Virginia Tech defensive tackle Norell Pollard charged with possession of marijuana https://t.co/BLm1Onfn5d— michaelniziolek (@michaelniziolek) October 31, 2019
Will be a key story to look out for on saturday. The story says the punishment can range from a warning to a suspension, and that Whit can handle it himself or allow someone else to review the case.
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....Dammit
A nice firm warning sounds good to me, right everyone?
if this was UNC
but its his first infraction maybe suspend him for a half or qtr or something would be my guess. a warning seems a little to passive and its more about what message do you want to send than anything else.
FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK
At least it's not felony possession. That's how we get to the Mook situation.
What usually happens in these situations? Are players typically suspended until their court dates? Because his isn't til December 12th so that's gonna be a problem...
Automatic suspension for Felonies. This wasn't.
BE A BRO WHIT
Whit pls. Also, if no one ever reported on it and it was not generally known, it would make it a lot easier for Whit too. Whose side is the Roanoke Times on anyways!? Jk, I know the answer.
Good going. This is the kiss of death. He'll be suspended the rest of the season now.
Whose side are they on?
The clicks, man. The clicks.
Just going to add a few comments here - this happened on Oct. 24, so the athletic department (presumably) has known about it for some time.
Furthermore, this is a misdemeanor, which means it is solely up to Whit to decide if it is simply a warning & probation, all the way up to a suspension.
Can we just legalize marijuana and be done with it for fucks sake! I'm just sick of seeing all these kids get in trouble for something as silly as this, especially something that is legal in a bunch of states now. Like how do those schools handle kids smoking marijuana in the states where it is legal?
Great question. I bet if enough kids started choosing west coast schools solely for this reason, it would make southern state legislators change policies real quick!
No, because I already heard one story about a man making pot candy, wrapping it in deceptive wrappers (like tootsie rolls) and handing it out for Halloween in a state where it is legal.
I am not arguing that this was legal, just the original purchase.
How would that be any different than if said man made alcohol candy or nicotine candy? People are gonna do dumb shit like that because that's what gets their rocks off for some reason. Punish the mass for the stupidity of one.
Distributing ANY controlled substance or medication like that wouldn't be legal anywhere.
alcohol causes more deaths than heroin too. Perhaps we should use that rationale to legalize heroin?
I started to comment on this and deleted it about 5 times, because I don't have the bandwidth right now to pick apart this bullshit argument the way it truly deserves. So, just trust me when I say it's fucking ridiculous.
yes, heroin is bad for you, Pot is not I get it. My point is that is a stupid argument to start with. Alcohol kills more people because more people abuse alcohol... perhaps we should address that? Instead of using that as a blanket justification to legalize a drug?
As succinctly as I can possibly state it, subtracting legality, the general adverse effects of alcohol abuse will always vastly outweigh the general adverse effects of abusing marijuana. Which begs the question, why is one legal and the other isn't? Period. End. Fin. Mike drop. That's the ballgame.
Because drug laws are not a zero sum game. Period.
Because our drug laws are stupid. PERIOD.
I wish I had more upvotes to give you. All drugs should be decriminalized and we should focus on rehabilitation instead of incarceration. It's working wonders for Portugal.
How does portugal handle the cost of Heroin, Cocaine, etc? Who pays for it? The junkies? Or is there no need now, because everyone has kicked it through rehab? My point is that, sure we can "decriminalize" heroin in the US, but I don't see any way to decriminalize the related crime- robberies, drug gang activity, etc. Do their hard core drug users have prescriptions for the stuff? Is there no black market?
This is delving into politics quite a bit at this point. There's gonna be a black market but you take a large portion of that market away. You take the money out of a market and you destroy the market. The idea an hope is that decriminalizing and licensing manufacturers does this. It would obviously still have to be heavily regulated.
You're paying for it now in two ways whether you know it or not....You have a medical problem and a criminal problem. Europe treats it as a medical issue.
There is an abundance of evidence that the criminal related elements of drugs is a direct relation to the black market value of illegal narcotics. A cursory study of prohibition is a good start to understand this. You don't see rampant crime and organized gang related crime from black market alcohol anymore. But it has been lost to many to correlate the time period with what occurs today because of the great job anti-drug propaganda has done on the population for countless generations to make it appear that drugs cause people to do robberies, join gangs...etc when it's actually the opposite. It's also a great money making opportunity for local jurisdictions and the legal apparatus to keep things like this illegal.
I want to add, I come from a LE background having seen the drug war first hand from this side and have never done an illegal drug in my life. I actually believed the way most people do about 20 years ago, but decided to really look into it. And it's mostly alot of baloney.
Boom! 💥
OK, whew glad we settled that
Edit: My response was uncalled for.
Because they banned alcohol and got a whole lot of problems from doing so. They banned marijuana and many other substances and didn't get as much kickback from it, so they remain illegal.
When they didn't get a whole lot of troubles from doing so, they were able to make people think that the drugs were evil and keep up the "substance abuse as a moral shortcoming" story they were selling. Again, while alcohol has probably led to so many more deaths, and certainly more health issues because moderation isn't something done in America, it won't be banned again.
Racism.
Literally, its racism. Historically, alcohol was the vice of the white person, and marijuana the vice of the black.
False narrative, but now we're REALLY getting political.
But sure, that's one way to take a controversial issue and multiply it by another controversial issue to make make it even more political.
Maybe should start an off topic thread on this. I'm guilty of getting off track as well.
Think its really about time it goes to another forum - as politics are definitely against cg. This happens every marijuana thread and we're all guilty of it but we all stop right when the line starts to gray.
Sure, let's mix it in with some other tangentially-related topics.
Edit: Agree with your new take.
Not conceding. Just policing myself. Happy Friday, my friend.
Oh, and I didn't disagree with your post, other than it was a different topic from what was being discussed.
Go Hokies!
I was going to guess production...
I would've thought historically alcohol was easier to manufacture, distribute, and profit off of. Whereas marijuana wasn't probably quite as abundant, wasn't being mass produced, and was less accessible.
But I could be wrong.
I always thought the wood/paper industry was why marijuana is still illegal. Because you can make paper out of hemp a heck of a lot cheaper than wood pulp.
Yes
Where? Just asking for a friend.
Yeah that sounds about as real as those urban legends of people hiding razorblades or needles in candy.
I agree. Who would put forth that much effort to make at least 50-100 weed candies, unwrap real candy, wrap the weed candy and then give them away.
1. That's too much work
2. Who would give away candy that they could enjoy even more?
Name 1 pothead resourceful enough to make that many candies but restrained enough to not immediately then start eating them.
"Never get high off your own supply" - Biggie Smalls
I seen someone post on Twitter their kid got a razor in their pile of candy. A razor ramon action figure to be exact 😂
Looks like Conn. had both last night
Razorblades and THC
Mom lives in RI. So hearing about it in Conn doesn't surprise me.
Hard to believe. Very few people are going to shell out for full size snickers. Who the hell is gonna give away their good shit?
Please please please tell me you are writing this in a sarcastic tone.
His comment below would imply differently.
Then that's a big old yikes from me dawg.
Based on his comment below I don't think he is...
Edit: DAMNIT!! You are the first one to get me, I'll be drinking now.
What if I told you that story wasn't true?
Alas somebody else found the report from Connecticut as well.
Trying to pass THC laced candy as regular candy =/= giving out marked THC candy....
Not that either are correct but if you're not looking through your kids candy before they eat it then that's not very good parenting. That's been a parenting rule since I was a kid.
Absolutely agree.
Shit like this always gives me a chuckle. Why would anyone spend that ridiculous amount of money that it is required to make or purchase weed laced candy, and then openly hand it out.
The dollars and cents do not work out.
how many FW:FW:FW:FW: were in the subject of the email you read this in?
I believe the current terminology used in these situations by the yutes is 'OK Boomer'
Source?
The office of the crown prince of Nigeria is the investigative body. They are closely monitoring the situation. To find out more on this breaking story, just send me your banking account numbers, mother's maiden name, and your social.
That has nothing to do with legalizing marijuana
WTF is with all the down votes on this comment?
You know how some comments get downvoted for bad opinions? Well, I'm pretty sure this one was downvoted for gullibility.
I work for a company with a plant in Washington the state and one here in Virginia basically it's legal for those employed in Washington and all that means is they simply don't test for marijuana where as the plant in Virginia still tests for it. Would imagine that's a similar way the schools operate.
On the other hand, it's still a violation of the NFL's CBA to smoke up even if you're a Denver Bronco, Seattle Seahawk, etc. Not sure what the NCAA regulation is, but it wouldn't surprise me if even players in states where it's "legal" aren't allowed to partake, since it's still on the list of controlled substances at the federal level.
Most companies aren't like that. They enforce it as it is federal law and they could be liable in an accident
I imagine the kids dont get arrested for it to begin with because it's not a crime.
Political
I think the CDC estimates that 9% of all americans currently smoke weed more than once a week or similar. That's probably why it's not legal nation wide. That and THC and it's long term effects are not like drinking spring water every day.
I assume it's like an employer. Even if it's legal they can still prohibit it
I hope Whit uses similar discretion as he did with T. Outlaw. I live in CA and the shit is legal and should be everywhere else. Tobacco vapors drop dead daily but that pesky weed can really make you die unexpectedly.
THC vaping products (off brand/black market stuff) have been making people sick.
Feel free tee off on Cigarettes, though.
Sure, black market shit gets people sick. Regulated stuff doesn't.
Okay, cool.
Go Hokies
Actually, as documented by the NY Times in their Daily podcast and recent paper articles, Juul and other brand name vaping tobacco products have made folks ill and die. I do hear yet to be conducted long-term studies of 20-30 years have shown inhaling Propylene Glycol, Benzoic acid, and Glycerol to be much safer than the usual alternative. The FDA gave a rubber stamp a few years back; the stuff must be safe.
Hokie hi...
There were a lot of better vaping meme's that I wanted to put here, but probably not message board appropriate
Related update from the CDC: Vitamin E Acetate, used by the black marketers making THC vapes, has been found in EVERY sample tested by the CDC.
They are still in the process of looking for other potential factors.
Thanks for falling for the misleading ads paid for by the big tobacco companies. All of the cases of major health issues cited have been caused by black market THC vapes, due to substances that wouldn't be found in a legal product.
Not according to the CDC. Just had this discussion with my healthcare admin wife.
Yes, according to the CDC. I guess maybe not "all", but certainly "most":
https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/basic_information/e-cigarettes/severe-lung-d...
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/28/health/cdc-vaping-death-data-mmwr/index.html
According to CNN the CDC mostly disagrees with you.
*edit* dammit I'll drink I guess
The point of my post was contained in that article. There are cases of people with severe lung issues that reported only using nicotine only vaping products.
Honestly, though, since it doesn't include any actual data on substances found in the blood or anything, you can't fully trust it. People lie to doctors all the time, even about relatively mundane stuff, but especially when it comes to illegal substances, and since the sample size is 19 people, that's only 3 that reported only using non-THC vapes.
All I'm saying is, if you've ever seen one of those anti-vaping ads spreading fear over this "outbreak" and telling people that all vaping is illegal, check and see who produced the ad, and follow the money. I can almost guarantee you that a large portion of the funding came from the tobacco industry, and I'm sure I don't need to tell you that your health isn't exactly their #1 priority.
I certainly was faked and targeted by one of those anti-vaping ads. Thank you for enlightening me on this topic. Vaping is for sure a good source of nutrients, and I am a huge proponent of its use for anyone to maintain a balanced lifestyle and long-term health.
Altria Group (formerly Philip Morris Companies), acquired a 35% stake in Juul Labs for $12.8 billion on December 20, 2018.
Regardless whether it's tobacco cigarettes, marijuana, vape, jul, etc. it's pretty much common sense that if you set something ablaze or heat it up so it turns to a gas and then you inhale it into your lungs it's probably not going to do good things for your body even if it feels like it is at the moment.
Your common sense cool take is an affront to the entire internet.
Exactly. Is it good for a top athlete to smoke dope? Nope.
Tbh he should be suspended at least for this week. We can't be the schools that we all judge when they don't do shit for stuff like this.
What if you don't judge those schools? Asking for a me.
Personally, I only judge the schools who hand out harsh and unjust punishments to students who violated an outdated law.
Like UNC? Or SEC programs? Haven't seen anyone on this board be nice on purpose to them.
Would be idiotic in my opinion to suspend a key player for one of your biggest games of the year, just to portray a better image. In my opinion that's horse shit. Weed should be legal everywhere alcohol and tobacco kill lots of people yearly and yet they're still legal, quit with this stigma of it being a bad image I would go as far to venture about probably 1 out of every 2 people smokes now a days it's a lot more common than it used to be, besides there are some people that prefer to smoke than drink, I am one of those people
I would prefer they make Tobacco and Weed both illegal.
Are the numbers in your username your birthday?
And alcohol, and red meat, and cheese, and French fries, and soda, and anything else bad for you.
Heroine is still go thought, right??!!
Asking for a friend.
Female Super Heroes are the best. They absolutely must stay.
Captain Marvel was... Okay at best. I thoroughly enjoyed Wonder Woman though. Sister Night is pretty bad ass too.
This is the toughest CG to follow.
I mean, sure, but that's not the only reason someone might downvote that comment:
Realistically though anyone saying they are for or against the legalization of marijuana is discussing politics. It just seems like there are far more people who think weed should be legalized here at TKP. I definitely think it is his opinion but I'm not going to downvote him because I disagree with his opinion.
I agree that there has been a decent bit of "toeing the line" with regards to politics in this thread (though not significantly more or less than in any other thread about pot charges). I also understand that someone is more likely to downvote a political comment if said comment doesn't align with their own views. That doesn't mean that said downvotes are against the Community Guidelines, since the comment itself may be in violation of the Community Guidelines and therefore subject to being downvoted.
Woah! How did you get a picture of me?
50% of people smoke dope??? lololol not even close. It's less than 10-15% in terms of regular smoking.
Can't find any more recent numbers, but as of 2017, 22% of American adults (55,000,000) were "current users" of pot (current use being once or twice within the past year), this is not even counting teens. 35,000,000 were considered regular users (once or twice within the past month at the time of the survey).
Breaking it down to people smoking it doesn't make sense, whether you're smoking, eating, vaping any other methods I'm not hip to, you're using pot.
2017 Survey
Now, in terms of those in favor of legalizing it, regardless of using it, we're holding steady around 62% as of last year.
Legalize it
Legalize it- agreed- please do.
Someone I know won't have to play hide and seek when its time to find more weed. Also, it will come from an approved grower, so no worry about it being sprayed with bug spray!! No different than during prohibition when people had to worry about tainted alcohol.
As far as athletes doing weed, when I played sports, it was the only way for me to calm down from playing baseball and football. I would be so jacked up from competing, that I couldn't calm down to go to sleep. Worked the same as alcohol.
Alcohol is just as bad as weed, and ask any law enforcement guy whether he would like to go to a drunk guy's house , or a dude burning weed. Less domestic violence- . Also the largest lobby against legal marijuana in Colorado? Coors, let that sit in for a while.
I would if it were legal and I wouldn't get fired for it. Legalize it and my guess is that the 10-15% jumps to more like 30%.
via GIPHY
I smoke enough to account for 32% of the population so your numbers are skewed.
And the hits just keep on coming
God damn it.
The game shouldn't matter. The punishment should be standard. If you think that weed should be legal then I would suggest Whit look at how he would punish a golfer that is first time offender for underage drinking. The punish should be the same across the department. Time of year shouldn't matter unless you want to over punish while in season because they should lay off the weed until off season.
I'm sure laying off the weed during the season is probably a conversation that Fuente and Foster had with him and hopefully the whole team.
Lotta players use it as an alternative to pain medication. In many cases it's not the ONLY reason they smoke... but it's a net positive if they are smoking weed rather than maxing out their intake of even OTC NSAIDs, and obviously it's 10000x better than abusing opioids.
Yep, came here to say this. In an era defined by an opioid epedenic, people are tirning to an illegal but not addictive pain killer, and being punished for it. Who cares if they self medicate?
I kind of care if they self medicate. If weed is illegal (which it is in va) then there are no regulations/safety in what the players are buying. I would rather them get drugs safely, and be able to talk about the usage with their doctor in case they need other drugs too. I want people to be safe.
I understand your concerns, especially given the vaping stuff that has come to light recently. That said, if you buy bud, you know what it is; it's not like other drugs that can be cut with a powder, or that are created in a lab. If you bake it in to an edible and sit your ass on your couch, you'll be fine. Worst case scenario you eat wayyy to much and you freak out and vomit.
Also, based on a highly informal survey I did with my very non-diverse group of friends, it's pretty common for people to talk openly with their doctors about my marijuana usage. A lot of doctors are treating pot like a vitamin/dietary supplement/herbal remedy, saying "It unproven, but some people report decreased joint pain/anxiety/whatever from occasionally using marijuana. You could try it and see if it helps."
Anyways, back to the crux of the issue here - I find it maddening that someone can get in legal trouble for this. If there's intent to distribute, or driving high, I get it, but walking around high or just having it on you shouldn't be a problem.
Medical isn't illegal and it will be fully legal soon.
https://www.vanorml.org/faqs
Those players need to pursue medical marijuana cards coordinated with the department then. Put some accountability and safety around it. If you did that, I would guess that 98% of players don't take it because they are sore.
Your thoughts on weed in general seem pretty clear based on your many replies in this thread, but I already said the majority of them are not ONLY using it as an alternative to pain meds... I'm not pretending all these young players are primarily smoking weed to heroically avoid potential opioid abuse... but it does act as a way to avoid using too many of any kind of pain med, even taking the max amount of advil you can take a day, every day, for an extended period of time can have some adverse side effects. So I really don't mind them smoking weed as a way to wind down or reduce some aches and pains after practice.
I don't know how viable this is in Virginia, but I'm assuming it's not a viable option to use as pain medication alternative or else a LOT of people, not just players, in VA would be doing this.
Just so we are clear. I would have no problem if marijuana was legal and treated like alcohol...including very aggressive DUI standards. I live in Maryland and I see people smoking blunts in cars regularly- I don't want to be killed by someone baked out no more than I want to be killed by someone hammered drunk. Having said that, telling Fuente to Fuck Off to his face is legal in America technically, and a player would be suspended or more for that. The converse of that is prostitution is illegal, and how bad is it if a player asks a hooker what she charged? does that hurt anyone? That is legal in a few counties in Nevada, but in Va, a player would be charged with a crime for that. It's not legal in Va yet, so Pollard will have to deal with that until it is legal, whatever the punishment will be.
I hear ya on the DUI stuff, if it ever becomes legal I hope they have a strict and effective way to enforce that.
I'm also not saying there shouldn't be any consequences for breaking what is currently a law, but I am saying I hope it's lenient given the degree of the accusation, AND that I disagree with the current laws. I personally think an easy first step is to just decriminalize it like Atlanta has.
Agree- If Pollard had a dime bag on him or a joint in his hand, give him extra study hall, make him wash cleats, and start him on Saturday at ND. Tell him if he gets popped for dope again, he misses 4 games.
Who cares?
#LegalizeIt
Hope Crawford is ready to go.
If he gets a game at least we'll have him back for the rest of conference play.
You better believe recruits will keep an eye on this, especially recruits that have offers to schools in states where marijuana has been legalized.
I think that is a reach.
Guys pick schools bc of Nike, because they like their colors, one of our more famous OLmen picked VT bc between his final 2 schools, the other "was too hot." It's not a stretch, considering he may be suspended for a semester, or worse, have a bunch of nerd students decide he's no longer fit to go to school at VT and steal his college experience from him.
Still pissed about what happened to CJ.
It is still banned by the NCAA though. Possession may be legal in legalized states but an athlete still cant use it freely or risk failing a test. Also, you prove my point. If it is too cold for one recruit, the alternative may be too hot for the other and so on and so on.
Yeeeeaaaaah that's not the point.
There are schools out there where having weed isn't a crime. There are schools where, if you want to smoke, you can. And don't get me started on the NCAA drug testing for weed, its a dog and pony show just for the looks. The last thing the NCAA actually wants to do here is catch someone and punish them, especially given the current climate surrounding the NCAA itself, and the fact that it is legal in some states.
And just because it may be available and legal in some states doesn't mean you have to partake, you just have the legal option. For some recruits, that is going to be a huge selling point. And for those who don't like it, they don't have to partake, just like any apartment party where alcohol is consumed.
Yep, those nerds forced him to smoke dope.
No one forced his decisions, and I think exactly zero people are arguing against that fact.
A punishment in-line with the offense is what we're discussing, and I don't have trust in the school to administer that given history and our school's antiquated policies on weed.
That's a fine reason to pick a team and school. /s
I get that you're joking, but I'm sure it's a serious thought for some of them. And it's not hard to see why, considering how many players get in legal trouble over it.
It was known that Oregon was the place to go If you wanted to smoke up when Chip was there. The players used that as a recruiting tool.
Every major conference continues to ban marijuana use for players - even the Pac 12 and Mountain West, so that is a moot point. It's not like Colorado players are allowed to blaze up in the locker room. They are tested and punished if caught.
But they don't have police departments looking for it as a crime.
That's a whole different level of enforcement.
Agree- but do we know the Blackburg PD hunted down Pollard and wanted to make an example of him?
I'm guessing they weren't called in over the results of an NCAA-required drug test.
It's not complicated:
1. Weed is illegal. Even if many people, myself included, think it should be legal, it isn't. So if you get caught, deal with it.
2. It's a minor offense, so the punishment should fit the crime. A warning, or sitting out a series is all that is needed - "Hey, Norell, don't do that shit, look at all the ruckus and publicity, this is your one time free pass"
Perfect post. Agreed
I couldn't agree more with all of this. Excellent post.
2019 player made $5 off a signature
"Hey, Player, don't do that shit, look at all the ruckus and publicity, you are suspended"
2021 player made $5 off a signature
*Buys a pizza*
Moral of the story is be born later
I love how Spade is trying his hardest to not completely lose it.
https://www.thekeyplay.com/content/2017/september/15/adonis-alexander-rumors
Seth28 I had this exact same reply when you posted this gif 2 years ago...
Also, OT, how do I link to a specific comment?
Edit: Sorry to put this back up on the tracker - just trying to TKP as hard as I can
The pound symbol (#) provides a link to each comment.
I'm ready to live in a van down by the river and do that very thing!
I thought weed was an automatic suspension from school at VT? Even if it was a hilariously small amount? Did that change? Did I miss that? Was I just wrong?
That's for distribution (felony) charges.
Huh. Thanks for the correction.
Norell, quickly say "it's for religious purposes".
That can get you out of a lot of jams.
Do better, Pollard.
Shame on him for being a college student!
Fuhuhuhuuuuck
This just shows he is a dedicated DT trying to put on more weight due to being undersized for the position (even though he plays very well for his size.)
O mergersh the evil plant!
The comments are exactly the same every time, we should just start linking the last pot article in the OP and save everybody a lot of energy
Another attack on the devil's lettuce. The victim shaming needs to stop.
#legalizeit
Fuck 12, stay strong Norell
My bad. should have not came at you aggressively
???
12 is another code for police. I assumed you were saying fuck the police if not my bad
Back in my day we called the police "Five Oh" or 5-0. Where'd this 12 shit come from? Get off my lawn!
Guessing they are in the DEA or Narcotics unit of the police force and is taking offense to your slander against him/her
Who?
If you're saying im a narc you are dead wrong 😂
Edit - You apologized I didn't see it, deleted
I apologize yesterday my man
MIKE JONES
Do the crime pay the time. It does not matter whether people think it should be legal, it currently is not so don't do it or suffer the consequences. That being said Whit needs to be consistent, should be the same punishment a soccer player or water polo player gets even though this is a revenue sport.
He has not been proven in a court of law to have committed a crime.
The soccer team doesn't generally get in trouble for this because the "random (which means you don't know when you will be drug tested, not literally randomly chosen)" drug tests are chosen by the coaches. They know who to test.
My personal opinion, and I would apply this to any player on any team, regardless of the upcoming opponent:
His court date is Dec 12. This is a misdemeanor, so no automatic suspension. He is innocent until proven guilty. Do not impose a punishment until he is proven guilty.
Let the punishment fit the crime.
If guilty, suspend him for the week after the bowl game.
VT just needs to relax and ask the very important question. What would Bobby Bowden do in a situation like what we have here Dadgummit!
Problem solved... Have Pollard run a couple stairs and we are good!
People are saying this is a good week for Patterson to start at QB since Hooker isn't 100%, so this is a good week for Pollard to learn a lesson and sit a half or a game since this game in the grand scheme of things means nothing.
Possessing some marijuana is still a crime? What a dumb world we live in. I do far more damage to my body with alcohol watching 6 overtimes
I'm really angry at Pollard and Fuente should be too. He needs to be punished. Fuente should make him run 10 laps around the practice field for this. Or 5 stadium stairs minimum. Or he should have to sit through an extra Notre Dame film session. If Fuente is angry enough, make him sit the first series of the next game. Set the example to the rest of the team that if they are caught with marijuana they will have to run extra at practice too. And harass them a bit about being dumb enough to get caught doing it. Teach them the concept of common Sense in a state where the police still care about it.
The tone of this comment matches with your statement of being "really angry", but then you say 10 laps around practice field and I laughed. If you're really angry and don't Pollard to do it again, I would the think the punishment would need to be mroe than 10 laps. What is the probability on any given week that a player in possession of pot gets caught? Probably pretty small. So any player that smokes would say, "hmm...I don't want to run 10 laps, but I probably won't get caught and if I do, it is just 10 laps, so..."
I don't know what Fuente should do, but if he wants to make a zero tolerance type of statement, then the punishment will certainly be more than 10 laps.
Um...?
Well that's because my comment is more satire than anything else. It's sort of a South Park style commentary. Blending a few different nuanced items together and leaving a bit up to interpretation. It's more a statement about how everyone overreacts to this sort of thing, in both directions. But yeah, I think the punishment should match the seriousness of the crime, hence I think Pollard should have to run some laps for it.
Dear VT players, find a buddy and make a deal. Let them mooch off your weed if they agree to carry it for you. DO NOT EVER CARRY YOUR OWN WEED. k?
Cris Carter agrees:
*Sees new comments*
Maybe there's an update on whether Norell will play this week or not...
Norell - next time just take a little stroll on the Huckleberry Trail off of Harrell Street near campus and enjoy your weed without getting caught.
Or the smartest place...in someones house/apartment
During Homecoming weekend, someone was in the middle of the drillfield in the rain on Saturday evening smoking. I could smell it getting out of my car in front of the dorms.
That was a skunk
That was me!
Are we going to hear about punishment prior to kickoff? Or will we just have to look for his number? Anybody know if he traveled with the team? If they have Crawford back and can play Fuga if needed (I think Bud has been wanting get him some time without burning the redshirt), then they decide to suspend him for a game and save face.
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In some capacity?
Either he's eligible, or he's not, isn't he?
I'm hoping he's a full participant.
I think he means the possibility that he be suspended for part of the game. Like a quarter or a half.
First snap or series...
Our first snap or series on offense . . .
FTFY
I mean... it's possible they still haven't heard official word on what Whit wants to do so they're flying him in just in case?
It's Schrodinger's Pollard. Until we know for sure he is simultaneously eligible and ineligible.
Fuente flew him out to South Bend just so he could stick him on a Greyhound bus back to Virginia right before kickoff /s
Sweet
Willie disapproves.