OT: 2019-2020 EPL and other European domestic leagues

use this thread to discuss EPL and other domestic leagues, e.g. la liga, bundesliga, serie a, etc

The 2019-2020 EPL season has kicked off today, and Liverpool are leading Norwich City 4-0 at the half, with Norwich looking threatening going forward but utterly shambolic at the back. Alisson has gone off with what looks to be a hamstring injury.

DISCLAIMER: Forum topics may not have been written or edited by The Key Play staff.


I think like last year City and Liverpool will run away as first and second in some order, but can any other team keep pace? Who will escape the "next four" to finish 3rd and 4th? Which middle table team will be a surprise? Absolutely thrilled to have the prem back

VB born, class of '14

Arsenal and Spuds will round out the top 4...Everton will surprise and possibly claim 5th place.

Thanks, GGC. The transfer thread is no longer necessary.

Hope it's just a hammie and nothing more for Alisson.

My bung-hole is perpetually clenched until news breaks, hoping that it's nothing major. The way his knee gave truly concerns me, at least we're up 4-0...


⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ #YNWA

looked to me like he slipped/twisted an ankle on his left leg but then immediately grabbed his right hamstring when he fell after he kicked. i hope it's a muscle and nothing more

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

at least we're up 4-0...and in the 49th minute it could easily be 7-2

you never know, Poggers or Eriksen could always move to madrid

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Going to my first European club match tomorrow. FC Emmen v. Ajax! Anything I should know before going? I loosely follow EPL and MLS, but don't know anything about the Dutch league.

"For those who have passed, for those to come, reach for excellence."

European games are just such a different atmosphere. There really is nothing that quite compares. We went to Bayern-Leipzig in Munich last year and stood behind goal. Absolutely nuts, especially because most people absolutely loathe Leipzig.

Only thing I wish I'd known in advance is what an absolute madhouse it would be trying to leave. We essentially had to sprint out of the stadium and over to the S-bahn station just to keep up with the crowd.

Well, I've never heard of FC Emmen, and Ajax was about 10 seconds away from being a finalist in the European Championship. So, I would expect a big Ajax win. The Dutch league is...not exactly know for their defense. It's basically the Big XII.

Ajax has an American in their first team - Sergiño Dest (#28) who plays fullback. He started a number of games with the usual starters in preseason, so it's possible he could play. He may also be an unused sub.

Enjoy the match, it should be fun!

I would love it if more of the US youth players could go to Ajax that's the perfect place to grow and learn the game

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Luckily, they just acquired another U-20 international, Alex Mendez. He was a fixture for the US at the U-20 World Cup this past summer and recently joined. He will start out on Jong Ajax (reserve team) and hopefully work his way into the picture in the next couple years. I believe they also have another youth player, Joshua Pynadath. Many clubs in Germany and The Netherlands are starting to see the value in young US talent.

I've found myself watching a lot less EPL in favor of Bundesliga over the last few years. Excited that Koln is back in the top tier, though that complicates my rooting interests, especially given that the very first game is against Wolfsburg.

Unfortunately, AFN is hot garbage, and isn't showing ANY European games for the foreseeable future. Instead, we get the WNBA and the NASCAR truck series for the duration of deployment.

Something tells me if Norwich can sort out defending they could be a surprise they play fun stuff

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

The first half of Spurs-Aston Villa was excruciating to watch. Tottenham had many chances and could not 'stick it in'. One match in and NDOMBELE is worth all the money.

The last 30 minutes were promising, but the key is to get that sharpness for all 90. Having Vertonghen, Son, and Alli would help.

VB born, class of '14

Arsenal will be fielding a fairly weak team tomorrow given injuries and the ridiculous situation surrounding Ozil and Kola. I hope they catch whoever is doing this to them and give them the jail time they deserve. Here's hoping Newcastle is as bad as everyone thinks they're going to be.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

Newcastle without Benitez probably means a relegation battle. The AFTV guys are up there and they interviewed a NUFC fan...it just sounds grim. They're trying to organize boycotts of matches, etc. The owner really is the EPL's Dan Snyder.

Should be a good opportunity for 3 points away even with a weakened roster.

The owner of Citeh's cousin bought Newcastle in the offseason...Mike Ashley is out as far as I know. Shameful indeed, though.

That didn't go through. Ashley is still the owner unfortunately.

"That move was slicker than a peeled onion in a bowl of snot." -Mike Burnop

Damn...I've had a soft spot for the magpies since Keegan was their manager....pity

Guendouzi, Nelson, Willock, Chambers, and Mkhitaryan all starting. Pepe, Ceballos, lacazette, and Luiz on the bench

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Mkhi has been an exclusively negative presence over the first 25 minutes.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

Guessing Mkhi and Xhaka both off at the half. Both have been awful.

Xhaka is doing some dirty work that's not being noticed. Think he's fine for now. Mkhi needs to be subbed asap.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

That was....a half of soccer.

Willock and Nelson look the part, good energy. Chambers looks good. Can't be totally disappointed, some good things going on that will pay off later for the club.

I'll never complain about 3 points on the road. The youngsters looked good, Auba was himself, and the defense was solid with some good protection from Xhaka and Guendouzi. The new guys all looked shaky as to be expected.

AMN was MOTM for me.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

Pulisic on the bench today for Chelsea. Shame, I was looking forward to seeing him playing in the EPL.

King Alum of the House Hokie, the First of His Name, Khal of the Turkey Legs, The rightful Heir to the Big Board, the Unbanned, Breaker of Trolls and Father of Gritty

Hell be on second half

Taylor, looking desperately throws it deep..HAS A MAN OPEN DANNY COALE WITH A CATCH ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE FIVE!!!!....hes still open

I can't tell if yesterday's result was more of ManU showing the potential they have, or more of Chelsea just being that awful on the back line.

Probably a combination of both.

King Alum of the House Hokie, the First of His Name, Khal of the Turkey Legs, The rightful Heir to the Big Board, the Unbanned, Breaker of Trolls and Father of Gritty

Comes down to finishing. One team finished their chances, the other clanged the goal post a couple of times. Of course, that felt like most of the games this weekend outside of City.

I'm more of an optimistic united fan than most and I didnt even see that result coming. My biggest worry this season is if Rashford or martial cant deliver where the goals would come from. They showed up and Pogba showed more flashes from a deeper position that was encouraging. Thought he was better when he moved more forward into a more forward central role. That all said maguire and wan bissakka was a huge refreshing sight for sore eyes dulled by too many years of jones and smalling at the back. I'll be more intrigued how they play at molineaux against a testy wolves side before I get excited but this game was refreshing.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Probably both. If Abraham had scored instead of hitting the post during Chelsea's initial burst it would have changed the flow of the game. The youth of this Chelsea team will be interesting to watch during the season. Everyone has been calling for it for so long but if you start Zouma and Christensen as a center back pairing in your season opener you're gonna have a bad time. Lazy defending from Zouma that led to the pen.

As a United fan, it was good to start off the season with a win no matter the opponent. Next week at Wolves will probably be a bigger test than the Chelsea game was. No disrespect to Chelsea, but they're definitely rebuilding and have the transfer ban and Wolves are on the rise. They had our number a few times last season, as well.

It was good to see the new United boys all have good games. I think I was most impressed with Maguire. He should be good being the most defensive defender in history and all, but a lot of pressure comes with that tag and he seemed to do fine. He had a lot of very calm headed clearances that I can't remember seeing from any United defender recently... probably because I've been watching Phil Jones flail at balls for the last 10 years.

Here's hoping it's not just a flash in the pan. I think if this United team can gain some confidence and momentum they'll be challenging for the title third place at least (I'm realistic, hahaha). Yesterday felt like a game with Fergie in charge and those have been few and far between since he left.

Cant agree more United had chelseas number with pace on the counter attack Zouma doesnt look all that good anymore. Maguire looked so refreshing not that the bar is awfully high from smalling and jones over the last few years but to see someone just dealing with it time and time again was nice. If the front line can be consistent enough top 4 should be achievable but if the youth in the front line and a few injuries hit hard we will be hoping the europa league route works. The best bit was how under Ole we actually are trying to press in packs finally instead of sitting back in a shell like Mou had us.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Sitting Luiz is coaches choice. Letting him go is coaches madness.

Pogba and Luiz have some very real long ball capacity. They can drop it on a dime from far away. World class stuff that can impact games.

Yes u let some pacy forward devastate him in space he's going to show his age, but for fooks sake, the guy has some wisdom he could share with the team.

The formation was right but Kante must have been hurt.

Still the real problem to me was the soft play by Pedro, and another forward giving up the ball when you could least afford it. Combined with Aspilaqueta and the player never to be named who honestly doesn't look capable of playing at a premier league level.

Coach has got some work to do. If he can't sure up the center he's gotta find Azpiliqueta's speed and anticipation for him.

MM no business in the premier league. Decent skill no physical differentiation. CP may or may not stick in the league but he is 10x better than MM.

Russian really needs to start looking for a coach now. Lampard is too full of himself to course correct.

lol and people around here think dcwilson is negative about Fuente????????????????????????????????????

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Hope he doesnt watch the super cup today because if you thought United was devastating on the counter liverpool are gonna put 10 in the net today.

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

My post may not travel well. Still maintain Lampard's judgement is highly suspect, but that midfield may save his bacon. Gonna be a hard year as they have Champion's schedule. Lotsa added pressure and matches for a team with some gaps... don't see how they can afford key injuries. Chelsea looked really good today, though I didn't intensely / analytically watch. Jorgino and Kante and mebbe even Kovacic looked like they had a very good day today. That midfield may save the day, though it will be tough because they are still lacking components. I wouldn't be surprised to see a 4-4-2 with Puliisic outside mid. Hope he can pull off that left forward position, he looked fairly nervous playing it today, even though he got some really hopeful stuff done (assist, goal called back offside, cross his boys just weren't paying attention to). Would be very exciting to see Pulisic as a part of a very strong midfield group. Still feel like he needs to be that false 9 type of middie... most dangerous when he has options...not sure Chelsea is the place to learn how to play it.

CesarA.... come on man.... letting the big man firmino beat you on the trap pull? Early in the half? Been a bad few days for this guy. I'll take Pedro getting his pocket picked (I think it was him) in the worst way again because he played relatively well... but damn son there are some guys who people pick on because they know they will give up howlers at just the wrong time. Stop being that guy. (in case he is reading this)

Not negative regarding Fuente. Mebbe the way things turned out woulda liked to see Bud have had a crack at the job... but understand why things got decided the way they did.

Sort of reminds me of home.

It's not a bad comparison...Lane and Anfield are both known as raucous atmospheres with a feverish fanbase and kind of an odd, disjointed architecture. Opponents hate playing there.

YNWA is one of my favorite traditions. Which is weird as a United fan, but it reminds me of Enter Sandman. It gives me chills every time just watching on TV.

Mood! 🏆 🏆s

We played like rubbish, but man, I'll never get used to the feeling of corralling silverware. Proud of my reds!

⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ #YNWA