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If that is a case, I want the next PSU coach to be a die hard Nike fan who wants Addidas gone just for the chaos.

Crist is essentially the QB coach. Montgomery spent some time with the QB's when he was the OC, along with Crist. But less time for that now that he's got HC responsibilities.

That's not a position we ever want to be in. Google "Bobby Lowder Auburn" for some fun stories - just a guy with a metric ton of money and influence that was a chaos agent

Boosters with more money than brains is also how you end up with Bill Belichick being hired by UNC before the Athletic Director even knew about it

Beamer had us in that usurper tier in the 2000s. We unfortunately just got complacent and refused to keep pace, eventually getting lapped by Clemson and others.

James Franklin won at Vanderbilt before anyone else ever had. Clark Lea can thank James Franklin for paving that path.

Do I love his personality or in-game blunders? Not at all. But he is an EXCELLENT college football coach who wins everywhere he goes. I'd take him in a New York minute.

Fair, but seems weird they struck this huge deal in September then. He was very much still the coach and seemed entrenched, even if some fans thought he wasn't good enough. No one expected him to lose these 2 games as massive favorites.

Imagine if years ago we found out Nike wanted to fire frank beamer because we lost to JMU and then the school pulled the trigger. Not the same situation but weird. These kinds of moves are usually by unnamed boosters with tons of money and emotional connections, not German apparel companies

You also have to have people recruiting and scouting, and our department of 1 quit.

Kinda sad seeing VT in the next group behind the usurpers. If I squint real hard, I can remember when we were good and consistently mentioned among the upper echelons of CFB hierarchy.

Let's turn this bitch around!

I don't need the next one to be a nice guy. He just needs to not be a loser.

This. For the love of god, do whatever it takes to get someone who will do whatever it takes

Adidas has fuck you money, and it's entirely possible one of their execs just doesn't want him representing their brand.

He finished 4-17 against anOSU and Michigan. If I were a PSU fan and my primary expectation of my coach is to get the program into that top three in the league instead of always being a distant third, that wouldn't be good enough for me either

Why would Adidas spend so much money on firing James Franklin? There is no guarantee they get a better coach. The PSU athletic dept has to be all-in on football as it is the only way to make money/progress. But Adidas can make money all over the damn place in other ways. You're telling me Adidas execs are meeting and agreeing "yes let's pay the large sum of money (the 2nd highest buyout ever) so that there is a somewhat decent chance that one of our business partners gets a little better at football" I'm sure Penn State was going to be a massive advertisement for Adidas without firing franklin. Adidas has to have better ways they can spend 40ish million bucks

if that were true then Fuente would have been able to sign a 2020 class better than last place in the P5 without even trying. That horrible class still blows my mind.
Obviously recruiting has changed a lot since Fuente was our coach but Pry wasn't pulling in classes that were really on par with our brand / status. A lot of it is money but some of it is definitely still dependent on selling your program to the kids

Thank you - yes hard agree that there are 8 blue bloods. The only argument that is worth having about this is how much longer Nebraska would need to continue their current underperformance to get demoted out of the group.
It seems like people are more likely to argue what "blue blood" means. But if you go by the most widely-accepted definition (long term, historic, continual winning / dominance) then it is these 8 schools.

And for basketball there are 6 blue bloods (Duke, UNC, Kentucky, Kansas, UCLA, Indiana)

I don't think Pry's career ever raveled

Wofford is not included in there, as this is only looking at results against FBS teams.

If you look at SP+ on ESPN the first three games were against #40, #19, and #69 respectively (average about 43rd). Last three have been against #66, #65, and #29 (average about 53rd).

I'm not saying there is a massive difference overall, as this schedule is definitely more difficult than I had anticipated coming into the year, but it was a tough start. Even ODU at #69 is significantly ahead of us at #86.

I always reference this:

  • The 8 bluebloods are Alabama, OU, OSU, Michigan, ND, USC, Nebraska, and Texas.
  • The 8 Nuevo rich (yes, I intentionally spelled that as if I was a finebaum caller) are FSU, UF, UGA, PSU, Auburn, Tennessee, Miami, and LSU.
  • Clemson, Oregon, and TAMU are usurpers.
  • Everyone else is just crabs in a bucket.

OSU,Bama, ND are the blue bloods, michigan probably is too but so much of them winning was 100 years ago. Those for have higher winning percentages than everyone else by a good chunk. Nebraska might have been here 20-25 years ago.

OU is next, closer to the to than the next set but really not like the others.

Texas, PSU, and USC are next. when grouping by both wins and %. This feels about right, they come along get a championship and then do nothing for a decade or so. Nebraska would have been here 15-20 years ago.

Then you get Tennessee, Georgia and today's Nebraska (they fell hard)

No one else really has anything close to those 11 programs. They've all been good for a long time, but there is a lot of difference from Bama to UGA.

There are a lot of people that would not mind him for a recruiting position. he was good at that.

I can't buy that the first three games were a harder schedule than the last three. Even with Wofford in there. GT is ranked 13th in the Country.

Miami has 3 ranked wins including beating Notre Dame. Notre Dame got hosed in the rankings after losing against two ranked opponents by a combined 4 points, dropping from #8 to #24. They flattened their next four opponents. Notre Dame has another ranked opponent this weekend and a win there probably puts them back in the top 10.

Outside of beating Oregon, Indiana's only other ranked wins was Illinois and if wasnt for a couple lucky bounces late against Iowa they would have lost that game.

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