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# | VT BoV Approves increase of athletics budget by $47.1m this year, growing to a total budget of $212m in 2029 
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phosphorescence in the wakes of the boards
That HAD to be insane. I imagine if you saw a trail cruising around that night that wasn't from you or your buds, you'd of been walking on water! We used to see this at times in the Ctrl FL ICW in our boat wakes. we'd stop and jump in the water - we'd float and when you waved your arms around in the water it was like alighted "snow angel". Great visuals!
beside the Billy Mitchell Airport there in Frisco
One of our then secret spots to surf was at the end of Robin Lane, the 1st road South of the airport. Surfed several great swells there.
the mistake of bringing a Black fellow I worked with at Hogshire's Tent and Awning in Norfolk along on the camping/fishing trip
That's some BS, no one should have treated you guys that way. Too bad.
Yep, that's a bit of what I did growing up in Great Bridge. We'd surf in Sandbridge for convenience, but usually wanted to be in Hatteras if we could get the time. Frisco was my childhood campground with our family, and still one of the best places I remember from those times except one magical night on the beach beside the Billy Mitchell Airport there in Frisco. We hauled our gear and boards over to the beach, hid our camp from the occasional ranger, and surfed the full moon. Unbelievable phosphorescence in the wakes of the boards, and we were the only ones within miles. A bit of enhancement from the entertaining world of the day made things even more stunning, but what a night.
Also saw shark fin in three feet of shore curl at dusk one time down there. At least 18" of fin in impossibly shallow water and spooky as hell. Then one early morning on the Frisco pier, all alone at maybe 2:30 catching trout on every cast, my wife and I saw an incredible hammerhead shark swim along the length of the pier. We're talking head in one light, tail in the last one with a head I can't even estimate. Now that was truly spooky.
Memories for sure, including the time I was run out of the Frisco campground by the ranger telling me that he couldn't help me when his duty ended that evening. Why I asked, would I need your help? Turns out I'd made the mistake of bringing a Black fellow I worked with at Hogshire's Tent and Awning in Norfolk along on the camping/fishing trip. Ahhh, the good ole days. We got the hell out of there and hightailed back to the 757, but I'll never forget that stain on my Frisco memories.
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# | VT BoV Approves increase of athletics budget by $47.1m this year, growing to a total budget of $212m in 2029 It really does depend on what is going on behind the scenes.
This is what I've been saying for years. I wouldn't be that upset if Whit got fired, but I have a tough time calling for him to get axed when I know so little about the challenges he is or is not facing.
I'm still perplexed at that press conference that we had to announce Fuente was coming back. It just never made any sense to me outside of Whit calling it to fire him and being internally overruled.
I can't prove it, but I don't think anything will change my mind: I'm convinced Whit was planning to fire Fuente and got overruled.
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# | VT BoV Approves increase of athletics budget by $47.1m this year, growing to a total budget of $212m in 2029 Bruce Arians on Pat McAfee today and five minutes or so of Tech Talk in the second hour. Bruce stated the next step is to hire the General Manager and then the Head Coach hire afterwards. Bruce is on the search committee and with a smile on his face said he is too old for the job. They even threw up a slide showing the growth in the financial commitment to north of $200m over the next few years.
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# | VT BoV Approves increase of athletics budget by $47.1m this year, growing to a total budget of $212m in 2029 It really does depend on what is going on behind the scenes.
If it comes out that Whit has been banging this drum for years and it has taken this long for influential people at the university and possibly even the board itself to start paying attention, then maybe we let him show what he can do with the reigns off.
I'm still perplexed at that press conference that we had to announce Fuente was coming back. It just never made any sense to me outside of Whit calling it to fire him and being internally overruled.
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# | VT BoV Approves increase of athletics budget by $47.1m this year, growing to a total budget of $212m in 2029 Yes, this is the bare minimum type things, do you trust him to spend it well? Do you trust some one that has a 100+m a year operation going with out a CFO?
Gundy now available (was just fired)
Not saying we should hire him (we should not), I just wanted to post the gif
Feels like we need a coaching carousel thread.
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# | VT BoV Approves increase of athletics budget by $47.1m this year, growing to a total budget of $212m in 2029 I don't know, nor do I have any info, but the (conceptual) basic math has to be that you have to spend money to make money.
Some of the investment is in the Hokie Club itself (I believe TSL said $2M?). Get someone in charge who has a fundraising background, for goodness sake!
That will help, and winning more will also help. I'm sure there's plenty of data out there that more wins = more donations, ticket sales, merch sales, etc etc.
I share your skepticism to a certain extent as it does feel like this came out of no where but hopefully the BOV and other powers that be are smart enough to have irm committments prior to hard launching this plan.
Mike gundy out now too, so another p4 job is open
This comment was just about players that had the chance to red shirt. We only have a few non-freshman on the team that haven't taken a redshirt.
Sunshine!
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# | VT BoV Approves increase of athletics budget by $47.1m this year, growing to a total budget of $212m in 2029 the philanthropy portion is being paid by a yet to be announced $120m lump sum that Whit has been working on for a while.
Soooo we still on the fire Whit train lol?
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# | VT BoV Approves increase of athletics budget by $47.1m this year, growing to a total budget of $212m in 2029 I still have this years season tickets. That means I will be there to support the team.
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# | VT BoV Approves increase of athletics budget by $47.1m this year, growing to a total budget of $212m in 2029 I agree. This is where we are at if we want to raise the money to be a winning program again. For me, just about everything is on the table except maybe renaming Lane Stadium to some corporate sponsored name, that might be too far for me.
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# | VT BoV Approves increase of athletics budget by $47.1m this year, growing to a total budget of $212m in 2029 I definitely want to take my daughter's to VMI next year because I want to see a win.
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# | VT BoV Approves increase of athletics budget by $47.1m this year, growing to a total budget of $212m in 2029 
Agree here. Fu was pretty poor at development, a lot of players who just never really improved over the course of their eligibility. But with Pry, not only are recruits not developing, but we actually have seen regression. Parker Clements went from All-ACC freshman to a turnstile under Pry, Delane regressed each year and is now balling out at LSU, Drones has steadily gotten worse each year. And we've seen absolutely no benefit from these highly rated WRs that Fontel has brought in - they mostly can't even get on the field for the most part.
They eval'd good out of the portal that's it. They could not develop for shit, especially out of high school.
Worse than Fuente at development who saw Tre Turner look exactly the same his senior year as he did coming in as a true freshman
Fu I think was a very good (not great or elite), but very good pure coach. Far better than Pry. I think the starting talent he inherited from Beamer, plus more urgency and aggression with coaching and scheme, is what led to two really solid years in 2016 and 2017. But as time wore on, you saw the downside of Fu - his inability to recruit at a high level and to manage a roster/develop talent. That is what ultimately did him in IMO. Pry just turned out to be all bark and no bite - he couldn't recruit well enough (raised the floor or depth of the program somewhat, but top end talent was still pretty bad overall) and wasn't a very good coach/game manager either.
Chesney is a gamble because of sample size (like you said don't have enough data points to know if he's just succeeding in a good situation yet) and translation to a P4 program. There's always that degree of risk hiring a G5 coach and whether it will translate to the top levels, but you can at least make an educated guess with a strong sample size of winning/recruiting/development over time. Just not enough there for me on Chesney, it feels like the risk outweighs what upside there may be. It feels like a gamble and that's just simply something we can't do with this hire.
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# | The Argument for Bob Chesney to be the next VT Football Coach My biggest reservation about Chesney is less about him, and more a general rule of caution for me -- when a coach takes over a well-oiled machine. We haven't seen enough to know if he is going to sustain and elevate a program, or win early and decline. We saw the latter happen with Fuente, so we know that story all too well.
I like a winner, I like someone who is familiar with the region, etc. I simply do not know how much of JMU's continued success is the foundation laid before him, and how much is his own coaching and development prowess.
It's the main reason why I keep coming back to Mullen. He's *done it* at a program with some similar issues to VT in Miss State (though he did have the SEC patch on the chest). He's won at Florida, and while he underperformed there as a recruiter, that is an uber-high standard that he would not be expected to meet here. Plus, the portal, NIL and rev share have fundamentally altered the player acquisition, where Mullen's shortcomings as an individual recruiter probably won't always matter as much. To be clear, he isn't even a "bad" recruiter, by any means, he simply isn't known as an elite one.
Appreciate the write-up! VT could definitely do worse than Chesney but if that's the bar...
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# | VT BoV Approves increase of athletics budget by $47.1m this year, growing to a total budget of $212m in 2029 Maybe start out watching every remaining game this season and next season on TV and possibly attending one game next season. Thats where I'm at.
Logically it has never made sense on why you would call a press conference to announce you aren't firing someone.
Some of those comments he made during that press conference (at one point I think I recall him saying something like the general public doesn't give enough for their opinions to matter) always kind of felt like he was parroting some bullshit arguments he was hearing from up the chain on why they overruled him.