All-Time Virginia Tech Football Draft, Part 1

Four writers get 28 draft picks to create their All-Time Hokies Football team.

Quarantine brain has us all thinking about the past. For me, it started with watching the ACC Digital Network's highlights of every 2019 Hokie football win, and then promptly devolving into a highlight binge going back to the early 90s. I can't help myself, I need to go to a happy place, and my personal happy place involves Tyrod Taylor touchdowns and 2007 defensive onslaughts.

Luckily for me, some of my fellow TKP staffers felt the same way. So we came up with an idea to help us deep dive into nostalgia โ€” have a draft to build our all-time Virginia Tech football teams.

Four writers. 28 rounds. Bring your own schemes (you can choose your own offensive and defensive strategy, aka we can finally put Vick in a spread attack) and team building philosophies.

So Pierson, Sam, TheFifthFuller, and I sequestered ourselves and slapped together our own personal Hokie draft boards.

Here's the process: We're choosing a starting 11 on both sides of the ball. One QB, two RBs (or a fullback, dealer's choice), two WRs, one TE, five OLs (position matters less, but think of it as a real team. If anyone drafts five centers, things probably won't work out.) Four DLs (same note), three LBs, 4 DBs, 1 K, 1 P.

We'll also throw in two extra players on both sides of the ball, which can fill any position we choose. We're not specifically drafting returners, which has to be kept in mind as we draft skill players.

And with that, your first annual Virginia Tech draft is underway.

Pierson is on the clock.

Round 1

1. Pierson: Michael Vick, QB

I don't feel like this requires a ton of explanation. Vick left an indelible mark on both Virginia Tech and the quarterback position, shattering the barriers that defined the limitations of each. What Vick did on the football field was electric. Even if this draft goes to hell-in-a-handbasket for me, I could go all Madden 2004 and roll out with MV7 Every. Single. Play. And we would probably still win.

2. Sam: Bruce Smith, DE

One of the most dominant defensive players in NFL history. Bruce Smith is a timeless football player. Speed, aggression, skills, size, he's the ultimate edge rusher. You can't gameplan for him. Smith racked up 200 career sacks in the NFL, the league record. I don't think that record will be touched any time soon. He is, without a doubt, the most accomplished and dominant football player in Virginia Tech history.

3. Brian: Tyrod Taylor, QB

Look, this is a three player first round. You have a program-altering talent (Vick), one of the best pass rushers in the history of the sport (Smith), and the best all-around quarterback in Virginia Tech history. Give me Tyrod, give me a spread offense, and let's get this thing going.

4. TFF: Kevin Jones, RB

Wow, Brian, I'm going to let the best recruit in Virginia Tech history, consensus All-American part of The Untouchables, and Hokie Hall of Famer know that you just don't think he's top shelf talent. While Tech could have dropped off of a cliff after Vick left for the NFL, KJ โ€” along with Lee Suggs โ€” made sure the Hokies weren't a two-season flash, they kept standards high and set the stage for the 10-win season streak.

Round 2

1. TFF: Corey Moore, DE

Football is won in the trenches, and aside from Bruce Smith, Corey Moore was the best defensive lineman Tech's ever had. While Vick was the spark for the National Championship game run, it wouldn't have happened without the suffocating defense led by Moore. The anointer of the Terror Dome, the man who gave the crazy interview in New Orleans to take the pressure off MV7, the scariest eyes in football aside from Mike Singletary. Plus, a genuinely good dude, strangers would walk up to him on campus to say hello and he'd make them feel like he'd been waiting to see them all day.

2. Brian: Vince Hall, LB

Wow, a RB in the first round? Very Dave Gettleman of you. Not to give away the big board that I put way too much time into, but in my eyes there are three positions that significantly fall off after the top one-to-two guys. One of them is quarterback (which I took care of), and another one of them is mike. Just go ahead and give me the best linebacker to ever play under Bud Foster, and I'll figure out the rest later.

3. Sam: Jake Grove, C

It's not a sexy pick, but Jake Grove has his jersey retired for a reason. The center is the leader of the O-Line, and Grove backed up his leadership with incredible skill, and he had the athleticism to pull as a center as well as get to the second-level and block. He was the key to so many incredible rushing performances in the early 2000's, and I think he'd fit perfectly in a more modern spread offense. My offense is based off of a run-n-shoot scheme, so it requires athletic lineman, and Jake Grove was the best to ever do it at Tech.

4. Pierson: Jim Pyne, OG

Round 3

1. Pierson: Duane Brown, OT

Okay, hear me out. Historically, Virginia Tech's skill position players are pretty deep. You could talk yourself into or out of a ton of guys that, at the end of the day, all feel kind of similar. I've got a mobile, cannon-armed southpaw he likes to roll out to his strong side and survey the field. Why not beef up the left side of the offensive line with a left tackle and left guard who are physically menacing and surprisingly athletic (fun Jim Pyne stat, from his Wikipedia page: "He was named three times to Muscle and Fitnesses' NFL all strength team."). A former tight end who had a touchdown reception during his freshman year, Brown played both RT and LT at Tech and earned consecutive Second Team All-ACC honors. Pyne was a unanimous All-American, a finalist for the Lombardi Award and the Outland Trophy in 1993, and was a nine year NFL veteran.

2. Sam: Kam Chancellor, SS

Tone setter. Playmaker. Puts the fear of God into any receiver coming across the middle. Can come up and play the run like a linebacker, but also has the speed to defend the back end. You need guys like this to lead your defense. Chancellor went from under recruited quarterback to future hall-of-famer strong safety โ€” that's peak Lunch Pail Defense.

3. Brian: Eugene Chung, OT

Tech's reputation as DBU is actually hurting the stock of all (or most) of the defensive backs in this draft. There are just so many of them, it's tough to spend a high pick when quality will be available later. I'll take Chung, the number two tackle on my board. He was a stud, 6'5", 290 and fast enough to lead block on screens. He's the perfect modern tackle, not to mention an eventual first round pick and the only OT in Tech history to be named first team All-American.

4. TFF: Kendall Fuller, CB

If you didn't see this coming, then you haven't been paying attention to me, ever. This pick is probably too early, but I would be shamed out of the Fuller clan if I didn't nab Kendall. The Hokies latest five-star recruit, Kendall was the jewel in the crown of the greatest family to ever play for the Hokies.

Round 4

1. TFF: Xavier Adibi, LB

You may have noticed that I am following the philosophy of the last decade, where the Hokies don't bother with an offensive line, let the running back figure it out on their own, and defer to the defense to carry the team. Adibi was a bad man, partnered up with Vince Hall, and I've got a standout at all three levels of the defense.

2. Brian: DeAngelo Hall, CB

At some point, you just have to pick the best player on the board. There's a very good case to be made that DeAngelo is the best all-around football player to ever come to Blacksburg, and I get him as a corner and a punt returner. It's easy to overlook Hall in the wave of DBs to play for Bud, but there's a reason he was drafted in the top-10. There's a reason he ran five punts back for scores in two seasons as a returner. There's a reason he was the one to rip the ball from Roscoe Parrish. It's not an accident. He's one of the best Hokies ever.

3. Sam: Eddie Royal, WR

The perfect run-n-shoot slot WR, Royal has the speed and elusiveness to take short, quick routes and turn them into big games. He can stretch defense down the seam, and can even run a mean jet sweep. One of the keys to the run-n-shoot is attacking the area between the safeties and linebackers. To do that, you need to be able to stretch out the safeties and also give the illusion that you can either run or do a quick route near the line of scrimmage on every play. Royal is perfect for putting a defense on their heels like that. I think he is one of those players that just came along a few years too early, he would've flourished in a more wide open offense. I'll also be able to use him on special teams, which is a big plus.

4. Pierson: Cornell Brown, DE

I'm continuing my theme of gobbling up strong players at historically shallow positions. Cornell Brown is the pick here to man the Stud position for my squad. A two-time All-American for Frank Beamer's 1995 & 1996 teams, Brown was an absolute force on the edge during his time in Blacksburg. His 36 career sacks rank second all-time at Virginia Tech, and his 14-sack season in 1995 is bested only by Bruce Smith and Corey Moore.

Round 5

1. Pierson: Darryl Tapp, DE

Before he was lighting up the Twittersphere as the Hutch to Bill Teerlinck's Starksy, Darryl Tapp was a two-time All-ACC player on some of Virginia Tech's most talented defensive teams. Playing the End position in Bud Foster's scheme, Tapp terrorized opposing defenses and provided a steady presence opposite Chris Ellis. He arguably epitomized the Lunch Pail Defensive attitude as well as any other player under Foster. His brute strength on the field ran counter to his bookish appearance off of it. It's my favorite part about Tapp. He's so damn likeable. A genuinely nice guy that always knew how to flip the switch under the bright lights and become a mean dude.

2. Sam: David Wilson, RB

2011 ACC Player of the Year, Wilson was maybe the most electric back, along with KJ, to ever play for Virginia Tech. He excels in running out of the spread formation and is an excellent pass catcher, which fits my offense well. Wilson finished his career with 2,662 yards rushing and 18 rushing touchdowns in just 3 seasons. He amassed over 3,000 total offensive yards, averaging almost 6 YPC and 10 YPR. Without a gruesome neck injury, he would've been a really solid NFL player for the Giants and sure-fire bet to help you win your fantasy league.

3. Brian: Brandon Flowers, CB

Should I panic-grab a pass rusher now that my top four are all off the board? NOPE. If there's one thing I won't do it's let Pierson, of all people, get in my head. Let me just go ahead and grab the second best corner in Tech history and pair him with the best corner in Tech history. We're a no-fly zone, and we'll figure out the pass rush later.

4. TFF: Blake DeChristopher, OT

Almost as an afterthought, I have an offensive line I need to flesh out. I almost forgot about DeChristopher, a four year starter and a road-grader for the three headed monster of Darren Evans, Ryan Williams and David Wilson. Plus, the beard!

Round 6

1. TFF: Wyatt Teller, OG

On the other side of the line, Teller was an ornery dude with an attitude that he took out on opponents. Plus, I am now ensuring that my team is well fed with a healthy diet of pancakes.

2. Brian: Tremaine Edmunds, LB

While I would obviously prefer to have Adibi here, pairing Tremaine with Vince Hall gives me an unrivaled linebacking core. While Vince is there to plug up the middle, Edmunds was created via genetic mutation to be the best possible linebacker against the spread. Let's go sideline-to-sideline and hit people.

3. Sam: John Engelberger, DT

A Edge/Tackle hybrid, Engelberger was one of the primary reasons that the '99 Hokies were so dominant on defense. He's one of those sneaky strong players that can take advantage of larger, more cumbersome lineman. He was a second round pick in the 2000 NFL draft, and was a second-team All-American in 1999.

4. Pierson: Torrian Gray, Safety

The patriarch of DBU, Torrian is going to be the quarterback of my defense, much the same way he was for those early Bud Foster units. The fact that he has gone on to be a highly successful coach should be enough, but Gray was a standout safety during his time in Blacksburg. A three-time All-Big East selection, Gray combined his football acumen with a heavy shoulder to win two conference titles, the 1995 Sugar Bowl and help propel the program to new heights.

Round 7

1. Pierson: Lee Suggs, RB

Here's the case for Suggs: Ranked 5th all-time in career touchdowns (53) and the only non-quarterback on the list; his 27 touchdowns in 2000 are 5th most in a single season (again, only non-quarterback in that group); scored 5 touchdowns in a game in 2000 against UCF; ranks 6th in Tech history in rushing yardage; epitomized the BeamerBall mindset, often playing special teams despite being the team's starting tailback; and was essentially a battering ram in between the tackles and in the open field. Put simply, the dude was a machine. I considered pairing speed with Vick, but decided to go with the best tailback on the board. I like the flexibility it provides.

2. Sam: James Anderson, LB

In my mind, one of the more underrated players under Bud Foster ever. Anderson racked up 218 tackles in only 28 starts from 2002-04, and then became a third round pick of the Panthers and was in the NFL until 2015. In 2012, Anderson recorded a Panthers franchise record 20 tackles against the Giants. For my squad, he's a solid OLB and a tackling machine.

3. Brian: Ryan Williams, RB

Look me in my virtual, quarantined eyes and tell me that 2009 Ryan Williams wasn't the most dominant season from a Virginia Tech running back we've ever seen. 1,655 yards, 5.6 YPC, 21 TDs, and allowed Tyrod to blossom into the reliable, turnover-resistant QB we love. He was only great for one season, but we only need him at his peak. Pair '09 Williams with '10 Tyrod (something that was painfully close to happening if not for a bum Williams hamstring) and we're looking at a dynamic backfield.

4. TFF: Tim Settle, DT

Settle didn't have eye popping stats in his two seasons for the Hokies, but dude was just a huge slab of disruption up the middle of the line. I've got speed on the outside, and now I just need someone to clog everything up in the middle and force everything out to Moore and Adibi.

Comments

No Danny Coale?

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

He caught that damn ball!

I can imagine no more rewarding a career. And any man who may be asked in this century what he did to make his life worthwhile, I think can respond with a good deal of pride and satisfaction:
โ€œI served in the United States Navy"

KCCO

This is an incredibly fun exercise. I, too, often forget about James Anderson. Dude was a damn stud.

Amateur superstar and idiot extraordinaire.

He's a tackling machine! Also had a fantastic NFL career.

He was in that time period where we just subbed in seniors at LB who hadn't started before. Brenden Hill, Purnell Sturdivant, and Steven Friday all came in as first-time starter seniors and killed it.

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

Friday was a DE, and he may have been the worst starting DE of the Beamer era.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

8.5 sacks and 15 TFL? That's more sacks than anyone has had since Ekanem in 2014.

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

Keep in mind, that's when our DE's actually got sacks. It's like WR stats now. Anybody going to argue that Damon Hazelton is a better receiver than Eddie Royal?

Hazelton got more yards because we passed the ball more. Did Friday get more sacks because we rushed the passer more?

Even if so, it's still not close enough to make a fair comparison.

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

My point is that yes, our scheme was different on defense then, but moreso offenses have changed. When the QB is in the shotgun running RPO 80% of the time, it's harder for our guys to get sacks.

Yeah, when was the last time you saw a College QB line up under center and take a seven step drop?

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Go back and watch the tape. He played undisciplined football and wasn't gap sound, even less than Dadi Nicholas as a senior. He got sacks and TFLs because he was running upfield without being gap sound. It wasn't an accident that the 2010 defense was historically bad against the run.

Bud pulled a miracle by somehow convincing OCs to stop running the ball and trying to throw that season, right into INT after INT. Turnovers changed the outcomes of NC State and Miami right off the top of my head. Both teams were running rampant and decided to start throwing.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

I'll believe that, but as a fan I'd take an unsound pass rusher with 15 TFLs and 8.5 sacks than a guy who's not productive behind the LOS against the pass. I know a coach might not agree but let's be real I'm gonna like the 8.5 sack guy than the 4.5 sack guys we've had the past 5 years.

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

Why would you take that?

As I understand it, on the plays he didn't get the tackle, he was giving up easy yards. You want a player that makes 24 good plays a year in exchange for most of the rest of them being bad?

I love seeing sacks, but I love keeping points off the board more.

The worst was Miami running sprint draws at Friday all day. Lamar Miller had to have averaged 10 per carry that day. Thank god the Miami OC let Stephen Morris throw the ball or that was a big L.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

I have a special fondness for that 2008 team (Purnell Sturdivant mention sparked this train of thought). I have long considered doing a little TKP write up on why it's so special to me and emblematic of the best (and sometimes worst) things about the VT football program in the 2000's. I think I may actually do it soon since this pandemic has given time for lots of these retrospectives.

That team with an offense that even had a slight pulse would have been a MNC contender.

'08 was still a win of a season because it was supposed to be a rebuilding year. Tyrod as a sophomore, an unknown RB room, a bunch of underclassmen receivers, and a low recruit Barquell Rivers at Mike. Still won the ACC and Orange Bowl.

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

Brian got the best corner in VT history (Flowers) as the third CB taken... talk about a great value pick.

Also did well at RB. I'm not gonna say RW is the BEST, but he's gotta be in the conversation for me. I guess unless we're considering the injury bits.

VT Class of '12 (MSE), MVBone, Go Hokies!

We have a lot of good ones to choose from (Suggs, Jones, Wilson, RMFW), but I agree I don't know who I would say was the best but I usually lean Ryan Williams. I think he would have been a 10 year NFL guy if he didn't have severe injuries in the NFL to his knee and shoulder. Such is the luck (or misfortune) of the draw for backs in the NFL.

No Shayne Graham in the first round? HAH!

Jason Worilds has to be next DL pick, right? People forget about how dominant he was in 08-09.

Maybe, but if I'm drafting, I keep picking best available until worilds is gone and then pick up the slightly less talented, but younger Jason Adjepong.

My wife takes the kids and leaves the house while I watch my Hokie games.........nuff said

I'm going with Pierson's so far. The 2 best OL we've ever had, and the Vick/Suggs combo sold me. But all 4 D's are looking to be great.

HTHokie93

Jake Grove would like to have a word with you...

I think he means in the last 17 years, because there are a couple old timers that would also have words.

Jim Pyne was an All American and Duane Brown is still going strong. Both were fantastic. My $.02. ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿปโ€โ™‚๏ธ

HTHokie93

Maybe I missed it but how are we going to decide who's team is the best? I am guessing a poll but I think it would be cool if we could simulate it in one of the football video games.

anyone else going to be disappointed if TheFifthFuller doesn't end up with Corey at WR, Kyle and Kendall at CB, and Vinny at Safety?

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I can confirm that this will not happen. However, you will not be disappointed. Trust the process.

If i had to guess which of you four would draft Joel Embiid in this exercise, it definitely would be you

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

You guys should have consulted me first. No friggin way Flowers should not have been the first defensive back pick. And, if Antonio Freeman or Carrol Dale isn't the first WR, well that is just indefensible.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

guess what, neither antonio freeman nor carrol dale was the first WR taken

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

INDEFENSIBLE CHUMPS

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

Recency bias, that's what it is.

Take the shortest route to the ball and arrive in bad humor.

Does Freeman qualify for the TE spot?

Whatever. It was one bad year.

Seasonal Brew means High ABV for football season and standard the rest of the year.

No, only during the O'Cainspring era players can qualify for the TE spot, in which case all players are eligible for the TE/QB spot.

Only if he can play QB...

HTHokie93

French, they way this is going I think the all-snubs team will be a pretty darn good team.

Brian's CB pairing is already going to be the best. Sorry Fuller.

I just sit on my couch and b*tch. - HokieChemE2016

You may have noticed that I am following the philosophy of the last decade, where the Hokies don't bother with an offensive line, let the running back figure it out on their own

This brings back memories of Branden Ore.

Marshall University graduate.
Virginia Tech fanatic.
Formerly known as JWillHokieAlum.

I feel like I almost did this in French's non hall of fame thread. But with his limitations, didn't get to have as much fun.

Someone draft Hunter Carpenter, quick!

A couple thoughts on this. This reminds me of some of the incredible talent that has come out of Blacksburg. I also wonder how an all-time best VT squad would do against the all time best of some other schools. The defensive talent we've put out is pretty amazing and we've had some absolute studs on offense.

The other thought - how would this exercise potentially benefit recruiting? With names like Vick and Taylor, an all-time VT best list tweeted to someone like DD with a "come add your name to best QBs to come out of Tech" or similar message. Or best CB. Or "can you beat Bruce Smith's numbers - Tapp and Teerlink are sure gonna help you see." Or "Kam Chancellor retired - looking for the next Hokie to lay the boom in Blacksburg and the NFL."

this is already being done by literally every fan base on twitter

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I guess I should join the twitter. I used it briefly, but got flooded with way more than I could hope to take in. Guess I'll try again.

just dont tweet at recruits

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

I've seen enough on here to know better than that.

just PLS dont tweet at recruits

FTFY

Directions from Blacksburg to whoville, go north till you smell it then go east until you step in it

Where's Sean Glennon in the first tweet?

Spinning, just prior to fumbling or taking a sack, doesn't count as mobile.

FOUND HIM!!

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Nah, that ain't him. Too mobile.

Never Forget #1 Overall Seed UVA 54, #64 UMBC 74

Ryan Williams in Round 7 is a steal. Ben Taylor making it past round 7 is unforgivable.

Gobble Till You Wobble

Ben Taylor gets gobbled up almost immediately in our second round of picks (coming soon!). I might know the guy who snatched him up...

Ben Taylor was the shit.

My wife takes the kids and leaves the house while I watch my Hokie games.........nuff said

Maybe I missed it, but how many rounds are you guys doing? Are you filling out the rest of the roster via UDFA?

edit.....should have waited 30 seconds and refreshed.

Take the shortest route to the ball and arrive in bad humor.

Wow, I would have not taken a RB, WR, or DB by now. I could take 13-16th best DB and had a bunch of guys that played in the NFL. There are still 4/5 career rushing leaders left on the board.

I really would have gone for Oline first (unless I could get Vick or tyrod). DT is a tough spot too.

EDIT: I meant DT not DL. Lots of great edge rushers

Wow, I would have not taken a RB, WR, or DB by now. I could take 13-16th best DB and had a bunch of guys that played in the NFL. There are still 4/5 career rushing leaders left on the board.

Considering a unanimous All-American DB is still on the board, I would have to agree with this.

I was actually thinking about Jimmy Williams...but yeah, Kyle Fuller was pretty good at football as well.

I want to throw out names but I want to see who is left off first.

Yep, agree, I would have made a run on OL and DT after Vick, Tyrod, and Bruce were gone. There's just so much amazing DB talent that there will be worthy guys who go undrafted.

If it got thin, I might take a late round flyer on Greg Nosal just because of the finger incident.

Robert Brown should be a d lineman- one of Va. Tech greats- pretty good pro career also.

Its looking to me like Brian and Pierson have the early lead with a long way and a lot of talent to go.

Whatever. It was one bad year.

Seasonal Brew means High ABV for football season and standard the rest of the year.

Best part of that David Wilson TD return clip (besides the score) was Jesse Palmer's "bye"

KYLE FULLER IS STILL ON THE BOARD?!?!?!

as is Most Recent First Round Pick Terrell Edmunds ๐Ÿ’โ€โ™‚๏ธ

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

RW, then Suggs, 2 best running backs I have seen at Tech since 1990. Jones and Wilson were better athletes, not better running backs.

eric

"My advice to you... is to start drinking heavily."-John Blutarsky

Darren Evans is still closest to my heart. Which is why I shouldn't draft or gamble.

so 5th, 6th, 7th or humes, stith, and ore, i would really need to think about.

eric

"My advice to you... is to start drinking heavily."-John Blutarsky

Humes and Ore will always have a special place in my heart.

Evans is great because he always fell forward, and had a nose for the goal line. He would have never lost - what was it? 30? 40? - yards from running backwards as David Wilson did in that bowl game with the ball inside the 5. Darren Evans was like a modern-day Larry Czonka.

Agree and disagree

Suggs and Williams were my guys as well. But Jones was a tremendous instinctive back. Wilson I agree on.

I also had a soft spot for bowling pins like Dwayne Thomas, Ken Oxendine, and Shyrone Stith. Ore also had some big time talent but no head. All had a better feel for playing RB. None were Wilson level athletes.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

Cyrus Lawrence could tote the mail. 3700 + yds, single season record of 1403 broken by KJ. Billy ran the hell out of him- and he was a bull. a blast from the past.

Cyrus was an incredibly instinctive tailback. Hite always said that working him too much was the biggest coaching mistake he made. Would have loved to see him with a better offense around him, and maybe a good back to spell him off the bench a bit more.

Take the shortest route to the ball and arrive in bad humor.

Cyrus and I rehabbed after knee surgery together back in 83. He would have been a good pro back, but knee surgeries were not the best at that time. He was tough, compact, and hit the hole with authority.

I feel very fortunate to have seen both Cyrus and Bruce while I was a student.

Take the shortest route to the ball and arrive in bad humor.

There are all kinds of ways to look at this. Duane Brown and Kam Chancellor- if you looked purely on their college careers and ignored their pro careers, would not be remotely close to the top of this list. Duane was still learning and was drafted much more based on upside than his college performance. And Kam experienced a renaissance of popularity as a pro. As his college career ended, he caught a lot of grief for coverage snafus.

If you are basing your selections purely based on their college career, the top players at each position look like this:

QB: Vick, Taylor, Strock, Druck, Deshazo
RB: Jones, Williams, Suggs, Wilson
WR: Freeman, Davis, Ford, Still, Wilford
OL: Pyne, Grove, Chung
DE: Smith, Moore, Brown
DT: Price, Settle, J. Lewis or D. Hopkins
LB: Hall Adibi Del Ricco J. Smith Myron Newsome (no Anderson- pure NFL pick, was ok not great in college)
CB: Flowers, Kyle Fuller, D Hall, Kendall Fuller
S: Lots of ways you can go.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

CB: Flowers, Kyle Fuller, D Hall, Kendall Fuller
S: Lots of ways you can go.

No Jimmy Williams? Or would move him to S?

Jimmy Williams actually struggled as a free safety his FR/SO years...was nowhere near the FS that he was boundary corner.

Interesting, JW was a little before my time (started at VT in 2006), I'm curious why he doesn't get the love the rest of the corners get when he was the most decorated.

He remains the only player to meet the Jersey Retirement criteria (All American in a major publication) and not be recognized.

Do you know why he hasn't been recognized? I thought if you met the criteria it was an automatic thing?

I have no idea why. I am wondering that myself. I distinctly remember Weaver's press conference when they added the banner numbers to Lane stating that basically if you were a VT football player and were a first team all american in a major publication and/or won a major award (main reason for putting Beamer's up right away) you were automatic. Well Jimmy was a first team CB from the sporting news IIRC. He should be up there. Hopefully one day.

Seems odd to me. This is the wording on the VT website:

In 2002, the Virginia Tech athletics department developed a new policy on retiring jerseys. This special honor is bestowed to acknowledge an individual who has won an established national award in their sport, while allowing the number to continue to be worn by others. Tech will no longer retire numbers.

Hopefully one day we'll see his name on a banner in Lane!

The iconic JW play, in my mind, was him running down and horse collaring a Wahoo rb that broke loose. Can't remember if it was JW's bust or not but he laid out full extension to save the TD.

Doesn't hurt that the tackle happened right in front of me standing in the South stands with the HTs.

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I remember his sick pick in the Sugar Bowl against Auburn. Textbook jumped an out route, made the pic diving on the sideline. a 10 year pro and NFL starter Jason Campbell threw the pic, BTW

as a student then, and no tivo to rewind and such, a lot of time he didnt stand out. So you missed how good he was, like French said Nud gave him half a field and dared people to throw his way. If no one throws his way and you have a handle of bourbon in you then you miss those things. Watching tape of him he stands out so much more, but when you have DHall pretending to be Deion, others get overshadowed.

Jimmy Williams would have been my next corner, and honestly if I had watched the Miami film from his last year before picking, he would move up. He took away half the field that game and Bud just rolled coverage to the other side.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

As his college career ended, he caught a lot of grief for coverage snafus.

When you move a natural rover to free, that's how it goes.

No, I *don't* want to go to the SEC. Why do you ask?

We don't love dem Hoos.

#FREETHEFIFTHFULLER!

I can't wait to see who picks up Drew Harris.

If you don't want to recruit clowns, don't run a clown show.

"I want to punch people from UVA right in the neck." - Colin Cowherd

if there's one thing Drew is great at, it's making you wait

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Still so much upside to his college career.

He comes as a package deal with Jahad Carter

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Jahad Carter will be attending Syracuse in the fall. Big news!

Well he signed his NLI. Who knows what will happen

"Why gobble gobble chumps asks such good questions, I will never know." - TheFifthFuller

Y'all took 3 linebackers and none was named Mike Johnson?

Waiting for Cody Grimm to come off the board

If you want level-headed opinions, don't go on a message board or sports forums

Give them to me healthy and I take Cam Martin first. He was really damn good, but injuries derailed him. That was one hell of a whip rotation between him and Grimm.

Five star get after it 100 percent Juice Key-Playing. MAN

You think anyone got his brother Orion Martin?

If you want level-headed opinions, don't go on a message board or sports forums

When he came off the board the group message blew up.... all of us were trying to get him at the same time