2019 Winter Fishing Report Discussion Thread II

After 600 comments the old thread stopped loading on my phone so I figured I'd go ahead and start a new on cause I had a fantastic day. Not fishing but in finding deals.

Academy has a sale going on right now. GO to it. Soft plastics for pennies, terminal tackle for pennies, deep cycle batteries for $20.

This haul cost me $98 after tax....

Also this showed up in the mail. It cost more than $98

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To clarify, that's $98 with the battery and the Kershaw which were $20 each.

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Great haul! Too bad there aren't any in VA.

Ooops didn't realize that. So this is now a rub it in yall's face thread.

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Well played heuplek. I was online searching like crazy for those deals on the Gulp and Gamakatsu's. :) I did stumble on a nice pair of replacement boots for the ones I had to retire yesterday, at least.

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Bought every pack of gamakatsu in the bin. $1 a pack for weighted keel 4/0, 5/0, 6/0, and 7/0

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That Allen reel is beautiful what size did you get?

Girlfriend bought me an orvis fishing shirt that fits great can't wait to use it this year

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Size 3 7-9wt

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Very nice definitely recommend the redfish line it used to be on sale at greentop a few weeks back.

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I have this reel and freaking love it

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Finally got an alpha 3, got a very lightly used one for 110$ so now I have one I can use and that way I can keep my sage in freshwater and use this for the rest

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Wow, that's a haul. I'd almost travel to find one of those stores for a decent deal on Gulp. Never on sale, never discounted less than Wallyworld sells it. Nice knife, too.

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Not many flip deals had a couple of the recharge containers but if like 2.5" kicker shads. I personally don't like fishing stuff that anal because then I have to change a while rig out... And pinfish

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do you ever catch anything worth keeping when pinfish are around? If I'm in pinfish, I leave...which may be a mistake.

Occasionally is hard to keep and confidence though they absolutely destroy whatever you put in the water... If I'm around a lot of them I just cast net em for bait.

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Naw, I have a buddy who'll fish the 3", but it's the 4'' swimming mullet for me. Shrimp-wise, I'll go to 3'' because of the bulk of the body, but if the fish are sizable, I go bigger with them as well.
I'd say screw pinfish, but one time in Fla with a rusty spike hole in my left foot, I was dock restricted for almost a week and the strangers I was staying with set me up for fishing behind their trailer. Pinfish was all there was, and I ended up eating them four or five times that week. I was poor as a church mouse and pissed off from the spiking. The folks I was staying with met me bloody on the road to find a doctor and just took me in for a while, and I felt like I needed to get my own grub. Oh well.

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so, what does a pinfish taste like...bloody/oily; or decent, just tiny?

edit: better or worse than McD's filet-o-fish

Guessing on appearance alone I'd take the under

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The only thing I have seen eat one was a turn around bluefish (as in nothing cool likes pinfish so I am going to take this bluefish that ate the pinfish and use it as my live bait.) However, I have heard they are money amberjack bait.

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I've heard they are good grouper bait too.

I've heard reds love them.

You know what really like them? Loons.

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Loons - not just a clever name

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Reds love them. Next to mullet I'm dumping pinfish in the live well.

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Do you trim the dorsal fin off of them when using them for reds?

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Depends on their size, the bigger ones yes, the smaller ones I just clip the tail so they don't go swimming into an oyster bed.

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I used to rig 6-8 inch mullet on a Carolina Rig in Charleston and clip the tail fin off. They hated being on the bottom and would really try to swim away fast and you could feel them shaking on your line. So could the giant redfish and I got several sleigh rides out of that tactic

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Oh yeah, I do that with every mullet, even if I have them rigged on a cork they go into full on panic mode. The only issue I have with it is the amount of blood that goes everywhere.

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LOL sounds like you're cuttin' it awfully close. I do just the fin

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might be the best big trout bait there is

Still better than sandperch

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Naw, man. They're good to eat, just too small to be worth cleaning, usually. I didn't filet them, just cleaned, scaled and cut of the head, cornmeal and fried whole. Taste right along the same as most panfish like spot and whiting and the rest. I was poor as a church mouse, and they tasted damn good when I was hongry as a bar.

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What is wrong here? My Rapala jerk bait lost it's rear hook. Now I have caught many fish with this and most of them big but it failed me this morning. I got the bass up to the rip rap and was reaching to lip her then this happened. I'm guessing 5-6 pounds. In a month she'll be 7-8. Spring is coming! Tight lines!

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I've never seen a Rapala do that. Did the wire pull out?

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Yes it did. I have had many Rapala lips fall off but never a hook! And BTW suspending Rapalas are not great at; well, suspending. And here is your most awesome image of the day.

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I've had this happen to a few of my rapala's, usually once they've been beat up some the wire eventually pulls through the seam. PS a lot of suspending baits will suspend in a certain water temp so during different times of the year you can have different results with how "suspending" a bait is.

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Ive had the wire hooks fall out before. Most commonly on Rapala crankbaits the lips usually fall off after a few hard days of chucking them I have never had one last a full year of use.

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2 things that were definitely going to happen on a New small mouth trip with hard baits for me were: Losing one Rapala DT4/6 lip and breaking a KVD squarebill treble. I eventually decided to change those out right out of the package.

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This is all news to me, I've never ever had a Rapala fail me in any way.

It's also been a LONG time since I fished one... maybe I'll rig one up on the 7 weight for the hell of it.

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Fishing in ponds I've never had one break but in the river they break alot it's aggravating to have that fail it alot before the hooks even dull to have the bill snap off

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You might be joking, but my favorite childhood Rapala tactic, cast-wait-pop-wait-pop-reel in fish, wouldn't be too hard to do with a fly rod. I think I'll try it this summer.

I wasn't really joking but I'm not sure I could live with myself. Black over gold Rapala with the same retrieve you mentioned caught more bass than I could count when I was a kid. Guess I need to make an exact fly replica

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Shoutout to IFish for the reel again, met up with him yesterday. Still an unbelievably nice gesture, it will be put to good use this spring!

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Thanks for coming by to get it. We were already in tailgate mode for the GT game and it was nice not to have to drive around to meet you. I do wish I could have had more time so we could have visited a bit and I'da boughten ya a brewski and told you way too many New River stories, but it is always good to put a face to a name, especially for the TKP fishing thread community. Many of us are gradually getting to know each other and it makes me feel good to have been able to pass along gear to you younger folks. Again BornHokie, it was my pleasure. Hope it serves you well, and contact me anytime you might have some questions about fishing the New that I may be able to answer. My 26 years fishing it taught me a ton.

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Girlfriend knows I'm not one for candy so got me a new orvis fishing shirt and an alpha 3 reel, I used to not like Valentine's but I'm warming to it now

Man I wish Allen would put alpha 3 logo on both sides of the rod hilt piece

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Sounds like I need a girlfriend

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Find one that loves fishing more than you and I garuntee life will be at it's best. Never thought I'd be in a relationship with someone who would drag me out of bead in the morning to go fishing every chance we get.

Now my 8 wt setup is complete time to get the 5/6 setup

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Haha I've dated 'em all man. Lots of "ones." Good one, bad one, fun one, boring one, crazy one, cool one, psycho one, lame one, freaky one, smart one, "the" one.... Several of them are now into fly fishing because of me and a few of them really love it. The most recent girl I seriously dated bought me a $700 Mauser fly rod. It was an incredible gift. The current one I've been talking to is @barbieonthefly on instagram. She sure as hell loves fly fishing more than me.

I'm too picky and too selfish and overall I'm just not too worried about it... one of these days I may settle down.

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one of these days I may settle down

I tell myself this regularly then realize all my friends that have gone that way don't have boats or near as much time as I do. Call it selfish but I like my time.

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Totally agree!

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Now me, I have a different take on this subject. Having a life partner (going on 47 years for me) is one of the most important things in the world to me, no doubt, but one of the things that has kept us together for so long is the ability to have separate interests, loves and hobbies to pursue. Yes, we spend an awful lot of time together, but fishing is something she just doesn't have an interest in. I, for one, am glad of that. Now, my wife understands my need to fish as built in and of great importance to my well being, so that helps a lot. No, I don't have the boat I might have (nor the debt), and I don't take off for the Gulf every winter for reds, or to New Zealand for big trout, but if I need it, I get it, and if I really want to go, I go. But, the fact of the matter is, if you are going to get married, you HAVE to be willing to compromise, regardless of the issue, and for me, the association makes my life a lot better than the total freedom to do as I selfishly choose would do. Just me, though.

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I am a lucky guy. I would be luckier if I shut up enough while she fishes so she would enjoy going anymore. I fish for fun. She says "it's serious business."

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*thinking to myself* - I am a lucky guy. I still remember when I was dating my wife. Her favorite meal was a cheeseburger and a coke (low maintenance + drama), and we'd go down the James near Scottsville every other weekend. She didn't care for the fishing, but she enjoyed paddling the canoe around and reading her books, so it worked out perfectly - I fished and she enjoyed being out on the water and in nature. Twelve years later, we've got 3 awesome kids and a boat. I don't fish as much as I used to, for sure, but it's a darn good life.

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Well said, Scott.

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Gonna be sketching up and trying to build a boat rack for the truck bed for the upcoming year hoping to make it adjustable and stowable to some extent

This weekend is looking like a good weekend to make some soft plastics and tie a few flies even

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weather is beautiful here; so nice in fact that I'll spend ALL of it working on finishing the tile on the deck...grrrr

While I know politics and TKP don't mix, I know that flyguy and I have occasionally railed against Dominion and their power and actions to the detriment of our resources, I have to throw this in. While visiting my Hokie buds this week, I stayed with a friend whose entire property in Newport was bisected by the latest pipeline debacle. The destruction of a unique property was heartbreaking. Hundreds of trees he planted 50 years ago to buffer his place from the noise and traffic of 460 were taken out, leaving noise and unsightly views and passing just over a hundred feet from the barn he turned into a great house, also over the last 50 years. All of this eminent domain stealing of his land, against his will, for the profit of the company and no benefit to the public. To also see what they've run into with the steepness and rocky nature of those mountains should be criminal. Add in that a rupture and explosion of the line would obliterate his house and anyone in it... I could go on, but I'll end this rant here.

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What a shame.

I hate Dominion with ever fiber of my being. I've said some pretty terrible stuff about that company and I don't regret one word of it. I'll continue to blast them as much as I possibly can.

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Jesse, I sent you the tying videos via Instagram DM. Send me your phone number and I'll text the videos to you

Hopefully I can get them up on Youtube so I can share with everyone

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Thanks for the videos as always hopefully they'll be up on YouTube to help others the two humps of thread to hold the eyes was one that helped alot. Will add pictures when I'm done this evening
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Sure thing, looks great!

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Green top was out of #2 hooks which are probably what I should be using all I've got are streamer #8s, #4s, and the up to 2/0 long shanks but I need bigger eyes for the 2/0

I can definitely see why people tie their own materials are super cheap and by late last night I was down to 20-25 minutes per minnow

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Are you looking for #2 saltwater hooks or freshwater?

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I think freshwater? I was looking in the Allen hooks section they had run out of most of the long shanks streamer hooks guess j could've looked into the saltwater section. what sizes do you typically use for clousers and schminnows?

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For saltwater Clousers I use a 34007. You can get 100 packs only for pretty cheap. Schminnow is best on a longer shank, Mustad 34011, size 4.

For freshwater Clousers and pretty much any LMB or SMB fly, I recommend a Mustad 3366.

Both hooks are not expensive, and sometimes they need to be sharpened, but they get the job done and are much cheaper than all of these higher end hooks. I tied on them for years until I started selling flies. Still fish with 3366, 34007 and 34011 on occasion. The 34011 is the hook on my Redfish Wiggler.

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Thanks for the info as always I'll get some from online this week since green top was bout out of hooks, gonna tie some pink/white combos and then some brown with orange underside. What other colors would be good to add to the collection I got a bunch of chartreuse and white and a few whites with silver so far. Gonna get a whip finisher tool before I do more by hand it's tricky.

Been coating the heads with sealant glue I got with the kit to help hold it better

Also what size 34007s do you use for the clousers? 1/0 or 2/0 seems to be what I see from most people.

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Top saltwater color combos:

Chart/ white
Olive/ white
Tan / White
Pink / white
Pink / Chart
Black / Orange

I tie my salty clousers on a size 2 or 1 with medium lead eyes. I think Lefty said at one point you could catch any saltwater fish on a size 1 hook.

Not sure what you are using but I love Krazy Glue brushable super glue.

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I'm using wapsi fly head cement and I add it using a toothpick in small drops to coat it enough to hopefully help the thread stay put.

I'll check on what green top has I tied my stuff on number 4 Allen hooks so I'll do more this weekend on 1s or 2s whatever green top has for saltwater and keep tying a few more on 4s and 6s for bream and river fishing smallies. I'll try and have a bunch of each pattern to amass a collection.

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Its always more funner to catch fish on your own lures!

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Just got back from Giles and Blacksburg and saw some impressive musky pictures from the last few weeks. There seem to be a lot of people fishing for them these days, and several guides targeting them in the winter.

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Shannon has been killin it all fall and winter.

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Been talking with a buddy about maybe hitting Chickahominy Lake for early season crappie and yellow perch. Anyone out there have any helpful experience in such? I also know there's a good shad/herring run in the river, but don't know dick about it. I've fished the lake once decades ago and we did ok, but like I said...decades. I'm not into the bass fishing, mainly interested in the schooling fishes. Little help?

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I'm of no help to you there for the crappie unfortunately. I can tell you where a 6 pound largemouth lives though.

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I am resident on the river (right near James). I've always had luck with curly-tailed grubs and tiny blade-baits early season. Pretty standard if you ask me, but hey, it works.

EDIT: forgot about smaller jerkbaits too

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Greentop sells tube jigs for crappie that are rainbow colored. White skirt blue body, the pink is on the inside of the skirt. Really light jigs and just jig them all over till you hit them early season that color pattern is dynamite if the water is clear or muddy.

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Crappie and walleye are my puppy drum of fresh water. I only seem to catch crappie on accident. I even caught a monster that swallowed a zoom plastic lizard years back.

Historically Walkers Dam on the Chickihominy loads up with Shad. I don't know the access details.

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There are a ton of ways to catch them, and I have the baits and plenty of experience catching them, but it's the finding of 'em in unfamiliar waters I struggle with. Most of my favorite crappie spots were beaver lodges or blowdowns, or creek channels that I found over time, but I've done all the minnows, bobber and flies or jigs, blades, paddle tail grubs, doll flies and on and on, so I think I can catch them. I just need a head start on which arm or creek on the lake might be a good place to start, etc. You know, somebody do all the work and then tell me where to go so I can sore mouth a significant portion of the local stock for you in return. But while I jest, I'd appreciate it.

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I will ask around. I always wanted to fish Chickahominy. My dad would take his Sears Ted Williams boat there and fish with big plastic worms for bass in the early 70s and caught some bass in the 8 pound range. Mounted one that was 8 plus. If you figure it out, I may try to join you to check that box on my list.

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Anyone know when the red drum might show up in the bay if they show up this year? Now that I have the tackle and boat to tackle them Id like to give em a go just hoping they show up in bigger numbers this year since I know last year was a down year. Would love if theyd come back to the mobjack since thats a short paddle to the good spots from where I'm at.

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Well, I've now been here for 7 fall seasons. The reds were here for 1 of them. I know there were a few around the years before and after that season, but they weren't in like that one year. A trouter neighbor of mine said they got a handful late in the fall a couple of years ago when trout fishing, but I was a regular on the docks and other places we had gotten them that one year, and other than a few schools of rats so small it was child abuse to catch them, I didn't see a one worth catching. The year they were thick, they showed up in the early summer, and then schooled nicely by fall, with the most fun fishing for me in September when we found them in the North River in 6-12" of water and were getting them on 5-6" Gulp Jerk Shad on unweighted offset worm hooks. Blew out three prop sleeves doing that, but it was worth it. Most years for me, the chances of catching a big drum, 3' and over, were better than catching a 20" fish. Those big ones were accidental, though, and I couldn't tell you how to target them. Just hit the docks early in the year, and if they're there, it's on. That one year, I got my first ones from the Town Landing dock here in Mathews while checking out the croaker, and every decent dock had reds under it. Maybe global warming will help us out?

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The year they were here in droves was unreal I fished them all summer and had a blast chasing them inbetween the north and east on the grass flats. Hoping I have a reason to go fish the flats or oysterbeds this year Id like to get the nucanoe out there and fish the grass pockets and dont mind it for the croaker but I miss the drum being there like they were it made it alot of fun on light tackle. Still havent figured out dock fishing but in that year I learned how to find them in the grassy stuff.

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Well, if you need a reason to fish the grass flats, look no further than the speckled trout. They live there.

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And they know my lures like it's a joke my luck with them is awful I usually can't get away from the croaker which is why I tend to not try for the specks in the grass. I have better luck finding grey trout on the oyster beds but specks have a way of sucking my soul out

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Ha. They generally get the better of me, too, but I'm learning. I've done pretty well in the NC surf when they're there, but in the bay, they're tougher for me.

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I've been in RVA going on 7 years now so I know I'll botch the years, but I'm pretty certain five summers ago the reds were in thick. My friend who has lived out there for 18 years and another friend of mine who fishes for them a ton both agree that the puppies seem to cycle in good numbers through the middle of the Bay and Middle Peninsula. I generally believe this, but have heard of varying reports that make me question it.

Back to the five years go, they were definitely in thick. I recall a hurricane came up the coast and they left after. Much like happened with the big drum this year in the Neuse. Two years ago was a good year as well. I got several on fly on a certain flat in IFish's back yard. My buddies tore them up with spin gear. I returned throughout September and caught fish there and my last day there saw several more Oct 3rd. I remember it because it was the day after Tom Petty died. Pretty sure another storm came up the coast and they were gone thereafter.

With the 3 year cycle, last year there were not many reds, this year there will be a good amount of smaller fish in the 8-12" range. Next year will be the good year for a lot of fish in the perfect light tackle /fly rod size.

Reasons I'm wrong... There's always SOME reds around. I heard this summer there were lots of the 18-25 inch fish on the east side of the Bay. Chris Newsome was also catching a bunch of 35-40" fish in a very well known and visible spot. He was chumming them up from deeper water and getting them on big jigs and some deep flies. I also received a very credible report from early summer that Monday Creek was loaded with reds, but they wouldn't eat. This was confirmed at least once.

If I were you, I'd find a place they are known to frequent, i.e. Monday Creek, and fish it over and over unless you get a really good report for a spot elsewhere. I may post redfish porn all summer long, but it has taken me days and days and days to figure out the patterns. Once you do, you can consistently catch fish and have some ridiculous days, like 15 on the fly from 22-28".

Your other option is go join the guys that are figuring out the huge bull drum run in April down around the Bay Bridge / Fisherman's Island. That looks intense.

Global warming will help us briefly till it acidifies the oceans so much that most of the fish die. If they don't choke on plastic before.

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My family's place is on the east right across the river from Ifishs place so it's nice to be able to paddle out to the mobjack just gotta figure out my tackle and when the warmer weather hits I'll be giving it a go this year if anything I can find a few willing Croaker's to eat a fly and on a 5/6 I'd imagine they make it fun at least if I can't find anything else. I had best luck finding reds on a full moon cycle and the stronger the tides the better the bite plus if I found drum you'd catch a speck or two as well. Hopefully they'll be around this year now it would give me an alternative when the rivers are all muddy for smallmouth

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If you want a shot at the big red drum on an artificial (fly included), I would trailer a boat over to Kiptopeke, cruise due west to the buoys to the Inner Middle Ground, and fish for cobia. The last few summers, a big school of giant red drum has cruised around that area most of the year. Now, you have to find them and it is a lot of water to cover. However, when you do, they can be caught on a fly or any variety of spinning gear. I'd suggest going cobia fishing, and just making sure you keep a gold Gator spoon rigged up. I will defer to the experts on the fly gear. However, when I ran into them with the spinning gear, the boat fishing another pod near us was using fly gear and was hooking up consistently.

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I like the reverse strategy for fishing trick is if I try cobia fishing all I ever find are sharks, so on so forth. Kiptopeke is a lovely ramp and I can't usually get past trolling for flounder in that part of the bay or chasing sheepshead on the rocks. Only trick is I no longer have a large boat my dingy little John boat won't do well unless it's a dead flat day. Biggest fish on the fly is a small striper so I'll maybe hold off till I've tried fighting a smaller one of the reel before I go after the big drum but thanks for the info I'll hold onto it incase I get over there soon

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French, did you see them there?

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Yes- I was due west of the Peake out near the channel markers.

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Wow

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There was a pod of about 200 that size. Everyone got one and then we left them for the charter boat guy (who took the photo) to keep working them as long as his clients had the strength. Gold spoons were a hook up after a crank. They were very shy on all our orange and pink colored bucktails but after a couple of casts everyone got one.

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200 bull reds.... six to midnight

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Where can you catch reds this time of year?

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northeast florida...though if the warm weather continues, it'll be trout time soon.

SC has them. They're just in massive schools right now. If you put in the time and boat gas you'll find them eventually.

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Thanks gentlemen!

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True about the reds on the eastern side of the Bay. Also true that a couple of years ago there were reds caught by the trouters later in the fall. I think it was five years ago on the red invasion, but I don't think that was a regular cyclical thing, just an outlier year. This according to several locals who said it happens occasionally. Again, after only 7 seasons, I haven't gotten the measure of all the movements and yearly differences, and a couple of years ago in the fall I was pretty focused on flounder in the deep water across the Bay, and the couple of times I tried to find reds in the fall fell flat for me. Newsome gets fish because he is a good guide with thousands of hours on the water, and if anyone is going to find them, it's him. I am also not willing to do the chumming/jigging thing unless I have a good lead on where to do it, so I guess I need to start shadowing Chris, huh? (just kidding)

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Yep. I wish I had intel to find out where the big ones hang on the west side of the Bay. I have only run into them over at the IMG.

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This well decorated sea captain knows where they hang out on the west side of the Bay.

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Any good recommendations on a solid 5/6 wt fly rod?

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Have you tried fiberglass rods? Much slower action than graphite rods. Many choices of rods but really depends on your preference of fast or slow action.

Never used one with a slow action, my 4 weight bug rods from TFO are flexible as can be which is great for intermediate range easier and softer presentations but I've always tended to go fast action graphite rods

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What do you plan on using it for? That's going to help you decide on whether to get a 5 or a 6 and what rod depending on what it's action is.

I can recommend 10 rods that are either a 5 or 6 weight and they all do different things and cast differently. How do you plan on using it?

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Gonna be for clousers and more of an all round rod for freshwater stuff for bass and bream etc this will be what I'd use on the rivers for smallmouth since I don't feel I need my 8wt unless I'm on the new if that makes sense.
Might use it in Florida as well for mangroves snapper and smaller fish when I'm not hunting for snook with the bigger rod. I've found my 8 can throw a clousers okay but wonder if it would help to use a lighter rod for popping bugs and streamers for bream as well.
I just got an allen kraken 5/6 reel when I traded a few days electrical side work to for the reel so I feel I need to have something decent to match the reel at least since I'd like to use that reel and my 4/5 weights I have are old and real flimsy more for panfish and trout

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Alrighty, if you're going to toss it at smallmouth, you're going to want a 6 weight then. I'd recommend fast action.

If you can find a Sage Bolt, they are discontinued, jump all over it. I saw one for sale around $200 in a fly shop and wanted it so badly but didn't need two.

Greentop often has random sales on their rods, you may be able to find a deal there. I don't know what they've got in there right now or if anything is on sale. Would be good to do some casting with it and you can tell me what you like and don't like and I may be able to find a better deal for you for a similar rod.

Colton has a big sale going on with their 6 weight. I love how these rods cast and you can't beat the price. The owner is the guy who picks up the phone and he is talkative but great customer service.

http://www.coltonfly.com/slipstream.php

I've always been partial to St. Croix, the Legend Elite saltwater is a great rod. Not cheap, but not as expensive as Sage.

TFO is good, but I find their rods to be either super fast or medium action and I think you'll want a fast action, which would be in between.

Recently I cast an Echo and man oh man they are nice. The owner is one of the best casters in the world. Nice price point too.

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I might give the colton rods a go they look good I've seen you mention them a bunch and the reviews I've read are good ones thus far, any real difference in the regular and the XS line?

Ive got an echo ION XL for my 8 wt and love it great weight, casts fantastic and was a big bang for the buck. My TFO 4 weights are super soft which is fine for panfish and trout but not much else. Tried it for smallmouth a few years back and it was alot of fun but that quickly turned to stress when I started hooking smallies watching that rod bend and bend until I thought it might break.

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XS has a slightly softer tip. It won't cast as far but I am super accurate with my Tradewinds XS for redfish.

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Looks like I'll probably be getting the XS since I ordered a regular but they might be out so if they are they're gonna send me an XS for the price of the regular so life is looking good. Customer service is awesome so far!

Update: looks like i'll be getting the XS as it was all they had left and after talking to customer service sounds like a better fit for me since my double haul isnt perfect yet. Rod should be here this weekend I might get it out and practice a little even.

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New fly shop coming to Lynchburg. Ethan Martin is a Liberty grad and decided to take his fly fishing talents to the brick and mortar and is opening a shop in Lynchburg. Super, super nice guy. I plan on swinging through at some point.

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FlyGuy/Everyone,

I'm looking to keep a really basic set of flys on my boat for reds to start out. What patterns/sizes should I keep with me at all times. Most of the time I'm getting into slot sizes, with the occasional super duper bull that I notice in the channel.

Spin fishing I'm generally using swim bait/jerk bait and shrimp imitations so I imagine I'll want to have a streamer or two and some shrimp patterns but knowing really nothing about flies I'm not sure where to start.

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I'd imagine some clousers, for whatever is around some shrimp and crab patterns would be good as well

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black with some sparse gold or copper flash...in a clouser, slider, or deceiver

Wiggler will get the job done 90% of the time in 3 feet of water and less. Copper and Gold Colors. Black for winter.

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Heavily weighted crab or slider for tailers. Few bright, few natural. My favorite slider is a fly I call the Yellowstone Slider. I had 4 reds one day on that fly, all 27-30 inches. All tailing fish and they didn't want anything bright. I couldn't be happier with that fly.

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Suspending fly for spooky shallow water fish. Something like a saltwater Zonker. Mine is called The Egyptian Mule Driver. Also lightly weighted shrimp patterns, I throw a Coyote or Fox Shrimp.

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Searching patterns with light to medium weight... Clouser in size 2 with medium or light lead eyes. Chartreuse/white and black over orange are the only two colors you need. Deceiver in size 1/0 in grey or white to imitate a mullet. I like to fish an M4 fly for overcast searching as well in leiu of a Clouser. Same weight but sinks a little slower and better movement. You asked for basic so if you wanted basic, clouser and deceiver will catch them more often than not.

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Medium/heavy weight Chartruese / white or Grey Half and Half, size 2/0 for the bruiser in the channel.

Finally, a few Dupree spoon flies in orange and the darker brown color. All of them are gold on the inside. Best spoon fly I have found. I don't tie these but you can find them online in a bunch of different colors. I'm sure they all work, those are just the colors I'm partial to.

You could fish an entire summer with 2-3 each of those patterns in a box. If you need any tied up, let me know. I guarantee they work!

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you have an excellent sense for saltwater color patterns...let me know when you decide to tie some jigs.

While flyguy would undoubtedly produce some fine, professional looking jigs that I'm certain would fish well, tying jigs is not rocket science, and I'm sure you can do it. I am sloppy and the opposite of meticulous with most things requiring dexterity and exacting production, but I learned long ago that many of the jigs I needed weren't commercially available or were too expensive to be a realistic approach for me. Walleye did this to me when I needed to replicate, and slightly revise jigs made locally in Tennessee but unavailable to me in the NRV. While I started out buying pre-painted jig heads and just tying the tails, I still had trouble finding exactly what I needed. It really is a simple thing to pour jigs with a reasonably small investment, and painting them isn't hard with the heat, dip and dry method. Tying the tails is pie simple and can be done with a minimum of fly tying stuff. After that, it's just a matter of assembling your materials and color preferences, enabling you to create and use the imagination. While I still occasionally dabble in tying jigs, I haven't found it too necessary here in the Bay, since the type of jig I prefer (Spro, usually) is commercially available and so nicely painted and tied that I couldn't quite match the look and the price, while a bit high, is worth it for the small number I use and lose. I also have found them easy to refresh when the tails are getting sparse. Soft plastics, especially Gulp, have replaced the majority of the jigs I would likely use here, with the exception of schooling striper fishing, when I get right to the Spro and don't look back.

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Thank you! I can absolutely tie jigs and have done some orders of them. That giant bull drum, 30 plus pounds, I caught last fall was on my own hand tied jig. It sits retired on a picture frame along with a bunch of other retired flies, mostly redfish patterns.

I don't pour the heads or anything but I can buy them and tie the rest of it in any material and color combo.

As Ifish says below, it isn't hard, but I have found plenty of jigs that the bucktail comes out. There are some bucktail tricks that will really lock it in and I'd be happy to share them. See HokieNators flies above on his improvement from using my techniques after a few 7 minute videos.

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I can attest following flyguys tying can work wonders I'm not very knowledgeable on the subject but can do well enough to get by.
I do however mess with pouring plastics and have dabbles with making jig heads it's easy enough and a fun hobby to try and make you're own stuff.

Do It has alot of really handy stuff for making your own jigs all the way from hooks to paint they have it all for DIY tackle. They're who I get my molds from everything else I get wherever I can find it. Eventually I want to start building my own buzz baits the ones on the current market are all big for smallmouth and termination used to have the perfect size and no longer carries it so soon I'm gonna start doing my own to get that exact size back.

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I agree with you, many jigs aren't tied right and lose the bucktail with little provocation. Some aren't painted well enough and get chips and dings without earning them on rocks or docks. While I've been lucky with Spro, I know a guy who quit using them several years ago because of the tails not holding up. The one I used my last trip out with 3rdGen got the tail pecked out over the day's fishing, but that was because I was being absolutely eaten up with the dinkiest of the dinky schoolies out there, and they were grabbing my trailer and some tail, but weren't big enough fish to get to the hook. My sets were pulling the tail out and by day's end, it was in need of refreshment, to say the least. I'd like to view your tutorial on tying the bucktail, I'm interested in what you do there.

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Last time I tried to upload to Youtube it didn't work from my phone. I'll attempt again this weekend with the old school way I did last time.

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I'll be keeping an eye to see if the videos get up to YouTube the ones you sent me have timed out so keep us posted I was gonna tie some more this weekend now that I finally have a whip finisher thank the Lord

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I tied these a couple years ago (and have caught fish on them) when I couldn't find the colors I wanted; but I want a more professional look and I like some of your patterns.

Those look pretty good to me. Did you paint the heads, too?

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no, commercial heads i sometimes use for gulp.

it's a bit of a pain to nip the "barbs" designed to hold the plastic/gulp off to get the heads ready for tying.

i don't fish bucktails very much so it's hard to justify gearing up to do it when someone like Flyguy already has the material, knowledge, and skills to do it much better. I'd rather ship him some heads and have him work his magic on some color patterns.

edit: thinking about it, I probably tied those 6 years ago...time flies

edit 2: that orange over brown with the copper and teal flash (second from the bottom) would be even better in a white head with holographic red eyes and some glitter in the paint. bounced on old rangia shell bars in the lower St Johns its a killer...and the old guy who used to make something like that is long dead

I totally get it, and he is a pro at what he does. I bought a lead "nipper" for want of a better word, just for taking out the bait holding barb in order to tie onto pre-painted jig heads, and it wasn't too hard, just a pain getting the barb and the extra lead off the hook clear to the head. I also agree with you about gearing up for something seldom used. I have a lot of stuff left over from my guiding days that I can use, but I still prefer to buy the Spros for convenience and because I can't make them that well. My biggest issue when I was tying walleye jigs was getting the right size and style hook on the right size head, prompting me to pour and tie my own, but I guarantee if I could've just bought them, I certainly would have. Like you, though, now that I'm in the salt, I pretty much only use bucktails for schooling stripers, and adding a trailer is all I need to do.
Please show us what flyguy does for you. One thing for certain, they're gonna look really good. He's got the touch.

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Thank you for the compliments.

As far as that lead barb goes, nothing my bench grinder can't handle.

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Dave, shoot me an email.... knotthereelworld@gmail.com and we can figure something out. I can easily make those.

Orange over brown with copper and teal sounds like an interesting combo, I'm going to tie a fly with that and will post.

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will do

Thanks for the advice, I'll hit you up on IG and work something out for you to tie me up some.

Don't put that kind of guarantee out there, you've never seen me fly fish....

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Sounds good!

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9 lbs. 8 oz. Give her a couple more weeks and she's well over 10! Damn, I almost checked something off my bucket list. Should have gotten a pic of her maw. Totally inhaled a 6" jerk bait.

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That's some seriously thick fishing line

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Nice job, Musky. Your private pond?

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500# test Fly. I had to weigh big mama and the scale was in the garage. Took a boat line to use as a stringer.

Fish I am on a private lake. Really the only type of place you can catch BIG bass anymore.

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Yeah, I hear ya. Still and all, nice fish. Are you going to mount it?

Edit: I know, I know...phrasing, huh?

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No she is still swimming. If I ever get one over 10. I might have a replica done. What I really want is a 50" + musky.

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Props on the C&R. I look at older fish skin mounts and they do not age well. Fiberglass reproduction is the way to go

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Concur. I had a big crappie mounted in the mid '80s, and the guy was a master. It still looked good when I left it in my old place in Giles. Most of the old mounts I've seen, though, are anywhere from dull to ratty. One and only mount for me, won't do another.

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Having a good private pond is like a unicorn these days just wish we could get the big boys in our pond a little fatter these days

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It really is. How big is your pond?

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We have a chain of a few ponds feeding each other the main ones 5 acres and stuffed with bass we've started trying to think them out a little to help with over population

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Thats awesome

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Yup we have just bass Pike and bream in it with shiners and other small fish for food piles of cover for them as well to keep them safe as well so they thrive on the frogs in the pads it's fun to take a braid rod and go frogging in the spring

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New fly vise and getting the hang of clousers to 15 minutes per one. Excited to try out the orange bottom copper flash and olive body

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put a hint of teal flash in with that copper on the orange one...you will be happy

Didnt even think of that option maybe even a little copper silver and teal flash for a bream look?

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Just spent the day at a saltwater fishing seminar down in Morehead City, NC. My brain is full and ready to put some time in on the water. Chopper blues are around the corner for salt. Shad should be even sooner in the river.

If the rain settles down, Shad will be in the Potomac in 3-4 weeks. Earliest I have caught one was March 17th.

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Shad should be in the rivers in NC very, very soon.

A few years back they had those 10 pound blues in NC. That would be fantastic to see again.

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Year before last, they showed up in Delaware in April. Only about 140 miles for me.

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I've seen pics of shad in NC rivers from Neuse River sport shop. I think the blues have shown up the past few years just have a short window when they are more schooled up. He was using a 6" popper so it makes it harder for the blue to swallow the whole thing and cut off your leader.

When I was a young guy, those big blues were pretty common, especially at the OBX, with lots of fish closer to 15 lbs than 10. They would crash the surf and the piers and we'd get them on Hopkins and Gator spoons. Thing is, those big fish are anything but leader shy, and wire leaders were absolutely imperative since a hooked fish usually had his buddies nipping at the lure hanging out of his mouth on the fight. I can think of no good reason not to be using steel if chopper blues are involved. We used black leaders when we could get them, for the same reason, blues would hit the shine of the snap swivel at the main line, but we didn't hesitate to use silver ones if necessary. We usually had a popper or two in the box, but could cast the metal farther out, which was usually necessary to get to the moving schools, and the spoons cost less than the poppers as well. The Chesapeake was full of those big fish back in the '70s, as well, when there were no stripers to be had anywhere, but as the stripers returned, the blues waned. Most Bay folks would tell you they were more than happy with the trade, but I'll admit I did have a good time with those big bad boyz.

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The couple guides I've heard talk about it weren't huge on using wire leader. I need to listen to one of those podcast again. The reason for the popper over the spoon is that they were fishing in shallow water so it was tougher to keep a heavy spoon off the bottom. Obviously the spoon with the wire leader would work too. Yeah people in the bay worship those stripers.

I'd love to get them on poppers, for sure, but other than the surf and in deeper water in the Bay back in the day, I've not encountered chopper blues, certainly not in shallow water. I get the leader thing, I don't like them either, but some fish, like muskies, are not focusing on anything but the lure and the leader isn't a deterrent to the bite. Or, enough of a deterrent to make it necessary to avoid metal. I am pretty much of a fanatic about light line and fluorocarbon leaders, etc., when fishing for wary fish, so I do get the aversion. That top water bite is pretty cool, though, and maybe they have more of a leader shy proclivity on the top or in the shallower water, dunno. I have caught them on a strip of a t-shirt I tore up during one blitz when I got too far from my box chasing the school and broke off my spoon on a hurried cast with only a bottom rig and a weight in my pocket. I caught a couple that way until I hooked up with two at once on the rig/t-shirt strips and they broke my 20 lb test at the knot. Those choppers are incredible.

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The guide was targeting them on the shoals and said when it was sunny you could sightcast to them. Pretty cool story about catching them on a t-shirt strip. I'm hoping that I can get one this spring.

Did he give a time of the year? The reds will show up in the shoals in April

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Month of April, scatter out more in May, gone by early June.

Cool, thank you

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Yep, I'm making it a priority to get down there for at least a few days. Also if you need someone to test out that reef spot with AJs, I would happily help you out :)

I don't catch a lot of blues but every time someone talks about them I remember the one that was entirely dead when we got it to the boat last year.

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Video on how to tie a Clouser. The techniques I used for tying in the deer hair will work on any streamer or jig for securing bucktail. Make two loose wraps over it while pinching with your "materials hand." Tighten down and make two tight wraps in an X fashion and then 2-4 more tight wraps moving forward. That will lock it in and will not move. Do a few more wraps if you want, but remember, less wraps is better. The key is being efficient at them. Pull 10 butt hairs back and make 2 tight wraps in front of them. Continue this process until you get through all of the butts, leaving a mohawk to trim off. This really locks the hair in and also leaves only a small amount of the butts to tie down, making a small, neat head.

Questions?

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truly outstanding video!

Thanks!

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Video is awesome and the live feeds you do on social media are great as well never thought I'd be able to tie a fly without some proper guidance. Thanks for putting it up where we can go back and use it when we need it!

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Sure thing man, thanks for checking in!

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That one last night was great, I was wasted though so my review might be generous.

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My flies always look better when you're wasted

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People always say that about my cooking as well dunno why

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Your dad's cooking, on the other hand, needs no enhancement, at least in my limited experience.

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Need advice. Friend is wanting to go offshore out of the Outer Banks in late August. Suggestions? What species would be good to target and any recommendations on boats to seek out? Thanks in advance.

French should have some good advice for you.

Offshore? Late August/Early September is white marlin season. If he has a spot open, The Pelican would be my first choice (Oregon Inlet.) Be forewarned, any Oregon Inlet boat will be about $2000, not including tip.

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Thanks! I'll let him know to be prepared if he goes that direction.

Any other options if this guy doesn't care about chasing the number one target species for that time of year? Other than telling him to dunk bait in the surf, I have no idea what is available In August, whether in the surf, inshore charter, or offshore.

Thanks again!

I'm not an offshore kinda guy, myself, though it is an experience everyone should have at least once. For me, once was enough. Old friend charters out of Oregon Inlet, everyone knows him as "Creature". His boat is The Outlaw. I've never fished with him, but if I were looking, I'd give him a shot because I know the kind of guy he is. Bit of a hard charger, but he'll be going the extra mile for you according to the friends we have in common that have fished with him.
I would suggest an inshore charter, with a variety of fish being available with lighter tackle and for a more hands on experience than the mate/captain driven offshore trip. It sure won't cost 2 grand, but depending on how many anglers are involved, space on an inshore charter might not be available. I fished with DOA charters one February for stripers, and he showed us pics of his inshore summertime stuff. I'd go with him again.
Just me, though. And since he's there, dunking bait in the surf in August is usually going to produce something, unless he intends to only fish the charter.

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August is a weird transitional time. Early in the month, it can be dead although you will see cobia on an east wind off the piers. The E/NE becomes a little more prevalent in the second half of the month, as the numbers of bluefish and spanish pick up a little. SW wind is deader than Warren G. Harding, and that is prevailing especially early in the month, so you are really at the mercy of those winds. Now, if you want to go down to Hatteras, I have always heard that pompano (using a river rig and live sand fleas) fishing can be awesome, with some really big 1-2 pounders available. I have never tried it though- every pompano I have caught has been in the process of targeting something else, and all but one (which hit a gotcha plug) was small.

The white marlin fishing is awesome, but it is usually at it's peak close to the end of the month into early September. I have wanted to try it for years because a billfish is the only bucket list fish I have left that I don't have to travel much further to catch. I just have not had the time (that is peak work travel for me) to go.

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Big drum on the neuse river/pamlico sound in August.

If he wants to play inshore for redfish that time of the year with him and one other guest, I'll be guiding down that way this summer. (Not to sound self-serving.) It doesn't have to be a fly trip. If he wants to sight cast to redfish inshore around Oregon Inlet, I got it. If he wants to go out of Morehead City we can fish inshore and near shore the same day, barring any crazy weather. I've been informed of a spot for kings, amberjack and giant cuda just two miles off the beach and I ain't skerred to try it in the Hewes. I'll be figuring it out in July when I'm down there for a week. We could also spend the day looking for bull reds in the Neuse.

As noted below, offshore fishing is expensive as hell and long rides in and out. I do it on occasion with my buddy in Morehead and while he's obsessed, I'm usually relieved and dog tired to step back on dry land again. It's rough going 50 miles out only to have the mate hook the fish for you and crank and crank on a 7 pound blackfin that barely even fights on a rod thicker than a broom handle. There is something about being out in the big blue ocean though. You'll see some wild shit.

I'd be happy to talk to him about what I can offer and expectations if he is interested.

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Thanks everyone for the info. Very helpful. Fly guy, I'll pass on the offer and see what he thinks. I have your email so I'll reach out to discuss. That sounds a great deal more fun than the offshore experience.

Thanks again!

Sounds good!

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Just wanted to add to my thoughts on chartering. I really loved the boat ride, nice 60' Hatteras, and the deep blue sea of the Gulf Stream was visually impressive. But add the boat ride out, and the boat ride in, and that day long charter becomes something less actually fishing-wise. Add in the fact that we caught exactly one fish all day, a citation bull dolphin that two of us caught after it ate two baits, and it wasn't as exciting as many trips can be. That meant that four out of the six of us never held a rod, and ended up drunk and snoozing the whole trip. Be aware, also, that those charter captains can have personal and business agendas that don't necessarily jibe with your personal interests on a given charter. Side bets with other captains, season long tournaments and goals can influence what the captain chases, or chooses not to chase, again, regardless of the desire of the anglers. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, but can influence their approach. I personally want to be involved with the actual fishing, not just the sit in the chair and be handed a rod with a fish already hooked up, sometimes after teasing by the mate. The Bay charter, while not an offshore run, I went on last summer was a good example. We fished for about two hours, rode for more than four, and while we caught 7 cobia, we anglers didn't hook a one of them, as they were handed to us by the mate. Fun, for sure, but, again, just not my style.

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This is such a hard thing to find with a lot of charters. I understand it takes a little effort to ask for the customers expectations and lot of trust for them to handle gear but I agree with just about everything you said.

I can't remember the charter we took out of Hatterass but we trolled around for wahoo and caught 7, stopped for a bit and did some light tackle tuna jigging and managed a couple, that along with the mahi we picked up and twitch jigged for when they surfaced we ended up with about 10 fish we kept between 4 of us. It was a good experience and that was a lot of fish after processing but that was really the break even point on being worth it for me. If the day had been slower, I wouldn't have considered it worth the money/time. I learned a lot and the first mate was fantastic, saw my interest in fishing. explained everything he was doing, why he was doing it, the industry, etc.

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And I agree with your take, as well. I was a tagalong on a trip with friends who'd been out with that captain several times, so I wasn't a "regular" and while the mate was an ok guy, he wasn't forthcoming, or personable enough to afford me conversation. I stayed on deck almost the entire day, saw three bills behind the baits that the captain and mate missed because things had gotten so monotonously boring, and when I called their attention to the bills I saw, they glanced back, but otherwise ignored me, I believe because of my enthusiasm for the trip and "newcomer" status. The captain also ignored our request to maybe cast to some likely floating debris for smaller dolphin that were certainly around. He was focused on billfish and billfish alone. There were six of us, and the lone 35 lb dolphin didn't go too far, but it wasn't the lack of groceries that turned me off. The captain was, however, quite insistent that we apply for our citation, both of us. She did, I didn't. Sue me.

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Very excited! Going back here Aug 6th!

LOTWs! That 50" musky is out there waiting!

Musky and Walleye!

This truly is The Coolest Place on Earth

A funny story behind this pic is I kept catching NP that morning and the guide kept saying yep this one has spots too just to hack me off I got my 44" musky that afternoon. It is a long trip up but the journey is half the adventure..

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Damn I need to go there

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I've been trying to get April Vokey up there for years now! I can always try to find you a spot Fly!

I just can't find the words to explain how awesome Centre Island South is!

Anyway Fly, when are gong to get together for a beer and a shot?

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Love April, she's awesome. She did a class years ago down near Blacksburg. I was not able to go as I'm not female, but I would love to fish with her and pick her brain. Her podcast is fantastic.

I really would like to check out Canada and fish a place with giant smallmouth, pike, musky and brook trout. I need to set a "to do by" date.

I'm down for drinks whenever! My favorite socializing and drinking location is a little place called Tots in a little town called Blacksburg. But I'm certainly open to other locales.

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I thought you were in RVA?

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Hey Musky, don't you know? Flyguy is a footloose, fancy free frat man of the world!

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Professional Gentleman of Leisure if you will...

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Rumor has it I own a house and store all of my toys there, so yes, you could say it's my home base. Happy to drink beer in the Capital City as well!

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I've even seen a wild Flyguy in my office parking lot in RVA

Pictures or it didn't happen!

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Maybe we should have a RVA prespawn hoist a drink in the area? I'm in Mechanicsville.

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Pick a couple of dates and I'll see if I (and others) can make it happen.

Brewery?

My favorite establishment is Post Bellum in the fan. Awesome rooftop, great beer and drink selection, not very many hipsters and generally there are some attractive females in there.

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Post Bellum in the fan. Awesome rooftop, great beer and drink selection, not very many hipsters and generally there are some attractive females in there.

This is exactly how I named Post Bellum my favorite place in Richmond.

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Flash a free bucktail around and you can get me to crawl out of my basement every now and then.

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Serious question for the serious flyguy: Is there any tying difference between bucktail and doetail?

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I have not a clue whether the tails I get are from bucks or from does. I think they are all called buck tails. The freebie I got from my friend Ryan came off of a doe. It is good clouser hair, soft and kinky.

Hair throughout the tail has varying qualities for the type of fly being tied. For instance hair at the base of the tail is generally more hollow and straight than at the tip, where it's usually softer and kinky. The hollow hair will flare more under thread pressure, the kinky hair not so much. Tails are all unique, so some are good for some applications and others, for another. Some seemingly have a ton of hollow hair. The free one I got is essentially all kinky hair.

Bucktails from northern deer are generally bigger and more full than southern deer. They go for a higher price usually. Interestingly enough, five years ago, you could buy a bucktail for $4. Now I rarely see them below $7. Quite the inflation.

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Never been the flguy, but have tied more than my share for work purposes. I always saved my deer tails, most of which were does, and truly couldn't tell the difference between buck and doe, but did, indeed, notice the differences you mentioned. Luckily, I didn't tie enough to worry about it. While I loved venison, and used to really enjoy hunting, I was always too lazy to spend the effort to hunt trophies, and young does tasted so damn good.

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Is there any tying difference between bucktail and doetail?

I will not..I will not ..I will not comment on this...

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I figured someone would find a way to do this. Leg.

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I got a good chuckle out of it. :)

Musky, I owe you a phone call — been distracted with a new job the last couple weeks.

Hokie fan | W&M grad

Think I need to start tying during tech basketball games since I started theyre 2-0 while I tie flies. The mohawk trick in Flyguys video is a hell of a trick to help people like me that cant get their clouser heads to stay small. Tied all these on Allen #2 streamer hooks I couldnt find any of the Mustad 34007s at greentop last weekend again.

Also getting my Kraken reel in today whats a good line for 6 weight? Got my colton 6XS in and man does it feel smooth had a heart attack when the box showed up all mashed and messed up but luckily the contents were safe and sound.

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nice work!

i had never seen the mohawk trick...cures a lot of ills

edit: do i see a hint of blue flash in that far clouser?

My heads were bit on the large side when I tried how most people do it but watching fly guys video I hadnt seen it done that way anywhere else and it adds an extra few seconds but makes the tips way neater and easier to thread over.

And I found some silver flash that has a hint of blue in it it seems but its labeled as silver flash so dunno. Gonna tie some blue flash bream looking clousers this weekend if I have time with a mix of a couple flash colors.

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The blue krystal flash that I LOVE is called herringbone. I think it is the best flash color I've ever found. Green top has it

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Thats exactly what I have been using as my silver flash accidentally guess I lucked out!

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had a heart attack when the box showed up all mashed and messed up

Did it come in one of those triangle USPS boxes? My 8wt from them came in a box that looked like it had gone through a wood chipper. I just looked at it as a QC test of their rod tube.

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Yup had a mini stroke when I saw how the box looked thankfully the tubes were unscathed and packed with wrapping paper. I was looking for a million stamps on the box cause it looked like it had been all over the world.

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Glad you got that rod! You know my favorite line....

www.saltwaterflies.com has a bunch of 34007s

I'm sure Amazon does too

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I'll give them a look gotta get stuff to make schminnows and other flies next my clouser bin is getting full.

I'm gonna see what greentop has for 6WF and go from there the redfish line has work wonders thus far for me so I'll probably go that route again if they make it that light.

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They do indeed make a 6 weight. FYI, don't get the Rio smallmouth line. I owned two and they both sucked

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Ill probably go that route only other lines I was looking at was the inbound outbound saltwater freshwater lines or the big nasty lines I like the big heads to help me with my double hauling its easier for me to feel when to come forward atleast.

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Here ya go Dave, my fly version of your jig color combo... Yellowstone Slider where I substituted Icelandic Sheep hair (the orange) for coyote. Rest of the fly is fox fur, buffalo hair head and red eyes with blue, pink and yellow crystal flash, as well as copper flash on the interior of it. I tied this on a 3/0 for Louisiana redfish, hence the blue, pink and yellow.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BubkRR1jaO-/

Critiques / suggestions welcome.

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I like it! For my purposes I'd bury a little more flash (copper or gold) in the orange for reds...this is a fish that loves to hit metal spoons and spinner blades so visibility is a big deal. But I'd fish that color pattern in low turbidity, tannin stained water all day...or really anywhere rootbeer or new penny would be the choice in a soft plastic.

I've been looking for (buying and testing) jig heads that will do what I want for a bucktail and have not yet found one.

For slow retrieves, it needs to sit upright on the bottom EVERY TIME and hook needs to angle up off the bottom from the head...kind of a partial stand up jig. For faster retrieves, it must be reasonably efficient moving thru the water.

Must have 3D eyes or a place for them to be glued on.

Must have relatively little lead on the hook shank.

The Slayer destroyer jig head

https://slayerinc.com/products/#!/Destroyer-XXX-Jig-Heads/p/812028/categ...

does everything except the hook shank lays flat on the bottom. DOA and Saltwater Assassin pro elite angle up a little but the head tends to fall over on its side (hate it when that happens, lol!)

there are a couple of brands that make "banana" or triangular shaped teardrop heads that could have eyes added that I need to check out.

meanwhile, my fishing buddies need not buy any jig heads as a result of my ocd tendencies...just keep throwing into the oysters!

Thanks, that photo actually shows very little of the flash. There is more at the base of the orange hiding under the fox fur.

I couldn't help you on the jig heads, I get the cheapo ones and use 'em till I lose 'em and then open a new pack when I spin fish in the sale.

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I have ordered some 1/4 oz Hurricane banana heads and some eyes. if I'm happy with them, I'll get with you for some projects

Sounds good!

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So nobody in the area sells W6F summer redfish line so I'm gonna try the Rio saltwater/freshwater outbound line and see how it handles and if it stinks I'll return it can't wait to hit the water tomorrow the damn beavers have clogged some pipes and I've gotta dig them out

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You have beaver problems too? They are a PITA! We have trapped 5-6 this winter and they keep coming.

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Look on the bright side. If you have beaver problems, then you have water to manage. Count yourselves lucky in that regard.

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Question for heuplek or any other electrically knowledgeable folk here. I have finally upgraded from a defunct Lowrance (16-17 yrs old) to a newer Hook 2 Lowrance and will be installing it myself (yeah, likely a bad idea) because it seems so straightforward. I can reuse my transducer bracket, so that's a plus not having to drill the hull, but the power wire they provide is too short to reach back to the battery and I don't want to use my switch panel for the power source, but prefer to go straight to the battery instead. Now, I know how to perform routine connections with heat shrink connectors, etc. and I always top that off with wraps of electrical tape I then "melt" with plumbers pvc glue. This doesn't fail. My thought is to run purchased wire from the battery up to the dash and make the connections to the power cord up there for accessibility to the connections just in case and for future access. My question is this: Since the supplied wires for the power connection are so damn tiny, owing, I assume to the small amount of power necessary to run the unit, can I run a bit heavier wire up to the front than the wire it will connect to? Will this have any effect, help or hinder-wise on the unit? Of course, I'll have an in-line fuse located at the battery, but I really don't want my ignorance to cause a problem. Learning to use the new fangled tech stuff (gps, navionics) that comes with it will be challenge enough for me, I'd like to at least get it hooked up right. Suggestions?

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heavier gauge wire has correspondingly less resistance and will more efficiently carry current from the source to wherever it is needed

So if it is okay to connect the short small wire directly to the battery, it is okay to connect it to heavier wire. Heavier wire is also better for covering longer distances because length adds resistance and reduces efficiency.

...no I'm not an electrician and you may not take this info to the bank...they will not cash it.

Yes you can do this. Use tinned marine wire and a step down heat shrink connectors, with some dielectric grease and you'll never have to worry about corrosion.

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Dielectric grease is the bomb, for sure. I bought a tube about 20 years ago for camper light bulb maintenance and though I use it at least once a year, I'm still on that first tube.
I haven't thought about the tinned marine wire, though. Seems like the way to go. Thanks!

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Lazy as I am, I just pushed a few buttons and for 10$ and shipping got just what I need. Again, thanks. While the site had way too much information for me to process, it was super easy to order the right amount and I feel a lot better about the wiring now. I wasn't looking forward to running all around here in the country trying to find the right stuff, and probably paying more for it.

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A good question to answer Fish; is the provided harness braided wire or solid. Daveinop seems to have it down. The reason I ask is that braided carries current more efficiently than solid.

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dave's practical experience is properly matching his bass speakers and amplifiers, and matching his generator outputs to his house wiring.

usually when I work on a boat something bad happens

Thank you both. I sorta intuited that, but I'm so often so wrong that I thought it worth the asking. Thanks!

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Well I have been involved in 2 boat fires and both electrical. Just saying.

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yeah, i tried to do that...note that I only explained a little bit of physics and didn't offer any advice whatsoever on wiring a switch

But did those boat fires have a dancing wacky arm man and are you secretly danny devito?

via GIPHY

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Maybe this diagram will help. It did for me

http://newboatbuilders.com/images/circuit6.jpg

Electricity is not my forte

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Water was frigid on saturday it never got up like I was hoping and the fish were very very lethargic, caught a few on salamanders, spent most of the time cursing beavers exhistence and pulling wood from the pipe. The water was not very refreshing and they had the pipe almost completely submerged. Time to engineer up a cage to go over it and a heat seeking infared turret to mount on the cage. Had the pipe rocking from all the water heading down and out once I got the logs out of the way never had the pipe move so much from air pockets.

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Our only national champions and this is how they are treated.

"This year, with a sudden change in legislation, the university prohibited our longtime use of the VT symbol on team jerseys and will fund no part of our organization. "

Do you have a link?

Just add this to the list of reasons I won't donate to the University or join the Hokie Club.

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It was a Go fund Me. Wasn't sure if I could link that here

Found the GoFundme. Here is what it says:

"The Bass Fishing Team at Virginia Tech (BFTVT) was started in 2007 and took the bass fishing nation by storm, winning the National Championship in grand fashion. To date, we hold Virginia Tech's only team National Championship. It's our claim to fame! We were underdogs then but have since risen to be recognized as a team with unquestionable potential on the water. Since 07', our club has fluctuated in member numbers and competitiveness in intercollegiate tournaments, but our club has managed to live on and has recently revitalized to peak performance. As of 2014, the team began working closely with the university, acquiring limited funding for a few Spring tournaments. This aid showed immediate success as over 10 teams in the past three years have qualified for births at National Championships, including many top ten finishes and a big win at the Smith Mountain Lake FLW event in 2016. We have 51 members and roughly 17 boaters, making us one of the largest collegiate-bass teams in the nation.

This year, with a sudden change in legislation, the university prohibited our longtime use of the VT symbol on team jerseys and will fund no part of our organization. Our team members are now all self-funded, meaning we front the costs of gas, lodging, licenses, fees, and food to compete in FLW, BASS, and Boat US events held at broad-geographic ranges spanning from Arkansas and Louisiana to New York and Michigan. Fundraising events and online merchandise sales are the only things keeping our teams on the water right now but even so, our team account is running low and participation is dwindling fast. If we can not find an alternative source of funding, the future of the BFTVT is uncertain."

This drop in university support caught us all off guard, yet we choose to stand tall and continue proudly representing our Hokie Nation. It is an honor to be a Hokie Bass member therefore we are determined to maintain this collegiate opportunity so that future Hokies may enjoying the great outdoors and water resources our well managed-freshwater impoundments provide at competitive levels.

Link

I wonder if the other clubs are in the same boat, no pun intended. I know club lax has some pretty expensive dues, or at least did when I was in college. Would be interesting to find out if the "legislation" was by state law or something in the University.

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My brother was on the Clay Target team. I'm pretty sure they (the team members) covered all expenses that weren't covered by sponsors.

The University is under no obligation to support them, financially. The use of a logo should be allowed though.

I agree 100%. Don't fund them, fine. But they're obviously wanting to represent the university in a positive and competitive light, so why deny them the use of logo. Fuckin lawyers...(No offense intended to present company)

I was on the Clay Target team back in the day and can assure you we paid our own way. While I wasn't one of them, we had a couple of guys that placed nationally and represented the university well. We were able to use the VT logo however and everyone just had matching team polo's and khakis for uniforms. *sigh* Those were the days.

Thanks for the info.

I can't believe the University won't let them use the logo for the only team Natty sport we have...

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Yeah that seems pretty Busch League. I don't see the issue given it's an official club or team sport. I could see if it was just some students claiming to represent the university. One would think they'd embrace this 100%.

It's so bad that it doesn't even rise to the level of Busch. I'd rate it more in the PBR league, myself. Hell, even bush leaguers have uniforms!

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This is probably my favorite thread or subject on this site. Very few hot takes and arguments. I love it and I hate it at the same time. It has finally cost me money. I fly fished years ago and have decided to get back into it. I bought a 6 wt Colton rod and need a reel now but don't know much about them. I looked at some used reels on ebay but again don't know anything about them. There seemed to be a lot of Orvis bettenkill reels and I saw a Sage 1680 that seemed like a pretty good deal. I will primarily be fishing for smallmouth bass on the Tye river and for trout in that area. Let the advice rain down on me. Thanks

My reels are almost always just line holders. Like 99% of the time. I don't think I've ever fought a trout on the reel and maybe only a couple smallmouth. I typically just get something affordable and serviceable, choosing to spend more money on my rod and line.

Others here can, and probably will, offer better advice.

Good luck. It's a great sport.

Well, as someone who agrees with your take on this thread, I offer our condolences. You will be given every chance to spend all of your money on whatever you ask about. I will say this about fly reels, then give the floor to the tekkies and professional, but for me, fly reels are just about line management until you're fishing for fish that'll tax your gear. Most fly fishing doesn't involve that. Your long ass rod will wear down most fish, and the reel is mainly for holding the line. I have an Orvis Battenkill and love it. I have cheaper reels, and love them. You don't need bells and whistles for what you have outlined, and used will definitely be ok and allow you to at least consider those bells and whistles, but from my perspective, I'd go with mid-line, mod-priced and not be afraid of an off brand. G'luck, and I'm sure much more competent advice will, indeed, rain down on ye.

Edit: Should've waited for wildturkey. Said it much more succinctly. I am known for verbal overrun. Sorry.

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Welcome back to the addiction! Question for you, did you buy the Colton off of my recommendation to others on here? The reason for me asking is purely selfish, the owner of Colton said he will give me a fly rod for free if enough folks buy them off of my recommendations. I am not, however, a schmuck who simply hawks them for the sake of getting a free rod. I found their company ten years ago, liked what I saw and took a flier on an unknown company and that rod is still my best rod for teaching clients and chasing tailing redfish, as well as some smallmouth guiding. It casts better than some of my Sages. The owner is a bit whacky, but nice guy and total fish bum.

As far as reels go, others have said they are glorified line holders and for freshwater, indeed they are. Very rarely will you ever need to get a fish on the reel in freshwater. I am not a fan of Orvis reels, but they do work fine. I love Redington reels. I do not recommend some of these off the wall made in China brands found on Ebay and Amazon. Allen, Lamson, Ross are all good too and going up in the higher end of freshwater reels. Sage reels are well made. You may want to consider getting a mid or large arbor, but that's only if you want to reel up line faster. If you're just getting back into the game, I doubt you'll notice a difference. I think that Sage is a large arbor. 100 yards of 40 or 60 pound braided fishing line will suffice for backing. Spend the $$$ on a quality fly line. Most folks skimp on the line and get the cheapest they can because they are scared to spend $70-100 on a good line, but trust me, it makes a world of a difference casting. If you take care of it, it will last you five years.

If you need advice on flies, I'm also happy to help.

As far as money goes, just remember, fly fishing is cheaper than golf. Until you buy a boat....

I have yet to fish the Tye River and need to make it happen!

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Hold on. If I golf, got into fly fishing, and have a boat am I gonna go bankrupt???

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if you are married, yes.

if not, you can (and likely will) live in your pickup truck or the cart shed with your dog

edit: golf/fishing was my thing til my tendons said "no more golf for you". that's when I picked up the bass guitar.

I financed my golf habit for years by sanding the divots at the driving range of a decent nearby community club in exchange for unlimited use of the range and unlimited golf in non-peak hours.

Jesus, golf is my other hobby. My thinking was my hand will be the drag on the reel for freshwater so I wouldn't need a super duty reel. HFG I did let the guy at Colton know about your recommendation didn't know your name but told him about your Instagram handle. I have land on the Tye near the Amherst and Nelson county line. There's a lot of smallmouth in there just not very big it's a great day float in all but the driest summer months when the water is low in spots. I just have a camper up there right now and hoping to build a cabin soon. Thanks for helping me clarify my thoughts boys.

I lived on the Nelson side of Afton mountain for almost ten years and have fished the Tye many times. From the top where it's a trout stream, to the James, it is a pretty nice stream, and like you said, lots of smallmouth. My friend Chuck Kraft and I used to fish it a lot for his wife's requests for a fish dinner back before he became a "famous" fishing guide and all of a sudden realized he shouldn't be killing his employees. We'd often fish a couple of miles below where any trout could be found, and almost always ended up finding one or two downstream escapees amongst the smallmouth. It's a righteous stream and you are lucky to have land there. I left the area in '86 before it became a brew haven and still have friends there, one of whom now grows hops for the local breweries. Lots of changes, for sure, hope your area there is still comfortably rural.

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I had the TFO 6 weight fly reel that comes in their combos for the longest while and it worked just fine for the task but I've found the large arbor 6 weight reels help with getting line up quickly and when fishing smaller rivers where youre dodging trees and limbs that can be handy. I recently picked up the Allen Kraken size 2 for my colton 6XS and its fantastic but I bargain hunted before buying at full price. The Sage diecast reel line is good bang for the buck for large arbor reels with good drag for around 100 bucks if you find them on sale.
https://flyfishusa.com/p/3551-Sage-2200-Series-Reel.aspx

Youd want the 2250 size and they have a few color options as well. The 3200 series isnt bad either but I've used the 2200 line for my 8 weight for smallmouth on the new and it did its job wonderfully.

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Awesome, thank you!

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I am getting a new 8 weight saltwater fly rod and a 6 weight freshwater rod. I am sure there are many other places on the site where people ask for recommendations on reels but due to IFishVTIam's signature ('reel') and Hokieflyguy's name ('fly') it's hard for me to search and find posts that have 'fly reel' in the content. I know GreenTop has deals on Behemoths and Nautiluses right now but I haven't heard much about them. I've been out of the fly game for a while so any direction in brands/etc. would be helpful. Thanks!

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Sorry about that!

LOVE Nautilus. Also love my Allen Kraken. Lamson, Ross and 3Tand are also very good at mid-price point. Hatch and Tibor for high end and Seigler if you have "F you" money for a fly reel.

Redington Behemoth would be a good reel too, though having not picked one up before, I'd question how heavy it is. I like my reels to balance my rods.

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Thanks for the recommendations. Do you have any preference between those for a saltwater setup? I'm always more hesitant with saltwater setups. My current freshwater reels are on the cheaper end and I haven't had any major issues so I'll probably go lower end for that setup.

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I have 110% confidence in the ability of my Nautilus, Allen and Lamson reels. Those are the three reels I have rigged currently for next week's trip to Louisiana for Reds and Crevalle Jack up to 30 pounds. A large arbor Orvis is my backup on the fourth rod, but only because it's all I've got left to hold enough line. If I have to use it for a big fish, it might explode. I'd much rather have that Redington as the backup. My next reel purchase will be a 3Tand, great owner and the reels look badass and aren't overly heavy, like a Hatch. Nothing against the Redington Behemoth, as Hokienator said below, I'm sure it's a good reel, I just don't have experience with it. I'm not sure I'd buy one solely on the looks either, but that's just my personal preference. I'd fish it if it was handed to me. As far as looks go, very rarely does that affect performance. A bright shiny reel could scare off a trout on a small stream if the sun hits it right. Ross reels look freaking badass but they have such little metal in them that they could bend if too much pressure was put on them from the side, like if you dropped it or it was under a bunch of other heavy gear. The Jimmy Williams in me thinks that if I'm going to get skunked while fishing and I've spent a lot of money on a rod and reel, I want to look good getting skunked.

I don't know what they have in stock as I haven't been to Green Top in quite some time, but if they have deals on Nautilus and Redington Behemoth, either of those two will suit you well and last a lifetime if you take care of it. The Behemoth is probably slightly less expensive in regular pricing, not sure how the sale would work out. Allen should be priced the same range as well. Nautilus is the bigger name and I'll get a third one of those at some point as well, oh and I LOVE how they look haha.

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Good to hear. Let us know how that Louisiana trip goes. I have been looking into some lodges down there.

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Flyguy knows his stuff and definitely can help you out.

My suggestions is behemoth is supposed to be good bang for the buck considering Nautilus is a steep price jump if you want the machined reel type an Allen reel is a nice compromise for the price.

Recently got a Colton 6XS for my 6 weight and it's fantastic in casting atleast the weather won't let me fish it yet.

My eight weight is the Echo Ion XL 8 wt and it's awesome for the price, paid 130$ and it's been awesome I use it for most stuff for bass and love it on the new river for smallies and can definitely recommend the rod by echo

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