What. A. Game.
I didn't think I was going to make through alive.
- The young players are maturing. They still make mistakes, but they are playing hard and they are not giving up.
- Ryan Willis is pretty fast. Either that or the UVA DB didn't take his pursuit seriously.
- The wide receivers may be the most talented group of athletes on the team and Wiggins is an excellent position coach. There were a couple of things Turner and Grimsley said about how they were coached that have informed this view
- Turner: 'If the ball is in the air, it's yours'
- Grimsley: "Wiggins says never give up on a play because you never know what's going to happen." Grimsley jumped on People's fumble for a TD.
- Foster's view from above allowed him to see a few things he may not have seen on the sidelines. That seems to have resulted in adjustments that clamped down on UVA's offense. I had often wondered if it would be better for him to be up there, but I also saw that he was signaling calls to the linebackers.
- Rambo is a baller.
- I really want the bowl streak to continue, but if it doesn't I won't be as upset as if we lost to UVA and still made a bowl. I can't explain the relief I felt after beating UVA. That win, in a down year, could really help with in state recruiting. It just shows that there is one thing Hokies don't do. Ever
- It's clear Fuente and the coaches have not lost the team or the locker room. This was a united team that played a full game of football
I'm very much looking forward to the Marshall game.
Go Hokies!
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For most part agree. Great game. I also have thought Bud may benefit from the booth in some games.
Don't agree on Wiggins as an excellent WR coach though. We have talented young players but Burden would get more out of them IMO.
Great win though and the team, players and coaches, notched a program defining moment for Fuente era.
I'm just curious how you know Burden would get more out of the WRs?
I'm not necessarily saying that he wouldn't. I just don't know what you've seen to suggest he'd do better than Wiggins.
Blocking
IMO, our receivers are more physical and put forth more effort in the run game than ever before. I don't see blocking being that big of an issue.
Easier to say after Haze didn't play WR for a game.
Having one receiver who is lackadaisical about blocking != a position coach not teaching players to block. Haze seems to be the outlier here in the blocking game.
For some reason, and this may be a maturity/young issue, but our receivers seem to be good for 1 critical drop per game. Yesterday Grimsley turned upfield before securing a 1st down catch.
Burden is a WR coaching RBs. Wiggins is a RB coaching WRs. I've long wondered about that arrangement.
Urban Meyer is a DB who built his career coaching offense.
Not everyone can do that. Urban Mayer is in the top 1%. Fuente could do it. It all depends on the person. Some people can't teach what they haven't done.
"Fuente could do it"
I don't get it. He's a quarterback known for being a quarterback guy and as far as I know he hasn't ever coached defense. You're just making a blind assumption
OMG. Seriously?
He played QB but successfully coached running backs.
That's still offense.
I don't understand your point. I didn't state anything about crossing sides of the ball. I just reinforced my contention that some guys can coach positions they never played while most can't. Am I missing something here? My statement remains true regardless.
I guess it's just a misunderstanding but I interpreted the OP we replied to "Urban Meyer is a DB who built his career coaching offense." As someone coaching the other side of the ball that they played. You took it as just a different position
Urban was never even a coordinator on either side of the ball. Typically, when you think of guys who went straight from position coach to Head Coach, you think of the Dabo/James Franklin coach who delegates a lot of X/O's to their coordinators. Urban is definitely an exception to the rule.
fundamentals mostly. this isn't indicative of the game they just played but overall from the time Fuente and staff began. Soft hands. Attacking the ball. High pointing. Crisp routes. Blocking. Selling off play. Finding seams. Sitting in space. etc.
Burden had a lot of great comments and buzz about his ability to develop WRs when he was hired and coming up. When he took over we saw progression in our receivers with no drop off. With Wiggins we keep seeing WRs that seemingly have breakout games/seasons then regress, never see the field or in Savoy's case transfer. WRs have been dropping far, far too many balls. Reception [receiving] is in the name of the position. If you see WRs dropping balls it's a big red flag on the position coach IMO.
I remember when Fuente was coming in he had Burden move over because he needed someone who knew the offense to teach it to the WRs who were vital to it's success. The notion was that Burden moving to RBs, which was meant to better round him as a offensive coach, would move back. And in my opinion, and to no fault of his, RB seems one of the weakest coaching positions we have. I am sure Burden knows the offense now. He should move back to WR and Wiggins to RBs.
This lands on a critical point that I've noticed. Tua is getting tons of Heisman hype, and deservedly so, given his numbers. Though, if you watch Bama play, you notice very few dropped passes and you also see multiple highlight catches each game. Heck, yesterday, one of the national media guys tweeted one of Bama's TD's as Tua's "Heisman moment". To me it looked more like the WR's Heisman moment, since it was a terrific catch. Yes, Tua put it in a place where it could be caught, but 99 out of 100 CFB WR's don't make that catch.
We need to start with consistently making the average play (e.g., 99 out of 100 times), then let the phenomenal receptions happen. When that happens, our O will seem like a completely different team.
correct. WRs simply cannot drop balls. It happens of course but for good WRs and great WR coaches it is something that simply doesn't exist in their world. Remember when Moorehead commented that he was looking for recruits that naturally was just carrying a ball with them, constantly throwing it in the air and catching it? That is the mentality. Never ever drop a ball, always catch it. Be one with the ball. It is a natural extension of your hands.
Now I am sure Wiggins isn't letting dropped balls go unnoticed but to me the quote "if the ball is in the air it's yours" is not what you normally hear from WR coaches. The ones I have been coached by and have known that have coached HS, collegiate and pro level always say this: "if you can touch it you better f-ing catch it."
fighting for the ball in the air is just assumed behavior. But if you get one damn finger on a ball as a "receiver" you're expected to catch that ball. It's a subtle difference but important IMO because it stresses the most fundamental duty you have as a WR no matter you are running, standing, diving, jumping, or crouching.
Maybe Wiggins says that too. I don't know if he isn't but like I said, so many dropped balls is a red flag to me.
Burden coaching RB's is to help our team now and Burden's shot at an OC job in the future. I never got the impression that there was any expectation he would switch back to WR's and Wiggins would take over RBs.
Defense looked awesome in the first half. They looked absolutely garbage in the second half except for the FG hold on the Willis INT. Defense definitely needs the extra practices for a bowl game.
And its not because the offense had them on the field too long, the defense just couldn't really do anything right for a long period of that second half. At one point, UVa had the ball for 13 plays to open the 2nd half. An 8 play 75 yard TD drive, a 1 play 75 yard TD drive, and a 4 play 75 yard TD drive. They just looked like a complete and utter mess. They were in position to make plays, and just couldn't even get a hand on a player. The fundamentals were just... bad.
What I want to know is if it is an adjustment issue. Seems like almost every game in the second half of the season saw us shit the bed defensively. Is this because the other team has made adjustments and we can't compensate? Idk, but it was definitely frustrating watching UVA score at will for 4 straight possessions.
Didn't Bud basically say at one point this defense is too young to really make adjustments? In that they're still just trying to learn the system and not all the potential tweaks that can be made.
No. I said that. I had a dream where I was having dinner with Bud and that was his answer when I asked wtf was up with the defense. To my knowledge he never actually said that
I recall Andy Bitter reporting that Bud said that he can't make adjustments on the fly. I'd assume that would also mean that halftime adjustments would have to be relatively small, compared to what he could do in other years.
Yeah which is why I can't fault the people who left after UVa took the lead and then forced the punt. Our defense was garbage to open the second half, much like we had been in pretty much every game since basically September. We'd seen that movie before... offense shutting down, defense getting abused... It just looked like this was going to continue the trend from the last month or so, and we were destined to lose by at least 2 scores.
And then everything changed. I don't even think the most optimistic of us thought that 4th TD, when the defense had allowed its 310th yard of the second half without forcing a punt would be the last time the Hoos would see the end zone all game, and yet.....
UVA took the lead with less than 7 minutes left and never lead by more than 7. It wasn't a blowout. The players didn't lay down. There was no legitimate football-related reason to leave. I'm with Lu on this one.
This wasn't the same as the other 2nd halves. The offense did produce something to respond to UVA's scores and kept the game in VT's favor through the 12:55 mark of the 4th.
After the 1st UVA TD, VT goes 14 plays, 61 yards, in 6:20 for a FG;
After the 2nd UVA TD, VT goes 8 plays, 75 yards, in 4:02 for a TD.
A response by the offense is something lacking since the TD drive before halftime against ND.
In the 4th quarter the O did have one stalled drive and then the tipped pass INT while UVA took a 7 point lead but the offense had already shown in the 2nd half that they could respond.
The narrative of this game is different and the result is different.
I think Bud and staff put an excellent game plan together thru the week but lack the on field experience to do much adjustment on the fly. I also get the feeling the d is robbing peter to pay paul which is pretty easy to adjust against.
Foster addressed an adjustments made from the booth.
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Yes. I don't think Bud is opening the playbook because of the defensive issues.
They held UVA to 12 yards on their last 3 drives. They finally adjusted to Perkins keeping the ball, and that made all the difference in the end.
No idea why it took Bud the entire 3rd quarter and much of the 4th to make the adjustment, but it's not like they got lucky on a single drive late in the game.
Probably because after 4 tries you can be sure it's not just a wrinkle and you can change up for the rest of the game.
Totally agree on the sentiment about Marshall. For right now, I'm good. I do hope we win that game and I'm sure I'll be more worrisome about it as it comes but if we had to play that game today I wouldn't care the outcome.
Just glad we got to keep the streak. The team played the full game. We had our usual 3d qtr appearance but not as bad as in the past.
Secondary played one of their best games coverage wise IMO. Sure there were some mistakes and a complete whiff on an assignment that we escaped due to an underthrow but for the most part they played great in coverage.
Dax is a beast. That kid has more fire in him than he knows what to with. Wish he could've come down with the int on the tip hi had but otherwise was a baller.
Walker had a great game in #25. Played a game worthy of wearing the number.
Tre Turner.....there are not words.....he is gonna be awesome
RBs had some good runs and seemed like they were a shoestring tackle from breaking a big one a lot of times.
And sometimes it just better to be lucky than good.....questionable fumble recovery inside the 20, willis' run down of the int, dropped long pass, grimsely recovering peoples fumble into the endzone, offsides on the blocked PAT, fumble to end the game....whew....that's a lot of emotion and wear on a heart.
In fairness, they would NEVER have blocked that extra point if the guy hadn't jumped offside almost a second and a half early. From my seats in section 31, it was so obvious I didn't even care he got to the kick 'cause I knew it wasn't gonna hold up.
I was irritated they just didn't blow it dead as they they him run down the field.
They did blow it dead. That didn't stop him from running down the field.
Belmar seemed to be everywhere on my TV, including the last fumble recovery I think. Hopefully he emerges into something special.
McClease's performance was encouraging. 6.3 yards per carry and consistent.
For the first time even, this season I'm starting to think moving Zohn to RB coach might work.
I think the receiving corps has issues. They don't block well I see sloppy routes regularly. I think your point speaks more to the points that they are talented and that they play with great effort. That's great, but not necessarily great coaching.
The coaches and the players look like they are definitely committed and strong together. The joy and relief at the end of the game was very evident. This meant something to the team.
Watching the team live this year, I personally chalk our challenges up to attrition. We are VERY young on defense. We made tons of mistakes, but we can get better there. We will be better next year. On offense, I think Willis is a baller but not great at making reads, stares down his man, and often makes throws he shouldn't. I think they simplified the offense for him - this does not feel completely like the misdirection offense fuente usually runs. I think the offensive line can get better, and we need a game breaker RB, but we can get better. I don't buy into all the noise about program issues. Overall, I am hopeful for the future.
Now let's get bowl eligible so we can get these young guys some more practices!
Excellent points!
Do you feel the conservative play calling on offense is the result of the bad reads by Willis? Would the coaches trust Jackson enough to go for the score in a 2 min drill instead of running the clock?
It's a good question. I think they trust JJ to run the full offense, but JJ does not have that gunslinger mentality like RW. It will be interesting to see if they open up the offense with Willis in the (presumed) bowl game after they get two more weeks to install some more of the offense.
Just wanted to add that from the stadium, the whole team swelled around RW after he ran down that DB. We didn't come out swinging the way I hoped after half, but it was good to see the team is united
Somewhere, right now, Bryce Watts is committing pass interference...
But all's we'll that ends well.
When burnt, 15 yard PI is always preferable to a long TD. I'm okay with these young CBs grabbing right now, provided they grow out of it.
Amen! This is one of the ludicrous rules that should change to the pro rule of being a spot foul-not only for fairness but also for player safety. The other rule that be revised (for pro AND college level) is on intentional grounding. Keep the guidelines re being outside the tackle box and the ball going near a receiver or past the line of scrimmage BUT add a ten yard penalty FROM THE SPOT OF THE THROW if it is ruled grounding. As it stands there is ZERO penalty for grounding because if you DO get called, the ball is down where you would have been sacked anyway. By adding another ten yards back, you make the QB think twice about intentionally grounding it.(and STILL allow them to throw it away as long as it gets past he line of scrimmage)
Lol
Went back and watched the highlights. So many of the good things that happened in that game we're due to Ryan Willis' sheer will, if not his ability. The hustle play to save the pick 6, the desperation throw to Keene, numerous runs for first down. His box score was ugly, but there were at least 4 dropped passes that we're purely on the WRs. And "Scared money don't make money" is a quote for the ages His balls (okay, and a lot of luck) were the difference in the game.
His chase down was epic. Ran through an official and still got the angle. Kid has a little Brewer in him.
His chase down was epic. Stiff-armed
Ran throughan official and still got the angle. Kid has a little Brewer in him.FTFY
And also a lot of the bad things that happened were due to Ryan Willis' lack of ability. He had an all-time heart and motor, but he is a liability and severely limits this offense.
That was the most Ryan Willis of Ryan Willis games.
And that interception/tackle was quintessential Ryan Willis.
SO of all the Ryan Willises in the world, he's the Ryan Willisiest?
JJ17 is just fine as a game manager when the team has a lead. But when the chips are down, I don't believe he can carry the team like Willis can. I don't see us getting the UNC or UVA wins without Willis this year.
WVU?
GT, UVA, Miami, ODU?
He wasn't in those games and Willis only "lead" the team to a win in one.
Are you serious? JJ didn't play against those teams this year??
You cited a single game last year - his first ever - where JJ handled adversity well, trying to state he's reliable to go out and win a game.
Go back and watch Miami, GT, or UVA last year (the year you were originally referring to), or the ODU game from this year, and tell us how JJ throws the team on his back.
JJ doesn't have to do that because he very rarely, if ever, puts the team in the kind of danger Willis does. I'm not into crapping on these guys, but I'm also not into overly praising efforts that were required due to devastating or potentially devastating mistakes.
It's almost a wash between the two, except one day Willis won't be able to make up for his mistakes.
so willis is the one who gave up 30 points a game and couldn't get a stop all year?
Yes.
Without looking, who do you think is who?
57.0%, 7.12 YPA, 2.25 TD/INT ratio, 130.9 QBR
59.6%, 7.55 YPA, 2.22 TD/INT ratio, 135.2 QBR
pretty sure bottom was Josh Jackson last year
I'd take JJ's freshman year with a grain of salt. I think he was banged up for most of it. He looked good against WVU and Oklahoma State when he was healthy. I think he might have gotten hurt on that long run against WVU and never had time to recover till the end of the regular season.
I mean...JJ probably.wouldnt have thrown the pick in the first place?
How about the throw to Keene when down 7 with the game on the line.? Does JJ attempt that throw?
Would we have needed that desperate throw without a pick that led to a TD?
What pick led to a TD?
Sorry. I guess it was a field goal.
There was also the pick that took a FG attempt off the board for us, so -6 points for INTs (could've been -13 if Willis didn't run down the UVA DB as the first half expired)
Did anyone notice that Hazelton was nonexistent on offense the entire game? The only time I recall hearing his name was on punt returns.
He is hurt. Played punt return and only fair caught cause he couldn't run. Did not play on offense.
He was hurt, limited in practice all week.
Yeah, its like he didn't even take the field on offense.
Wait....
That would make a lot of sense then. Appreciate it!
Totally just curious about everyone's thoughts about Corny after a win?
My thoughts are he stilled called a mediocre game with some puzzling calls. My example for this is the 3rd and long screen on their side of the field. I think there were a ton of mental lapses by the players, but overall average gameplan in my couch qb opinion.
The offense will work with better and more consistent QB play. Don't get me wrong, Willis gutted out a win yesterday, but he's probably not the ideal guy to be running our offense. If JJ is back and healthy or if QP is everything people say he is, things could look night and day different on offense next year.
Yet I imagine there's still people out there singing his praises because they hate J.J. for some unfathomable reason. Willis has a lot of heart, and I don't think J.J. could have caught Harris, but his field vision and decision making have left me wanting. We were so fortunate he didn't get sacked on that 3rd down in OT. Yeah, the play call probably wasn't great but he stared down Tre the entire time and didn't even try to just run to get some yards or throw it away and he seems to do both of these things way, way too much.
Deer in headlights when he saw the free defender in OT. We are lucky that one didn't cost us the game, it very easily could have.
I think a lot of our issues this year just stem from the fact we are starting a backup at the most important position on the field. Sometimes there is a reason the backup is a backup. I'm glad Willis got the w last night, he needed it, but there were enough issues from execution at the QB spot last night that we can't make any wide ranging decisions about OC this year. Its tough to make definitive statements about the offense when even the coaches show they don't really trust the QB via playcalling.
all of them pretty much?
He deserves to be canned for calling an 8 yard out with 8 seconds on the clock from the 30 yard line. He was playing for a field goal. Take 1-2 shots at the end zone. Period.
I was screaming at the tv. Should have been two fades or back shoulder throws to our big receivers in the end zone. Play calling at certain times is baffling.
Unfortunately I'm not shocked to see another astonishingly bad take. A field goal was a higher percentage play and had substantial value at that point as it would have put us up 3 scores. If you think it's a fireable offense to throw a pass in an attempt to gain a few yards and get into solid field goal range at that point, I'm guessing you go ballistic for more than 50% of the each game.
on madden I go for it on 4th down everytime no matter the down and distance!
Nope but I also recognize that we have a field goal kicker that has been less than reliable at anything more than 40 yards and that is what we were looking at.
I disagree with your bad take comment. Going up three scores with a TD would have taken the wind out of their sails.
In that field position where we're close to being in FG range it's a waste to just force the ball to the end zone and give up on the 3pt option. You chuck it to the end zone when 1) you're far far out of FG range and have no time to get into FG range 2) you're in FG range and have enough time to burn a play or two chucking it to the endzone
We were in neither position. Our best odds for points was to work it up field and take a FG as time expired.
I'll also point out that there are multiple routes being run on any given play. There's up to 5 eligible receivers after all. Pretty sure we had a player on a streak route up the sideline, but UVA had it covered with their pre-snap alignment. Willis thought the CB would be sinking the cover the deeper route and that the out route would be the better throw vs a safety who left a deep cushion off the slot. Obviously the CB successfully delayed bailing to follow the streak and made a break on the ball.
Oh and one last thing, it was a 5-yard out...
This makes no sense. A fade in that scenario becomes essentially a hail Mary against deep coverage, a very low percentage play. The out pattern would have went out of bounds at the 25, the exact place we kicked a game winner from in overtime.
The calls were fine. I feel for Corny a little bit. He is doing everything he can to keep on schedule with the chains. When the right play call gets tipped or the wr drops a pass, we get into a 2nd or 3rd and long. The offense looks nothing like what they want to run which points to limitations with the roster. Everybody wants the coaches to adapt to what the players do well, and they have, and this is what it looks like.
Iffy. Things like the jet sweep worked really well and looked good. At times the running game looked competent. No QB shuffling was a plus. This was a decent, if not good, UVA defense and the fourth best defense we faced this year. Our performance relative to their average points allowed was +11 which is the best performance we have put up this year.
On the other side of the ball this was the defenses best game since BC.
If we're talking Cornelsen, our offense didn't score 34 on UVA. 7 were from a blocked punt. 3 points were OT, where you start on the 25 yd line, so really we're talking 24. A 1 point difference.
You could easily be misled into thinking Texas A&M and LSU have the world's crappiest defenses if you didn't cut off at regulation! (Per S&P, LSU is 11th and TA&M 33rd before this week).
Any rational person could look at a 7 OT game and understand there would be a lot of scoring.
Me pointing out that 7 points on a blocked punt when the offense wasn't even on the field, and a 40 yd FG after not moving the ball bc we started on the 25, and not praising our OC for 'scoring' those points is nothing like that at all.
I am agreeing with you.
It's better to remove overtime statistics when comparing game stats (and in my opinion, entirely).
Texas A&M vs. LSU very clearly supports why your statement is correct. It's rational to claim "they're stats, so I'm counting them". But regulation possessions are different than overtime possessions for a myriad of reasons.
I agree with the part about special teams points, too.
Gotcha - I incorrectly inferred. My bad
I think we won't really be able to tell who Corny really is until he gets "his"QB. That being said, I there were some head scratching moments in the first half from a play calling perspective. We went away from the running game when it was working so well. a few times on 3rd and medium (3-4), we go horizontal with WR screens that for whatever reason are never blocked very well.
And at the end of the game (around 4:00 minutes left. After stupidly wasting our TO's) we had plenty of time to run the offense, but we decided the game needed to completely be in the hands of Willis. I thought the play calling on that drive (if you can even call it a drive) was atrocious.
Evans, Willis, HH, and QP were all recruited to VT by Fuente and Cornelsen. Who are we waiting for?
There's sort of a subtle point I'm making there as well...
Translation: it would have been nice to see what the offense could have done this season had J.J.'s season not ended in the ODU game.
Second coming of michael Vick who can take over a game on his own with our without the help of a competent OC
What exactly is wrong with a screen on 3rd and long? A screen is most effective as a wrinkle in a clear passing situation and I've seen it work at every level of football. The reason is there's a high chance that the defense will sit on any throws at the first down marker. Also it takes time to run routes down the field and if the o-line is unable to block rushers or the QB is struggling under pressure, it creates a chance to get the ball in a skill player's hands in the open field.
The Willis tackle before halftime answered every question I had about this team. The last few weeks, the sideline has not looked great and the effort did not seem to be there. (Maybe it was and I couldn't see it). But yesterday, they played all game. They worked and made mistakes, but they did not give up. They did not sulk. They played hard and tough.
If we had lost after that interception in the 4th (or after the fumble, or in overtime), I would have been disappointed we didn't get the win. But that performance, mistakes and all is what I feel we have been missing the past few weeks. Win or lose next week, this game made me feel like the future is bright. All that youth is going to be a huge asset once the rough patches get smoothed out.
We kept asking who the next great Hokie would be to step up and lead the team. I think we got a few answers yesterday.
I don't know how you or anyone else ever thought Fu was losing the locker room. I think non objective folks thought that. It's clear to me that throughout the season the team loved the staff.
Losing is tough, man. If you win, guys who aren't playing that much think it's worth it. Their parents and posse shuts up about how much time they are getting. Life is easier on campus and in social media.
Could we have handled losing better? Probably, but we get very little insight. But let's just win from now on and not worry about it b
I think this is the most improbable, crazy win I've ever seen. I think it beats out Nebraska and Belk Bowl in that department
Just gonna list some moments because it's amazing
1. UVA player drops a wide open bomb
2. Perkins fumbles TWICE in the red zone
3. Dalton Keene answers Ryan's prayer
4. The Fumble in the end zone that the uva player could have fallen on but we get the touchdown
5. Ricky could have been called for targeting. I personally thought that would have been a weak call, but it was close
6. Ryan Willis NEARLY throws a pick 6. He has to run through a ref and drags the guy down just in time
Holy crap that game was insane
The thing about the targeting call was:
A) I thought instinctively it probably was targeting,
B) I don't know what targeting is anymore,
C) we should get rid of targeting and call Unnecessary Roughness and Launching. If we can get rid of egregiously dangerous plays that aren't necessary, we would solve most problems. And it's defenders launching (leaving their feet in an upward motion) that causes a lot of damage.
Like the Ladler Targeting, this looked like a good hard tackle where the offensive player puts his head in harms way as much as ill intent from the defender. The rule needs a serious reconsider.
Walker did not hit the guy with the crown of his helmet.
Runner cut back and led with his helmet.
The runner was not defenseless.
From what I see watching hokietapes replay right now, it wasn't that close, no targeting.
Yeah but I've seen guys ejected for less. Never want to put that kind of decision in the hands of refs, especially ACC quality refs. We're lucky he wasn't tossed, especially after the extra ref called for the review.
Targeting can be any blow to the head
By rule, that only applies when the ball carrier is defenseless.
This was the first game in a LONG time this season I felt we made a noticeable improvement from the previous game.
I thought we were better defensively against Miami.
I don't do the twitters, but has anyone heard a peep out of Plantin?
His most recent tweets were shout outs to Tre Turner and Deshawn McClease
Any clue what was going on in Farley's mind on the wide open dropped pass by UVA?
Looks like a last-minute, late communication bust. Rodgers (18) moves to the middle of the field with the receiver in motion, and is pointing to the outside receiver, which I assume was part of trying to tell Farley that he should take him, that he doesn't have help behind him. Then we ended up with 3 defenders basically looking at no one, so probably a lot of mistakes all around there.
That was 100% on Rodgers
After the play Farley was pointing at himself as if to take blame for the miscue
No he wasn't. He was giving the defensive signal to Rodgers that he had over the top coverage.
Watch the play he and the other DB give a five fingers on top of helmet signal to the safety.
What does that signal mean?
Nanny nanny boo boo.
Probably a zone coverage read or the safety has to pick up man deep.
Wig and Zohn need to switch positions in the staff. They both have experience in the other's positions and from what I can see, the receivers lack discipline, which is Zohn's strong suit as a military man.
Does anyone know the songs being played on the scoreboard last night?
Was enjoying some of the rap ones in particular.
You'll have to be more specific, they played a lot of songs.
There was a good one something about "sway" then another with "my time"
in it.
One that got the team and fans hyped up was Mo Bamba by Sheck Wes
That's the song thanks!
No they need depth and more experience. Basically a JV defense this year.
A lot of talk about catching a lucky break with UVA player not securing the fumble in the endzone. But the good guys made their luck with good effort. UVA had one guy dive for the ball and he missed. Meanwhile, immediately after he missed, VT had 6 guys jump on the ball at once. It was the same thing with the OT fumble. You can talk about luck, but you cannot deny the effort of 6 guys chasing after the play, and they were rewarded by recovering a fumble for a TD.
Meh, Bill Connelly has wrote ad nauseam about how turnovers (especially fumble recoveries) are luck. Here's his statistical analysis from 2014, but he has plenty of other articles where he mentions it.
The turnover event being a more or less random event and taking advantage of turnover opportunities is two completely different issues.
In addition, the OP's point was VT had 6 guys in position to get the TO vs UVA's 1. That kind of effort on a single play, increases your opportunity to take advantage of the 'luck' that's presented.
UVA also had a DB that got run down by a 6'4" 225lb QB who's not exactly Mike Vick, in the speed category.
I mean, a fumbled ball has to land in a place nearby 6 players in order for them to swarm to it. I don't have time to rewatch the fumbled plays, but I'd wager that if we recovered the ball, more often than not, our players were in an advantageous position relative to where the ball landed (before they swarmed the fumbled ball).
Just because a player is near a fumbled ball doesn't mean they make the effort to run towards and/or jump on and/or fight for it.
I still see the fumbled ball that Walker didn't pick up in the GT game!!!
Saw "Maryland aka scum of the earth" and was wondering why that wasn't attributed to WVU. Then I realized that they also haven't beaten us since 2003. Amazing.
Two things that really bother me about this list:
A.) more recently THAN UVA
ii. they use "IIII" instead of "IV"
*eye twitch* (also, s/ on how I numbered my list, just in case anyone would've pointed out the irony of it)
IIII is acceptable because it's how the Romans originally wrote 4 (IIII) and 9 (VIIII), however the notation eventually became problematic (in part because it was easy to confuse with 3 [III] and 8 [VIII]) and subtractive notation was eventually adopted. Even then subtractive notation didn't become popular until the 13th century, long after the fall of the Western Roman Empire.
Sounds like a World of Tanks fan.
I didn't see any quote or video of him saying it, but the announcers said during the broadcast that Fuente told the media, "If they (UVA) are going to beat us, it better be this year."
That is the kind of shit I like to hear from CF. Fuente knows the streak is important to a lot of people, and understands with all kinds of attrition we had this year, the only way is up.... (you would hope lol)
I mentioned this a thread after the Miami game, but Fuente and company have been emphatic that we'll turn the corner and be back to meeting the standard that was set early in his tenure very soon. Whether or not that proves to be true is up for discussion, but I at least applaud the display of confidence.
I agree.... UVA should have some key players returning next year (Dubois, Joe Reed, Perkins, Jordan Mack, Snowden) so if they don't do it next year, the streak could be extended for a very long time.