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My opinion of Bud has always been that of your company's top engineer who can be pulled into deal meetings to explain the technical concerns/concepts, persuade the client that it will work as intended, etc. But then he leaves and the CEO type takes over with the glad-handing, negotiations, and seals the deal. I never have seen Bud as one of those CEO guys. Very similar, in fact, to Kliff Kingsbury. Seemed like a terrible HC from what I saw on Hard Knocks for Arizona, but he has been doing an incredible job at Washington as OC, his bread & butter.
Also assuming Pry can swallow his pride.
That's an absolutely enormous assumption.
With all that said, probably too much to overcome to actually happen.
Yes, indeed
I generally don't like Franklin, but I can't deny that getting a HC that's done time at a big dog program as a head whistle would be a game changer.
Agree. I just hope the analogy ends if/when there is a separation of Franklin from VT. Until Buzz started to stick his foot out the door, VT was on a rising path in MBB. But once it was apparent that Buzz was only looking out for himself, I feel like the VT administration thought the momentum would carry itself, that things would just fall into place for MBB to continue to see success. But it has been a roller coaster ride with Young ever since. I attribute a decent amount of the blame on Young, himself, due to his unique style of recruiting and coaching. But a lot of the blame is on the administration for not being anywhere aggressive enough if its support to make sure the program did not slip back into its old, mediocre ways. But here we are.
I don't want there to be a meteoric rise (relatively speaking) in the football program, thanks to hiring Franklin (or someone like him), then he leaves for probably big dog program reasons, and we fail to remember to keep the pedal floored to get the best or do the best we possibly can. It's not a concept of achieving a certain orbit and staying there forever. Your level of orbit is constantly decaying unless you keep giving it more boost, all the time.
I've told this story before, but the spring before his first season I took my daughter and some of her friends to watch a softball game at VT. After the game we went to PK's, and Pry was there talking to people as if he were just another fan. We spoke for a bit and he took a picture with the kids. I shook his hand and wished him good luck on the season. He patted me on the shoulder and thanked us for supporting VT.
You don't get that with many D1 coaches.
I mean I would think that is a normal thing as well especially with the climate and time of year we are in. Even if it was after the year you can only wait on a guy for so long.
It doesn't seem out of the ordinary like we are trying to play hardball it's just "Hey if it's gonna be a no we want to know now so we aren't stuck in late January with our other options already scarfed up b/c you took your sweet time."
As a Commanders and Hokies fan, I am excited to at least see my teams get beat in cool uniforms this weekend.
Wow, I bet the new helmet will help tech defeat Louisville
If the reports are true that we have offered and have a Monday deadline, then that is absolutely the VT team working on plans B-G.
I think the general feel is that we like Pry, he just wasn't a good head coach.
The people I speak to are disappointed that he didn't work out because personally we like the guy.
Making CFB coaching carousel predictions is generally a fool's game. However, I feel 100% confident in predicting that Brent Pry would not be a part of Franklin's staff here if we land him
We better be working on Plans B-G if/when this falls through, don't wanna be caught flat-footed like we were with the last search
So he gets fired and replaced, then his replacement offers him a job but the guy who fired him is still there and a huge swath of the fanbase has been saying, "I'm so glad he's gone", "that guy sucked", "anyone but him".
I feel like that might be a bridge too far.
The now I think about it, I think the optics of hiring him back under Franklin would show there is no bad blood and we don't hold grudges. That could pay off down the line with future searches, especially in this climate
Buzz on the other sites is that the offer is out, Sexton is playing his usual hardball, and there's an ultimatum of a decision by EOD Monday.
SOUP OR SALAD?
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# | The Argument for James Franklin to be the next VT Football Coach Monica looked alright, but her OCD made her a little less attractive. Rachel had her faults, but she always had her headlights on. And for a coming of age teenager while that show made its run, the high beams were a big perk.
personally, i would prefer to keep siefkes. i would love to see what he could do with some actual ACC-caliber players
Pry is an elite DC.
Penn State Defense rankings from sports reference:
2010 49
2011 5
2012 16
2013 60
2014 7
2015 27
2016 47
2017 7
2018 23
2019 8
2020 55
2021 7
2022 10
2023 3
2024 8
Brent Pry coached their defense from 2016 to 2021. Penn State was already pretty good at defense before he arrived and have been even better since he left. I'm not sure how much of his defensive success was him vs Penn State. It seems like they've just recruited really well and have been kind of plug-and-play from a DC standpoint. I'm not sure he can really be called an ELITE DC. Serviceable to good, for sure. But elite? I'm not sold.
One might even refer to him as Brent Pryrite
Why would he want to jump into another job with the same if not worse expectations?
Because most CFB coaches are arrogant enough that they think they can meet if not surpass expectations?
You have to understand that these guys are just built different than you and I and think different than you and I. They are supremely competitive and want to win at the highest level.
Yeah you're right.....
Seeing how he was let go at Penn State...unrealistic expectations.....
Why would he want to jump into another job with the same if not worse expectations? And why would a school with those expectations hire him if they see he "can't win the big game"?
I'm speaking primarily of LSU and UF, potentially FSU as well. I mean at LSU if he doesn't win a natty in the first 4 years they'll want him out.
At tech he could get us to 8-10 win seasons again and ACCCG appearances and we would be lovin' it. He could worry about the big games then or get hired off then to another place but we'd be way better situation than we are now.
Not sure why I posted in another thread to maybe wait on an announcement....
As long as the buyout at least covers our rent for the year and maybe next years salary, I would be good with it.
Pry is an elite DC. At least, he has been. I would imagine he is also damn good at the dinner table with mama. Not having the pressure of being HC....if he were willing to do something totally out of character for most people, be humble, I could see it working. It would be weird at first, but so is the offseason. Especially this offseason.
Good stuff!