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Agree with nickm2. Totally overblown from my experience. I've only really experienced it once at Solace Outpost in Falls Church. A big group of douchy looking friends let their kids run wild, but they kept it pretty much exclusive to the game room area. A bit of a bummer for my kids that wanted to play some arcade games, but we were able to sit away from the game room and it didn't impact our dinner.
perfection.
I get that- and agree- my point is that this year if we make a bowl, the team playing that night won't be the same team that got there- it won't be the same players to motivate, it won't be the same talent. Half the starters won't suit up for the game- that's a conservative estimate. I just don't see how you can judge anything from it. If we win, Pry motivated the scout team to beat another scout team. OK. If we lose, the other teams scout guys are better than ours- which tells you nothing.
If he finishes 7-5 he will probably keep his job. I am with most people that anything less, and he is probably gone.
Yes, you have to be family friendly.
You still get families that think it's a playground for their kids though.
I pushed for a solution I noted widely used in taprooms in Portland, OR over a decade ago - Separate the kids into specialty areas designed for the kids. Parents would take turns watching them.
People that didn't want to be exposed to kids could self-segregate while families were catered to.
Glory Days used to be our go-to for cheap decent bar food when we didn't feel like cooking. But they raised the prices and the food has gone downhill (at least at the location next to my house). The last 2 or 3 times we went, we were very underwhelmed. It's now close to the same cost as much better options.
It was a busy weekend, okay.

I've read like a dozen articles about how wild kids are ruining breweries.
and then there's the opposite side of this
last night we went to a local tavern that is very kid friendly (we go there a fair amount with our 3.5 year old and have friends who live right up the road and they are there with their two kids (3, 1) all. the. time.) They had some live music playing and we were just enjoying the music and my son was dancing around and stomping on the lights projected to the floor from the disco ball. There was a table of older women near where he was dancing and one of them kept giving me the stink eye and shaking hear head. I made eye contact with her at one point and she said that she didn't appreciate my son dancing near her table, which made him cry. We walked outside to take some space and then those ladies left. One of them came up to me and apologized for her friend saying she was a B*tch (her words, not mine) and that was that. The bartender told our friends (who are regulars there) that the table of older women were crappy people/patrons. Our friends had never seen them before and they know all the regulars. It goes both ways. Young people ruin things just as much as old people do.
As long as people are getting together, there are going to be people who are easily irked and easily upset. People are going to get their feelings hurt and people are gonna be ass-holes. It just is what it is.
Ok boomer.
Back then there were franchises in Danville and Lynchburg, and corporate stores in Richmond, Manassas, Woodbridge, Fairfax and Alexandria. I subbed as manager in all the NoVa stores at one time or another.
Yeah- obviously one of the main correlations was the Catholic church policy of not allowing red meat for Catholics on Fridays of Lent(and out of habit perhaps continuing at other times of year0; with the relative decline in religious identification (and even fewer with strict adherents and regular attendance), there are fewer folks who abstain from meat on Fridays...
Agreed.
Oops sorry. That was at least partially me. I was doing the water/sewer design for the Silver Companies when they did that complex.
I used to be the prep-chef at a restaurant that offered ALCE fried flounder and scallops on Friday and Saturday night. I prepped so much fish and scallops those days. You put the fish in the egg wash, then flour, back to egg wash, then bread crumbs. The wet hand would have a half inch of caked flour on it after 30-40 lbs of processing.
Man I miss ground round. They weren't close but if we saw one on a trip we tried to eat there or the Brown Derby.
I hadn't thought of the air fryer for burgers. Does it actually do a good job?
I put a lot more weight on the bowl games than most because VT has been so bad in bowl games over the years. And when you lose the last game, it just leaves a foul taste in the mouth. And so much of winning them - even many years ago - was based on how focused you had the team and did they want to play. To me bad records in bowl games meant poor planning and unmotivated players.
I've read like a dozen articles about how wild kids are ruining breweries.
I think this slant has been way overblown. I do not have kids and spend probably 1-2 Saturdays a month at local breweries or wineries in the area and have never once been annoyed by kids. But people seem obsessed with talking about kids at breweries.
Maybe at a more urban brewery (like maybe a Dacha in DC), where there isn't as much space and it's more of a young adult crowd. But in Northern VA/Loudoun County, it's a total non issue for me.
lmao- I am spoiled here in phoenix- we have plenty of in and out and culvers- which is better than 5 guys too.
With our schedule in 25 6-6 is like any other 6-6- crap/mid. Period. I agree that if we played an SEC schedule that included 8 top 30 teams, yeah winning 4 of those would be pretty good. But in the ACC- all 6-6 means is that you lost to multiple shit teams. No other way to slice it.
lol - the metal chairs was definitely around that time for them.
But agreed - they do non-traditional sauces (outside of standard Buffalo sauce) better than just about any other wing place i've been to. The Fiery Garlic Parmesan is my favorite.
- 6-6 in Pry's first/second year was fine/good.
- 6-6 in Pry's third year is disappointing.
- 6-6 in Pry's fourth year - assuming recruiting does not drastically improve (it won't) - means it's time for him to go.
- 6-6 in the SEC is (usually) more impressive than 6-6 in the ACC (you're welcome to disagree with me, but in this case, the exceptions prove the rule)
I buy that not all 6-6 seasons are the same, but as far as VT's 2025 season goes, it really doesn't matter.
yeah, I'm not far from you on this. I don't think Vandy is good. I know we're not good. I think they win that one. That's my expectation, anyhow. But, like I said, I think Pry needs to win at least six to keep his job and I don't think he's going to win at least six. So, it's easy to see how his fate could be sealed after just two games. Starting out with two losses is a great way to finish sub-.500. Beamer could start 0-2 and turn a team into a 10-2 squad. But there aren't many Beamers out there and Pry certainly isn't one of them. If he starts 0-2, he'll finish 5-7 or worse.
Yeah Glory Days is a bit outside the "convenient" radius for us now. Used to have one about a mile away. Now closest is in Reston but kind of a pain to get to. I would have put Silver Diner on the list but they recently overhauled their menu with like a Mediterranean theme which really limited the menu for me.
Wing Factory almost lost me when they went to those metal chairs. Apparently enough people complained though so those are gone. Love their Sweet Firecracker sauce.

ah - you caught a typo - I meant 5-7 or worse. I fixed it