I like the hire, like what he has done at Buffalo and bringing with him NFL experience. Bills had some stout defenses in the last 2 years.
Off course we have an Illinois State connection:
Like his father, John, Bill would always get into coaching football. John Teerlinck coached for more than 30 years in both college football and professional football. He coached for 25 seasons in the NFL and won a Super Bowl with Denver and Indianapolis.
When asked about his coaching interest, Bill responded: "My dad being my hero, I got no other option, that's all I know and that's all I ever wanted to do."
The son began his coaching career at Illinois State as the Defensive Line coach from 2005-2006. Bill Teerlinck then moved on to work with the Indianapolis Colts. He was a defensive assistant for five seasons. He worked with the defensive line that featured Dwight Freeney and Robert Mathis, both made the Pro Bowl four-times and three-times respectively.
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That's your takeaway from this hire? π
sorry no, I had to rush from my laptop to attend a call
Love that we're locking in on the Illinois State connection even though the dude just left a successful NFL defense to coach for us.
I can't remember who it was but whoever connected the dots from Fuente's "ball games not bowl games" comment... well done
I'll say thank you for that.
May his defensive line Teer a new hole in opponents QBs and make him to Tapp out.
Yes!!!!!
These are the big-time hires I hope to see moving forward!
Fair play to Fuente and staff for pulling in this guy. Hopefully he and Tapp can flex some muscles and bring in some studs.
This looks like a great hire.
I like the direction Fuente is going with all of this.
Should be good for recruiting and player development.
I think this could be an incredible hire.
For sure excited about the hire. The names he has on his resume and just knowing the performance they put up under his watch.
Would love to see his reaction when he gets set up in the DL room. Considering he is coming from the NFL where his tackles came in at 318 and 341......to our "quick Twitch" sized line.
I think Crawford is maxed out (or close) on size for his build/height.
However, Kendricks can go over 300 this offseason with relative ease. Fuga has the height/frame to carry 300+ and play.
I think Pollard is an interesting case. We should be able to add weight to him easily this offseason.
After that we start trying to land bigger tackles moving forward. A potential great start for 21 would be Tyleik Williams.
Same high school as Ryan Williams if I'm not mistaken.
And Tim Settle.
Yep, and Stroman and Settle.
Yep. It will take Fuente another 10-12 years to "repair that relationship" that the prior staff had with the school though, so we may as well look for DL in Ga/Kentucky/TX/NC. It's too soon for Fuente to sign top rated players in VA. /S
What happened there? Did Stroman and Settle not like Fuente?
I was being sarcastic. Forgot to add the /S
Just put it in your sig. You're sarcastic enough that it would be warranted. ;^)
... and Reggie Floyd, so there is definitely an established relationship there. And we're talking about very productive guys for VT who all played huge roles for us.
Or Payton Page ;) Paging the Hendon Hooker recruiting line...
Fuente was tired of hearing from recruits about putting d-linemen in the NFL so he hires a guy with vt connections who had a long NFL career, and a coach who has spent the last 14 years as an NFL coach. I think he heard the message loud and clear and has put us in a position to land some stud d-linemen!
And this is why Wiles was let go. I'm sure it was difficult for everyone to watch him leave but having Teerlinck on staff is a no brainer.
I also like how the coaching "depth chart" is being set up as well:
DL: Teerlink, Tapp
LB: Claeys, Tyler
CB: ????, Prioleau
S: Hammer
Claeys and Teerlink will become DCs somewhere else at some point but we have really good ready-made replacements for when that time comes.
They have both previously been DC's too
Love it. This is exactly what we needed; professional experience on a good defense will translate to better recruiting.
Now just waiting on CBs coach....
Texans are still in the playoffs.
Is Midget the name we're hearing?
If he's the hire, its a solid one.
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Don't expect midget
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Who is it? Any clue?
JMU DB coach.
The question is which one? Birkett or Smith?
Smith coaches safeties, which is what it says JHam coaches on his profile, so unless JHam switches, or they would plan on switching Smith to corners, I would guess Birkett (if it IS a guy from JMU).
Why exactly do we think this and not Midget? The whole, "we can't have nice things" thought would seem to suggest someone from JMU, but we just pulled in Teerlinck, so maybe we CAN have nice things.
We can clearly see the positives on Teerlinck - what are the positives on a JMU db coach hire? I've heard that we wanted better recruiting out of the position coaches that were let go. Teerlinck gives instant credibility. Midget seems like it would be the same. JMU db coach? Also, JMU has been done playing for awhile, which seems like they could have hired someone from there right after their bowl game. The wait, at least to me, seems to suggest another NFL hire.
EDIT: I think I saw their game on Dec. 21st and assumed it was the last game - thanks for setting me straight! Still though, what are the benefits of a JMU db coach and why don't we think it would be Midget? People have pointed out that Mitchell coached up Farley to all-ACC level, so would think he's good from a coaching perspective. So it would seem like they're looking for a good recruiter, and I have a REALLY hard time thinking the JMU hire gives us better recruiting credibility (we already have pretty good name recognition as a school for all the dbs we have in the NFL, so we'd need someone that gives us something better than that).
JMU is playing in the FCS championship game this Saturday.
North Dakota State is gonna run a train on JMU. Nobody beats NDSU in Frisco, TX. This is the 8th Championship game for the Bison in 9 years. It's nice to have a "winner" to pull for after my Hokies and Dallas Cowboys seasons...
Edit: my pops is an alum so I tag along anytime they play on the East Coast and have been to 1 of the FCS Championship game.
I mean JMU is the other team with a championship in those 9 years. And they beat NDSU in the semifinal game in North Dakota that year. The Bison are on an insane level, but JMU appears to be pretty close this year.
JMU plays in the FCS National Championship game this Saturday against NDSU in Frisco, TX
He does have instant credibility but that fades away if he doesn't produce within the next three years.
Somehow I don't see a guy with a resume like Teerlinck's being here in 3 years. I'd wager he's looking at DC positions after a season or two at Tech.
...Unless he's not producing in years 1 and 2
So your judging him solely on his current job not what kind of coach he is? JHam came from VMI, Holmon Wiggins now at Bama came from Memphis and everyone was worried.
I honestly have no clue what kind of coach he is. What I DO know is that Mitchell coached Farley to first-team all ACC this year. I'm just doubting that he's better than that.
It's not just that he came from JMU, I looked Birkett up, and looked up guys that have gone to the NFL at schools he's coached at (you know, looking for evidence that even though he's coming from an FCS school, he's good at developing talent). It does look like he developed a few guys at Maine into all-conference status (again, at an FCS school). While you can argue that's pretty good, I still don't buy that it's as good as the guy who was already on staff. And unless you had 4 or 5 star guys going to JMU or Maine because of Birkett, I don't think that you could make a case that he'd be a better recruiter (not that Mitchell was doing that, I'm just making the point that you can't argue that he might be a better recruiter than Mitchell), so you're back to coaching ability, and I'd argue Farley and Waller are really good coaching products (especially if you look at their development in just the past year).
So what I was saying is I don't know why you'd take the guy from JMU (and only using that because people had said we were getting a guy from there rather than using his name) considering what we already had.
Also, my point was also asking why we thought a coach from JMU and not Midget from the NFL? As per my other post, I think you could make the case that Midget is a better coach than Mitchell is, with the added benefit of coming from NFL which would give him credibility in recruiting (something that Mitchell and Birkett (or Smith) don't have).
I don't know anything about the JMU coach in question, but, because he has been in Virginia, he will all ready have some relationships with high school teams / coaches. Another point, hasn't JMU won a national title? [OK, not the national football title, but nonetheless.] Who else on the VT staff could say that? Those two things alone might be a big plus to make him effective on the recruiting trail.
Except the JMU coach in question (Matt Birkett) only coached at JMU for 1 year, before that, he was at University of Maine, hardly the same recruiting grounds. JMU went to the championship last year, but they didn't win, so Birkett didn't win an FCS championship. So, I'd argue that Mitchell, who'd been at VA Tech for 4 years, had better relationships in Virginia and surrounding territories than Birkett. From my research, Birkett produced zero NFL draftees. Mitchell coached Farley to first team all-ACC. I doubt Birkett has similar accolades.
There IS another db coach at JMU (Ryan Smith), but he's listed for safeties, and JHam is listed as coaching safeties. Ryan Smith has only been at JMU for 1 year as well, before which he was at Elon, which has some recruiting overlap.
Either way, I don't think you can say either of those other guys is a step up in coaching ability (unless Farley and Waller developed on their own), so unless Mitchell was a terrible recruiter, I don't get going after a coach from JMU.
As I said, I don't know the JMU coach. I thought he was one of those that had been at JMU for awhile - long enough to have been on one of the national championship teams - an assumption that appears to be clearly wrong.
Much of your praise for Mitchel is that he has done so well coaching up Farley - a feat deserving of recognition. My ignorance is showing here: How is Mitchel regarded a recruiter?
Would your opinion of the JMU coach change if the Dukes went on and won it all?
Mitchell has gotten a lot of praise for Farley, but also did well with Waller. I honestly have no idea how good a recruiter Mitchell was, but I would also guess that the coach from JMU wasn't bringing in 4 or 5 star talent.
Basically, what I want to see is a clear step up from the guy we already had on the coaching staff, and from the research I did, it just doesn't seem like that's the case to me. Even if JMU wins it all, they were in the championship game in 2016 and 2017 before he got to JMU, so not sure it would give the coach extra credibility to me. Again, I'm looking for a clear step up, which is why I was hoping we'd get Midget who currently coaches NFL dbs, which would give him a lot of credibility on the recruiting trail and also speaks to his coaching ability (the accomplishments of his defenses on his Houston bio look good from a coaching perspective). That's the kind of step up I am looking for. People said not to expect Midget, but people seemed doubtful about Teerlinck as well.
Not saying I don't agree with what you're saying because I do, but from what I've heard Mitchell was making a push to leave as well. More mutual than just VT saying cya later
Interesting, I had not heard that before. Either way, I hope for a step up rather than what I'd consider a lateral move.
looks like a great hire and one in which VT plucked him away. so my question is why? this is a backwards move in career trajectory, so why give up an NFL job for a (upper) middle tier ACC school?
is the desire to coach college football that much greater? does he like Fuente that much?
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He's only been with the Bills for a few seasons, and has been back and forth between NFL and NCAA so it's possible he prefers the college game to the pros. If this helps him land a college DC job, it might not wind up being a backwards move, but rather a lateral one. And it's also entirely possible that the salary is better at VT than in Buffalo.
I'm not sure how much of this matters: With VT being a "defensive institution", a lot of position coaches may be chomping at the bit to have "Virginia Tech" on their resume for future DC jobs in the same vein Shane left UGA to go work under Lincoln Riley. With Foster leaving, the gates are finally open for coaches outside of the VT family to get their shot.
Really? Because having VT on their resume has done wonders for all the other VT defensive coaches? Shane is also not a successful NFL position coach (and probably never will be). Leaving UGA for OU is not at all similar to leaving the NFL (on your own terms) for VT.
This is a celebrate the new coach thread.
I can't celebrate the hire and question Teerlinck's motivation at the same time? Are we to only be simple minded folk that only lives in discreet happy and sad emotions?
Maybe, just maybe some of us have forgotten that Virginia Tech is one of the preeminent defensive and special team programs in all of college football. Dozens of college and NFL coaches would love to come to Blacksburg and learn from the disciples of the master in the same way offensive coaches want to work for Lincoln Riley
I'm not too sure it is really seen as that much anymore around the football world. People might still say it as to not burn bridges, but I doubt many think of VT much anymore. It's been awhile since we were putting out consistent top10 defenses.
People haven't forgotten about VT. We just haven't been all that dominant lately.
Glad we're making an effort to turn that around.
Well obviously people haven't forgotten VT exists lol, or that once upon a time we used to be pretty good. But the landscape is ever changing. We have been out of the picture a long time.
I think our defense has been consistently great in recent years, except for 2018,and to some degree this past season. For the remainder of the last decade, S&P Ratings were no worse than #31 (in 2010), topping out at #1 in 2013.
2019 = #38* SP+ (#49 DFEI)
2018 = #77 S&P+ (#101 DFEI)
2017 = #9 S&P+ (#17 DFEI)
2016 = #11 S&P+ (#16 DFEI)
2015 = #18 S&P+ (#49 DFEI)
2014 = #11 S&P+ (#3 DFEI)
2013 = #1 S&P+ (#3 DFEI)
2012 = #8 S&P+ (#15 DFEI)
2011 = #14 S&P+ (#32 DFEI)
2010 = #31 S&P+ (#25 DFEI)
*as of Dec 8, 2019
Is that the best metric to use? I honestly don't know. Because this almost supports my stance in a way as to how irrelevant we seem to be now considering I never hear anyone talking about our defense *despite* how highly ranked we have been the past few years.
I think the reason no one is talking about our defense or us in general any more is that we haven't been winning. Winning cures all. If we were winning more than 6 -8 games per year we would be more relevant.
Definitely fair. Probably why no one thinks about VT anymore.
I'm pretty much no one and I thinks about VT every day, and twice on Sunday.
The people who think about VT every day are the same as the people who always thought about VT every day.
Well then, that would be me.
Yeah, me too.
Yay us!
Nobody talks about anybody anymore except for a few top teams. Sports radio and TV seems to go out of their way to talk anything but sports. National talking heads don't do regional topics anymore.
Does being a D-line coach at VT improve your chances of landing a college DC job than being a D-line coach for a playoff-level NFL team? Maybe, idk.
VT D-line won't be at an elite level for a couple of years (if it get's there). It will need to recruit to get to that level. So, he's probably not getting a D-coordinator position for several years (and likely relies on getting and developing blue-chip lineman).
If that's his goal, it's a huge risk to come to VT. I think it's a great hire, I'm just a little confused by Teerlinck willingly leaving a great job in the NFL for the same job at VT. It's a unicorn of a hire.
Recruiting experience. Recruiting is a year round deal that you don't get any practice for coaching in the NFL. Obviously NFL DL job is better if you want to stay in the NFL, but if your goal is to be a college DC/HC getting the experience/relationships on the trail is critical.
yea, that's true. is VT a good place for that?
I guess, if you start at VT's D-line recruiting level and improve it to Clemson's level, then everyone will be knocking on your door. It's a huge gamble, and selfishly I hope it happens.
I think resume-wise, the NFL history strengthens the resume relative to having only NCAA experience. having said that, I think actually landing the job is probably easier to do from inside the college ranks compared to making the jump to college simply because of the timeline and rhythm of the season, and also because you're more likely to have a wider network if you're already in the college game.
But that is assuming it's his goal -- he might also just like the college game better, might have wanted to work with Fuente again, might have gotten a raise. who knows?
yea good points. It is a different network and if college DC/HC is the goal, getting back into the college game is probably the way to go.
https://hokiesports.com/news/2020/1/8/football-fuente-adds-nfl-coaching-...
This confirms why Teerlink quit coaching for the Bills: you have to live in Buffalo.
This^^^^^ In Buffalo the ground freezes and turns white sometime in late October and doesn't turn green again until sometime in April. If you don't have to live like that, who would?
We're all overthinking this.
It's the winter and he's leaving BUFFALO. Wouldn't you?
As a resident of Southern California, touche. That's a helluva point.
As bad as the winters are in Blacksburg, they are a hell of lot better than Buffalo. Just sayin' Sorry I see somebody beat me to the snow.
8 year olds, Dude.
This is a home run hire (on paper)
Welcome to the Family, Bill!
This is a fantastic hire. Credit to CJF for getting this done
The way they change once they know there on TV is hysterical, one extreme to the next.
Best part of this hire is that if J Ham is running Buds system, McDermot runs the same defense!
For anyone else like me who was intrigued by this, here is a good write-up on the defense McDermott installed in Buffalo. The Cliff's notes version is that there are indeed strong similarities between what Foster and McDermott ask their DLs to do.
Bill's defensive scheme Teerlinck has been coaching
https://www.buffalorumblings.com/2017/1/12/14236950/sean-mcdermott-buffa...
A lot of those concepts sound eerily familiar. Thanks for posting.
I'm not smart enough to know how much this deviates from Foster's defensive calls for the front 7, but I'll be surprised if we don't incorporate more zone in the secondary
Not to be picky on defensive schemes...but we're returning 2 of the best corners in college football and I'd be slightly disappointed to not see them in lockdown man coverage every play.
the option to do that is a nice luxury to be sure.
I'm not going to pretend to know the solution but one way or another staff has to figure out how to cut way back on big plays
Whatever works best for not letting your opponent score is what I'm in favor of.
I think this explains Foster's comment that J. Ham won't be making too much drastic difference in scheme, but I am curious to what kind of coverage and blitz he will be calling. Reading so far, it seem that the defensive philosophies aren't too much different from Foster/Wiles where they want small and fast defensive linemen to penetrate and stop the run.
Meanwhile, in Charlottesville....
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Actually the Sabre is saying that our DL transfers and McClease going pro shows that we are trending down while they are trending up.
Pretty hard to say we are trending down if we are bringing everyone back. Yeah, the McClease loss is actually pretty big I think, he was becoming a monster, but hardly a downward trend.
Sabre.
How to bring a knife to a gun fight.
FTFY
FTFY
Man, that's some intense delusion.
Maybe he is bringing with him an Edmundi with 2 years of eligibility left?
Why does he look like he's just been taken hostage in all of the photos we're using as part of the announcement?
He ate lunch at Dietrick before photo day? We've all made that mistake
Nah. He got the D2 sushi for dinner...
Life on the sidelines
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Interesting that in both of the interviews, he spoke about how much he loves the small town atmosphere (Remind anyone of Blacksburg?). The counterpoint is that in the interview for Nevada and the Buffalo Bills interview, he essentially said "here is where I want to be," but then he did not stay.
It probably was where he wanted to be during And after the interview...until the next opportunity that came up that was where he wanted to be even more. Welcome to college sports and the workplace of the 21st century.
This is going plaid, isn't it?
Holy crap, this is about the sweetest thing I've seen in a while.
Thanks for posting.
Hopefully Pete gets all the coaches kids together for something like this.
I died laughing during their pancake discussion π€£
I'm alive now.
1 - its never, ever, ever a bad thing to load up a college coaching staff with guys who have legitimate NFL coaching experience. Especially at this level, where the expectation is that we are developing kids to play in the NFL.
2 - I still want to see how he does on the recruiting trail before making my decision on whether or not it was as good a hire as everyone seems to say. Not that I don't trust him to be an excellent game day coach, but so, so much of the college game is about recruiting that we really need to make that one of, if not the absolute top priority of his hiring session.
Fuente has got his posse together at this point.
I'm expecting good things.
Bro...
....Lets...
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...Go!