to everyone who would bother to engage you along the way for nearly a year. I've even defended you when some on here have called you a troll, but you're making it awfully hard for me to keep that position when you keep doing this.
I am simply using passing efficiency stats to argue my point. You call it snark, since you disagree that efficiency is a mark or indication of "good" or "effective". That's fine, but the efficiency stat is widely regarded within football and coaching as THE measure of "good" in terms of QB play. Justin Fuente says it is one of his most important stats, etc. So what started as me pointing out that "GT sucks at passing" overall on a message board full of gifs, profanity, etc. and not in a doctoral thesis, only to be met with "no they don't", then I countered with every meaningful NCAA stat that says - welp yep they do suck at passing, and backed up by comments made by their own coach, only to be met with- nope they are "effective" at passing, and dcwilson and the ncaa stat book are trolls. yeah, the topic has run its course your right. I can post every week that Marshall is last or near it in passing stats, and the same posters will continue to argue that is still effective and call me a troll for listing official NCAA stats.
No man, I'm all for it. Keep it coming. But maybe some overall stat lines might help with the context, maybe even game clips or gifs or something. 15 pass attempts for a GT offense is a lot for a game, but still a small sample size. Were there any drops? PBUs? Did a WR "catch" the ball but didn't get a foot down inbounds, like we saw in the endzone against FSU? That goes down as an incomplete, but it wasn't exactly Josh Jackson's fault.
Maybe just keep a running thread going where you update weekly rather than making a new thread. I'd be interested in tracking with you
You can post passing efficiency stats until the cows come home. It doesn't make you right. If Georgia Tech completes a single long pass for a touchdown then their passing attack has effectively done its job. If NCAA stats are the end all be all of who is right and wrong then we can go back to GT being in the top 5 nationally in yards per completion for the past 10 seasons. I could also go pull up the stats on some air raid offense's rushing attack and say they suck at rushing because they average double digit yardage on the ground, but if one of their few rushes was a halfback draw to pick up a 3rd and long then that's a pretty darn effective run.
Didn't those "couple of bombs" win the game for GT against us? I'd say that was pretty effective. Remember, play context matters when you're determining if a result was effective or not. In a 2-minute drill, a WR could run a 12 yard out-route and the QB can put it right on the money for a quick completion, out of bounds, stop the clock. But if it was 4th-and-13, it's not an effective play.
You are really the only one arguing. Everybody else seems to accept the plainly obvious fact that GT is a running team and they are going to occasionally catch the defense sleeping and pop a couple 50 yard passes. Get them behind the sticks or down on the scoreboard and they become much more defensible.
it's kinda like this...
The shittier GT is, the more scared i am.
Unless that crappiness is on the exchange between the backs like that one year they fumbled almost every 5 snaps.
It is if the quarterback is named Bryan Randall
Unfortunately he owns Fuente until proven otherwise so i am just going to stay quiet until after this year's game...
Keep shootin your shot, dc!