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When you're paying your staff >$15m/year + $17m/year for players + NIL on top of it, the floor is making the playoff. PSU wasn't making the playoff this year.
I am curious how much of the offensive decline can be attributed to the O line injuries. How different does this offense look with .5 more seconds per pass play?
In 2025 college football, the big games that Franklin lost are generally unattainable for Virginia Tech.
I think Franklin would win enough to have us competing for ACC Championships, which is our ceiling.
Nothing bold at all about my statement.
I was just commenting on how legal precedent is set. And legal precedent is changed in the same manner. How was Rowe v. Wade overturned? By the highest appellate court in the U.S, the very court that set the legal precedent in the first place.
I think then Franklin should be the next HC because everyone wants to watch him lose big games, hed be great for ratings
well Don, that's exactly why I don't want a second coach that can't win big games. It's not rocket science
The QB part though....that's the most important player on the field and if you as a coach consistently fail to nail that hire...and that's where we are...hire, then you are fighting an uphill battle from the get go.
That said, I am not sure it's a legitimate knock on Franklin. Trace McSorley was three time All Big Ten, 4 years, 9900 passing yards. 77/25 TD/INT, 59% passing
Drew Allar before this year was considered a lock 1st Round Pick. 3+ years although Freshmen year was used in spot duty in 10 games. 7400 passing yards, 61/13 TD/INT, 63% passing
Christian Hackenburg was kind of a mixed bag but was All Big Ten Freshman of the Year. 3 years, 8300 passing yards, 48/31 TD/INT, 56% passing
Sean Clifford was honestly the most consistent of all Franklin's QBs even though Pry's defense didnt help him out record wise. 10K passing yards, 86/31 TD/INT ratio, 61% passing
In the last ten years Hokies would kill to have that kind of production at the QB position.
Any coach that comes in does so with the expectation of being a top of the conference ACC program that gets the uneven revenue share in our favor. If any coach even considers that we would have a lesser ACC share, I don't want them, because it means they don't expect to be good
Would he get to keep his buyout if he takes another job?
Throw in Billy Hite and I think we have a winner!
Its just crazy that we went from where we were under Bud to being the hands down worst defense in the country
assuming that the new budget is real (I still have concerns we have no clarity on the philanthropy aspect, like is that just pie in the sky hopeium right now, cause it sure as shit sounds like it) there really is no reason why VT wouldn't be a good spot
Because every P2 team is also getting a $20m+ raise due to new TV contracts AND VT is going to get another paycut due to the ACC Revenue distribution.
This $50m is a great start. But it gets us from a top 50 to top 40 at best. It doesn't catapult us into the top 25 funded schools.
Neither Franklin nor Beamer could win the big game.
However, Franklin can recruit his ass off in a way that Frank couldn't. QBs are hard to find, and lots of programs have done well without game-changing QBs - hell Nick Saban won national championships with AJ McCarron & Greg McElroy, and an SEC Championships with Blake Sims.
The bar is *much* lower at VT right now, and Franklin should be able to recruit his way to where VT was in the 2000-2010s: win around 10 games, get to the ACC Championship with relative regularity, etc.
I mean in the age of the almighty Portal, every coach is going to inevitably get it wrong. Its just going to happen, and its far more volatile than ever before because you're constantly trying to keep your own guys around while trying to steal from everyone else. You can be top of the world one year and tits up the next. Its crazy. But with a guy like Franklin you expect the good years to significantly outnumber the bad.
I mean lets be honest for a second. Given where we are, we would be fortunate as hell to be in a position where we have the kind of success where that even becomes a worry.
That said, assuming that the new budget is real (I still have concerns we have no clarity on the philanthropy aspect, like is that just pie in the sky hopeium right now, cause it sure as shit sounds like it) there really is no reason why VT wouldn't be a good spot. The administration is already openly stating they want the football program to run separately from the rest of the AD going forward. The 'GM' will essentially just be the football AD that reports to Sands, and now we're hearing they're going to allow the coach to determine who that will be. And Sands is opening a new oversight committee that basically just keeps tabs on football across the sport to inform us on necessary future increases of the budget before it becomes a problem. At least for now, they are saying all the right things and should make it attractive to any coach who wants it.
A Beamer is the HC in Blacksburg, with assistant hires named Stinespring, Foster, and Gray.
Interesting thought that a 9 win season can no longer be considered the floor for even the top CFB programs.
To emphasize how bad Fields was this week...NFL counts sack yards against passing yards.
I feel like numbers 2-4 are very situational. Will heavily depend on the candidate.
I also think that the gloom/doom among the fan base is due to the assumption that there will be a half-dozen P2 schools in the mix this by December 7th.
We are who we thought we were!
So would those reservations go up or down if Shane said I am coming and I am getting Bryan Stinespring to coach the offensive line?
Pate with a great take on just how stupid a decision it was for Pedo St to fire Franklin.
James Franklin going from top 5 to out of a job in two weeks is insane pic.twitter.com/Cnr7NSVh6o— Josh Pate (@JoshPateCFB) October 13, 2025
We absolutely should be on the phone with his agent today willing to throw all the money to bring him in. The guy just wins. And sure, every year there might be the risk that shit just blows up, but the guy wins a lot of games and rarely loses games he shouldn't. This would be like if VT fired Frank after shit hit the fan in 2003.
Probably up there mostly on "ability to turn that gig into a bigger one" -- we better be ready for any mildly successful coach we get to Buzz Williams us
Nice post bringing an outside perspective on our program.
So actually then
Not publicly known at this point. Pennsylvania's public records laws are funky. The exact number of the buyout hasn't even been reported - it's somewhere between $46m and $56m