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Like I said - would gladly take Mullen, and would prefer him over shane. I just don't know how he feels about VT in 2025.
But that Dan Mullen copy actually recruits
I keep wishing they hung one of those 4 screen box shaped scoreboards over the middle of the court. I would think Cassell's arch ceiling design would be strong enough to support it
The SOS podcast actually mentioned this in passing. Shane right now to date is kind of like an early Dan Mullen - has had some decent success at a doormat SEC program, certainly elevated things and has some expectations now. So you do have a fair point, there is maybe more substance to it right now other than the Beamer name.
But you have basically early Dan Mullen copy vs actual Dan Mullen right now, who I think has a ton of tread left on the tires. Couple that with the fact that I truly now don't think Shane wants the pressure of having to live up to Frank's legacy at VT and is happy at South Carolina. Really drives the choice home for me.
Correct, you could read it as winning the least money for gambling on Gruden because he is hilariously the favorite based on those odds.
You're going to see NIL packages with special incentives around bowl games. Opt-outs will never go away, but I think you'll see a 10% decrease with new portal rules, and a bigger decrease as NIL/bowl packages become a thing.
I was 100% with you until this statement...
Most coaches will be done with post season games before players enter the portal - so we'll see slightly less opt-outs in bowl season
I would love to be wrong, but I don't see this development significantly altering the number of opt-outs because players who know they want to transfer will likely sit out to avoid the possibility of injury. It would definitely avoid the Player enters portal before bowl game, does the coach play them or not? discussion (cue: "all portals portal the same" comment), but I'd be genuinely surprised if the numbers truly declined.
"If Shane's last name weren't Beamer, would you feel the same about the hire?"
In 2015 - absolutely not.
In 2025 - abosultely.
IMO Shane has proven himself at SCar.
I still think there is a zero chance he comes here, and I think he has no interest in coaching at a school where his dad has a statue. But if he wanted to come here, I'd be happy about it.
Enough with experiments. [Mullen] is the obvious choice.
The question is not if Mullen is the obvious choice for us. The question is if we are an obvious choice for him.
Here's why I said the numbers are meaningless.
In the Gruden case, they know there are a lot of memes surrounding him at every school and they want to capitalize on that engagement. People will bet the meme and not worry about losing the couple of bucks they bet. Unlike some of their other numbers, it isn't predictive. It is just trying to entice people to make the bet.
Hey now-we'll be up in section 232.(and we were some of the last dozens there in the stands as the clock hit zeroes last week).
All home teams is my strategy this week!
ok so in this case it means what exactly? that they have gruden as the favorite? are they serious?
sorry, im not a gambling guy.
Shawn Watson always uses an apostrophe when writing a plural noun. ;^)
Per Google Ai: In American betting odds, a plus (+) sign indicates the underdog and shows how much profit you would win on a $100 wager. This betting format is also used for other types of wagers, like point spreads and totals.
Those are Moneyline odds
How U.S./Moneyline Odds Work
Favorites: Denoted with a minus (-) sign. The number shows how much you need to bet to win $100.
Underdogs: Denoted with a plus (+) sign. The number shows how much you'll win if you bet $100.
For example, if a team has odds of -150, you'd need to bet $150 to win $100. If the odds are +200, a $100 bet would win you $200. In both cases, your original bet is returned along with your winnings. The larger the gap between the favorite and underdog odds, the higher the favorite's chances of winning.
Shawn Watson anagrams to Shat Wows Ann.
what does +NUMBER mean?
I really wanted him to be our football "Mike Young" coach and it would have been great if it worked. But there were alarm bells and red flags almost from the start. I was immediately concerned when both coordinators were first timers but that was tempered with Rudolph being on-staff. O-line has been a tough spot for VT since Jake Grove graduated and FINALLY we were getting that addressed with a top 10 coach for the position. But none of the parts worked together. The first year departures of everyone on the offensive staff with experience was the point of no return.
Sons of Saturday podcast from last night bringing some great discussion on future of the program/coaching candidates. A lot of truth here.
We are very likely going to have the resources to hire with the cream of the crop around the country when the dust settles. If you're advocating to pay Michael Vick or Shane Beamer with those level resources just because of the feel good VT connection, you're crazy. Great quote, "if Shane's last name weren't Beamer, would you feel the same about the hire?" Absolutely not.
I'm personally 100% onboard with the Mullen train. Not to say Mike Vick or Shane couldn't one day down the road be a candidate, but we need a proven winner with P4 experience right now. Mullen checks all of the boxes and has the coaching network to make incredibly good hires. Hand him a front office style NIL/recruiting operation and the resources we are rumored to be getting, and the next 7-10 years at VT could be truly transformative.
Also, for the sake of argument, let's just take every coach who has ever coached for VT in the last 70 or so years and stack their all-time record as of today against Dan Mullen. Obviously Frank is at the top with an all-time win percentage of 65.9%. Dan Mullen would come in right at number 2. A 63.5% all-time win percentage, with all of that in the SEC. He's also 7-3...I'll say that again, 7-3...all-time in bowl games. Something Frank never quite mastered with a below .500 record in bowls.
Enough with experiments. This is the obvious choice.
Anything to boost attendance numbers
Overall, this is good:
The initial proposal would require college football players to wait until Jan. 2 -- the day after the completion of the College Football Playoff quarterfinals -- to enter their names in the NCAA transfer portal database and be contacted by prospective schools. Graduate transfers were previously allowed to enter the portal early but now must also wait until the January window.
Players would have 10 days to enter the portal but are under no deadline to make a commitment to their next school once they enter.
This is huge:
- New coaches can get settled before hitting the portal
- It's a month after the early signing period (12/3-12/5) but the 10 day period starts a month before national signing day (2/4)
- Most coaches will be done with post season games before players enter the portal - so we'll see slightly less opt-outs in bowl season
Really would have preferred they abolish the winter signing period instead of spring. I think that would have naturally discouraged portal use because coaches (and players) want to have kids in spring practice. But this is great news.
Lmao - love me some Roy 'Damn' Mercer prank calls.
"How big a boy are ya?"
"I'm about 6'4" 250 pounds"
"Oh that's just ripe ass whippin' size."
I'll put a pop knot on you big enough to hitch a bass boat to.
Just how big of a boy are you anyhow?

One day, they'll either blow it all up or do a major reno, and I'll miss what it used to be.
I *love* that Cassel + Lane are right on campus, but also recognize that it has created a significant space limitation for the expansion of athletics buildings.