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how many people watch those games
anOSU has over 60,000 students on campus. Michigan isn't far behind that. Woody and past coaches on both sides made it a war, so between those that attended these schools and the residents of each state, there's a lot of eyeballs invested in this one.
And for the egg bowl, you are born either roll tide or war eagle. Periodt. It's personal down there. They could geofence that game and not show it outside the state and still draw big ratings.
It's life. In both of these games. And these 2 games happen to be in the big dragon conferences that drive the decisions.
I'm guessing they have data to support what they're doing.
My guess is, they feel like people who didn't go to college still have favorite college teams, and that those teams will just start being whoever is on TV. And people who don't go to a football school will still have favorite college teams.
I know a guy who went to JMU before they became an FBS school, and I still see him at Lane, in a one-orange sleeved Marcus Vick jersey at least twice a year.
VT was his team before JMU was his school, and that hasn't changed.
ESPN has been building their army of SEC fans who didn't go to their respective schools (or live in that state) for years. By the time they lose all the diehard VT fans, they'll replace them with diehard SEC fans who have been trained up to invest in the SEC for decades now.
Doesn't matter. ESPN runs sports- all sports. They shove a terrible product and league in millions in debt- the WNBA in your face, like it matters. They essentially killed the NHL when they didn't get that contract. Their hockey coverage consisted of one spot a week with Barry Melrose as attendance on average was much better than the NBA. They cover hypothetical NBA trades that will never happen more than any other sport than the NFL. They have had personal reporters for LeBron. They ignore major league baseball for meaningless NBA games where teams openly tank. Point is... if they continue to push the SEC only and shove Ole Miss auburn down your throat 24/7 the casual fan will think that game is as big as the super bowl. Perception is reality. ESPN is in control. They said Sheduer Sanders was great and the number one pick- until they didn't.
I think you, and the TV/League execs, underestimate how many people watch those games because its the league their own team plays in .... and more and more it doesn't feel like the other teams play in that league. You can tell the difference even in the workplace where coworkers who used to be all in on CFB don't even talk about it at lunch anymore because they only watch their team now. I have seen a measurable disengagement across the fanbase. Those big name matchups are juicing and orange that was grown in an orchard that they cut down to use the wood for more juicers.
Agree. I think they're out punting their coverage, but only time will tell. The general sentiment seems to be that the casual fan is becoming less and less interested (or the diehard fan for that matter, depending on your team), however the screws keep getting turned tighter. We shall see.
Nah, OSU Michigan will get huge ratings, Bama LSU, etc. People are stupid.
I sure as hell ain't watching.
I truly think that cutting out the fans of 100 teams will really hurt the ratings of a super league long term
Absolutely- There is never enough money. Must get more- if that means Boise and VT are playing club football, so fucking be it. Money.
Wish I could give more legs because this is 110% spot on
This is primarily a consequence of playoff expansion rather than NIL, in my opinion.
However, I think a third defensible stance would be, that regardless of NIL or playoff expansion, there still may have ended up being a, or a push for a, super league if the top teams could get the most broadcast money from that, eventually.
"It's going to be somewhere between 16 and 30ish teams after the bluebloods and nuevo riche teams break away from FBS in 2030 when the SEC and B10 GoR both expire."- Yep and your school won't be part of it. It's funny when you kill the sport based on fake numbers and emotional arguments that these unintended consequences rear their heads. VT will be playing glorified club football because "ballers didn't get paid for their services". Lifes a bitch.
He's not dreaming, in fact he is awake as hell. He understands that the top 15 things that matter in college football are dead presidents printed on green tint. He fully understands that. Money talks. Money buys players, money pays agents and hs coaches bribes, money pays professors to pass athletes that can't read, money is ALL that matters. Period. This is what the fans wanted- the NFL part 2. It's what equating college tuition to no monetary value got you. The B1G has the second most money. That's all the CFP is about- money. So he's dead on that they will get 4 automatic spots. If not, like any rule trying to govern the sport- they will sue of course- and win- easily. Can't cap or limit the B1Gs potential TV money. That's illegal. That's not fair trade. Money.
Ryan Day wants the Big 10 to have 4 automatic qualifies for the CFP. Basically a guaranteed reservation for 4 out of the 16 teams. Given the current format and shenanigans, I think he can (respectfully) get bent.
I hate this idea just as much as every non-P2 college football fan, but I think it's more likely than not to be the new reality (I think there's about a 60% chance that SEC and B10 are guaranteed half of the bids in the next playoff iteration)
the entire FBS get their act together to act as a premier league
You're dreaming if you think the inevitable CFB premier league is going to be 130-some FBS teams. It's going to be somewhere between 16 and 30ish teams after the bluebloods and nuevo riche teams break away from FBS in 2030 when the SEC and B10 GoR both expire.
I just hope that there is a promotion/relegation structure, but I'm really concerned/pretty confident that this won't be the case.
No - B1G and $EC know that if 4 bids is standard, the odds of getting 5 or 6 is even better.
That's just outstanding. I wonder how much has to do with the song playing on the Metallica channel after playing at Lane and being on the preview for College football game video.
The Rockies need to be broken up after this three game series sweep. MLB simply cannot afford to have one team winning this much.
B1G and $EC scared they won't get 4 bids each without them being gifted to them?
No disagreement. This is just the most overt statement yet, and college footballs falls down another peg on my list of enjoyable things.
+1 for Buster Scruggs reference
Little old Texas tech in national title series now... they have been injecting their own oil money recently
B1G along with $EC have been angling for this for some time...
thanks!
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