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But at some point, shit or get off the pot.

We have no leverage. If Franklin doesn't coach here, someone is going to hire him. And if we start trying to throw around a big dick, with the actual program we have right now, that's how you end up with a situation of everyone turning you down and needing to resort to a career assistant coach like Brent Pry.

We aren't good enough to act like that anymore. Like it or not, we're at a point where we need to have patience and let this play out.

Yep, 8 year $11.6m per year contract with a $15m buyout to paid immediately to Indiana if he gets hired before Nov 30, 2026.

Getting him is a complete and utter pipe dream

Me too man haha it's hit or miss when I try to do it

Auburn came open less than 48 hours ago. I get wanting a quick resolution to this, but if you think we're going to get any answer from Franklin or his agent without them doing due diligence on the possibility of being the HC at Auburn, we're only fooling ourselves.

We have the potential to be a good to great football program, but right now we are dogshit. We are only playing ourselves the fool if we try to play hardball with any top coach who is interested in coaching here. We just need patience, and if he goes to Auburn, it is what it is, its legitimately a better job than VT.

That said, I do suspect the interest from Auburn to Franklin isn't as strong as we would think. They have their sights set on someone with a higher perceived ceiling than Franklin.

I am with you. Move on to the next choice. Time to either crash and burn with the G5 coach or exceed beyond expectations like Cignetti.

Announcing this hire during an ACC Network Extra basketball game at a time when probably half of the people that would be watching don't have access would have been so dumb. Also, I can't believe it didn't happen.

If no announcement in the next day or two, we need to be talking with the next option(s). Not saying we can't continue talks and keep the door open for Franklin, but we can't wait around forever. He either wants the job or he doesn't. To a certain extent I understand some time to make some back channel calls/talks to assemble a staff and gauge player interests. But again, have to be prepared for contingencies and can't let this drag out forever with all eggs in one basket.

I still feel like ultimately we get this done though. But the whole process and agent games is tiresome.

When it comes to the next coach I am clearly out here just trying to read tea leaves. With that said I do think Franklin comes to VT obviously I have no idea when.— Adam Boitnott (@Boitnott) November 4, 2025

He doesn't appear to be in the know, via himself

It was great to see things didn't dissolve when the starters were out. It is nice to have more than one point guard who can actually bring the ball up the court and not turn it over. Bodes well for late in the season having a deep bench.

memory is the third thing to go.

fine...and what are the first two?

i'm sure there were a few Benjamin's involved as well