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Your scenario implies that we just defeated a 12-0 FSU to take the ACC. Coupled with a win at OSU, I say very little chance we get left out of the playoffs at 12-1.

Only way I see it even really being possible would be if Wake was the loss. Clusterfuck of a game super late in the season while all the other contenders are rolling.

There was no excuse for JMU or Temple either. Just a disaster of a game, where every weakness of or program defined us for four quarters. You can think that game is the yardstick to measure thus year's team, or you can think the same about the OSU game. TBH, I disagree that we're a bad team this year, we're just a horribly inconsistent team that possibly played in the worst game of college football ever.

As for talent, add the fact that we simply are not DEEP enough across the board to win a NC. Some of our first string is as good as any team in the nation, but in several spots we're one injury away from hitting the panic button. And I don't just mean this season, I mean as a trend.

I would not be surprised to see that, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Big XII's bullshit spineless decision to declare Baylor and TCU co-champions when Baylor beat TCU head to head plays into the decision.

I swear that conference is held together with bubble gum and the dried tears of Longhorn fans.

Isn't there a very, very small number of 5 star players in any given recruiting cycle?

I know 247 has somewhat supplanted Rivals as the de facto gurus of recruiting, but I seem to remember back when I followed recruiting more closely about ten years ago or so, there were typically only a dozen or so 5 stars in any given year. Sometimes not even ten. Does this still ring true? Has that number gone up?

Reason I ask, if the number of 5 stars is still tiny, that tells me that the recruiting services have done their homework and, yes, there is something special about this kid. 5 stars is a more meaningful, concrete declaration of ability than 4 stars. And I don't mean a 5 star is better than a 4 star (duh), I mean you can trust that a 5 star player really IS a 5 star player. As someone else pointed out, a player can bump from 3 stars (or even 2) to 4 stars by virtue of who recruits them. There's way more guesswork when we get down to 3 and 4 star players, and the line dividing those two categories is pretty nebulous.

No, the purpose of any playoff is to determine a champion, which is a significantly different thing than a mythical "best" team.

The BCS was a turd on a stick because it was built on the asinine assertion that it could somehow determine the two "best" teams on paper and pair them for a championship game.

Bullshit.

There is no way to objectively determine a "best" team, because a team that's 12-0 could be given fits by a team with five losses, if said team presents a unique situational nightmare. If every team in the FBS played used the same offensive scheme and played the same base defense then we could have a pretty good argument who is the best team. But there's just too many variables in today's college game to be able to do that definitively.

Give up on determining the best team and just go with crowning a champion.

I see your point, but even when playing a team with less talent, it's still four quarters of football and the risk of injury is high. Chances are there won't be a world of difference between the 4 and 5 seed. Making the 5 seed play an extra game makes their road to the championship significantly more perilous even if it's a gimmie on paper.

Also if you are playing the first two rounds at the higher seeded team's location, a bye week takes hundreds of thousands of dollars out of the top four teams' local economies and dumping it into the economies of teams 5 thru 8.

I'd want 16 if we go this route. I think we'd need more than two wildcard spots in this scenario because I think it's fair to say the loser of a P5 championship game being excluded for the Sun Belt champion is questionable. Plus I don't know if I support the idea of a bye week for the top four seeds. Then you get into the argument of the 5 seed getting really screwed over when the top seeding will be so subjective.

I think at this point it's inevitable, it's just a question of when. With that accepted as a given, a couple of things:

1) Having the quarters at the higher ranked team's stadium is a great idea, but could be problematic for teams like Miami and Pitt that play in a municipal stadium. An extra game on short notice night not be feasible. So there'd have to be something in there for if the higher ranked team is incapable of hosting the game.

2) If we expand to an 8 team bracket, there will probably need to be done codified metric that grants a non-P5 team a berth. Right now there a nudge nudge, wink wink agreement that the mid-majors have access to the playoffs because the selection committee is theoretically free to invite one of those teams. If you explicitly guarantee the P5 conference champions a playoff berth, you have to give access to the midmajors as well so long as they meet some threshold.

Other than that, I say bring on the 8. I said when this arrangement was first made, this is a four team tournament, not a true playoff. Playoffs grant access to divisional or conference champions to determine a league champion on the field. Without at least the P5 conference champs getting an automatic bid, we remain short of a true college football playoff.

On the years the Rose Bowl does not host a playoff game, they will still attempt to host a B1G/PAC-12 matchup as far as is possible. So the only real way we'd play in the Rose Bowl is to make the playoffs in a year they host it.

I realize now I was getting Settle and Tolliver confused. Knew there was one guy who took an official that we were a long shot.

Thanks. I only dabble in recruiting, and only in the players we land.

To be clear, by flirt with top 10 I meant low teens, so sounds like that might actually be a reachable goal

So hypothetically if we finish strong we could flirt with a top ten class assuming no attrition? Fair to say?

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